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3:30pm arrive boat yard. safe and sound. docks don't float. Have to climb up and down. Hehe.
Dinner? I dunno..... actually feel like some spagetti!
Rossella and Linda! are you guys ok? love you both and I hope that you will continue to find joy here. I have to admit that I was really saddened by it and upset but like Deef says: this too shall pass and there you go.
Maybe my cuz will get on with some smokin jokes and we will be laughing our tails off.
Man, someone would have a hard time finding this boat. We are tucked in up a river and down a creek and behind a shed.
I had some more comments to make on the subject, but I see that you have decided to change the subject and I accept it! I feel evil tonight because I have an abscess in my mouth and my cheek looks like Marlon Brando' Godfather. So maybe I feel a little bit like that "character" and I forget that in general in life I try to be a peacemaker. So shut up, Don Vito, don't say anything! Well I want to say just one thing, and then i promise I won't say anything anymore. if a person, let's call her "A" during a long period of her life gets along very well with B, C, D, E, F, G... and all over sudden a person "Z" arrives and says that B, C, D, E, F, G are sheep and nazi and ass-kissers, why "A" believes to "Z" and leaves the group where she was so well until 5 minutes before? It's just a question. I am feeding my mother with Ensure and she is already better. I wonder what do they put in that Ensure? Crushed bones?
I'm sucking on an orange. I can see all of us sitting around sucking on orange halves. Then Miz and Linda will smoke. Then Rossella will do a Marlon Brando impression and stuff the orange peel in her teeth and scare the sh!! out of whatever Cat is sprawled out at our feet.
nutz: just squirted the keyboard with orangejuice. not slowing me down tho.
Near the very beginning of this thread we talked about how we would spend time on the boat, what dinners to have, what we would do. I had wanted a nice boat for many decades and this group here just tipped it over. What we talked about we made happen. We dreamed it and we talked about it and now it's true. You will see names you recognize all there in the start up. Miz is coming to the boat. Others will come to the boat.
ok. All we ever have is this moment. For those of us who have held life in our hands and then watched it stop, so final, no more blue blue eyes of my mom, my dad... the singular gazes of all our animals...
With that in mind, why would we ever choose to not cherish this moment and choose to pack it with as much joy as we can get in as opposed to packing it with strife and pain?
Life sux enough. Jeeze. Get with the program. BOAT!!
Heck..I an no f'n sheep I'll tell you all that and the nasty ones...I ain't no one's sheep. I will be part of the ship's crew being pyrate and all, but I ain't no f'n sheep. So you can take your sheep reference and stuff that one. I don't follow no one....this was Bobbie's f'n post and thread...so if she replied to her own thread she started and other's have joined in as a spot for a little respite and folks don't get that..then they can FK themselves...and leave us all alone. Don't hop on the boat if you are just going to misinterpret everything. Folks are all different in the world and will sometimes make a mistake but to throw us all together and lump us into the same criteria is not my cup of tea..No way. Who cares who sent what to whom...mind your own biz...isn't there enought misery around the entire caregiving task to add more? Shit I have seen this same type of stuff come up in chat-rooms...same stuff....seen horrid fights...sometimes it's just better to be on the sidelines. That's why I don't join any social media..it's just an upgrade from chatrooms and I have seen plenty go on there...sometimes it's way better to be anonymous! I don't know the story of why some folks have left here already, cause I don't keep up with the posts everyday. Sad...let's get back to the SUBJECT AT HAND....caregiving and all it's nuances..and uplifting each other!
Rosselli.....lol..bones indeed...read the label..lol! If you go to their website it is very interesting.... did you know they even have recipe ideas for Ensure
Pyrate! CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP (this is the sound of my hands = it's an applause) Gosh, girl, I agree with you 100%. Bobbie! When my bro and I were kids, we always stuffed the orange peel in our teeth! We gave it, of course, the shape of teeth. My father in the meantime took the paper which wrapped the tangerines, he gave it the shape of a rocket, he put it on fire and I don't know why, it flew like a rocket! We liked to play with citrus in our family.
Bobbie, well mom has slowed down a lot since I first started the heaviest of the caregiving saga in August of 2009. But was a caregiver for mom after dad died this month 12 years ago, doing all the driving for shopping errands and such. She is quieter now. In the last month she does not do the vast phone calls of a million hello's. My answer machine has the last few. I hated those...and now kinda miss them, due to I know she is really slowing down. The hutspah is gone...the wind is slowly going out of the sails so to speak. Sad....I know I prayed for quiet..but now it is sad. I am going to tape those last few messages from her of hello's so later on I can reflect. I have a tape from the beginning of the hell my mom began for me 12 years...when her rages at me were loud and violent and rude...now the last ones...you can hear how she can barely speak loud at all. Big difference. I no longer get any phone calls from her. I don't know if she can see the phone numbers well anymore even though the number pads are about an inch. It's all part of the aging process the decline..so sad...really makes you think about your own demise later on. So with mom, we try to keep her clean, clean depends, clean clothes, clean bedding. Try to keep her feed and somewhat entertained..that is tough. She only likes the Food Network on...I try to keep her mind engaged... Oh and something funny last weekend I made her Hamburger Helper Double CheeseBurger flavor......and on Sunday I was making for b/f and I braised ribs. I heard my mom calling me on Sunday night...I thought crap...always in the middle of cooking....so turned off the flame and went into her bedroom. "What are you cooking...it's smells so good"...had to laugh that is all she wanted....I guess it was the mirpoux I had used to do the braising with (celery, carrots, onions, garlic - diced and then added 1 can of beef broth).
All I have to say on the subject is...... who is the sheep now? Guess what that will get me? So the col is clean and dry and nuttier than a fruitcake today. She has been talking death a lot yesterday and today......I wonder if she is trying to tell me something.....oh Lord I don't think I could deal with that well today.
Geez....I finally get to go to work today and I come home to see the "family" in an uproar. What the heck happened with Tennessee and Nance? I'm not sure just what sparked the fire on here, but I am very grateful to Bobbie for expressing what so many of where feeling, and creating what was to be a "safe haven" for us stressed-out caregivers. I am sorry that a few have chosen to misinterpret the relationships on this thread. I'll look for the famliy on Facebook later this evening. Gotta cook some dinner.
Yeah, Pirate, the orange peels are made for that (and also to cut them with your nails in 2000 pieces that you can spread all around the house!) Jam, my mother is declining very fast, too. She is more and more absent because she doesn't like and recognize the world she lives in. I know she could lose completely the joy of living, and let herself go very fast. On the other hand she could live in this kind of limbo for years. I guess we can't do anything else than help them in this stage of life, as well as we can. We are not God.
JAM what is a col ? i was wreckin my brain trying to figure out what that means , lol still cant figure it out . am home now whew , dr says sounds like brocoist but sort of pn too so she ordered a shot of antibodi and shot of steriod in the ass . ohh lala . he said owwww , poor guy . got a prscitp of more antibodi , then went to see another dr about his cancer formin on his arm , ah dr cut em 2 of it out on the same arm . i stood there watch it and closed my eyes then open one eye to see if i missed anything . lol amazin job he done . so now his arm is all bandadge up . ' he s in bed now , gave him all his meds so i figured better put him in bed now than later cuz he ll be more heavier . glad today is done and over with . so what will tmr bring me ? oh yes a sears guy is comin out tmr to look at the water softner , when daughter get s home from work tmr im going to go visit my sil she had a new knee replacement , was going yesterday but it was bad out and was going here in a lit bit i thought by the time i get there visitin hr be closed so am going tmr for sure . she sent me picture of her knee wow ! a mile long stiches . geeze . hopin she ll be happy with her new knee . ok gotta go ck on pa . xoxoxo
I just read what is going on on the thread & I am SO sorry, Bobbie!!! I guess it's a good thing that I read it after you asked us to get back to life so that kinda stopped me from responding & toasting some hateful people!!! You're a better person than I am! Bobbie, you've done nothing, but be nice & encouraging to old & new alike...smart & uninformed ...ok, stupid as well as uninformed...nice & mean...How in the world could they be so mean to you, I'll never understand!
Instead of lowering myself to others statis, I'd rather encourage you! I lead when the time & situation is right (I'm smart enough)...I follow when the path is right (I'm NOT dumb)...You have set an example in how you've handled this situation that I have learned from! I feel closer to this group of people than I do people I've know my whole life! I've made some friends that I hope will remain lifelong friends & I'm proud to consider you one of those friends! Here's to the core of this group in being actual TRUE friends...Here's to YOU, Bobbie, for bringing us all together & helping us learn that compassion that you examplify! Coudos, Captain!
My mom is getting more and more po'd here. I helped out with grandson to kind of give her a break AND so she can see where the stress is coming from...she is really getting an education now...
May I say that as just a reader of this site I think all of you are great caregivers and if and when I get sent down the road to ill health that I will have someone as caring and as loving as all of you are. cuzzin Bobbie got me reading this thread from the begginning and I have shared this site with my wife and others. I hope to continue to be able to share your venting, your jokes and most of all the boat. Not because it is Bobbies boat but because of the great memories of all of you have made dreams of have been aboard.
Cuz. I got my mom back home from the hospital Monday afternoon. She is very tired now but doing fine. Just spent 6 hrs in emergency with the mother in law. She has a bad infection in her left ankle similar to gout or colidis but drs have ruled that out. She has diabetes but they kept her over night to try to knock out the infection.
Sitting on the side of the highway waiting to catch speeding drivers, a Police Officer sees a car puttering along at 22 MPH. Says he to himself: "This driver is just as dangerous as a speeder!" So he turns on his lights and pulls the driver over. Approaching the car, he notices that there are five old ladies - two in the front seat and three in the back - wide eyed and white as ghosts.
The driver, obviously confused, says to him "Officer, I don't understand, I was doing exactly the speed limit! What seems to be the problem?"
"Ma'am," the officer replies, "you weren't speeding, but you should know that driving slower than the speed limit can also be a danger to other drivers."
"Slower than the speed limit? No sir, I was doing the speed limit exactly...Twenty-two miles an hour!" the old woman says a bit proudly.
The Police officer, trying to contain a chuckle explains to her that 22 is the highway number, not the speed limit.
A bit embarrassed, the woman grins and thanks the officer for pointing out her error.
"But before I let you go, Ma'am, I have to ask..Is everyone in this car OK? These women seem awfully shaken, and they haven't made a peep this whole time," the officer asks.
"Oh, they'll be all right in a minute officer. We just got off Highway 99."
An elderly gentleman went to the local drug store and asked the pharmacist for Viagra. The pharmacist said "That's no problem. How many do you want?"
The man answered, "Just a few, maybe 4, but cut each one in 4 pieces."
The pharmacist said, "That won't do you any good."
The elderly gentleman said, "That's alright. I don't need them for sex anymore as I am over 80 years old. I just want it to stick out far enough so I don't pee on my shoes."
An old man and women are going out for a meal to celebrate there 50th anniversary.The old man is getting ready but cant find his shoes so he looks under the bed and finds a box with 2 eggs in it and a thousand dollars so that evening he questions his wife about it at dinner. "Well.." she said "each time I was unfaithful to you I put an egg in the box" "And what about the thousand dollars?" asked the old man. "Well..." Replies the woman "Each time I got a dozen eggs I sold them"
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Ok, we should be back from din din by then. I might be a little late.... Wait for me?
lovbob
docks don't float. Have to climb up and down. Hehe.
Dinner? I dunno..... actually feel like some spagetti!
Rossella and Linda! are you guys ok?
love you both and I hope that you will continue to find joy here.
I have to admit that I was really saddened by it and upset but like Deef says: this too shall pass and there you go.
Maybe my cuz will get on with some smokin jokes and we will be laughing our tails off.
Man, someone would have a hard time finding this boat. We are tucked in up a river and down a creek and behind a shed.
lovbob
I feel evil tonight because I have an abscess in my mouth and my cheek looks like Marlon Brando' Godfather. So maybe I feel a little bit like that "character" and I forget that in general in life I try to be a peacemaker. So shut up, Don Vito, don't say anything! Well I want to say just one thing, and then i promise I won't say anything anymore. if a person, let's call her "A" during a long period of her life gets along very well with B, C, D, E, F, G... and all over sudden a person "Z" arrives and says that B, C, D, E, F, G are sheep and nazi and ass-kissers, why "A" believes to "Z" and leaves the group where she was so well until 5 minutes before? It's just a question.
I am feeding my mother with Ensure and she is already better. I wonder what do they put in that Ensure? Crushed bones?
nutz: just squirted the keyboard with orangejuice.
not slowing me down tho.
Near the very beginning of this thread we talked about how we would spend time on the boat, what dinners to have, what we would do.
I had wanted a nice boat for many decades and this group here just tipped it over.
What we talked about we made happen.
We dreamed it and we talked about it and now it's true.
You will see names you recognize all there in the start up.
Miz is coming to the boat.
Others will come to the boat.
ok.
All we ever have is this moment.
For those of us who have held life in our hands and then watched it stop, so final, no more blue blue eyes of my mom, my dad... the singular gazes of all our animals...
With that in mind, why would we ever choose to not cherish this moment and choose to pack it with as much joy as we can get in as opposed to packing it with strife and pain?
Life sux enough. Jeeze. Get with the program.
BOAT!!
Crushed bones. omg funny.
lovbob
I am a pyrate...ie therefore NOT A SHEEP!
Good to see you and how are things going?
Pirate, have you ever noticed all the scenes in the Godfather that had oranges in them?
lovbob
CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP
(this is the sound of my hands = it's an applause)
Gosh, girl, I agree with you 100%.
Bobbie! When my bro and I were kids, we always stuffed the orange peel in our teeth! We gave it, of course, the shape of teeth. My father in the meantime took the paper which wrapped the tangerines, he gave it the shape of a rocket, he put it on fire and I don't know why, it flew like a rocket!
We liked to play with citrus in our family.
Diane (Flex)
Jam, my mother is declining very fast, too. She is more and more absent because she doesn't like and recognize the world she lives in. I know she could lose completely the joy of living, and let herself go very fast. On the other hand she could live in this kind of limbo for years. I guess we can't do anything else than help them in this stage of life, as well as we can. We are not God.
am home now whew , dr says sounds like brocoist but sort of pn too so she ordered a shot of antibodi and shot of steriod in the ass . ohh lala . he said owwww , poor guy . got a prscitp of more antibodi ,
then went to see another dr about his cancer formin on his arm , ah dr cut em 2 of it out on the same arm . i stood there watch it and closed my eyes then open one eye to see if i missed anything . lol amazin job he done . so now his arm is all bandadge up . '
he s in bed now , gave him all his meds so i figured better put him in bed now than later cuz he ll be more heavier .
glad today is done and over with . so what will tmr bring me ?
oh yes a sears guy is comin out tmr to look at the water softner ,
when daughter get s home from work tmr im going to go visit my sil she had a new knee replacement , was going yesterday but it was bad out and was going here in a lit bit i thought by the time i get there visitin hr be closed so am going tmr for sure . she sent me picture of her knee wow ! a mile long stiches . geeze . hopin she ll be happy with her new knee .
ok gotta go ck on pa . xoxoxo
Instead of lowering myself to others statis, I'd rather encourage you! I lead when the time & situation is right (I'm smart enough)...I follow when the path is right (I'm NOT dumb)...You have set an example in how you've handled this situation that I have learned from! I feel closer to this group of people than I do people I've know my whole life! I've made some friends that I hope will remain lifelong friends & I'm proud to consider you one of those friends! Here's to the core of this group in being actual TRUE friends...Here's to YOU, Bobbie, for bringing us all together & helping us learn that compassion that you examplify! Coudos, Captain!
Cuz. I got my mom back home from the hospital Monday afternoon. She is very tired now but doing fine. Just spent 6 hrs in emergency with the mother in law. She has a bad infection in her left ankle similar to gout or colidis but drs have ruled that out. She has diabetes but they kept her over night to try to knock out the infection.
Love all you guys
Sitting on the side of the highway waiting to catch speeding drivers, a Police Officer sees a car puttering along at 22 MPH. Says he to himself: "This driver is just as dangerous as a speeder!" So he turns on his lights and pulls the driver over. Approaching the car, he notices that there are five old ladies - two in the front seat and three in the back - wide eyed and white as ghosts.
The driver, obviously confused, says to him "Officer, I don't understand, I was doing exactly the speed limit! What seems to be the problem?"
"Ma'am," the officer replies, "you weren't speeding, but you should know that driving slower than the speed limit can also be a danger to other drivers."
"Slower than the speed limit? No sir, I was doing the speed limit exactly...Twenty-two miles an hour!" the old woman says a bit proudly.
The Police officer, trying to contain a chuckle explains to her that 22 is the highway number, not the speed limit.
A bit embarrassed, the woman grins and thanks the officer for pointing out her error.
"But before I let you go, Ma'am, I have to ask..Is everyone in this car OK? These women seem awfully shaken, and they haven't made a peep this whole time," the officer asks.
"Oh, they'll be all right in a minute officer. We just got off Highway 99."
An elderly gentleman went to the local drug store and asked the pharmacist for Viagra. The pharmacist said "That's no problem. How many do you want?"
The man answered, "Just a few, maybe 4, but cut each one in 4 pieces."
The pharmacist said, "That won't do you any good."
The elderly gentleman said, "That's alright. I don't need them for sex anymore as I am over 80 years old. I just want it to stick out far enough so I don't pee on my shoes."
An old lady was knitting as she was driving down the highway.
A police officer drove alongside her car and yelled, "Pull over!"
The lady yelled back, "No - mittens!"
...your sweetie says, "Lets go upstairs and make love," and you answer, "Honey, I can't do both!"
...your friends compliment you on your new alligator shoes and you're barefoot.
...a sexy babe catches your fancy and your pacemaker opens the garage door nearest your car.
...going bra-less pulls all the wrinkles out of your face.
...when you are cautioned to slow down by the doctor instead of by the police.
..."getting a little action" means I don't need to take any fiber today.
..."getting lucky" means you find your car in the parking lot.
... an "all nighter" means not getting up to pee!