Carol Bradley Bursack, CDSGF
Author, speaker, columnist and eldercare consultant
Over the span of two decades, author, columnist, consultant and speaker Carol Bradley Bursack cared for a neighbor and six elderly family members. Her experiences inspired her to pen "Minding Our Elders: Caregivers Share Their Personal Stories," a portable support group book for caregivers.
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My mother-in-law is living in our home, bills have doubled. What do you do when you can't afford this?
L has had a terrific experience in Florida with the HMO. This is another example that where you live makes a big difference in services... L has had a terrific experience in Florida with the HMO. This is another example that where you live makes a big difference in services that are available. Type your state's name and the word aging into your browser. In California, the first thing you'll see is http://www.aging.ca.gov/. There are links for finding help there. You aren't likely to have all of your problems taken care of, but you should get direction on where to look for local help.
Good luck with your search,
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Good luck with your search,
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How can I protect my parents from my alcoholic brother?
Your brother needs to know that you will call the police if he threatens anyone again. I agree that your mom may be afraid, a but she... Your brother needs to know that you will call the police if he threatens anyone again. I agree that your mom may be afraid, a but she doesn't know what to do, either.
A restraining order won't work unless you can find a way to make him move first. He's sick - try to remember that. But being a sick alcoholic doesn't give him the right to hurt others. The only way he'll face his problem seems to be through something harsh, so you may have to call 9-1-1 the next time there's a problem. It will be hard to do and to go through your parents' emotions with them, but this can't go on. For your parents' safety, your brother must get help.
You could call Social Services Adult Protective Services and see if they have other ideas about how you can help your parents.
Take care of yourself, too,
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A restraining order won't work unless you can find a way to make him move first. He's sick - try to remember that. But being a sick alcoholic doesn't give him the right to hurt others. The only way he'll face his problem seems to be through something harsh, so you may have to call 9-1-1 the next time there's a problem. It will be hard to do and to go through your parents' emotions with them, but this can't go on. For your parents' safety, your brother must get help.
You could call Social Services Adult Protective Services and see if they have other ideas about how you can help your parents.
Take care of yourself, too,
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Taking care of my mother who has BPPV has taken a toll on me. How can I help myself?
Hi Savita, You're very smart and already pinpointed your own problem. It’s doing something about it that baffles you. You and your... Hi Savita,
You're very smart and already pinpointed your own problem. It’s doing something about it that baffles you.
You and your mother are in a self-perpetuating cycle of worry and anxiety and that needs to be broken. I would definitely check with the neurologist about the exercises and why your mom got worse. However, the anxiety she has worrying about another attack, while natural, is likely making her more prone to an attack. Her anxiety makes your anxiety worse and your anxiety makes hers worse.
I'd suggest that you find time to see a counselor who can help you sort this out. You won't get better sitting around with her, obsessing, and waiting for another attack. That isn't good for either of you.
If there is a support group for people with this issue, or just people with anxiety issues (since you are both having problems with anxiety), you may benefit from that group, as well. However, I do feel that this is one instance where the only way to break the cycle is professional, one on one help, at least for a few sessions. Your health - mental and physical - will continue to worsen if you don't find a better way to cope. You want to help your mom, but you need to help yourself to do so.
Take care and good luck,
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You're very smart and already pinpointed your own problem. It’s doing something about it that baffles you.
You and your mother are in a self-perpetuating cycle of worry and anxiety and that needs to be broken. I would definitely check with the neurologist about the exercises and why your mom got worse. However, the anxiety she has worrying about another attack, while natural, is likely making her more prone to an attack. Her anxiety makes your anxiety worse and your anxiety makes hers worse.
I'd suggest that you find time to see a counselor who can help you sort this out. You won't get better sitting around with her, obsessing, and waiting for another attack. That isn't good for either of you.
If there is a support group for people with this issue, or just people with anxiety issues (since you are both having problems with anxiety), you may benefit from that group, as well. However, I do feel that this is one instance where the only way to break the cycle is professional, one on one help, at least for a few sessions. Your health - mental and physical - will continue to worsen if you don't find a better way to cope. You want to help your mom, but you need to help yourself to do so.
Take care and good luck,
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How do you cope with an elderly mother's lifetime negative personality?
First of all, Debralee, you are savvy enough to know going into this that you can't make your mom happy. Therefore, hopefully, you... First of all, Debralee, you are savvy enough to know going into this that you can't make your mom happy. Therefore, hopefully, you won't blame yourself when she complains. I do think you'd be smart to start making a plan for how her care will go as she ages. She won't be easy to cope with and you will only have so much to give.
Planning doesn't mean you have to do anything now, but I'd suggest that you check around your community for appropriate support groups. Also, make sure that appropriate legal papers are in place. If she's ever going to cooperate with you on that it's now, since she only wants you to help at this time. Likely, the time will come when you need to hire help for her or find an assisted living situation, so you'll want to know the lay of the land, so to speak. Investigate in-home services, assisted living and even nursing homes just so you know what is available. Then try to keep up as your mom's needs change.
I hope you'll keep coming back to this community because there are many members who will know exactly what you are talking about. You'll find support, sympathy and information.
Take care of yourself, too!
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Planning doesn't mean you have to do anything now, but I'd suggest that you check around your community for appropriate support groups. Also, make sure that appropriate legal papers are in place. If she's ever going to cooperate with you on that it's now, since she only wants you to help at this time. Likely, the time will come when you need to hire help for her or find an assisted living situation, so you'll want to know the lay of the land, so to speak. Investigate in-home services, assisted living and even nursing homes just so you know what is available. Then try to keep up as your mom's needs change.
I hope you'll keep coming back to this community because there are many members who will know exactly what you are talking about. You'll find support, sympathy and information.
Take care of yourself, too!
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What questions should I prepare for my mother's nursing home meeting?
I agree that the sooner she leaves this place the better. Is it possible for her to go back to her independent/AL facility with her own... I agree that the sooner she leaves this place the better. Is it possible for her to go back to her independent/AL facility with her own aide? You could hire an in-home care agency to take care of her.
This facility doesn't sound acceptable. Yes, do talk with the social worker and tell her what the doctor said. However, he or she will likely be controlled by the need to keep the job.
Personally, I'd check with the home's ombudsman by going online to www.ltcombudsman.org. Type the home's Zip code in the search box. This person is your mother's representative. Tell your contact about the concerns you have for your mother and her care. He or she should be able to guide you.
Good luck,
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This facility doesn't sound acceptable. Yes, do talk with the social worker and tell her what the doctor said. However, he or she will likely be controlled by the need to keep the job.
Personally, I'd check with the home's ombudsman by going online to www.ltcombudsman.org. Type the home's Zip code in the search box. This person is your mother's representative. Tell your contact about the concerns you have for your mother and her care. He or she should be able to guide you.
Good luck,
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Can my mother-in-law have her dog with her in an assisted living environment?
Many assisted living facilities welcome pets. Some even have a resident pet or two. Animals tend to be good for older people. As for your... Many assisted living facilities welcome pets. Some even have a resident pet or two. Animals tend to be good for older people.
As for your particular situation, you'll have to check with the ALF you are considering. They may ask you if your mother-in-law is capable of take care of the pet's needs. Be prepared to answer how you would handle the pet situation if your she became too ill to care for her pet.
Go ahead and look at options for your your mother-in-law. Just use the phone book or search online for facilities in the area you are considering and then call. You'll find out quickly which ones will allow pets.
Best of luck,
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As for your particular situation, you'll have to check with the ALF you are considering. They may ask you if your mother-in-law is capable of take care of the pet's needs. Be prepared to answer how you would handle the pet situation if your she became too ill to care for her pet.
Go ahead and look at options for your your mother-in-law. Just use the phone book or search online for facilities in the area you are considering and then call. You'll find out quickly which ones will allow pets.
Best of luck,
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My sister has been doing so good. She then started saying strange things. Could she have had a stroke or is th...
She could have had a small stroke. I think she should be checked. Her behavior could stem from dementia, but this was new behavior which is... She could have had a small stroke. I think she should be checked. Her behavior could stem from dementia, but this was new behavior which is always a red flag. I'd have her seen by a doctor very soon.
Good luck,
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Trapped in the basement to avoid my abusive future father-in-law. What can I do?
Bella, you've gotten amazing advice from people who care and know a lot. Please listen. Get out, get help and keep communicating with... Bella, you've gotten amazing advice from people who care and know a lot. Please listen. Get out, get help and keep communicating with your fiancé. He sounds wonderful. I expect that once he knows and understands more about his dad, he'll seek some professional advice on how to handle him. Meanwhile, you need to stay safe and so does your guy.
Do not worry about what your fiancé’s dad says at church. You know what's right and so do most of these people if he's gone to the same church a long time. Just keep working to stay safe and if you love your fiancé enough to stick around, work with him to help him solve this problem with his dad.
Best wishes from us all,
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Do not worry about what your fiancé’s dad says at church. You know what's right and so do most of these people if he's gone to the same church a long time. Just keep working to stay safe and if you love your fiancé enough to stick around, work with him to help him solve this problem with his dad.
Best wishes from us all,
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Can anyone share their experience with a parent diagnosed with degenerative aphasia?
My uncle had aphasia brought on by several major strokes. I still get teary when I think of how frustrated and angry he'd get trying to... My uncle had aphasia brought on by several major strokes. I still get teary when I think of how frustrated and angry he'd get trying to get the words he wanted out his mouth.
One story I've repeated is when he kept telling me - and then yelling at me - to get his magazines fixed. He had a pile of them and I kept straightening the already neat pile, but he kept yelling - no my magazines! I touched everything nearby and finally opened a drawer and brought up his razor. He said, "Yes, my magazines!" By then I was afraid he'd have another stroke out of frustration. It about broke my heart. He's always been a reader and puzzle worker - a real word person.
We often can't fix anything for others in the sense that we can't change their situation. However, we can say we do understand, at least to some degree. I feel so terrible for your mom and for you having to cope with this heartbreaking situation.
Take care,
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One story I've repeated is when he kept telling me - and then yelling at me - to get his magazines fixed. He had a pile of them and I kept straightening the already neat pile, but he kept yelling - no my magazines! I touched everything nearby and finally opened a drawer and brought up his razor. He said, "Yes, my magazines!" By then I was afraid he'd have another stroke out of frustration. It about broke my heart. He's always been a reader and puzzle worker - a real word person.
We often can't fix anything for others in the sense that we can't change their situation. However, we can say we do understand, at least to some degree. I feel so terrible for your mom and for you having to cope with this heartbreaking situation.
Take care,
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What do you do when elderly parent refuses needed care or legal considerations?
When I read your experiences, support and love for other caregivers I just think what an honor it is for me to be part of this group. You... When I read your experiences, support and love for other caregivers I just think what an honor it is for me to be part of this group. You are so experienced and wise.
I needed to wait until my mom had a fall more frightening to her than many others before I could get her into the care she needed. When it happened, since I was with her daily, I was ready to pounce and "she" made the decision to join my dad at the nursing home where he lived just blocks from me. I hated waiting but knew Mom would resist even though she was unsafe at home. She had a personal alarm, I did her shopping, light cleaning, took her to appointments, helped make special lunches for her friends and anything else I could. However, I had young children at home and other elders needing me. I couldn't be with her 24/7.
She wasn't in the fix than many of the stories on this page talk about, however the idea is similar. Sometimes, all we can do is wait until they scare themselves into cooperating at least for awhile - then make the move. It's agony waiting. The next step (setting up care and the adjustment) isn't exactly fun, either. But often no one - doctors, attorney's, social workers, family members, friends - can get cooperation. The advice you have for one another here is life sustaining for many.
Keep helping each other, caregivers. You are the best,
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I needed to wait until my mom had a fall more frightening to her than many others before I could get her into the care she needed. When it happened, since I was with her daily, I was ready to pounce and "she" made the decision to join my dad at the nursing home where he lived just blocks from me. I hated waiting but knew Mom would resist even though she was unsafe at home. She had a personal alarm, I did her shopping, light cleaning, took her to appointments, helped make special lunches for her friends and anything else I could. However, I had young children at home and other elders needing me. I couldn't be with her 24/7.
She wasn't in the fix than many of the stories on this page talk about, however the idea is similar. Sometimes, all we can do is wait until they scare themselves into cooperating at least for awhile - then make the move. It's agony waiting. The next step (setting up care and the adjustment) isn't exactly fun, either. But often no one - doctors, attorney's, social workers, family members, friends - can get cooperation. The advice you have for one another here is life sustaining for many.
Keep helping each other, caregivers. You are the best,
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Is Alzheimer's considered a terminal illness?
I second Jeanne's opinion. Alzheimer's is a progressive disease that will result in death unless something else causes death first.... I second Jeanne's opinion. Alzheimer's is a progressive disease that will result in death unless something else causes death first.
Your mother-in-law is 88 - likely quite frail in many ways. I don't expect that the iron infusions are considered extraordinary. The are supposed to keep her feeling better by controlling anemia. However, you may want to get a second opinion from a different doctor about how helpful the infusions are. There is nothing to be gained by putting her through more than absolutely necessary.
I, too, would skip as many tests as possible unless she is able to decide for herself. The aim is generally for the person to have as much quality in her life as possible without causing undue pain or harm.
Take care,
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Your mother-in-law is 88 - likely quite frail in many ways. I don't expect that the iron infusions are considered extraordinary. The are supposed to keep her feeling better by controlling anemia. However, you may want to get a second opinion from a different doctor about how helpful the infusions are. There is nothing to be gained by putting her through more than absolutely necessary.
I, too, would skip as many tests as possible unless she is able to decide for herself. The aim is generally for the person to have as much quality in her life as possible without causing undue pain or harm.
Take care,
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Can a nursing home force anti-depressants on a patient?
Nursing homes like to work with their contracted doctor because it's easier, but I don't think they can keep you from getting a... Nursing homes like to work with their contracted doctor because it's easier, but I don't think they can keep you from getting a second opinion. Medicare will pay for second opinions, although you may have to clear it with Medicaid if she's covered by this program.
I'd go online to www.ltcombudsman.org. Type the Zip code of your mother's nursing home in the box and you should find contact information for the patient's representative covering that home. Ask about other complaints and then ask about getting a second opinion. These people are very knowledgeable and will find answers for you.
Good luck,
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I'd go online to www.ltcombudsman.org. Type the Zip code of your mother's nursing home in the box and you should find contact information for the patient's representative covering that home. Ask about other complaints and then ask about getting a second opinion. These people are very knowledgeable and will find answers for you.
Good luck,
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What is the next step now that mom has passed?
Deej, I'm sorry about your mom's death but happy that you realize that she's no longer suffering. That's a very healthy... Deej, I'm sorry about your mom's death but happy that you realize that she's no longer suffering. That's a very healthy attitude.
The legal part is confusing for nearly all of us. It does sound like you really need at least one session with your lawyer friend. I think you can likely send death certificates to the cc companies, but I'm not an attorney and don't know the law. States may differ on what you can do, as well, so legal advice is a must.
I believe that you really do need to contact the people who control the retirement fund. Most would only pay until the spouse's death and you don't want money coming in that they would take back. If it goes to other survivors that would be wonderful, but you need to find out what to do, so I’d make that a priority.
Your state's Attorney General's office may be able to find you a pro-bono (free) attorney if your friend can't help you. You'd have to explain why you don't have the funds to help.
Meanwhile, keep checking back here. Agingcare has a fantastic community with people who've been where you are. They can offer a lot of emotional support. There are also experts on the site with legal backgrounds, so watch for answers from them.
I can offer you sympathy and support, but you do need an attorney (in my opinion).
Take care of yourself and take one step at least by notifying the retirement people.
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The legal part is confusing for nearly all of us. It does sound like you really need at least one session with your lawyer friend. I think you can likely send death certificates to the cc companies, but I'm not an attorney and don't know the law. States may differ on what you can do, as well, so legal advice is a must.
I believe that you really do need to contact the people who control the retirement fund. Most would only pay until the spouse's death and you don't want money coming in that they would take back. If it goes to other survivors that would be wonderful, but you need to find out what to do, so I’d make that a priority.
Your state's Attorney General's office may be able to find you a pro-bono (free) attorney if your friend can't help you. You'd have to explain why you don't have the funds to help.
Meanwhile, keep checking back here. Agingcare has a fantastic community with people who've been where you are. They can offer a lot of emotional support. There are also experts on the site with legal backgrounds, so watch for answers from them.
I can offer you sympathy and support, but you do need an attorney (in my opinion).
Take care of yourself and take one step at least by notifying the retirement people.
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How to get Dad and Mom in a nursing home when Dad does not want to go?
This is, unfortunately, something many adult children face. Likely, one reason your dad doesn't want to go is that he still feels he... This is, unfortunately, something many adult children face. Likely, one reason your dad doesn't want to go is that he still feels he should be able to take care of your mom. He can't be rational about the fact that he can't provide the care she needs.
A third party (non-family member) can sometimes help with these issues because that removes the family dynamic and the feeling that the "kids" are trying to boss them around. Do they have a rabbi or pastor who could talk with your dad?
Or a good friend of their generation who can address his worries? Do they know anyone in assisted living or a good nursing home who could tell them it's not so bad?
Sometimes all people can do is wait for an emergency and then move them - with the aid of Social Services, if necessary. I hope it doesn't get that bad for you.
Please keep checking for answers here, because many in the Agingcare community have had similar issues and they will be able to commiserate with you, and hopefully provide some insightful answers.
Good luck!
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A third party (non-family member) can sometimes help with these issues because that removes the family dynamic and the feeling that the "kids" are trying to boss them around. Do they have a rabbi or pastor who could talk with your dad?
Or a good friend of their generation who can address his worries? Do they know anyone in assisted living or a good nursing home who could tell them it's not so bad?
Sometimes all people can do is wait for an emergency and then move them - with the aid of Social Services, if necessary. I hope it doesn't get that bad for you.
Please keep checking for answers here, because many in the Agingcare community have had similar issues and they will be able to commiserate with you, and hopefully provide some insightful answers.
Good luck!
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I am looking for a smaller adult day care (up to 20 participants) in the Ridgewood, NY area. Any help?
I'd suggest that you go type the name of your state and the word "aging" in your browser. You should get a list of aging... I'd suggest that you go type the name of your state and the word "aging" in your browser. You should get a list of aging services in your state. Look for something about caregiving and follow through. Every state has a version of the National Family Caregiver Support Program. It may have a slightly different name but when you find something similar, click the link and look for a contact. Then ask the contact person for advice. They should have a list of places or else know someone else who can help you locally.
Another option is if you have an office for the Area Agencies on Aging in your community, they can be a wonderful resource. Their national website is www.n4a.org.
Good luck,
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Another option is if you have an office for the Area Agencies on Aging in your community, they can be a wonderful resource. Their national website is www.n4a.org.
Good luck,
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Extra visitors. I don't want company. Any suggestions?
Ismiami said "whatever you decide is right." That's the essence of this. You work full time and this, being the age of... Ismiami said "whatever you decide is right." That's the essence of this. You work full time and this, being the age of computers, you work from home. Nearly any of us who are caregivers have noticed that people don't have a clue to how much work we do.
The same is true for those who work from a home office. You're home, aren't you? Thus, they think you must be free to entertain at the ring of the doorbell. Nothing could be further from the truth. Marry the two jobs - being a caregiver and being self-employed or working from a remote office at home - and you have double the reason to ask for proper notice.
I do think that if you are firm enough, people will do one of two things. They will stop visiting or they will contribute. They are likely good people who want to help out but are uncomfortable trying to visit with your mother-in-law who just repeats herself. Therefore, they expect you to be the "middle person" and help them along. Only you can change this mindset.
It is good for your mother-in-law to have company, but it's not right to put the time burden on you. Try calling the visitors at home and relating to how much their visits mean to your mother-in-law. Then, suggest ways that they can more comfortably visit with her and let you have some time off. Make suggestions about how to visit with your mother-in-law - perhaps by watching an old movie together or looking at photo albums. Try to help them out by saying that you’ll contribute the movie or make sure photo albums are handy. I think many of these people believe they are doing something good by visiting and they really don’t understand what they are doing to you. Honesty is the only way to get what you need. Be kind but firm in that you intend to use the time they contribute (thank them for this profusely) to have a break yourself.
This type of thing is likely out of your comfort zone. I’ve had to do things that are out of my comfort zone for similar reasons. You need to take care of yourself, and if some of the visitors drop out, then that’s how it is.
Good luck,
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The same is true for those who work from a home office. You're home, aren't you? Thus, they think you must be free to entertain at the ring of the doorbell. Nothing could be further from the truth. Marry the two jobs - being a caregiver and being self-employed or working from a remote office at home - and you have double the reason to ask for proper notice.
I do think that if you are firm enough, people will do one of two things. They will stop visiting or they will contribute. They are likely good people who want to help out but are uncomfortable trying to visit with your mother-in-law who just repeats herself. Therefore, they expect you to be the "middle person" and help them along. Only you can change this mindset.
It is good for your mother-in-law to have company, but it's not right to put the time burden on you. Try calling the visitors at home and relating to how much their visits mean to your mother-in-law. Then, suggest ways that they can more comfortably visit with her and let you have some time off. Make suggestions about how to visit with your mother-in-law - perhaps by watching an old movie together or looking at photo albums. Try to help them out by saying that you’ll contribute the movie or make sure photo albums are handy. I think many of these people believe they are doing something good by visiting and they really don’t understand what they are doing to you. Honesty is the only way to get what you need. Be kind but firm in that you intend to use the time they contribute (thank them for this profusely) to have a break yourself.
This type of thing is likely out of your comfort zone. I’ve had to do things that are out of my comfort zone for similar reasons. You need to take care of yourself, and if some of the visitors drop out, then that’s how it is.
Good luck,
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A wife verses step daughter's power of attorney for husband's social security benefits. Is what's happening le...
This sounds illegal. Generally, the wife would get half of her husband's SS when he is alive (if it's more than what she would get... This sounds illegal. Generally, the wife would get half of her husband's SS when he is alive (if it's more than what she would get on her own) and he collects the full amount, and then if he dies, she gets his full check (not both). I can't imagine what is going on here, but someone needs to help her check with Social Security and see what happened. She may need the advice of an attorney. A POA doesn't give anyone the right to take money that isn't theirs.
Good luck,
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If my caregiver is on Disability, will she disqualify herself with these payments from my Aid and Attendance?
That's a question she needs to ask her disability social worker. It would depend on why she is disabled (her physical condition) and... That's a question she needs to ask her disability social worker. It would depend on why she is disabled (her physical condition) and how much money she is allowed to make. She'd definitely need to report the money so she should go through the right channels. If she's basically providing you with company and she doesn't make too much it may be okay. She needs to check it out.
Good luck to you both,
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Good luck to you both,
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I would like to have someone go to a nursing home help my sister address her Christmas cards. Where can I look...
I can relate to this. I used to do this for my mother. It was very important to her that she send the card but she couldn't do the... I can relate to this. I used to do this for my mother. It was very important to her that she send the card but she couldn't do the addressing. As Madeaa mentioned, ask about volunteers. Many nursing homes have an auxiliary of volunteers and I would think this is a task someone from the group could take on. You may even want to suggest to the someone at the home that this would be a nice project for many residents.
Churches often send volunteers to visit, so if your sister belongs to a church, contact someone there and ask if there is a volunteer who could help. If there is a college in the community where she lives, there may be volunteers or interns in some programs who could do this kind of work.
I'd discuss this need with the social worker. Of the many things people in nursing homes could use assistance for, this is pretty easy "duty." Good luck with this. We'd love to hear if you find help.
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Churches often send volunteers to visit, so if your sister belongs to a church, contact someone there and ask if there is a volunteer who could help. If there is a college in the community where she lives, there may be volunteers or interns in some programs who could do this kind of work.
I'd discuss this need with the social worker. Of the many things people in nursing homes could use assistance for, this is pretty easy "duty." Good luck with this. We'd love to hear if you find help.
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Can sudden collapses be related to taking anti-depressants?
With all of that testing I assume they checked your potassium levels, but I've seen instances where that wasn't done. Low potassium can cause collapse. You may want to see if your potassium was checked.
If your potassium is okay, you could, with your doctor's help, cut back on Serzone. Don't try to do this without help. You will need to be weaned. However, I'd check with a gerontologist or another family specialist if you can. A second opinion never hurts.
Best of luck,
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