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Crew.....In sky defense, I think all she was saying was early assessment will give us a clue what is going on when their behavior changes. She did not say we were doing anything wrong, just adding her experiance.

Sky.... we are a sensitive bunch, we are exhausted from the day to day stresses and the on going , never get a break stuff that makes us crazy, cranky, and we do have a tendency to have knee jerk reactions when professionals come on here and give suggestions. We are in the trenches with our charges and resent others who have not done this work year after year. the real hands on, cleaning poop from the floor to the ceiling, answering the same questions over and over.putting up with abusive elders,( I set here with a broken Knee from my late stage alz) And so many have given up their lives, friends, social outlets, and have no help from selfish stupid siblings.
I feel your intentions were good, but just wish you had read a lot of posts before putting your credentials out there first. Most have had their elder assessed. Doesn't change anything except we know what the problem is. Each elder is different, some meds work, some don't. Some redirection works, most of the time it doesn't. We are a tired, frustrated bunch that love each other and do not take kindly to someone telling us what most of us already know. I hope you return to this sight because you will get to see the aftermath of the assessment. It may help you to help those families you work with. And please recommend this sight to the families. They will get love, support, laughter, hugs, and a sense of belonging they will get no where else. Thanks for your post, it has given me an opportunity to give back to this loving group who has given so much to me.....
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still red. damn.

Ya, every once in awhile we get someone who makes a goofy statement and poor ol skydiver really thought she was on to something. I hate to react like I did, but I am who I am and I don't really want to stop the discourse but jeeze. i would prefer skydiver to join in and take with her the benefit of real time caregiving instead of being a one timer but my penchant for a smackdown usually quells that. One of my many faults.
And now you know another reason OBMAJ came into being.
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Morning All,
ASG: I would go to the DA immediately, before the knots go down, and take the film crew. I would contact the high school unless the kid is a drop out, and file a report asap.
Skydiver: Hello? Are you there?To whom are you referring? Around here, you don't ring the doorbell and RUN. A hole.
SSK: you are getting very feisty, and I like it, I like it.
Rosella: I'm sorry my vent was not worth the energy I spent typing it on my laptop, and the energy you had to spend reading it. Next time, ignore my posts. I have heard more whining about less, and no one criticizes them, they just jump right in with it. Sorry I don't fit in. Sorry I'm not in Libya.
I don't feel like saying anything else now. That comment really pissed me off.
Everyone --have a great day.
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Christina, when I said "we are not in Lybia" I was not talking to you in particular. I was talking to everyone of us. I was talking to myself, too! I am sorry. I did not want to criticize you for venting! I vent all the time! I am very depressed about my mother lately, so I have to say to "myself" that I could be in worst conditions, for example with bombs on my head, or with a nuclear danger over me... I know it does not help a lot.
Skydiver, I took my mother to a psychiatrist. He said "She has dementia. Those are the pills that I can suggest. Good luck!"
And that was all. I am sorry to say so, it is a terrible thing to say, but my mother has not enough "mind" upon which you can work! If she is depressed, she is depressed because she lives in a world that she does not recognize, and no psychiatrist can give her back her parents, her childhood, her health...
I'm seriously thinking to give her pot to make her happier.

Jam, maybe next time you could bring your COL to a restaurant where nobody cares if she gets dirty. There are places like this! Otherwise, every now and then leave her with someone and go have a nice lunch with your husband! I know what you mean about the doctors. When my father died, my uncle who is a doctor continued to say "It's my fault, it's my fault". It was not his fault at all, but they (the doctors) get crazy when they cannot solve problems...
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Christina, I read back through the comments trying to see where Rossella said your vent was not worth the energy and I can't find it.
C'mon, Christina, you are beat up and exhausted and we all love you and you fit in fine. no worries.
I think rossella was just trying to be a motivator like when we all reach out to each other when the times are tough and say stuff like, Hey! you can do this! Hang in! At least we don't have a humpback!!! with hair growing on it! Yet!!!

She was saying Resist!! Resist the Hump!!

We all need help to resist the black hole and steep cliff and you guys have pulled me away from the edge many times and I am grateful. Christina, you are in that number of yank Bob off the cliff helpers so... hey girl..... breathe and breathe deep and know that we are all here and not going anywhere so when you get near the edge we're all going to holler and yell and tell you.... We love you, all is ok here and you hang on for dear life just like each one of us has hung on to the others when we had to.

RESIST THE HUMP!! or if you do get one, at least go down to Supercuts and get them to shave it......

Hey are you out of See's Candy?
C'mon, lemme see that sweet kitty on here.... c'mon now...
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oh hell i say we all need one mean ole margaritta ! double shots of tequila ! then we can shout whatever we wanna over the moon . wooo
rossella i think we all need pot and we can be happy and run thru the fields of daiseys oh my doesnt that sound good ! come on you all !!! or we can go visit sky and have her give us mind game suh ? think i rather stick with margaritta and pot and fields full of daiseys .
ladeeda - sky is professional and it is her job to tell everybody that they need to go see a psyschiatist . its her job ! if my job was to clean a oven u bet i be cleanin my oven at home . so her job is to tell everybody that we need to see her . i cked her profile , shes brand new and has not put 2 cents worth it and thats why i told her obmaj .. now if she had said im carin for whom ever and i would see her point of view but theres nothing there , so she can just put her degree in a office some where eles . not on this thread . yes christina i agree with you , she ran into the fox hole . while we re trying to stay out of a blackhole .
ok where is that maragritta and pot at ? xoxo
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Bobbie, I don't have a humpback, but with the old age approaching I have a lot of strange things happening to my body, beyond the wrinkles, which haunt me. For example, the nails of my feet have taken the shape of a ring! It's difficult to cut them. I have one tooth which wants to fall....
This is gross!
Christina, I am glad you told me you were hurt by my post. We have to talk, talk, talk, about what distresses us. So, we can solve problems. Bobbie was right, mine was just a motivational speech... a pep talk? Well it was not a very good pep talk!
Are you still sorry? Please don't!
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hey SeeMe ~
(or Rider ? )
Those clueless ones appear a couple times a month, kind of like a curse. Usually in clusters.
Dumbfounding, huh? Just read a few comments like Pamela's first post after Bobbie introduced the topic! Then a couple more ...
Maybe some recent posts?
Then get with the program or take your sappy fluff elsewhere.

I love it when they add titles to their identity. Makes you fear ever hiring one.

Amber Jane did make a defensive visit a couple months after her first attempt at enlightening us. You could hear the gasps around the world as we all read her defense. Girl has guts - I

Mind you - we are all fools here, Rider ~
a Ship of Fools battling these rough seas, often without anyone other than the select people here who can relate with the same compassion to us that they feel for their loved one who's lives are failing.

Cheers, Mate!
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Linda, it seems I can legally grow ONE plant of marijuana. I have the garden. I have to take more information; if they say one plant is okay, one plant we shall have!
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am not in a very good mood today .
got email from sis whichi hardly hear from much anymore . as few of u know that she has early stage of alz . she will be 67 yrs old in a few mos .
she is getting worst . shes all upset wondering whos going to take care of her if her boyfriend dies before her . its breakin my heart , hubby said no we are going to enjoy our time together , come n go anytime we want to , than be stuck at home . dad is enuff but know he wont be around forever . well its killin me .....
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Hey Rossella!
sorry you're so depressed and ya, I diagnosed my mom and got the Namenda after learning about it ONLINE and then took her through a battery of tests from the Alzheimer's/Dementia Department of a highly respected teaching hospital in Philadelphia.

Dementia reveals itself without a lot of input from anybody and by the time we as family caregivers have to intervene, the doctors and nurses at our parents primary care offices have already missed the boat. That was my experience and it has been shared with me that I am far from alone on this.

It is possible that with more awareness it will change in the future but don't count on it.

To diagnose Dementia (or DementiaS, as we know: all different kinds) way early on you make the naive suggestion that the 'patient' will allow it. har har. aren't we cute.

Also, the 'pros' think that dementia shows up and happens over a course of a few years. That thinking is beginning to change, but a full 6 years ago I got into an argument with a Piled Higher and Deeper (PhD, at that same highly respected teaching hospital) and told him to wait and future research will prove that this disease is presenting way earlier than you people think. The patient is a master of masking and all of their energy goes into the playing off of the symptoms so they can maintain their status quo.
As 'pros' they couldn't know that now could they? They can only work with what is in front of them and they ignore the family input at the peril of dementia research and the laughable 'early intervention'.

There is no early intervention.
By the time the 'pros' catch up with this shit it is game on.
Next.
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rossella . u shall grow one plant then . it is the best meds ever ! relaxin , happy , feeling calm , i think they should legalize that here . but nope . get caught with one its long time in prison . damn it !
not worth it for me . i rather be at home than prison :-(
ok margaritta double shots plz .
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OK pals.....Got a little jumpy there. Sky was just too close after my sis's non-helping visit. She called to say she was in W.Va. heading home...laugh..laugh..laugh...Interrupted me while I was picking poop off the bathroom floor trying to get mom to wash her butt if she won't take a GD shower.

I'm OK now.......(music is heard by all)
Gotta find out the laws here in NC. Started a garden in my sunroom.......maybe 2 plants????
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There's been a rash of robberies at some of the medical marijuana establishments here - kind of scary.
Then there is a sweet older lady who grows it for patients in her West Seattle home.

I'll try to find the article.
I don't dare share the story of how my tiny, arthritic, demented grandmother had her roof repaired after a neighbor helped weed her giant tomato plants ...
trading talent is good.

Her home never fell into disrepair.
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DISCLAIMER: Any comments I may make here ARE NOT directed at any one person unless you are a complete nimrod without a clue as to "what it is".

I understand what skydiver was trying to convey.....but come on, we deal with the physical aspect of the aging process, which causes the mental lapses....not the other way around..... IT CAN'T BE FIXED WITH A BOTTLE OF PILLS..sometimes those just make it worse, which most of us have found out the hard way.......Yes, the dementia originates from the brain, but it can't be tagged with another name and our loved one cannot sit in a chair across from someone who delves into their life to find out all the little idiosyncrasies......wait a minute while mom pulls some poop out of her pants, then we will talk about life's issues.....they cannot be medicated to control their behavior and walk out and lead a functional life. A little over a year ago when we had the col taken to the hospital because she was out of control the treating psychiatrist put her on an anti-psychotic drug............SHE WAS DRUNK, YOU HALF-WIT! Did you talk to us one single time that whole week to find out what was really going on? No, hospital rules say the family can't see her...so much for being the Director of ER, doesn't get you extra privileges. Look at her BA level and maybe you might have had a clue....duh.
We are dealing with the dying of the brain cells and no psychiatrist is going to be able to fix that with conversation or a pill. As bobbie says....."it is what it is".....and it is not going to change until "they" come up with a way to take those dead brain cells and rejuvenate them into living cells........won't be in my lifetime...so as for me and mine we will continue to see our medical doctor and let him deal with the problems as they arise.

Love and Peace to all of you today,
Jam
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And there you go.
Ya, Jam. nailed it.
love,
Captain Nimrod.
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Speaking of Professionals, at the ER they told me NOT to go to my personal MD, that I needed to see an Orthopedic surgeon. I said no, they said you will have trouble with this knee if not. I said I am 60 years old, I will have trouble with it with or with out surgery.
We may live in a rural Tx. community but my MD has all she needs to xray my knee, to give me further instructions on healing, possible PT, and meds if I need them... Having alphabet soup behind your name does not always mean you know what is best for the individual. They kept going to one Dr. on the referal list. hmmmm, I was not born yesterday.... hope I didn't piss anyone off by "defending" Sky, it was not a real defense , just saying she had the right to THINK she was helping. I doubt we hear from her again. But I do wish she would take my suggestion and refer families to this sight. Maybe she didn't read that far!!!!!
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Captain Nimrod.....that's a hoot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Green please...:)
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ladeeda!
i had a knee injury when I was in my early 30's and was told the same thing! Well, I went to the ortho surgeon on crutches and when he outlined the surgery it sounded horrible so I gave it a pass.
Well, you would have thought that I crapped his wheaties! He literally followed me out of the office and in a raised voice hollered at me that I would always walk with a limp, that i would never be able to move properly, etc etc.
I crutched outta there and saw a lady that specialized in what was then called 'bodywork' (still called that? I dunno) and she showed me how to heal my knee and it worked!
i totally hear you with the skydiver and I know she really wanted to help and that's what I would Love to see, is the 'pros' directing folks to this site so more can benefit from the help available here.

Linda has a huge point when she says: it's her JOB to direct folks to that end of the business.

By the way, I have a lot of experience being a Jackass and you don't see me bragging about it......

ps: I love that alphabet soup line.
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Jackasses Bray ~
I'm proud to be associated with this particular one.

Bray on!!!
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Chester on the old Gunsmoke show had a limp and everyone loved him.
I think Gary Busey would find a limp sexy, so what is the big deal. They said nothing about all the wrinkles on my face, well duh. That may cause others to injure themselves and then they would have a limp.
Just sounds like much ado about nothing.. Who sings the song "MONEYMONEY MONEEEY"
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abba
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whoops.... O'Jays
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Ya, O'Jays for sure. Apprentice theme song.

Pink Floyd has a good money song.
it's in 7/8 time I do believe and can get the toe tappers all confused....
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I think gary busey would find a wooden leg sexier.....
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Every once in a while we get a tempest in the teapot and we deal with I sure am glad you guys areon my side-I had some dozy's come to my house one reported me to a social worker because my house was messy-he came out and said it looked better than before-end of discussion -I told a casework who said she was a social worker I had to unlock the door after I turned off my hose and she yelledYOU LOCKED HIM IN THE HOUSE I laughed at her how can you lock someone IN a house-I have had so many professionals treat me like shit when taking care of my husband. Take care friends.
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bobbie, I am still laughin out loud... It is probably in my best interest to not give too much thought to what my future ex-husband is really into. !!!
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Nice wooden leg made of the finest Poplar with red toenails....
Hey Maxine!! whassup!!
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OK. I'm back from the Landscape walk through for my Association. One of my other jobs, I used to be the President
( LOL, huh, Bobbie?), but had to step down when I brought my Mother here. For three months I thought I was having a nervous breakdown, then realized I could not be/do everything, so I demoted myself to Landscape Committee. You can drool and do that, no problem.
Rosella, I apologize for flipping out and then calling you out. I think I take things too literally sometimes. Of course, I have even used the Libyan comparison myself with someone the past month--even the "I felt bad because I had no shoes until I saw a man with no feet". That's a good one, too. However, when one is already feeling weak and susceptible, and I'm on a VENT SITE, well--where the hell am I supposed to go?
Additionally, for 30 some years I have been over-sensitized by magnetic and plate movement in the earth. I am in between earthquakes. I hope you are all getting a good laugh from this, and I know you're smiling, but I am not bs ing you. I sense the activity several days before it occurs. When I was younger, I thought I was having PMS, then I would feel better right after an earthquake. I cannot predict where they will be, or the magnitude, but it is just another aspect of my lifelong over-sensitivity. I wish I could do some good with it, but I'm kinda busy with other things.
I want to go to the MoTed on the BOAT, and have Margaritas with Lindaheart, Ladeeda, and anyone else who can put up with me. Maybe skydiver could help me?
Going to run errands now and have another cup of coffee--at noon-- which I hardly ever do. I have a headache and I'm tired of feeling this way. I truly LOVE every one of you. Hugs, c
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I was writing this when you all were goofing around, sorry to interject serious stuff.
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