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Good for you Lisa!!!! I am in mother's city for an appointment with a specialist, and she is after me to do this and that for her - the main thing being something that she should have sorted out with my sister, but didn't, so now wants to me to look after it. I am not visiting her - I need to get home to look after some things for myself, and I am going to write, and tell her that problem is between her, and my sister to solve.Last time my sister visited she left a box of things that mother had given her for me to mail to her.I should have said no, but my no muscles were no as strong as they are now. She had adequate time to mail them to herself, or buy another suitcase and take them with her, as she had adequate time to sort out this recent thingwhile she was here. Guess what - I will tell her - It is between my sister and you and "Not my problem."
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Yeehaw, Baby! Keep singing, "Not My Problem!" You will start to notice how easy and joyful it gets!
Sending love to all of you! XOXOXOJB
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If you do talk to her whuch I do not reccomend tell her she does not want to see your face and to call someone who gives a damn-remember NOT MY PROBLEM-let the social worker earn her pay. Keep strong my friend.
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Well Austin, you didn't have to wait long. Hedged. Phone ringing off the hook. One message after another. She's being released from hospital today. Need a ride home. Need to stop at pharmacy and grocery. Have no food in the house. I have no clean clothes. Ummm, wasn't this the woman that never wants to see my face again. Good luck mom. Not my problem.....
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Lisa you are very strong and she will provide drama but you will be fine because you know how she operates and she is no longer able to pull your strings-I am waiting to see what she pulls next.
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Lisa, terrible bus story, just awful. I know your bosses, kids, teachers and parents are grateful for your wonderful way of doing your job!

About mom- she has consumed your time, energy and family for so long, you are bound to have a bit of a void now. It may be time to get going on a rewarding project to focus away from mom. Can you paint that room with your cape on? I am sure she will get busy cooking up some new drama quickly. Rehab would provide a whole new audience, she may go for that aspect alone! Either way, she WILL try to re-engage you-be ready-and see it for what it is. As cat pointed
out, you are doing less, and that does help extinguish her reward for sick efforts.
You are amazing! Kim
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The biggest compliment that can be given to a bus driver is the faith by a supervisor that you can protect those who need protection. We all know how tough and loving you are. Go for it!
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Get out that cape, Lisa!
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Elisa, we are here cheering you on! Be strong!
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It's great to hear your strength showing.
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Hey girls. Quiet day today. Had my 8 hour update to day for transportation. Lots of new federal regulations. We are finally getting cameras on all the buses. So I'm feeling very good about going back to work in august. We have some cameras on buses and they showed us a video from one of the runs in our county where two females in middle school were sexually molested and the driver did nothing. Their faces were held to the boys involved crotches while they gyrated. They did this repeatedly. The man did nothing. The girls were hollering for help. I'm not sure why I'm sharing this with you except last year was a bad year dealing with mom and trying to leave my emotions here at the door. I spent so many days getting off the bus just crying where I left one stressful situation and coming home to another. The video proved to me I have to get back where I was 3 years ago. These middle school students get more violent every year. My coordinator puts me on problem runs with drivers to get them under control. I'm now even more determined. I really believe I'll be in a good place when we start back. Thanks for listening. Love and more love to all, lisa
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YUP!
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Lisa I agree with Cat and Judy and Emjo -your Aunt Rea will be able to stick up for herself-your Mon will continue to cause drama-you staying out of it will show your Mom she can not pull your strings anymore and will get that message.
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I loved Emjo's statement, "We are the big fixers and are overly responsible." Lisa, that is so true and it is our collective cross to bear. We need to keep it in check and remember that "discretion is the better part of valor." Love ya, Cattails
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Me too, I agree with Jane and cattails. We are the big "fixers" and are overly responsible. You don't have to fix this. Let the "main players" do what they want to. Your mum is trying to get at you any way she can, and she will continue to do things like this. You don't have to react to them - or not so that she knows that you are. It will take a while for your emotions to calm down, and for you not to be vulnerable to the games. You do have feelings about what your mum is doing , but you don't have to act on them. The sky will not fall in, and Aunt Rae, who has survived very well so far, will continue to do well. (((((((hugs)))))) I know it is hard, and whatever you do we all are behind you.
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Lisa: I so agree with JaneB. Look at you have been through all of your life, especially the last few years. You are still standing and your Aunt Rae and cousin Annie are just fine. If I am correct, your Aunt Rae is your mom's sister? So she is your Aunt Rae's family too. So your comment about protecting her from your family doesn't really make sense.

Let it go. You, your Aunt Rae and your cousin Annie are fine people. Accept that your mom cannot be controlled and no one is responsible for her foul, lying mouth. She is sick. Don't argue with the sick or their followers.

Live your life to the fullest and love the ones that love you best. That's all you should do. Hugs, Cattails
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Yes,mist impacting the ones you love best outside Doug and the girls AND AND AND...they are handling it. They are. They are up to it. This is just an old reflex. If Aunt Rae needed your back up she would ask.

Take a deep breath. If you enter into ANY dialogue with these virtual strangers, you engage with your mother. If she can't get at your directly, she will get at you indirectly. And those busybodies will report back. That is what busy bodies do! And your Mom will feed the gossip demon until she hears she has hit the jackpot.

Let your Aunt involve the priest if SHE needs to. Aunt Rae does NOT need you to enter the battle here. Most of us, YOU do not need you to enter the battle here.

It's not my problem. It's not my problem. It's not my problem.

Maybe add: any reaction to her is a point for her, and we start the game over, withdraw, sweetie. Go cold turkey, no matter how good the lure looks.
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Your right cat. We'll be with aunt Rae Friday night. I'm going to let her make the decision. I'll do whatever she wishes. This is her church, her friends. The thing is I liked this phylis woman when I met her. And I believe she liked Doug and I. Never met the daughter who chose to run her mouth to my cousin. I told aunt Rae it sounded like playground nastiness. My cousin asked this woman how well do you know Delores. She told her she met her one time but her mom talks to her often. She told her her ridiculous accusations didn't deserve a reply, but I think I will anyway.my cousin, along with my mother, could sit down with you and your mother and tell you some horror stories that would have you crying uncle within minutes. So be careful what you say. It's idiots like you that rush in half cocked making an already stressful situation just that much worse when your facts are one sided. So I think Annie handled it very well. I am so glad she called me. Anything further she and I will take care of. Lord, will I ever get over this guilt letting that woman near my family. So tired of my life being a soap opera. Now it's affecting the ones who love me best outside my Doug and our girls. So that's it girls. I'll work with Annie to keep the nastiness from her.
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Lisa:

I'm surprised that this Phyllis would behave in such a poor manner. Shame on her. She must not be very bright, so now you know what your are up against in reasoning with her. Maybe others have a poor opinion of Phyllis too.

As long as your mother can breathe she will create havoc and spread hatred. That will never end. You, on the other hand, are going to have to let some nasty things go. At least then you are not giving her the satisfaction of a response and that, is some big way is an end.

I feel for your Aunt Rae, but I think she is a big girl and can take care of herself. People have known her for years and some gossiping hag isn't going to change their opinion of her. Same for your cousin.

So my advise is sit on your hands and if you absolutely must do something, talk to Father Mike and your Aunt Rae. Don't confront Phyllis, it will only stir the pot and your mom will be so happy she may live another 10 years.

Hugs, Cattails
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Diavalon, what a great idea! It would be nice to stand up for Aunt Rae, Lisa, I agree... something should probably be said for her sake but its like poking a hornet's nest. In a way, it might be better to let the situation sit and ignore those silly, hateful women. On the other hand, such hurtful stuff shouldn't go without a slap back. Father Mike might be a great option. Seems pretty funny that this venom is coming from a few church ladies. WWJD? Maybe they should be reminded.
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To be honest with you. I think serveral, serveral notes ago you talked about a Father Mike ( I believe that is what you said his name was) I would go talk with hime and tell him the whole story if he doesn't know already, then ask him to either speak to these people on your behalf or go with you when you do. If you go alone all kinds of things can and will be stated wrong. You must protect yourself and your auntie Rae. Please consider this..
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Well girls, my mothers nasty sticky tentacles have reached further than I thought. She met a woman in her rehab where she stays after hops visit. This woman raised her children in the same church as my aunt Rae. The woman's daughter knows my cousin very well and approached her after church weeks ago. Blasted my cousin Annie about me throwing her out and what a piss poor sister my aunt rae is for letting it happen. So my aunt called me back today and confessed that when she called me weeks ago she already knew and she suspected I was worrying about telling her. But she thought if she called it would somehow make it easier for me to open up. My aunt has been a member of her church for more than 50 years. And like me, she shielded her children from this family. Her mom was pretty bad, but nothing like mom. And my uncle Joe died 2 years ago, one week after my sister. So with the insurance money she fulfilled a lifelong dream and with a large group from church went to Rome and visited the Vatican.she's already had 2 of the women call her about the buzz this woman and her daughter are creating. She told me to hell with them. Everyone who knows her knows better. Well, I just can't sit on my hands. My aunt has a very powerful love for her church and her faith. I know who and where this Phyllis lives. Should I go make a plea for her to stop? Explain it all to her? It's never going to stop is it? She's just going to do all she can to beat me down. She knows how badly she can hurt me by hurting my aunt.
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Good luck to you.

I am really struggling with the same. Maybe not as drastic. I feel so obligated and I guess, like you, I keep wishing I could resolve my relational problems with my mother. Funny how the children treated the worst early on are the ones who keep trying until the end to find acceptance with a parent who doesn't have it to give. I am so sorry for my mom that she is so angry and hateful. But what hurts the most, is I feel myself taking on the same bitterness in self-defense. :(
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Lisa, I only regret that I could not have been in the hallway listening with the nurses. Cattails, I totally agree with the fact that doing things less and less by degrees is the easiest way for those of us who can't always escape the drama. Finally, we just won't be there to experience the drama that wears us out. It just occurred to me, Lisa, you have helped your mother with her health despite her fighting it. I hope she can one day be grateful to you even if she never expresses it.
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Whoohoo! Perfect, and priceless!
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Lisa you rock girl-now they got her number now-you made my day -when you get a chance read your words from your first posting-see how far you have come-you are my hero.
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Hey Lisa, It's all good as they say. You needed to do what you did and what you do is less and less. Any contact just reinforces that. So don't feel bad or like it's a step back. I don't think it is at all. Love, Cattails
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Didn't proofread before posting.... " a situation for you to BE FREE".....
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Lisa, I think you going was a blessing... for one thing,staff finally saw what you have been trying to avoid.... and I don't know if you were maniputlated or not, all I know is that your debt is paid to the nurse.... give yourself the credit, that you did the right thing for the right reasons.... sounds to me like God had his hand in it, so let's give Him the credit for the situation, and you tons of credit for following thru.... And now THEY know... they can't invalidate you ever again, or shame you for not being a dutiful duaghter, or judge you... that's why I feel it's a God thing, He set up a situation for you to free...... so very proud of you..... you just continue to amaze me, so much respect for you...... Go Lisa, clap clap, Go lisa, clap clap.... hip hip hoorayyyyyyyyy... YOU Are free, free at last...... hugs across the miles to you...
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Same here emjo. Nice rosy cheeks. No hoarseness. She was having withdrawals. The social worker called again. They are going to speak with mom about going to a rehab to be weened off the pain Meds. She asked if I wished to be present. Hell no. I have no further wish to be involved with any aspect of her care. Please proceed however you wish. I would prefer to be left completely out of it. She complete.y understood. Well duh!
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