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I am trying, I really am. And, I do love my mother. I pray for tolerance and patience. I took care of her in her house before she came here. I was the only family member who went there (except my sons on a rare occasion) when I could not. I paid her bills, brought her groceries (72 mile drive after working all day), took her to the Dr. etc. The Dr's say she cannot learn anything new. So, when I corrected some of this unacceptable behavior in the beginning, I thought the Dr's were wrong, but if I don't keep constantly reminding her, she slips back. My rationale for expending all this energy is that I am trying to change what I cannot endure/live with--in order that I don't give up and put her in an institution. And, I tell her that....sometimes she gets it but after a year now, I have learned I am spinning my wheels and I have to just accept some of this. "That is the hard part!"

PS: I never saw any of this when I visited her in her house those 4 years--that's why I am still in shock even after one year.
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Have you read any of the previous posts? You can wish til the cows come home, but that doesn't change reality. Find a way to preserve your sanity and seriously consider placing your mom.
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I wish my Mom was healthy and could move back in her home! I wish my wife was happy with her job! I wish my sons would quite arguing all the time. I wish management used common sense at my job. I wish my hair would grow back! What's that?? Mooooo, Mooooo, Moooo. Damn Cows! Couldn't you have stayed gone longer? The whole freakin herd just showed up!

Love ya cattails....
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Ok newbies, here is the explanation of OBMAJ. It stands for Oh bite me Amber Jane! That was Bobbie's reply to a well meaning individual that was scolding us for not being better caregivers. 9 out of 10 times the comments are from individuals that have not been caregiving for long, or in one case someone who owned a facility. Little do these folks realize we have been in the trenches a long time and are so far past the "niceties" (sp) of caregiving. If said it before and I will say if again "CARING FOR AN ELDER IS NOTHING LIKE TAKING CARE OF A CHILD"!!!!!!! I don't have to tell you guys that. In fact, the OBMAJ became such a regular comment on this thread Peaches had some t-shirts made up with the OBMAJ. Of course no one but us knew what it stood for. If any of the oldies have more info on the OBMAJ, fill in anything I may have forgotten.

Have a good night oldies and newbies!

Love ya,
Diane
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And I'd like to be 35 pounds lighter by May 11, because then I'm flying to see my Granddaughter who I've not been able to see since 2008 because of taking care of my parents. This girl is like my own daughter and I am her mom/grandma. She is all we could hope for in a child. Responsible, hard working, going to college, working full time. Never whining about poor me, just a step up to the plate kid who gets the job done. The only thing she wants from me is to meet the guy she is going to marry before the wedding in August. This flight in May was her birthday gift to me. I am honored to be loved by her and I know she feels the same about me. Still, I am fretting about my dad and trying to make arrangements for his to have respite care so my husband will not have to be on call night and day while I'm gone. My husband also works, so he has obligations to keep us all afloat financially.

ELM: There's been a lot said on this thread over the past 4 days or so. Please go back and read those posts. They come from people who have given years to the care of their parents and are reaching the end of their rope. What they are saying is what you need to hear. I hope you can understand that the honesty in these posts is the most honest information you will ever get. Beyond that, we can't really offer much more.

Best wishes to you and try to do what is best for you and your mom. I doubt you can keep her home and accomplish her best care as well as yours. Good luck.
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Igore. love you too. How is your co-worker doing?
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Mary & Kathy so good to see you pop in for a bit. It's nice to have new faces on the crew, but I miss the oldies too. Regardless of where we are on this journey, its all familiar. Kuli, I've missed you too. I know you are beside yourself with grief still, but check in with us. Kuli, what was something your dad always encouraged you to do when you were caring for him, but didn't have enough time or energy? Maybe that could be a starting point to your new normal with dad's blessing. I know you and Linda are both trying to figure out where to find your place again. Maybe both of you should take a BOAT break.

Well dear ones I have to get to bed. Mom has already rung once for the evening.

Love ya,
Diane
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Hi Diane: Thanks for the explanation. I can only imagine the reaction of the :Oh bite me Amber Jane" and I am seriously sorry I wasn't around when it was said. You guys are the bomb.

Being on this thread has been the best and the past few days have been very healthy for me. I so appreciate the honesty that has been shared here, you know, "Tell it like it truly is." Glad to know that I can be myself and embrace my lack of enthusiasm for this ongoing job. I do what I must do and I do it well, but I don't like being a prisoner to it. Something has to shift. I want my life back.
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I tried to take care of both of my inlaws. their daughter ran and moved away to GA. Their son, my husband had a nervous breakdown adding to the mix and then I fell and fractured my spine. I was pretty much forced to put them in two different care facilities. my mother in law hates me, my father in law has never been happier.
I simply cannot care for them recovering froma spinal fracture myself. My husband takes up ALL of my time with his nervous breakdown. We are slowly losing all our money because of this hideous situation. I am so nervous myself he is driving me nuts.
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Hi everyone, meeting with the lawyer went fine yesterday. Still more papers to find and copy. But I'm almost done with the Medicaid filing so that's good. Haven't signed the lease yet. Told my mother she needed to get the other two sibs on board or I'm not signing it. But I probably will anyway. And I think Cattails is exactly right. Even if my Mom did go stay with my brother for a month or two, I'm still carrying all the weight. Plus, on top of it, she comes right out and says "I don't want to go there! Why do I have to go there?" And I tell her because she is killing me and ruining my life. And she doesn't get it. She only thinks of herself. Everything you've all said is true. I just don't seem to affect the change. I've stayed away from my narcissistic, dysfunctional sister for the last few years and now I think I need to stay away from Mom, until she is sick enough and then put her in a home. The only thing I can think of is to hire a companion, someone to drive her around and visit with her. I'll still help her manage the bills (Dad used to but now he's in a NH), and take her to church on Sunday but that's it. What do you guys think of that? Please chirp in!!

Luv the OBMAJ story!!!! Thanks for the laugh!
luv to all. - SS
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heidi hope ur spine heals up soon and get back of swingin of things .
what you did is what i would have done . takin care of 2 in laws oh my gosh !
u said ur hubby is driving you nuts ? maybe u shall run away and be gone all day . maybe hubby will realize that he cant live with out you .
it ll get better sooner as time heals . well i hope .
in my case it seems like it never got better .

ingore - u had me crackin up a big smile ! it is what it is woo hoo .

rip !! lalala u forgot to say yep obmaj ! heehee

oh gosh made coffee and havent had a ciggy ! i best go get one in me .
love you all . meanwhile - hug ur horsey for me . xoxoxo
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I am so sorry with all your problems-I had a husband with memtal illness and also fx. my spine and finally had the cement put in which was a mistake it would have been better to let it heal by itself. Please come back here as often as you need to-we get it.
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SS you have to do what is needed for you to do as your heart tells you -you plan to get her a companion might be the best for now and try -no DO detach yourself from her for most of the time let the other members of the family get off the pot and help.
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ok i lied too .... i never did go in pa s room . :-( kuli maybe flex is right we shall go on the boat . bobbie will feed us enuff coffee and then we be ready to clean out pa s room ? ya think ??
i ended up doing laundry and puttin away laundry then went outside and sat . what the hell !
deefer !! sorry ur mom has grew enuff arms to be grabbing things more and more . geeze , pretty soon she ll arm wrestle you ! guess her arm is stronger than ever . tell her to becareful it ll break again !
today looks gloomy out , i dont know if its suppose to rain or what ? haventrealy sat down to watch the news , when it comes on i dont know where my eyes went .
i need to send off thankyou card , for the flowers etc . havent done that yet either , my sis in law said she never sent hers out when her brother passed away . mmm my mom would come down and scold me if i didnt cuz it is a thing to do . respect back and thank you for the flowers even tho i dont know where it went .
familes i havent seen f orever were grabing what flowers they wanted . didnt get the card out of the flowers so i dont know what to do . guess they wont get any card lol .
gas has gone up to 4.15 here lastnight ., damn i need a bike to peddle around and ride myself to small store to get ciggy , i dont have a bike ! waaaaaaaaa . my kids has bikes here when they were little . to small for me . lol , see me ride it to town , bet i be the laughin stock there . prob end up havin a flat tire cuz the tires are old and rotten . oh hell with it ! ill just walk !!!

cattail- u have a good time with ur baby girl . i wishing u a wonderful time . i love havin happiness around me . enjoy the trip dear . xoxo

you all have a happy weds ,,,, xoxo
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Good Morning, SS You sound like you are wavering in your decision not to resign that lease. Please hold firm to your decision, you deserve to look out for yourself. No one else in your family is thinking of your well being so you must hold your ground and be firm in your resolve to change your life for the better. You know nothing will change if it is left up to others, be strong! Get your life back. Make your decision and follow it through. Get your focus on YOU and all the rest will play out. I am here to support you.

Linda... here's an idea.. why not write up a one page newsletter in honor of your Pa with pictures of him and in it put a thank you to everyone who sent flowers? If you like the idea and need help putting it together I will help you.

Well I thought OBMAJ meant "oh bite my ass Jeez" LOL

Cricketღ
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OK, I wrote a longer post with yet another answer and argument for placement but decided to pull it at the last minute.

SS, drop her off at your brother's. Doesn't matter she doesn't want to go. Whether you live or die is not up to your mom. It is NOT OK for the demented and elderly to hurt our health and kill us.

ok, there's the synopsis...

love you guys way more than you'll ever know. Even the ones who don't get it yet.

lovbob
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So, who doesn't get it? WhooHoo! Nice to see the old girls, and new posters, welcome.
Hey, what ever happened to those t-shirts? OBMAJ, with the lips and fangs showing, glow in the dark artwork? That would have been a nice thing to wear when getting up with elders at 1 in the morning--and at 3, 4:30, 5, and then we're up for the live-long fricking day. I remember those days, and I don't miss them one bit. Decisions to place are made by one's own volition, and some have more guilt to deal with, less money, a stronger heart or stomach, whatever. It seems to be one of those lessons for our age group that determines the last third of our lives. I never thought that caring for an elder parent would be more consuming than other life challenges. Once you have been a caregiver, you can do anything and not be afraid. It's good experience if you don't let it kill you, right, Bobbie? Kind of like Russian Roulette. Just one more trip to the bathroom, then we're done.
Good luck, Selfish Siblings, in straightening out your situation. To resume a normal life is like a vacation. Caregiving for self-centered people really makes one appreciate the loving, thoughtful people in life. Look forward to enjoying your life again, dear girl.
Hope you newbies in the trenches learn from these situations. Take care of yourselves.
Hugs, Christina xo
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elnmrp ~ Re: correcting unacceptable behavior; learned I'm spinning my wheels; acceptance. One of our caregiver buddies said our loved ones get into a groove of running the hamster wheel with their repetitive behaviors. We do too. I remember spinning my wheels trying to bring my husband back to the real world. It took a while to realize that that world no longer exists for him; therefore it doesn't exist for me relative to him. Acceptance. Why is it so hard? Why is it so painful? Why?
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Shelia, thanks for sharing the story it was awesome and educational. You are soooooooo right about creating positive fun experience for both the person with AZ and the caretaker.
Today, the mnl water the flower pots where I had showed her where 'we' planted seeds together and now they are coming up. Now, we will have to just wait and see what kind of flowers 'we' had planted, ; )

I am really into this book called, "The 36 Hour Day," and it has no pictures. One of the parts in the book mention that, "If you are at the end of your rope, single out one thing that you can change to make life easier, and work on that. Sometimes changing small things make a big difference." I have notice this part to help ease the tension for 'both' of us in 'our' house.
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I found that most helpful changing just one thing for my good was the most helpful and made me feel much stronger just avoiding his calls from rehab gave my spirit a good boost and made me in charge of one small thing helped so much.
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Sorry no jokes tonight but thought ya might enjoy this one.
luvCuz

A Dreamer and A Chicken Plucker

Let me tell you, Jesse hated this job. And you would too, I imagine, if you had to do it.
Jesse was a Chicken Plucker. That's right. A Chicken Plucker! He stood on a line in a chicken factory and spent his days pulling the feathers off dead chickens so the rest of us wouldn't have to. It wasn't much of a job. But at the time, Jesse didn't think he was much of a person.

His father was a brute of a man. His dad was actually thought to be mentally ill and treated Jesse rough all of his life. Jesse's older brother wasn't much better. He was always picking on Jesse and beating him up. Yes, Jesse grew up in a very rough home in West Virginia .

Life was anything but easy. And he thought life didn't hold much hope for him.
That's why he was standing in this chicken line, doing a job that darn few people wanted.
In addition to all the rough treatment at home, it seems that Jesse was always sick.
Sometimes it was real physical illness, but way too often it was all in his head.
He was a small child, skinny and meek. That sure didn't help the situation any.
When he started to school, he was the object of every bully on the playground.
He was a hypochondriac of the first order.

For Jesse, tomorrow was not always something to be looked forward to. But, he had dreams. He wanted to be a ventriloquist. He found books on ventriloquism. He practiced with sock puppets and saved his hard earned dollars until he could get a real ventriloquist dummy.

When he got old enough, he joined the U.S. Army. And even though many of his hypochondriac symptoms persisted, the Army did recognize his talents and put him in the Entertainment Corp.

He served from 1943 to 1946. During the enlistment, his world changed. He gained confidence. He found that he had a talent for making people laugh, and laugh so hard they often had tears in their eyes. Yes, little Jesse had found himself.

You know, folks, the history books are full of people who overcame a handicap to go on and make a success of themselves, but Jesse is one of the few I know of who didn't overcome it. Instead he used his paranoia to make a million dollars, and become one of the best-loved characters of all time in doing it!

Yes, that little paranoid hypochondriac, who transferred his nervousness into a successful career, still holds the record for the most Emmies given in a single category.

This wonderful, gifted, talented, and nervous comedian brought us Barney Fife.

He was:
Jesse Donald "Don" Knotts
July 21, 1924 - Feb. 23, 2006
NOW YOU KNOW, "THE REST OF THE STORY"
See, not all e-mails are junk!
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oh cuzz thank you for sendin this , aww i had no idea ! i love don knotts !!
yep he sure made me laugh , in fact dad loved him , everybody love that guy , shame on his father .
aww thanks cuz :-)
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Thanks cuz, for sending the uplifting post. made me feel better.
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Here I made a funny on another post: In the gauging of terrible circumstances in life: "You will know how terrible they are by/in direct correlation to how much distance the rest of your family puts between you and the reality of your life...

pahahahaha

she is asking is it wrong to wish someone would just die...I just hauled my moms clothes upstairs and fed my dog avoiding fart pants at all angles sure not to bend over in front of him or show my chest, so I layer and or throw on an apron. I move quietly and hope to GOD he doesn't' insist on trying his sicko.
"Good Mornin' Jenny!" leer leer
No, by my standards it is A O.K. to wish someone would drop dead. Just as long as you don't help them along...
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oh dear jsomebody ... wrap ur blanket over u and wear ur scariest wolf mask on and maybe he ll freakout . hope u do have halloween mask , i have a wolf and witch . wanna borrow it ?
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Thank you for making me laugh, yes its gross. I remember years ago watching an elder with Alzeimers. We were in the kitchen and i was fixing her lunch while I thought (lol) she was sitting at the table waiting patiently. Only when I turned to put the plate on the table she was on the floor drinking out of the dogs bowls of food and water. OMG!!! I didn't know what to do so when I called her name, she must have known she had done something wrong - I don't know - but then she took off running out the door. I had no experience with the disease - I took off running too after this 90 year old woman who when I reached her was ready to go and I could hardly breathe. OMG!!
Try to laugh and laugh some more - a toothbrush to comb her hair !!!!!
Its not funny but the things Alzeimers and dementia patients are capable of is truly amazing to me.
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Hey Jen: Maybe you are using the wrong tactics. Continue to walk quietly, but once you have managed to sneak up behind him, do something to scare the living crap out of him. Maybe the wolf head would help. Think about it, you could make him a nervous wreck. How's his heart? After a few good scares, he might not be thinking so much of leering. Pahahahahaha!!!!!

Prophet, that's a funny story; 90 year old must have picked up dog DNA. Oh well, at least she wasn't running on all fours, you would have never caught up to her.

Some of these old, mean, dementia folks can do the most amazing things. I can't recall the post exactly, but some one was talking about getting their ass kicked by an 83 year old. It's hard not get a mental picture of this that makes you laugh. Pahahahahah.

Ok, back to the real world. Love, Cattails.
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Computers. The age we are in they do some much. My Mom used computers for years while working for the state government.

Thought I would get her one and get her using the internet,email, etc.

Thankfully, I bought a used one at a good price. Mom uses it a lot....but just for two things.

1) Playing solitare.
2) Check obituaries.

Thats it. I have tried to introduce to her other things but those two functions are all she uses. Still for the amount she does use the device, I don't care if it is a computer or a $250.00 Solitare-obituary checking machine.


Word on my coworker who was injured on Monday. Surgery to stop bleeding in the head and remove bone fragments off of brain tissue was successful. He is in an induced coma for now. The outlook is way better today than it was Monday. Keep the prayers coming.

Igore
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It is good she is at least using the computer maybe you could ask her if she wants to learn how to maybe email or something my husband would not even try the computer-it would have enriched his life so much to use it that is why we got one in the first place-now I enjoy it so much.
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Cuz, I loved that story!! xoxo! Prophet, your story was priceless!

Dear Jen, aside from your growing a dick and telling fartpants to bend over and be your bitch I don't think anything you do will scare him, unfortunately! LOL Hang on Girl!!

Well I took Dad to see the Doctor today because he told me he was having weird tingling all over his head for about a week (then he tells me) and considering he has had disc replacement surgery in his cervical spine I figured we should go in just in case it could be additional surgical thing needed.. After we get there and discuss everything with his doctor (female doc) and she steps out he gets all pissy at me because she left and he said he wanted me to go out of the room so he could talk to her about something..I asked him about what? And he says sex.. OMG I am thinking and I told him you did that the last time we were here and she told you not to worry about it unless you get into a relationship.. then I asked him has anything changed? He says no then gets even more pissed at me. I felt like saying should I leave the room so you can show the doc your penis? Which is exactly what has happened with any female doc he's had.. WTF is wrong with the man.. I am thinking maybe I should make an appointment with a sex therapist for him and tell him it is a female doc and then take him and he will be seeing a male doc, hahaha I'd like to see the look on his face when he realizes he has to talk to the male doctor about sex or whatever..priceless.

Okay Evil Cricket had to be let out for a few there. I sure feel better.
Love you all and hope your well and at peace tonight.
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