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Blood thinner is fairly routine for the elderly while in the hospital and rehab these days to prevent blood clots due to not moving around a lot ( sitting most of the day ).

On top of that your husband has been on steroids recently , increasing the chance of blood clots . Any clots especially if they break off and travel to the lung, heart , or brain ( causing strokes ) are extremely dangerous and can be deadly .

Why is he refusing blood thinner ?
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Alva, or anyone One more question, he is refusing blood thinners. What's any options on that? I mean opinions?
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Thanks, everyone, he had a temp last night of just 100, but nothing now. they really can't identify a reason. Hoping the blood cultures will come back with something, they should be back tomorrow.

They said something and possibly pneumonia, doc said he just isn't buying it, something about a little gunk on the bottom of his lungs , but not enough, could just be scaring, I think is what he said.

Teeth are not infected now, they are giving him probiotics
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Daisy,
I agree with Alva. You saved your husband's life.
Take time for yourself before and after being at the hospital. Eat, sleep, take a walk, watch TV, listen to music, call a friend. And breathe deeply.
Prayers sent your way.
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I still cannot figure why this doctor put him on steroids. He is now Septic and that is likely due to those steroids. He had infection somewhere and the steroids shut down his inflammation and his inflammatory response. Daisy, you save his life by getting him into the ER, because next step from UP blood pressure would have been LOW pressure, high pulse and septic blood flooding his system until all major organs shut down one at a time as his body swelled with fluids. He could easily have died. Big question still remains; how did this happen. My brother went septic from a simple non-healing sore on his shin and he died of it with Hospice care.

What I told Neil was the truth. His stroke would not have killed him. It would have left him with no function left side, garbled speech and unable to walk; and would have left him in a nursing home drooling for the remainder. There's a whole ton of things worse than death.

I am so glad hubby is in. This is going to knock him back, very hard on the body. Hopefully they find out what caused his septic shock, and the septicemia, and it is knocked out with the IV antibiotics. There are times they need more than a few days of IV antibiotics. They may move him to a SNF arm of hospital for a while to continue with the meds. Watch for signs of yeast proliferation with this high dose, folds of skin turning red with white coating, white on his tongue, under the arms, skin folds.

So glad he is in care. Take care of YOU and get sleep. You saved your guy by getting him into care. You are another lesson here on AC for CALL THE AMBULANCE no matter WHAT they say about it.
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So he is septic, they can't find the source, probably teeth. He is feeling good, but has to stay for 3 more days on antibiotics.
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Alva, I also remember something you told N, when he had is stroke. When EMS came and said his BP and he didn't want to go. I told him your choice, but you really may have a stroke, not die and droll on your pillow in a facility someplace, for the rest of your life. That is what helped him go.

He has had 3 or 4 bags of antibiotics, doxycycline and sodium cloried. I'm not so sure about the spelling but I think you can figure it out
And yes I told Doctor here everything his periodic high fever, him being put on steroids, his high fevers and his ankle swelling, and that he doesn't tell the doctors everything.
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Yes he has had a bag of maybe 2 of antibiotics, covid test was done, negative, and they did chest x-ray, cat scan , poo sample, urin sample, and lots of blood drawn. He was extremely dehydrated, got 4 bags of fluids. They tested for something, intestinal infection , they seem to be being very thrual

To add EKG also. That was good and I haven't made the plane reservation yet because of this. So I'm on that already. And will monitor him much better now BP temps. I think he learned his lesson that I'm not messing anymore when I called EMS
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Daisy, do they have hubby on Antibiotic.
Don't let them send you home without answers to all of this:
1. Is blood work COMPLETELY normal? If not, what is NOT normal and what would these values mean? What could they indicate?
2. Was hubby dehydrated on admission; could this have contributed to his high temps?
3. Why was hubby put on steroids? Does he have an infection or an inflammation (steroids appropriate for the latter but not the former).
4. Are lungs xrayed and clear; were covid tests done? Is urine without any infections.
5. This was a very high fever; do you have a CAUSE for it? Have antibiotics been given? If they have were they given for a specific reason or because of high fever without a known cause?
6. What was the cause of the joints swelling?
7. Is his know history of malarial in any way involved in this?
8. What are the next steps. If you have no answer to what happened here what should be watch for as far as recurrance? Is it safe at this point for him to travel out of the country?

If they haven't found an answer after blood work, scans, etc to this temp then you may have no answers. All the more important then to watch his temp, his joints, keep him hydrated and I myself would not be traveling out of the country.
If they have a referral to infectious disease or rheumatologist or something, grab it. IF they say they have no answer ask them if they have any best guesses.
Be certain you rule out that this wasn't due to his history with malaria.

Yikes. I know that's a lot but betting they will toss him out today. Be sure you know if they gave him an antibiotic IV.
Good luck, woman.
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Daisy, good news that high fever broke.

Continued prayers for both of you and for his medical team.
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Hang in there Daisy .
Glad to hear he’s improved .
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Jan, thanks so much, to be honest breathing is something I keep forgetting to do. I read what you wrote , and Everytime I woke I would deep breath and got back to sleep.

Pam, thanks, 🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️

He called me at 5 am his fever broke, at this moment I don't care whats wrong with him his alive!

Thanks so much especially you Alva, and isthisrealllyreal.
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Daisy,
Praying they find out what is causing all of hubby's symptoms. So very glad you called the ambulance! With his BP 220 over 100, he could have had a stroke. Very happy they got that under control.
Men are very stubborn when it comes to their health.
My husband had what I thought was the flu 3 years ago. He had fever that would go down when given Tylenol, then race right back up again. 3 days this went on. He didn't want to go to the hospital. Turned out to be a kidney infection and an infected kidney cyst. What a surprise. No overt kidney symptoms.
I share this story to reinforce that you did the right thing calling the ambulance. When he is diagnosed and treated, hopefully he will thank you. Get some rest. Eat something. Breathe deeply. Tomorrow you can persistently advocate for him.
And please keep us updated. We are all concerned and want to know how he is doing...and how you are doing.
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Ya know geaton your passive aggressive insinuation of "if what I posted was true", really shows what you are. Get thee behind me satan!
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Thanks isthisrealllyreal, they are keeping him overnight, still can't get his fever down, they said nothing in the test really is jumping out at them. I'm home, his daughter is visiting him now. Im gonna try to relax and get some sleep. I'm drinking a boost right now, try to eat more after a relax a bit
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Best of luck to you and your hubs!
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Daisy, I pray your husband is okay and they get to the bottom of whatever is going on.

I want to encourage you to not go straight to something terrible is wrong with him. He might have nothing and just an old age struggle but, no matter what he is dealing with, I'll believe with you that every thing will be okay.

Remember to hydrate, eat and rest while you guys go through this trial.
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ITRR, I searched it because I was curious myself, having been involved with a missions group to Papua, New Guinea, where several (but not all) of the group contracted malaria, even after being vaccinated. I also was familiar with the story of the discovery of quinine for malaria (via Amazon missionaries who all became sick but realized the indigenous people were not getting sick/dying and it was eventually found out it was due to their water source having cinchona trees growing in it leeching out a chemical into the waters). I found it useful and interesting. Mostly useful on this post if her husband has a history of malaria. In no way is a single anecdote considered a scientific fact, but I was at least willing to check into it because if what you posted was true, that'd be very cool and useful. I always assume others may benefit from facts and info as well. Who wants to send people in crisis down a rabbit hole over inaccurate information for no reason? That's all my post was intended to do. If you have more to say to me personally, please PM me.
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Thanks guys, ambulance came, his BP was 220/100. We are in ER BP is better and temp is better and doing lots of test.
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Wishing you and your husband well. If he's outdoors a lot but tested negative for Lyme, I hope they checked for other tick-borne illnesses (or will do so now). There are some really bad ones out there.
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Seriously geaton? You are intentionally provocative, get a life and stop with your passive aggressive bs with me.

I have personal experience with tonic water helping someone that had contracted malaria, obviously AI has artificially inseminated you to think you know it all.
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On are way to hospital, thanks guys
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Good. Something needs to be done. A scan or something. "We don't know" isn't good enough at this point.
Will check in later today after my treatment. Good luck, Daisy. I am glad you are going with the paramedics. They are kind and they are efficient and he will get seen right away, not left sitting the afternoon suffering in an infested ER.
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They are on their way
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Because it was brought up and confirmed by you, if your husband had malaria in the past, I would definitely make sure every medical team member he comes in contact with going forward is reminded that they should be looking at this first and foremost, also because whatever meds he takes in the future, the condition of his liver needs to taken into account. As for quinine, although a natural preventative, he would need to consume a huge amount of tonic in order for it to have any affect on a malaria relapse, if this is what his current health problem is now: "Consuming quinine through tonic water is not effective for preventing or treating malaria recurrences. The amount of quinine in tonic water is far too low to have any therapeutic effect. Tonic water contains only ~83 mg of quinine per liter. A typical therapeutic dose of quinine to treat malaria is 500�650 mg of quinine sulfate three times a day for 7 days (depending on the type of malaria and local resistance patterns). That�s over 1,500�2,000 mg/day, or more than 18 liters of tonic water a day..." Source: ChatGPT search results
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Ditto to what Alva said. 103.9 fever in an adult is EXTREMELY HIGH and extremely dangerous. I'm surprised he's not having seizures Nacy bc I was at a lower temperature than that as an adult! Please call an ambulance and get DH to the ER immediately!

Good luck.
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Get hubby to hospital ASAP.. If he is still on steroids with a temp this high he is in serous trouble. You can be looking at SEPSIS if you are seeing general joint pain and fever this high.
Jan, you are right, and if there are steroids on board it will cut inflammation and mask an infection. Giving steroids for infection rather than inflammation can cause serious consequences. Sepsis could run rampant and quickly.
I would get hubby to hospital, Daisy, whether he likes it or not. I truly would. He can't be sitting in an ER. If he can't be seen ASAP in urgent care and if there's no one to help get him there, call an ambulance. At least you are here at home and not in another country to address this.
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Sorry, 103.9
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You may just want to call the ambulance now. Follow the ambulance to hospital. Report all the symptoms. This may be an infection of some sort. With you there with him, you can give the docs all the persistent. And medical history. And please be persistent.
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