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Càptain, happy birthday (from one anti-establishment person to another)
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"Can we all scream yet"??? LOL OR just cry? Bad day here, sorry :(

Have fourth parent, my FIL.....And only one with Alzheimer's.

New thing for him, now cannot get him to get dressed! Stays in his pajamas all day, and tries to wear them in public too! I have to scream at him to put clothes on & his sneakers! Since he wants to wear his slippers out in public too :(


Big hugs to all ! I need to go cry, This is the hardest job ever. Hands down.
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thanks butterfly.
homebound,
ya gotta learn the art of compromise . elders are beyond trying to impress people . let the old fellow wear what he wants . i wear insulates at home in the winter and briefs in the warmer weather and i dont give a dam whos visiting . my briefs arent revealing at all and everyone i know seems to be ok with it . comfort is going to be my only concern when i get older . i have actually worn briefs into stores a couple of times . just squeak the a - shirt down a bit and do my store business . still nothing as revealing as women wear in public in warm weather . screw societys norms , its a new day with new solutions .
speaking of attire tho i nearly died laughing at the comment section on a ferguson missouri story last week . the blacks were chanting " hands up , dont shoot " . the commenters were chanting " pants up , dont loot " . im not a racist at all but seriously if i punch a cop in the face about twice i expect to be shot to death . that cop has a right to return to his family at the end of his shift . either way it will be nice to see all law enforcement wearing lapel cameras because L - E clearly attracts many sadist control freaks .
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ha ha Cap... you crack me up! really... I LOL'ed at my mental picture of you wearing your briefs while doing your store business. Hmmm, I may have too re-look at some of those Wal-Mart pictures again... to see if you're in em! :D just kidding.... I know you don't shop in wally world ;)

Oh yeah.... no need to scream at any elderly person for what they choose to wear. Only thing it does is make YOU more upset. Besides, be grateful they can STILL dress themselves in whatever it is. Hey, I too have went to the store in my jammies... just threw a coat on and off I went. Nobody looks twice especially when it involves the elderly here.... small towns are lovely that way and I so appreciate it. I cared more how mom looked than anyone.... now, If she's happy, I am happy and who gives a *&5$ if she's wearing her warm fuzzy Christmas jammies in Safeway.... not me (anymore)

Oh, I won the "find my dentures" game!

Uh oh.... pain killers are killing more people than ever, according to the CDC... jumped from 6000 a year to over 15,000 bummer
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No, its not good to let him do this.

There's an independency factor that he's letting go. Getting dressed (let alone washed) are independencies, soon as we let them slack OR stop all independencies, it does get worse.

Unless they are physically incapable of dressing due to being bed bound/etc, we cannot let them do this! He's paving the path to permanent placement a lot sooner for himself.

His social worker was just here, and he wouldn't even get dressed after I told him to prior to her coming. Now, of course she had to document this new trend of his.

This is our fourth parent under our roof, trust me I know about nursing & the importance of simple independent tasks such as getting dressed when capable . Caregivers are to "encourage" to keep as much independency as possible. If not, we are not helping them !
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Yes, I do agree with encouraging... I encourage my mother every single day to eat by herself... she no longer is capable of doing a good enough job of it to keep her nourished.

I read your brief bio and saw he suffers from dementia, right? Certain things are just NO longer important to them... why should he get dressed for his social worker? Why is someone documenting his desire to be comfy in his pj's? He's not paving his pathway to a NH... if he has dementia it is not his doing. You cannot scream at a dementia patient and expect that person to respond AS YOU WISH. Not happening.... as this is your 4th parent under your roof... it sounds as if you are paving his path... rightly so as i am pretty sure you are pretty tired of it by now. Still.... if he has dementia, you can't blame him.
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independence means doing what you want on your own time frame and wearing what you want . im not trying to be disagreeable homebound but as jeanette stated , dementia patients need control of their own lives . to remove one speck of control is to cause serious agitation . im pretty dam experienced with worst case dementia resulting in eventual death and i would consider what my mother wanted then try to help her fine tune it to work better for her . i never took control from her and she loved me for it . one day she got frustrated and stood on the porch hurling wrenches and sockets as far into the driveway as she could throw them . i never spoke a word to her and when she was finished i helped her gently back into the house . of course she was frustrated . she loved her home , son and parrot and death was going to take all that from her . dementia patients still have nearly twice the life experience that you have and imo role reversal is just wrong .
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Captain, I chuckle every time you mention your Mom saying " i aintta payin it "... my Dad is like that.

Last year my Dad needed a new computer printer, so we took him to the closes office supply store, variety of printers, he found one that did everything he wanted.... he saw the price and said he wasn't paying that... he wanted to go to another office supply store where he thought he could get the same printer $5 cheaper.... I wanted to bang my head against the wall, where's my helmet?

Hey, Happy Birthday, Captain :)
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its even worse than that freq . ive developed the same habit . sometimes it works out tho . i told an arbys employee a couple months ago that i wasnt gonna pay 3 bucks plus for their dry a** sandwiches but i would take one for my aunt . to my surprise the girl offered me the 3 for 5 bucks deal .
my mom always wanted to return half of everything she bought . i dont think it was buyers remorse as much as just seeking for the most perfect item and fit . i dont care for that and consider it a bit unfair to the retailers . after all dressing rooms are available . i refused to take things back for her . if i make a less than perfect purchase i feel i need to put more effort into researching what i need to begin with .
thanks for the birthday greeting freq . birthdays are a little happier occasion now that the hepc has been eradicated and theres the possibility of many more birthdays to come . my freakin liver is regenerating itself and feeling great . i worked hard right thru the muscle burning fatique for years , this is a real treat to see muscles building and my brain working better . next spring ill have the energy for a pretty veg garden again . tomatoes and opium poppies . lol
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opium poppies.... LOL!! i can't breathe........hahaha nut cracker!

can we import those? really?
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Medicaid worker told me today that Mom is not eligible for the institutional Medicaid they approved her for in Dec. Her income hasn't changed but when he called the local VA office to ask about the Aid and Attendance, the person told him it was 100% included as income. So now they want me to get an attorney and have an income diversion trust set up by Dec 8. Of course, the VA regional office sent a letter saying that now that she's Medicaid approved, they want to get the money back they've been paying her since Dec. We've expected repayment and have the money set aside. But clearly VA can't get their story straight. Time to bring the elder care attorney not this mess.
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So sorry Linda... sigh.... at times all I can do is shrug my shoulders., at life, at the fairness of it all... mostly at how our elderly are treated. Oh yeah... and how the carer's of the elderly are treated. I'd rebel at it all, but unfortunately mom can barely walk much less hold a sign saying "GIVE ME MY EQUAL RIGHTS".

Like you... we fall in that middle category of oblivion.
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im not caregiving anymore so my posts might be all over the place . a year ago i switched auto insurers for a better deal and the better deal was a lie . even after paying for a years insurance in full the woman threw a price increase on me . that pissed me off but not as bad as her trying for another 137.00 a few weeks later . i told her id had enough of her crookery and would run out the months id already paid . would not send the 137 . 00 , then id be done with her . she waived the 137 like it never happened . tonight i went back to my old insurer and terminated my business with her . thats one advantage of getting older , we can hold a grudge and bite out tongue for a year if necessary . couldnt do that when i was younger . the lady lied to me on multiple occasions and thought me stupid enough to overlook it .
to quote eddie murphey, " put an alligator in your butt , a radiator , in your butt , said see you later , in your butt " ..
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Belated Happy Birthday, Cap! Sorry I missed it.

Boy, did Mom ever have a bad day yesterday. Seriously hoping today is better, but it's not starting off that way.

I told her she should get up and get cleaned up and dressed - she sat in her chair for another hour or so, not moving, despite my saying a couple of times she needed to get dressed. Finally, she gets up, and I find that her protective chair pad is yellow with urine stains - again - and I mean SOAKED. Good thing it didn't go through to the chair, because she really saturated it. So I follow her to the bathroom and find out she didn't put an incontinence pad on sometime during the night, and that's why the chair was soaked. I try to get her to get in the shower to get cleaned up, but nothing doing - she showered yesterday, she says, and isn't showering again until tomorrow. So I have her at least wash up and get dressed.

Trip 1 out of the bathroom: Mom still has her nightgown on. I ask why she's not dressed, and she looks confused, then looks down and pulls up her nightgown to reveal she has pants on under it. Oookay...back to the bathroom for her top.

Trip 2: Mom comes out fully dressed, but when she walks past me to her chair, I turn my head towards her and see that her shirt is stuck into the waistband of her pants, which allows me to see that she has her underwear on over her pants!! Back to the bathroom. Mom was *really* embarrassed by this and chuckled over it a bit, but I could tell it really concerned her - she kept saying, "That's really bad..."

Trip 3: She gets the "outer" underwear off and opens the bathroom door to come out - I decide to turn around from my desk and see if all is well before she makes the trip out to her chair (to save her some steps!) - only to find she is about to start walking with those damn underwear wrapped around her ankles! OMG. So I tell her to STOP RIGHT THERE, DON'T MOVE! and help her get those off - she had no idea they were there. A major fall waiting to happen.

Trip 4: Mom ends up BACK in the bathroom when I smell a strong odor of urine emanating from her chair, and discover that yes, she put underwear on under her pants, but no incontinence pad, so the chair pad is wet - AGAIN.

Not a good day. I'm beginning to question the wisdom of taking a trip to see my son for a few days and only having someone check in on her a few times a day - thinking I may need to actually hire someone to stay during the day. (sigh) Starting to look like my trips are going to be few and far between if I have to pay for travel, lodging, food, and someone to stay with mom.
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Mama is not doing well. My emotions are all over the place. It is so hard seeing her seemingly so sad. I managed to get the tree up and I put it right here in the den where she can see it all the time and she just has that vacant stare on her face. The abcess has subsided and we were in the midst of making preparations to have the tooth removed. I am torn. On the one hand, I know Mama and I know she can withstand a LOT of pain..I think more pain than a Navy Seal...so if the tooth is hurting really bad she will NOT complain...but I don't want to put her througha lot that is not necessary...But again, I think maybe if the tooth was gone, it MIGHT help her...Just praying..but this is emotionally so hard. My brother has not been in three weeks and it is so lonely being here just seeing her like this...On a positive note my nephew finally came during Thanksgiving holiday and so he got to see her and she him, but sometimes I wonder if that is why she was hanging on....I have tried to prepare folks for what is coming..it almost seems like no one is accepting it ...or even listening to me...But I'm here.
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Captain, my parents also like to take things back, or return a grocery item to the store saying the store over charged them. Yet, do they take things back to the store when the store had under-charged them? Nope. It all balances out in the end.

Now whenever my parents say there were overcharged, I will dig into my own pocket and give them the difference saying I will go to the store at a later time... I never go back to the store, it's not worth the trip nor my time for a $1.00 difference in price.
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Dad left for hunting camp 5 days ago, it was nice to have some time with my daughters for 2 days alone even tho we lost power for 4 days. Wife and I had 4 days alone, busy but quiet and able to talk during dinner. Was much needed. Dad didn't even leave camp as I figured, said his knees hurt. He called me once while he was away, he was with family so if anything was needed I would have been called. It was nice to be able to come and go and not worry about taking him with me, is that wrong? He told me he wants his knees replaced. First of all he needs to lose major amounts of weight. Second I have a 3 story house, that wont fly. He can have them done near my sister since she is the nurse and she can accommodate him. He doesn't need knee replacement he needs to lose weight! Anything I say is wrong like go to the gym, eat healthier, try walking just up the street or to the end of the yard every day or just get out of the chair. I didn't want to go on the annual trip as I spent so much time with him and needed some wife time. Much needed for sure! I didn't realize how much one person impacts a house. even the dogs were quiet all day!
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I had a funny thought the other day when I was in the shower. Maybe not so funny to some of us living through the daily trials of caregiving, but I guess it's just the way my mind works sometimes - I'd rather make something humorous than cry and moan about it, I guess.

I was thinking - someone should make a Monopoly-style game called "Care-opoly". Each player is assigned a game piece that represents their aging loved one or the person they provide care for, and they have to work their way around the game board using rolls of the dice and landing on spaces that require a card be drawn to dictate their next action. "OOPS! Mom had an accident - skip two turns while you clean up and do the laundry." or "Dad took a fall - lose a turn (and possibly your job) while you take time off to get him to the hospital and arrange for after-care at home." and more positive cards, saying things like, "Mom remembered things from her childhood and regaled you with sentimental stories today - move ahead 2 spaces!" or "Dad remembered to take his pills on time and showered without anyone nagging him - award yourself $200!" Not sure what the requirements would be to "win" the game, though....no one really "wins" in the REAL game, unfortunately.
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Might give non-caregivers some idea of how disruptive this is to the lives of the caregivers.
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tgengine, depending on your Dad's age, I would discourage your Dad from getting knee replacements.... the older one is the longer it will take for him to recover and be walking like nothing ever happened. It would be a long haul. Tell him he would miss next year's hunting.
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Scream! My mother has gotten this new habit of holding her crotch when I'm around. What the frak is causing this? I can't stomach it, so have to leave the room fast.
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Jessie, this might be something to ask Mom's doc about - might be a UTI? I know we blame a lot of things on UTIs here, but they can cause such weird symptoms - everything from the usual fever and burning when they pee to mental confusion and aggression - UTIs really screw around with the entire system. Hope you can get some answers.

I wish I had something to blame Mom's recent behavior on, other than the obvious - age related dementia. I was hoping today would go better than yesterday, but she just came out of the bathroom, tossed her wet pants into the dirty clothes hamper (they weren't wet when she went into the bathroom...) and then walked out into the living room with NO PANTS ON. I asked her why she didn't have any on, and she said, "Because there weren't any clean ones in the bathroom and these were wet!" - I told her she needs to call me when that happens so I can get her clean clothes, and she just shrugged. I told her she should go back in the bathroom so I could get her clean pants, and she said, "Nope. I'm fine. I'm going to lay down now." Argh. This is a whole new low in her behavior. For it to happen just occasionally is one thing....but two days in a row of this is something new.

Can I just say I hate this dementia monster and what it does to our loved ones? Not to mention what it does to US as caregivers?
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Update on yesterday's whine about Medicaid/VA - turns out Medicaid had cancelled Mom's approval because of VA benefit and VA is in the process of reducing her benefit due to Medicaid approval. A weird sort of Catch 22. I was able to cobble enough paperwork together to show that this is was Aid and Attendence (the VA refers to it as a survivors benefit or death pension so it becomes confused with a regular VA pension that isn't due to need like A&A). She's been recertified and reinstated. A lot of unneeded stress and time wasted because of more VA ineptness.
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Linda, I was so relieved to read the whole mess is straightened out but sorry for what you were put through because of red tape, idiots & ineptness. Seems like that is the norm now, no matter what the problem is or who it is with.
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Linda,. wow... kudo's to you for keeping sane enough to cobble anything!.

Very nice to read that they are both coming together and it's working out now... slowly the stress will ebb away.... ahhhh
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I am starting to wonder if the VA does anything right. They sure have some troubles there. Thumbs up, Linda, in handling that so well.
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I think what would really help people navigate A&A and later, A&A transition to Medicaid, would be a straightforward list on the VA website. What we found out later was that we didn't need to have all the paperwork together before applying for A&A. Where this is important is that the meter starts running from the date you apply and the pension is retroactive. We were told by the VA to be sure we had every single document before submitting. The other thing we learned too late is that there is a form you can submit, requesting a decrease in benefits (to $90) once you're Medicaid approved. This eliminates the need to have to deal with benefits stacking up that you then have to return. It also eliminates any problem later that year with recertification with Medicaid. I don't know that one needs a professional to get the A&A rolling - just persistence. But I can't stress enough how much our elder care attorney helped with Medicaid, and my mom's case is pretty simple compare to others. I think I deserve a donut after this :-)
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re; elder care monopoly .
that just reminds me of some of the craziness that we have dealt with especially where dementia was a factor . this is a small example but a very real one where personal sanity is concerned . one day i took mom to wendys to get her a jr cheeseburger . seeing all the dark tinted windows at wendys she determined that someone had knocked all the windows out of the restaurant . far be it for me to try to argue with her . i just suggested that maybe the drive thru was unaffected . sure enough the drive thru was still working like clockwork . my mother has been gone for 16 months and let me tell ya my personal sanity is still something i have to actively nurture every day of my life . it matters not that you visited insanity as a close spectator and caregiver . that insanity leaves your mind questioning everything that travels thru it on a day to day basis .
i guess you learn from it tho . a couple of days ago when i asked edna where her hearing aid was and she told me she threw it in the trash , my immediate thought was " forget it shock jock girl , youre amateur crazy in comparison to your sister " ( my mother ) ..
it reminded me of an old " kiss " tune entitled " SHOCK ME " .
ill always treasure the year edna and i hung out on almost a daily basis . my phsyc doc said edna was doing me as much good as i was for her . those were some heavy words that im still digesting to this day .
i loved dementia caregiving but man it leaves your brain literally without range posts . there are no parameters , just knock that wall down , slap in a load bearing header and have it your way . pass go and tell em to cram their 200 bucks ..
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I hear you there, Cap!

Mom told me the other night that it must be cold out, because "the windows sound funny". I asked if the windows were making noise or something, because you know how it is with old houses - there's an occasional "pop" or "tick" noise from things settling, etc. Nope, she said - she couldn't explain it, they just "sounded different".

I still have no idea what she was talking about. I just nod and smile and say, "OK Mom...."
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Susan maybe she was hearing the mice running across the boards in the attic?
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