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Her behavior this morning will be noted in her chart. I did ask her nurse if any of what she was screaming at me was heard by her. The worker serving breakfast went to the desk and asked them to come. They heard most of the vile coming out of her mouth. I asked her to please also include that in her report, and word for word what they remember. She promised she would, and also has noted she would like to speak with Peggy Monday morning. Then came those dam I'm so sorrys again. And I get it now folks. What I am use to horrifys others when they hear it. New mantra. "thank you, but I really am fine"
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Kimbee is right about recording the phone call. If your home phone doesn't do this, can you take a video with sound, of the call, with the number showing on the caller ID with a cell phone? Can this then be downloaded to a computer so you can email it to someone? Just a thought. I'm not technologically savvy, so maybe I'm talking out of my rear again. Happens a lot. Cabbage on the grill? Sounds like something I'd love. Just spray it with olive oil and grill?
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Lisa, any chance you recorded the call? Any chance you could set up to record future calls? Some phones have digital recorders in them, or answering machine message can be set to x-long time. Could be the nail in her coffin, so to speak? You are fine-tuned to her garbage-sure enough shit storm was eminent. In rehab, surely someone there heard it? Ask them to document asap. Rather than ask for relief, let it escalate-may get her a ticket to Lady of peace. Poor lady peace (twitches coming all round?). My guess: DQhaving some withdrawal. If rehab can't get order for sedatives, and she keeps it up, they will send her on somewhere. No doubt her BP's coming up, withdrawal or not. Lisa, hang tough, girl. Feel our arms around you and rest of family. Keep breathing and enjoy that dinner-yum! I am worried I may have made you feel bad earlier in one of my posts, I hope not, if I did, I'm sure sorry. I think all the kick ass women truly rock-you're all so special. And not only because of what you each have acomplished in life, but also because you are all special, kind and smart. Love you all, Kim
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As I was saying. Wish I could be there for those riviteds, haha, I mean ribeyes.

Cat
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Good grief, Lisa. She is really losing it. Can the nurse/doctor call your mom's doc and take the step to send her to Our Lady of Peace? Absolutely, do what you think is best and keep us posted.

Wish I could be there for those
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Had ribeyes marinating. :)))
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Horrible horrible morning. She's been trying to call 911 to go back to hospital. Been calling house all morning. I think she has literally lost her mind. Screaming at me to come get her out of there and she promises never to bother me again. Told me she hasn't been given her Meds or breathing treatments since she's been there. Hung up with her and spoke to nurse. She read me her list of Meds + times given her breathing treatments. I asked the nurse if they could not call her dr and have him order her a sedative. She informed me that is considered restraining and is illegal. Oh brother. We have a hospital here called our lady of peace where she could be committed. if the day continues as is I will call her dr to have him committ her. Her last call this morning and her words to me served as a reminder why I will never keep her in my life. I can only hope her behavior continues thru the weekend. If I can have her committed? Process can only work much faster I hope. While growing up she hid well her crazy. Her true personality is coming thru. She's losing control and can't stop it. There is absolutely no one in her path to harm or abuse. No kids. No grandchildren. No aunt Rae. She's a time bomb and it's ticking. I put her on speaker phone her last call. The five of us sat here stunned. Absolutely stunned. Jennifer teared, looked at me and said my god, she raised you. That woman hid that part while living here. And it wasn't this bad when she had me alone. Girls, it's just unexplainable. Keep ya posted. Just got home from orphanage picnic. Have had riveted marinating all night. Baked taters, cabbage on the grill. Fresh greens from the garden, and corn in the shuck on the grill. What I wouldn't give to have you all here to enjoy with us. Love you girls. Lisa
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Thanks Judy: I went to her wall and all I could find was her second post. I was feeling kind of sorry for her because she seemed brand new to AC. Hated to see her get criticized on her first attempt to post. Since previous posts have been removed, I wasn't aware of her naming her company. So, now I am up to date. Cheese is good. Love you, Cat.
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No, it wasn't mean spirited. She just didn't read the thread and then talked about respite and named her own company. She did this in another comment. I think her comments containing her company info had been reported (I must admit, I've had a cheese craving). Bookworm pointed out to her that this wasn't the place for self promotion and thanked her for her otherwise, good advice though, which was nice and really tactfully done.
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I'm confused. MyChoice evidently posted on Lisa's thread, but I can't find the post. I can find what I assume was her response to other comments made about her not reading the entire thread. Where did MC's first post go? Was it mean spirited?
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Me too cat! I taped it on VHS, and when Diana died I did the same. That would be my dream trip, but I could never wrap my head around an airplane trip that long. Too chicken.
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Lisa, i wish they'd put your mom in the psych ward. borderline personality disorder. narcissistic personality. histrionic personality. drug addict. i do believe she is a danger to herself and others, and THAT is the key deciding factor for any admission. she needs to be 5150'd.
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btw mychoice, i actually spent something like 8 hours reading every single one of Lisa's posts before i commented. and others here spent days reading EVERYONE'S posts before they did. it wasn't easy. i got so involved in the story i skipped a doctor's appt. i just felt it was courteous to do so. afterwards i took a long long nap.
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If only there was a way to edit our postings, we could add in something to the original post like this:

HEY, this situation has changed A LOT, so anything you think you might tell me now is probably COMPLETELY POINTLESS.

Still feel the need to put your two cents in? NOT WITHOUT READING EVERY SINGLE COMMENT HERE YOU ARE NOT!!!

So you STILL want to try anyway, without reading ALL OF IT? Bugger Off!!!
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In 1994, I went to London. I took the tour to the Windsor Castle Tour. Unfortunately, the Queen was not in residence. The tour included going inside the famous cathedral beside the castle but since I was not of their religion, I didn't feel comfortable going in it. So, I bypassed that and went straight to the Castle. Very pretty! The ceiling is very high and when you look up, it's all painted with beautiful artwork. We weren't allowed to take photos because the light from the camera's would damage the original artifacts. My very first castle! By the way, the public restrooms outside of the Castle - you have to PAY to use it! You drop a coin in the slot near each stall door, and it would unlock it....First time I ever came across a Pay-to-use toilet! We went to a pub in which the employees dressed in the olden time. Took photos of them too! I sure miss traveling.....
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There were 1200+ Comments, I read the first page and the ones before me talking about London etc (so I wasn't aware)...I was just trying to offer a solution regarding the orginal question- and also to help others who might be in a similar situaton and were not aware of Respite
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Emjo, you beat me to it! xxo
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Seriously?
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MyChoice, if you would read some of the thread, you would find out that Lisa's mum is not with her any more, hasn't been for a while, and that is the best solution.
Have a good night!
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LOL judy! I was in England for 3 years and Scotland for 4 years. In 2 years you prob had more pub time than I did in 7
cat - re another thread - I am part welsh too - my paternal grandmother
it's all coming out of the woodwork now...
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Hmmm.... I lived in England for 2 years. I stood outside the palace once but then felt pretty silly looking in the gate with the crowd. But, I did spend a lot of time in The Queens Arms, a local pub near my house. Maybe that counts? I had 13 pubs within walking distance of my house. My husband thought he'd died and gone to heaven.
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Lisa: When Princess Diana married, I watched it live at 2 in the morning. I made cookies and got out a pretty tea service I had. A friend of mine came over and we watched the whole affair. Cat
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thx gals -don't forget the magic bracelets. cat and the tissues.. Even mother cries at weddings -the only time she cries.not from rage.
lisa - i don't understand the young ones, but I'lll take the attention -up to a point!
I am a royal watcher too -actually i was in the stands outside Buckingham palace for the Coronation of Queen E. in 1953. We travelled up the night before to get a place in the Canadian section. It was an amazing experience.
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Omg, that's hilarious. I'm sure you will be beautiful cat. Make sure those cans not only lift but separate. You don't wanna clank walking down that aisle!!! Wear em with prize for all of us girl. I just love weddings. I swear I wish I had the nerve to be a wedding crasher. I still get teased by everyone because I took a personal day at work to watch the wedding of William and Kate. Ok, it's out. I'm a royal watcher!
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Yes, 8 days to the wedding. We are leaving this Wednesday, staying overnight in Seattle and then fly out Thursday morning. Be back Monday evening. Got to find some shoes tomorrow. Then the Gma will be ready; blue tights under a flowing see through skirt, lift-up tuna cans and some stylish pumps. Hee Hee. Cat
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Hell yeah Joan!!!!! You da bomb!!!! And still getting hit on by the younger men. Lord, if that ever happened to me, I'd have to decline. Gave up gymnastics years ago. Snicker snicker snort snort. And cat!!! What is it now? 8 days till wedding? So exciting!!!!
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Joan: You ARE perfect. In every way!!!!!!! Love, Cat
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I totally agree with ladee. I'm finding that the more I give little information of my abused childhood, the more relieved I am of not keeping it all inside. Maybe, if I keep on, one day, I will have no problem seeking therapy because I no longer fear of "opening the can of worms" of my lost childhood memories. As it is now, most of my childhood memories are so locked deep inside me, that I have no memory of it at all. What I put on these threads are just the ones that I do remember. So, it makes one wonder, how Bad can those hidden memories be????

So, I really do believe, Lisa, that if you keep telling it over and over, you will find that it no longer hurts you as much as it did before. And before that. And before that. Pretty soon - which I haven't gotten there yet - I think we will recall those bad memories with sadness - and the wastefulness of such actions from our supposed "loved ones." I hope I'm making sense.

I found this out in your thread. Remember when that commentor was so gungho religious and said that we had to be Respectful and Grateful to our parents, and feel Honor in caring for them? And I lost my temper? Then I felt bad for doing that? When I did that, I found out that I felt a little bit lighter than before.

Of course, the hateful words that DQ said about Johnny's death and you should be the one to die - that is absolutely unforgivable. Just saying those words have ended whatever normal relationship you would have had with DQ.

But you know what, you have a wonderful family and Us to help you along and to handle these stresses caused by DQ and the red tapes. Take care!! Hugs to you!
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Lisa, another way to look at having to tell 'the story' so many times, is that every time the words are spoken out loud, that have a little less power to hurt you... you are giving that abuse the sunlight.... things that are slimy like abuse, well, they just don't survive in the sunlight.... so you are more empowered... look at what you have done with your life.... how incredible.... no matter what was said, you made a great life for yourself and for your family.... so those old words and memories have less power everytime you say them outloud.... it's sorta like puking!!! getting the poison out of your body.... It will always be with you... but at some point it will be memories without all these pictures and feelings to go with it... I call it "memories without all the feelings"... and you'll get there... you are half way there now..... and as soon as you can be sure you will not have to be involveld, it will go faster and smoother... about the time you get on top of it,,, another pointless encounter of having to deal with it... but all in all, this has happened in a realativiely short amount of time.... I know it doesn't feel that way to you, you are living it... but as observers, we see you "moving like Jagger" with all this.... so, breathe the fresh air... it's getting fresher by the moment.... lots of hugs to you sister friend....
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Judy: I haven't forgotten you. You are foremost in my mind and heart. Love, Cat
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