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Oh...my...God.... fried Krispy Kreme doughnuts... I wouldn't want the burger, but the results of pigging out on the re-fried doughnuts would live on my ass and thighs forever... You're torturing me, KentuckyKate... I didn't heed your spoiler alert. I'll be thinking this one over all day. Deep fried Krispy Kremes... omg...
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that's what i want to know; when the hell do they STOP CALLING! i mean really, just what the heck do you have to do? haven't you done enough? i certainly think so! enough is enough, these people are really stupid. emotional IQ of zero.
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Lisa - hope you've had a great day at the Fair! As you'll probably have gathered, I live in Kentucky, too, just east of L'ville as a matter of fact, so am enjoying greatly this fabulous weather day and weekend - hope to get caught up on some gardening that has gone undone way too long.

Judy: spoiler alert! this next paragraph offers a pretty terrible food visual! It's actually one that always discourages me from eating for a while! And, meanwhile, will enjoy thinking about all those fair food goodies - weren't there deep-friend Krispy Kreme doughnut hamburgers last year?

Austin, thank you for your interest in our situation. We are, so far, much more fortunate than many other folks, but Mom's alcoholism and her co-dependent friend have come to a point where steps have to be taken. I've been doing research on legal implications in Texas, where she lives, and am going to search to see if some other threads have information on all the things we need to think about and, I guess, start a new thread, so this one stays focused appropriately. is it the case on this site that everyone has more or less her own thread, and follows others? All help appreciated. Cheers to all. KK
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Oh, boy. I bet Austin's right, that your mom believes she can somehow force you back into taking her in. You knew when you finally got her out of the house, that it wasn't going to be all rosy, but, man, I had no idea just how much drama, deception and manipulation DQ had in store for you. How do you get UN-involved in all of this? Isn't there a point where they stop calling you? Is this what Beth is supposed to facilitate? She's out of your house but not out of your hair, you know? I'm sitting here shaking my head with my eyebrows furrowed in a most unattractive way, just thinking about this. Do you remember that PigPen character on the Snoopy cartoon? The guy who always had a cloud of dirt around him? This is how I picture DQ, with a shitstorm circling her instead of dirt. No disrespect, my friend, but that's my visual.
I hope you have a great time at the fair. Ours is always in October, when the temps finally become bearable to be walking around outside. I heard they had deep fried scorpions on the menu last year. I've got a few they can cook up, for sure. Sick. I've always wanted to try that fried twinkie though... Leave it to me to start a topic and then somehow twist it into food! This diet is making me crazy. Well, Lisa, I hope you're not too tired and busy with work this week to keep us posted. I miss you when you're not around. Keeping you in my thoughts, as always. xx, J.
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Lisa that is unbelievable but I am sure you are not surprised -maybe in her crazy mind she thinks you will have to take her back into your home-she may still think you have to do that for her-remember it's not my problem-keep us posted on your saga.
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Hi Kate!!! Welcome!!!! Hi everyone!!! Wow, this week has felt so long. First 2 weeks are hell trying to get used to getting up at 3:45. Planned on sleeping in this morning, but my bandit had different ideas. Threw himself across my neck whining so here I am. Have a lot of reading to catch up on. The ky state fair is here so Doug and I are going today. Beautiful weather.

Update on DQ: made the nursing staff in rehab call an ambulance to take her back to hospital. This time she managed to get them to move her to the rehab she's gone to for years. Her claim was she was mistreated. So Peggy called. What I got out of our conversation was that the facility has concerns about her living there on her own. That she has not been successful in her placement. I just knew this was coming. So it's time to get on the phone and call Beth and send her to this other rehab and discuss her options with her if she's asked to leave. I'm sure they will have to find other placement. She dosen't qualify for round the clock nursing, which I'm positive that's her aim with all her bullshit over the past months. I do know one thing for certain. SHE WILL NEVER COME BACK IN MY HOME!!! I only work for 3 hours Monday, then school starts tuesday. I'll get on the phone to make sure this Beth knows where she is now and send her there. I

I sure have missed you guys and I'll catch up with everyone when we get home from the fair. Have a great day my friends!!! Lisa
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Kathleen-tell us more aboutthe intervention with Mom I thin it is great I assume you have an outcome you hope to obtain-is your whole family getting involved-how do you think it will turn-it is great if the sibs if any are on the same page-looking forward to hearing about what happens-I have seen them on tv usually with lots of drama.
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Hi, all you wonderful women and Doug and good husbands. (Hi to other men, too, if you're there - just doesn't sound like you are). Way back, in April or May, someone said Lisa's story should be a book and while that may have happened, since I've only read through post 500-something, plus about the last week's worth, let me just say, this IS a book - remember the serial stories magazines used to publish. This would do Dickens proud! Truly good characters; truly evil characters; dramatic story lines; hope springs eternal. Lisa and Doug and Jen and Beth, next Derby I'll be drinking a mint julep toast to you. Cat and Rebecca and Judy and Emjo and Kimbee and Ladee, and same to you. I'm sorry if I missed other regulars - sometimes I get so caught up in the story that I forget to look who is writing. Cat, I know the wedding will be/was (?) quite wonderful. Your granddaughter is so lucky to have you. I don't know yet if there are pictures on this site, but sure am wanting to see some!

Kimbee, there's a great gadget to go with cameras: the Gorillapod - it will hold a camera anywhere!

I need to be doing real work, yet for the third (extended) session in a row, find myself needing to catch up on this thread. My sibs and I will have an intervention with Mom next weekend, which I expect will only be the beginning of a new cycle, so Lisa and all of you are an inspiration and a reminder of my many blessings. Your love and care for each other comes through like a rainbow. Thank you for your dedication and unceasing commitment. Kathleen
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Kimbee, I've been doing some out of the ordinary things for gifts for my husband lately. I got him a flight in a helicopter for one birthday. He had a powered parachute ride for another - its like an air go-cart with a prop and a parachute. My sons went to a car race with him this year for his birthday. Does your husband have something that he'd love to do, but hasn't? The helicopter thing was a Living Social deal, so it wasn't outrageous. If he likes the camera thing, and likes taking pictures, is there some kind of accessory that will allow him to take pictures at night or have some different kind of focus (I know nothing about photography)? Oh! I got my husband set up to brew beer one year for his birthday. He loves beer, so I went to a brew supply place and had them put together everything he needed, and a book with recipes. He's loved that thing for years - had some good brews and some nasty ones. Just some thoughts. What's hubby in to? And, thanks for the well wishes. My son is feeling better. He's still got pain and bloat and has a CT scan Tues, but the nausea isn't as bad and he seems like he's got more energy. Whew, huh?
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Kimbee, is he an outdoors kinda guy? hiker/camper/fisherman/backpacker/rockclimber/mtn biker etc? i would/might be the person to ask if he is.
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Thanks Lisa, still pretty sick, but better. Thanks for letting us know you are ok. Have a good day at work! When you have time, send us a DQ update.
Cat: if you check in we hope you are getting in relax mode.
Anybody hear anything from Rebecca (RLP). We haven't heard from her in a long time. If anyone has her email, or phone, can you check on her?
Joan sending you extra hugs. Bookworm, you have enough on you, please don't let others torture you with scary movies and dolls! Judy, hope your son feels a little better (and mom too). Jeanne, hope things are calm and safe at your house. Missing all the rest of you too. Also missing our laughs and funny stories, so read on...
Can you help me with something? I'm in terrible need of birthday present ideas for my hubby, he never "wants" anything, and I am the WORST at man-gifts. I ordered him a new small 14mpx camera (that he was truly excited about) ahead of time, but the mailman handed him the package directly, so I ended up having to give it to him then. He liked it so much he got out the big camera to show me all the great things IT could do. Thought of a new tire for the lawnmower (he LOVES to mow), but not sure if it would make it successfully onto the wheel and be in still new condition, if you know what I mean! The old one is losing air, and as a result I keep seeing some very unusual patterns and gouges in the lawn (which I'm supposed to be ok with, cause they are caused by the low-air tire, hmm). I checked to see which one it is, don't think it's losing air: it's flat as a pancake. There seems to be some appeal to needing to keep filling up the tire, or worse yet, making those awful scalped patterns all over the yard. One year he was just drooling over every ad for Dremyl (sp?) Tools. After it had not been used even once in two or three years, I got it out and made it my home pedicure tool. So it was only used once! The only thing I really know he would love to have is a big outbuilding, but not the kind you can buy at Lowes, the kind with a poured concrete floor that costs $10,000+, you know, the ones that are bigger than the home, exactly what he had when we met! The ones I see and think look good are the "matches the house kind" that probably cost more than a house! So send me any ideas you have, except any that involve WalMart (no, I can't go there-I would end up in jail, and not enough time to get Ladee to shop and ship). If you missed Ladees wally adventures on the CG thread, go look back for the story of her attempt to by an on-sale vacuum and then read forward through yesterday. Luv you all, Kimbee
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Kimbee, I hope your feeling much better!!!!
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Ho everyone! Been Mia. What a week. Another long day today. Young couple next door having their new roof put on and Doug and I furious. They stripped it yesterday. Now it's starting to rain. Fraid they found incompetent asses. it's 4 a.m. And I woke Doug. He's over there with neighbor trying to get hold of that company to get tarps over here now. When we saw the people who was giving him estimate, we begged him to use our guys. Our house and garage was done in 9 hours. Every one have a terrific day!!!!
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Thanks for the germ busting hug! Feeling a little better. Hope everyone is having a good day. Lisa hope you enjoyed your training today. Kimbee
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BIG (((((((HUGS))))) and germ busting power going ur way. Your hubby is a gem! Sorry you are still not feeling well. I had hoped the new meds had kicked in - prayers....
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Luv you all. All great thoughts. I agree, if I was a bullied kid, no better than YOU Lisa to be in my corner! I am still so sick, feel just awful. Hubby is making me hot teas w lemon & honey, and taking sweet care of my mom! Luv that man... Can u all send some more kick ass power? I gotta get well...invisible non-germy hugs to all of you! Kimbee
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((((((((((((((Lisa))))))))))))))))) I hear you!!!! That is awesome! Bullying laws and resources for dealing with it should be everywhere. I know the despair in their eyes must haunt you, and the joy of seeing their souls restored is a great blessing, You are where you are for a reason - and no small part of that is because you have overcome despite the abuse in your own childhood.
cat - you went in another direction because that is life and sometimes life is not easy, and sometimes we don't forget or get over the bad stuff, but we carry on, and we grow, and we reach out and use our bad experiences to help others. I believe that is God's plan as we can only do it with His help, but it does't mean that life is painless, or that the scars have disappeard - in my experience anyway.
love, ((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))) and prayers!♥♥♥
Joan
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Find a good therapist to help you get back on track. My mother was abusive my whole life. I now have her in a personal care home. She also has financial issues. Because of her debt I now control her money. She would also spend all her money on QVC if I let her have access. I am still trying to figure out what to do with her debt as right now I am being harassed by her creditors and there is no money to pay them. Therapy is helping me deal with doing what is necessary and learning what is not my responsibility as well as getting past the guilt and anger.
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Cat, thank you. Stories like carolinas and my own childhood is why I love my job. What I do does not require a college education, but as bus drivers we are able to see children in a abusive and dangerous situation and make that phone call to get them to safety. I have literally sent help for some children that I see absolute despair in their eyes. When I see that child 2 weeks later at the same school and see a smile on that face, the feeling is just indescribable. I go back to work tomorrow for 4 days and school starts a week from Tuesday. Kentucky is one of the states that passed the bullying law and tomorrow we will be in class for bully training. Our county has set up their own unit for drivers and teachers. 4 retired policemen are heading this. We all are very excited. So many parents have no ideal their child is being bullied because children are embarrassed and ashamed. The very best part I am excited about? This unit will bring out in the open to unsuspecting parents with resources for their children to be counseled. And most importantly to put a stop to it. middle schoolers, HERE WE COME! :))))
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Great post Emjo. Love, Cat
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Lisa: I did like what Ladee said and you are also right, that others haven't lived it and so it is a shock to them. I know you haven't told us half, maybe not even a quarter, of what you went through growing up.

One day when I was working in my pre-retirement life, I went to the home of a little girl who just hours before had arrived home from the hospital. She had osteosarcoma and her leg had been amputated just above the knee. She was lying on the living room couch and her leg was starting to hurt.

Her dad was an abusive drunk, although he was sober that day. This kid had a little cat that meant the world to her. While she was in the hospital, her dad got drunk and through the kitten at the wall. As a result, the kitten's hip was broken.

The little girl, Carolina, was starting to cry as her next pain med was administered. That little kitten, hobbled and drug itself over to her and pulled itself up the side of the sofa and laid next to her. She put her arm around it and stopped crying. The kitten purred so loud and snuggled into her.

I just looked at these two injured souls who found love and comfort in each others touch and was at least be grateful for that moment they shared and the depth of their tenderness for each other. They were such a comfort for each other.

Don't be too concerned about Jen hearing your mom rave on the phone. You can't always protect her. So she gets an opportunity to hear some of what you lived as a child. The thing is she get's to hear it at a safe distance, a million miles away from your childhood, and with you standing strong by her side. Remember that she teared up and said, "I can't believe she raised you." That's because you are so amazing.

My mom went through a lot of health problems and a few major surgeries. She was somewhat frail and with so many health issues that her life was literally at risk each time. I was by her side through it all. She was tough and she was a trooper.

Now I would describe my relationship with my mom as a case of, "the irresistible force meets the immovable object." Nevertheless, I had to have surgery sometime after my mom passed away. I was a scared, but then I thought of my mom and it really had an impact on me. I thought, if my mom could get through all the shit she went through, I can sure as hell get through this. It was a huge comfort to me and it totally changed the way I felt. My anxiety melted away and I was grateful for her example and every moment I spent with her during those difficult times.

Nobody gets the charmed life so remember that you are giving Jen a well of strength to pull from. When she has difficulties in her life, she will see you as a source of strength to pull from. What more could any child ask for but a loving mom who gives you strength. Understand, Lisa, that pool of strength you leave with your children will continue after you are gone.

In my heart, I think many people who truly get what you are saying, respond with I'm sorry, because they are sorry. They're sorry they could not have prevented it and they think of their children and are grateful they are safe and sorry you were not protected. I also think it's kind of you to tell them that you are ok. Maybe expand it a bit and say, "For some reason I was able to survive. I've been extremely fortunate and have managed to have a great husband, a solid marriage and wonderful children." Should you feel like saying that, you will lift the spirits of many and give them hope too.

Regarding Carolina, let me just say that I had a craving for cheese, just like my buddy Judy. It took time, but dad was removed from the home. Some friends of mine helped and we got the kitten medical attention. Carolina passed away two years later with her kitten by her side.

I don't like to tell these stories because they may make you sad, but sometimes they may give you a reason to be grateful and to realize how much your life with worth to yourself and those that love you.

If I've bummed you out too much, go back and read Ladee's post. It was the most uplifting and I don't know why I went in another direction.

Love you all, Cattails
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((((((((hugs)))))) - been out on an miniadventure - oh my, what a difference a day makes!
Looks like it is coming to a head, though I know I have thought that mother was going over the edge, but she has alays pulled herself back just in time. Lisa,
Jen's admiration, and respect for you has grown - that is a good thing. She is a big girl now, and she is your daughter, and she is fine, So are you. A family evening is great -rivets/rib eyes and all - and corn in the shuck - Yummy!!! Cabbage on the grill. I love cabbage!. Recipe please! We had cold chicken and wilted salad. The motorhome broke done on the way out of town, but thankfully G was able to pull it onto a side road where it can sit for a while - carburetor troubles.Always something, but these are minor. I sat on a grassy slope in the sun, and read a book while G tinkered - making lemonade from a lemon. Something you are very good at Lisa!!! Have a good nite everyone!
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Lisa, my 20 yr old niece just left from visiting me. The whole time they were here, I had it on the Olympic games. Just before she left, she asked me if I ever watch the SciFi channel. I said No, it's too scary. I tell you, you and her share the same types of movie. Scifi! Enjoy your scary show...
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Lisa the sisterhood of KAL are holding you up-sounds like Mom is cooking her own goose this time maybe a little too much drama-I will never forget the time when I worked at a hospital in Syracuse where maybe 3 nurses were holding on to a man trying to climb out of a 3 or 4 story building until the day staff came on duty also had a pt. under police guard handcuffed to the long side rails walking through the ward with the side rails and cuffs-had to wake the sleeping police officer say oh Sir your man is walking away with our bed rails-what fun those days were.
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Lisa, I know how you feel about Jen's reaction. But, this would be a good time to talk with your girls and help them to see something positive out of it. It's so strange. I guess because I'm not a mother, I don't have the mother's instinct to protect our kids. When I babysat all my nieces and nephews, it never occurred to me to protect them. When mom had grabbed my 6yr old niece's wrist and was squeezing it really hard, my niece had the look of about to cry. I grabbed mom's hand and slowly pried her hands from the wrist. At the same time, I calmly explained to niece that mom likes to grab people and squeeze real tight. Maybe next time, niece watch grandma's hand when passing by. When you see her hand coming at you, run away from it - like we do with the game Tag. Grandma doesn't know she's hurting you. After that, niece would always walk a little distance from my mom. When mom tries to grab her, she just dodges without any squealing, etc... I have done this will all those I babysat. So, all the nieces/nephews grew up accepting grandma "as is.".

Just a thought....
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Geesh, wish I could express myself like that girls. That really is how I'm going to try to start seeing things. It does have to be pretty shocking to them to hear.
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Ladee, thank you for expressing my feelings about the "sorry" responses. That is what I meant, but couldn't get it out right! Loved the riveteds too, hope you all enjoyed them. Luv and hugs to all of you, kimbee
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Thanks bw. I promise, I REALLY am ok. I feel very fortunate that she's doing all the work for me. This morning was a good thing. My regret is that I put her on speaker phone. I soooo did not expect jennifers reaction. And now my girl is just plain pissed. So she's ok too. So our rib eyes came off the grill juicy and tender and Judy later I will post how I make cabbage on the grill. Sooo good. And bw, we are popping popcorn and getting in our jammies to watch boogie man on scyfy channel. Boo!!!! I'll tell ya alllllll about it. Love ya sweetie! Lisa
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Lisa, this is just a guess, but possibly they are saying 'sorry' simply because you had to endure any of it..... not that they feel sorry for you... as medical professionals they see many people who DIDN'T make it thru the abuse... if it were me, I would choose to believe it is God using these people to say 'sorry' and that He has created such an awesome woman, who came on here, shared her story, has made an undeniable impact on all of us..... nothing happens in Gods world by mistake.... you have no idea how many people you have helped, and the fact that this is ongoing, you are sharing your struggles and conquests, we are all learning and growing too.... so 'sorry' means just what it says.... let others contribute to your healing... every time you hear that word now, look at it as another touch from God..... no Bible thumping here... and I hope I didn't offend anyone, I just know for me.... that is what gets me thru some days.... deciding it was God who sent that message.... just brings me peace..... lots of hugs...

And enjoy the 'riveteds'..... lord this thread has given me a whole new vocabulary..
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Well, Lisa, you will be saying that New Mantra a lot! So sorry about the stress this is causing you and the fam. At least everyone now knows how worse DQ is getting. I would never have asked the nurse if anyone had heard DQ's vile comments. You are so good at being pro-active with protecting yourself and the fam. Good for you!!! Take care and just do your best to enjoy the rest of your weekend.
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