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When you say still hypothyroid Llama, I am puzzled. Do you mean you are not treated with replacement meds such as levothyroxine. Is your TSH still too high?

I see your edit. You gained at first and now you can't, gain. That could happen with too much meds.

I was diagnosed years ago and have been on meds since then Actually I was first on meds as a child. and them as a late teen. They only gave it for a while then. But I have been on it continuously for years now needing dose adjustments sometimes.

You are a bit unusual, Llama. Most people who are hypothyroid gain weight.

I have trouble keeping weight off too. Have done all my life so I watch it carefully. When it comes down to it, for the most part it's what you eat. Most people put on a few lbs a year as an adult so if you don't adjust your eating you end up overweight. As you get older your metabolism slows down and you need less calories.
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Ana: Yep, still hypothyroid. Originally when first dx'd I gained a ton. But now cannot gain as a 76 y.o.
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MD: You don't want to be like me. Tough to keep weight on.
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🥰 today's words of wisdom...

"Don't wait until you're on your deathbed
to tell people how you feel.
You could be too weak to raise your middle finger."
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md1748, i'm a weight-gainer too (when i'm stressed).

"I've got 99 problems and they all involve carbs."

"I want to lose weight but I don't want to get caught in one of those
'eat right and exercise' scams."

"I was trying to lose weight.
Then I saw a cake
and a cake saw me..."

🙂🙂
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MD1748 - I know a puffer to be a puffy line or box quilted jacket, coat or vest. I love my puffer vests! Toasty trunk with full use of my arms.

I am hypothyroid too, and a stress eater. Unlike you, Llama, I can’t lose it. Even doing Weight Watchers and playing hockey 3x week. My diet buddy lost 76lb while I lost 8. Infuriating! I think I gained her lost 76lb while struggling with my mother.
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golden: Thank you, but it's not intentional. Went from a hypothyroid weight of 222# to 137 - 138#. No weight stays on.
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Llama - that's an unusual problem as we age. Good for you!

I guess I'm perplexed. I think properly fitting jeans can be worn by a person of any age. Am I out to lunch here?

Gershun, I agree - it's very personal and I wish you luck in finding things that you like. It's important to feel good in what you are wearing. Those dark wash jeans with a long sleeved top sound awesome, I guess I am not seeing your problem or maybe you are feeling you need a change. If you don't need stretchy waists, the world is your oyster. lol I wish!

Beatty, I see your emphasis is on jeans too, and leggings,

To me it's all in choosing what works for you.
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I can't seem to keep weight on. Been meaning to get some smaller size shorts.
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Saw 3 middle aged women yesterday in sport type leggings. The bright, super coloured flowery or graphic design type. Plainish tops, maybe a bright scarf. It's winter here. I get comfort wear. I get elastic waists. I get having tight pants to hold it all in. But I'm just not 100% sold.. I doubt they were just about to squeeze a run into their daily errands.

Sport wear has been comfort wear for a while I suppose.

It IS hard for middle aged women to find their nieche. Around here there is the Classic (nice collared shirt, nice jumper, nice jeans, puffer vest), the Smart Casual (tee & jeans, leather boots & bag, quality puffer), Casual (tee & leggings, puffer) & the Arty (unusual designs, long skirt) or The Bogan (checked man shirt, baggie trackie daks, slippers as day shoes & a glimpse of a 'whale tail' for a feminine touch).
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I admit I do have jeans with holes in them. They are my most comfortable cause they are baggy. But I mostly wear snugger dark wash jeans with a nice tapered long sleeve shirt or a long tee. In winter I'll sometimes wear black tights with a longish sweater over top.

My mom always wanted us to dress well. I was that kid in school who was wearing the conservative dress pants while all the other kids wore jeans. When I finally started choosing for myself my mom couldn't get me out of my jeans.

But I find it harder and harder to find appropriate clothing for me and when I say appropriate I mean clothes that suit me and don't make me look like I'm trying to look younger than my age. I feel that just cause I can get away with wearing jeans a twenty/thirty something would wear doesn't mean I should. But that's just me. When it comes right down to it people should wear whatever they want, within reason.

When DH shops with me he always points out things Taylor Swift would wear. I just say "Ah..............no!"

Golden, I know some people need the elastic waist band. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to sound discriminating.
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Sounds like a lovely intimate wedding, cw.

I like ivory color wedding dresses. I bet your nephew looked quite handsome!

I’m sure you looked beautiful in your new dress.
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I don't think there were any major hitches with the wedding NHWM, at least not from my perspective. The bride's dress was less elaborate than I imagined it would be, a lovely sleeveless ivory gown with a tulle over skirt and short train. No head gear, just a few baby's breath in her hair. The groom was handsome in his european style bespoke suit with lavender tie.
The guest list was very small, mostly just immediate family. Nephew was insistent he wanted all the children to be included and I was amazed they were so well behaved throughout the ceremony and meal.
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My elder daughter (enviro sciences) was leaving for a week of field work in the Canadian Shield. My mother was certain HER wardrobe was more suitable and tried to unpack my daughter’s layers of field pants, hiking boots, wading boots, gloves, etc. in favour of her sweaters, polyester pants and granny shoes. It was crazy!

At least she didn’t chirp “You left the house wearing THAT?!?” at them. That was reserved for me.

So so glad I went to a public school. Although I did occasionally wear kilts as I was a punk rocker.
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cw,

How was the wedding? What kind of dress did the bride wear?
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I always found it interesting that my mom could be critical of me but her grandchildren could do no wrong. She adored them and they adored her. I’m glad that for the most part, they had a good relationship.

I did discover that apparently a grandmother/grandchild relationship is quite different than a mother/daughter relationship. I am not a grandmother so I can’t speak to this first hand.

All I know is that my mother seemed to relish being a grandmother and enjoying her grandchildren without having the responsibility of raising them.

I am glad though that my mother didn’t criticize how my daughters dressed. She didn’t really criticize my eclectic taste in clothes or music when I was a teenager. Not that I would have changed my mind about what I liked.

I grew up in the mini skirt and micro mini skirt era. It killed me to wear my Catholic school uniforms! LOL 😆

The nuns made us kneel down on the floor and if our skirts didn’t touch the floor we were in trouble! No problem, as soon as I walked away, I would roll up my skirt!
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I have several pairs of fun patterned canvas sneakers (dogs, characters). And I buy and sew funky purses. I made a black cat clutch. Thrifted a colourful toadstool bag and a black and white corset purse. I have a few fun animal head knit winter hats.

Far from being a clothes horse. But atypical for my demographic.

I hate fiddling with pantyhose. If it’s warm enough to wear it, skip it. If it’s chilly, give me tights.
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So, who is a clothes horse? Or do you have a shoe fetish? Designer purses?

What item of clothing do you hate the most? I refuse to wear pantyhose in our heat! I wear a comfy summer dress but without stockings! Sandals, absolutely! Pedicure? Yes, please!

I will never stop wearing jeans and tees.

My mom was never, ever frumpy, nor my grandmother. They were very stylish. My godmother dressed beautifully too.
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Yikes, that definition of frumpy might as well include my photo. I am wearing sweat pants, tee, giant flannel shirt and my wavy waist-length hair is frizzy, but wrestled into a braid.

I exist in 2 colours: pasty or (sunburn) painful.

Oh, the glamour!

I’m recovering from a knee tweak, which is why I’m online so much today.
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Ana - I don't call that frumpy. You dress for a purpose!

daughters - they have their own ways. Mine started out wearing and making up front fashion stuff in her teens and then converted to jeans and t shirts, She's kind of in between now which I think it good.

Need and Ana - she shops thrift stores sometimes and makes some very good buys.

Send as you get older you have to work harder at lots of things. I will agree - you are not frumpy!
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Quote of the day: “Urban Dictionary definition of Frumpy: A female with lack of concern for appearance. Often characterized by sweatpants, frizzy hair, gramma panties and a pasty complexion.”

Ok, I guess if you have long, straight hair (not frizzy), no panties, and a tanned complexion, you are a surfer girl? Lol. (that's not me, BTW).

I might be "frumpy", under this definition, but no one is going to see or detect my gramma panties.

OK, I am not frumpy, but have to work harder on it these days. Buying new clothes this spring has helped.
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Yes! The funky one raids my closet for goth hangovers from my skinny days. She used to work at a 2nd hand shop. Pours through thrift shops. The glamour girl (the younger) heads heads straight to the mall. She likes to sparkle and can walk in stiletto heels. You recall correctly - I am an outdoorsy rural gal. But, unlike so many others I see, I draw the line at going out in pyjamas! (unless it’s midnight and you’re at the pharmacy/chemist)
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Ana,

Same here, one of my daughters is such a diva! The other one would just as soon shop at a thrift store or consignment shop.
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I have a shredded jeans daughter, and a more formal daughter, both teens. At prom, the former was funky punky vintage and the latter, 1940s Hollywood glamour.

I thoroughly enjoyed “Grace and Frankie” (Netflix) and, after years of shlepping off to work dressed like Grace, my kids say I have a Frankie wardrobe. Not as many flowy layers or beads but I love my flannel shirts, overalls, Converse sneakers, Doc Marten boots, cartoon, comic strip and music tees. Life is potentially short. So I’m dressing how I feel, not how others expect me to present myself.

i suspect I’d fit the definition of frumpy.
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cw - I have been wondering what you chose and how it went. I hope you had a good time anyway. It's disappointing when you buy something thinking it will fill a hole in your wardrobe and it ends up more like you want to fall into a hole in the ground when you put it on.

Yes, some people look good in a burlap sack - like Marilyn Monroe!!!

MD - I buy sales most of the time.
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Speaking of frumpy clothes - I wore the sexy little black dress for the wedding and from the pics I've seen I still ended up looking like a black-clad old crone. I guess I should just embrace it 🙄

Golden - some women can look good wearing a burlap sac 🤷🏻‍♀️
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Send - totally agree - no frumpy either!!

Lets analyze frumpy so we can avoid it,

What identifies frumpy?

Ill fitting, out of date, not suiting the wearer, drab (I will never be accused of that),

What else, folks?
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Barb,
Yes, Costco was where I found my pants! And a long sleeved gray blouse-wearing it to bed, so comfy.

Golden,
You are exactly right, we don't do shredded jeans. I don't even do faded.
Conservative here, so no one will actually be taking any fashion advice from me.

Just trying to avoid "frumpy" wear.
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🥰 today's words of wisdom...

"Life's as kind as
the people you fill it with."
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We don't do shredded jeans, send.

Never would, never will!

Dd wears very well fitting, don't mean tight but that they fit well, dark or medium wash.

I have just bought some summer pants with a ruched waistline. Hope they don't stretch out. When I bent over to clean the cats litter box the other day, my older pants fell off.

Totally agree with comfort, but that's a little too comfortable.
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