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Susan, my house looks like yours all the time.... at least you will be getting rid of stuff, mine is art materials and craft stuff.... bags of yarn.... totes with clay, tools.... ye gads, the tools.... you get the picture..... but it is my organized clutter and if you asked for something I would know where it is.....
And who is going to complain.... no one can get in here, ya'll will see me on an episode of HOARDERS.....but hey, it makes me happy.... and since we are repeatedly told we are in charge of our own happiness, mine is a cluster f**k of happiness....everyone have a good day..... appreciate the humor.... makes me feel so good to laugh and have fun with others that belong to this club we never thought we would be a member of......hugs to all..
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Gershun, be careful getting off the potty.... we are old and injure easily... hope you are feeling better and glad both the cats are happy now...sending you gentle hugs....
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Gershun...mercy girl...I hope you are ok...When I walk on the treadmill, I have to hold on for dear life now...I remember "back in the day" hehe when I could get on there and just work my arms, my hands, and even talk while I flew...now I have vertigo so bad that just standing up makes me feel like I am going to totter over...and I do quite frequently. I do not believe for a minute it is because we are old though girls...and guys...I am convinced when you are doing this constantly day in and day out it is taking even MORE of a toll on our bodies than we realize....I am a hard worker...never shunned it ...in fact, LOVE the way it makes me feel to really work hard and work up a sweat and then get that good hot bath and admire all the hard work...that is one of my likes....but it is a good feeling to accomplish something...but that is not what is getting me...I believe there is such a huge mental/ emotional/ physical connection, that, when any one of them, let alone all three of them become uneven, it throws our whole system out of whack...I KNOW I am not this decrepit ...I ...and all of you....are simply exhausted in every shape, form and fashion.....But I also have to believe it is reversible....and we'll get there....God sees our work and I have to believe it is not going unnoticed....I don't mean for kudos sake, but just for the ability to one day just feel good again, and know we did our best....good grief...what got me going....haha

Anywho...LADEE....I absolutely LOVE your home and I don't even know what it looks like but i meant to tell you last night I think you are AMAZING how you adapted it to be your home ..YOUR home and it is where you are happy and comfy...and so are your furtots....Ladies like you are the ones I admire...because you know your own true self...and you know that it is not the grandiosity of life that makes life but the eclectic personal style of what WE enjoy and feel comfortable in...

A lot of people think I am joking, and some think I am stupid... (dumb...hehe ...pointing to the avatar...) that I will say things on FB about buying a new pair of house shoes from the mens section at the dollar store...hey, that is my style...I love those shoes...but they are me so who cares....They wear just as long as those that folks buy at the fancy dept stores and pay 30.00 or more for and I've got 24.00 to put in my mad money piggy bank....I've got a lot of high school friends...never worked in their lives but made darn sure they married money, who turn their noses up at my dollar store stuff....pooey on em...I laugh, I cut up and hoop and holler and I am happy, they don't look that happy...I hope they are...but they sure don't act it... ah well.

OK...somebody slap me...I can't stop typing..

btw Gershun, love the kitty avatar and yes you absolutely do have to give them equal time....lol....I love my original butterfly avatar too, and of course the jackass..that one is a personal favorite for all kinds of reasons, but as time marches on it is frightening what may show up there.....can they ban me for using an inappropriate avatar??? probably .... meh

SUSAN....I'm right there with you on the boxes everywhere...I still have boxes and boxes and boxes from my move LAST AUGUST...there is no where to put it..and I have already gotten rid of the not necessary things...a lot of this is stuff I truly need, well, at least want....and I refuse to just chunk it without going through it...I almost started doing that one day and decided I'd better at least peep in there...I found a HUGE amount of very precious pictures that cannot be replaced...baby pictures that I cherish, pictures of Mama and Daddy beloved pets, my life, etc....so now I'm even more cautious of just getting rid of it...I think it's ok.. we live here, we're handling it...so I've just stopped worrying about it....I hope your Mom is doing well and adjusting to her new surroundings....

Thank goodness Mama woke up this morning and was lucid..after an entire day of sleeping and I do mean the entire day yesterday..It was shocking..one day yakkity yak...and less than eight hours later...out of it completely...I did well to even get two ensures in her...but I did know she greatly needed the rest ...I was worried about her when she was on a roll...worried about her when she was sleeping...she has had an ensure this morning and back asleep but I'm about to give her a spa treatment and even if she sleeps through it maybe it will make her feel good....back in a while ladies....and guys...

Captain...what happened to you???? come baaaaack......
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Ladee....you too? that must be another symptom of caregiving...the vastness of our belongings.....they will be coming to tape me as well....My brother used to come in and just stare at all of it and shake his head...he used to say stuff.....one day it set me off...he doesn't say stuff anymore.....hehehe

And as you said, if you ask me where most of my stuff is I can tell you...except for the boxes in the living room..I can tell you which room of stuff is in them, just not what is in them right now because I had to make such a fast exit last year my brother was cramming stuff here and cramming stuff there...he just wanted to go. I had gone with my boxes, my labeling pens, my smaller boxes to put my smaller things in...buddy that last about three minutes and he started pushing me...and then it looked like that scene from Rudolph the Rednosed Reindeer where the island of misfits packs themselves up in 5 seconds flat...oh well. we got it done...This time of year I am remembering that horrid event and dear Lord I am so thankful that is behind me...it almost makes me ill to think of it remembering the shape my emotions and nerves were in then...and I worry about Falcon knowing she is currently going through so much...

Falcon we love you..and hope you are ok...praying for you and your Mom...
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Hope,
I heard from Captain a couple of months ago after he got on to Jeannette for no reason.He said he was very busy and that caregiving work is so draining.I dont think hell ever come back.Glad your Mama is better today.Take care...
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I expect Falcon is off on her much deserved holiday. No news is probably good news, it probably means her mom must be doing OK without her.
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Here is that bird thing again and a strange whine moment....drove out to get the newspaper very early this morning and a big hawk several blocks from my house, swooped out of a tree over the road right for my windshield but then heading upward before he could hit the glass. It was like a scene from a movie!....then I am back home reading the paper when I glance out the back window and see this same hawk, (presumably), sitting in the backyard tearing a big fish to pieces..... Now I am afraid to go out back as I don't want him swooping down on me!
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Katie, I saw an article about a woman who had bluejays swooping on her... she got a metal colander, like we drain potatoes or spaghetti in, and wore it on her head while outside !!!! I crochet, maybe I can make something with a metal top on it so you can at least go get the mail..... maybe he is just happy to see you !!! Keep us updated on the Killer Bird.... hugs...
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hope, awesome that mama is feeling better!! Starting new meds on the elderly is a touch no go process. I quickly learned if my mom's personality changed and I started a new med on her, take her OFF just as quick. Some never bothered her....

Katie, could it be your guardian Falcon? Do you have a lake or river out back? Falcon's are such lovely creatures... a bit intimidating I'm sure!! LOL, I just have this vision of you outside with a colander on your head, he he...

Speaking of Falcon, yes, she's on her much earned holiday :) The peeps on the other side of the pond are serious about their holidays!!!

Crud, my computer is forcing me to stop typing, it's going to do it's update thing and won't let me postpone it. Grrr
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Thanks Lucky, Jeanette, Ladee, Cwillie and Katie....seems all our peeps are in place and ok then...great news. My put is sound asleep beside me as we speak ..I think I'm going to get a good hot bath as Mama is napping sweetly..Looks like rain may be headed this way and how glorious if we could have one of those lovely slow rain, thundery kind of day....Happy Sunday all...
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I really loved reading about your homes... gives me a better vision into y'all :), so when you are talking about what you're doing, I can see you ... ha ha, Susan, close the door when you go into that itty bitty bathroom now!!

You know, I really have noticed a lot of personality traits amongst caregivers. Yup, there really is a higher power reason why we are the chosen ones. Even close if you're the only child ... it was just meant to be that way. There is just way to many commonalities for me to think otherwise, this includes our siblings actions, just all of it.

Ladee, absolutely LOVE your description, a clusterF%#K of happiness. Ahhh, yes, so is my house! My enjoyment these days is fixin this place up to be my little sanctuary. I tend to start many projects at once and if you walked in here it looks like a construction zone, with tools, ladders, paint and yes, boxes everywhere. Currently I have 2 projects going on inside, the outside, well, lots of stuff going on out there. My reasoning for all these projects is this, some days I don't feel like being inside doing the molding, so I go to the outside and work on stuff, this way I'm not stuck doing one thing for days on end. This house is also about 1250 sf, the back yard is the BEST feature of this house. Very large, more long than deep, with 3 big fruit tree's, some other kind of big tree and a giant lavender bush. 20 ft tall privacy bush/trees around half the yard and nice fence around the rest. You could walk around nekkid and no one would see you... or even go skinny dippin!!

Being a DIY'er is so fulfilling...much more so than being able to afford to hire someone to do it.

So I'm sitting here watching a cooking show, which I love cooking shows...this one is all about tacos, the guy goes to all the great taco places, and now... I really want a scrapple taco. scrapple tacos...who knew?
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Good morning all! ! Wow, after reading all the posts from last night, you've been really busy, hysterical but busy, especially you Susan, I half expected your daily activity to end with somebody stealing your Van seat off of the sidewalk while you were wiping poo off of your shoe, but the it got worse, and you bashed your mouth moving it, I could just see that! I too have a crammed packed house with both of us collectors of all things, mostly junk. My house is about 1800 sq feet, and with the Old Man taking up 2 of the 3 bedrooms, and the main bath (of 2), we're out of space for sure, in fact, we are slowly chipping away at decluttering ourselves. You all get A's in my grading book, and LADEE1, the more I hear aboutyou, the more I admire, for sure! I collect craft supplies, always with good intentions, but often I don't complete my projects. I lack the follow through or lack the artistic flair I think I have at the time, it's well, Frustrating! So that stuff too piles up, until I can foist it off on some niece or my Grandies. Gershun, Susan, I hope your injuries are healing up today, I guess I am the resident Princess of this Club, with my arthritic knee's, I don't work nearly as hard as any of you, and I do have a husband who is home too, and he does spoil me, not that I'm complaining, lol, but I do feel bad that you all Do work so dang hard! But you are a KA bunch, with fab personalities, immeasurable dedication to your loved ones, incredible drive, and are super funny to boot, and while I may not always have a lot to whine about, I am thankful for being able to come here and feel an amazing connection with you all, which is so weird that you can get all that from a blog, don't you think? I mean, you are all such good writer's, that in my minds I can hear and see exactly what you are doing. I love that! I hear Jude is off on her adventure, oh, I hope so! Now she is one incredible lady! I hope all the Mom's are doing all right today and I best go and feed my little poochie, so be careful out there and enjoy this wonderful day! TaDa, Stacey oh, someone called me Stace in a post recently, and it was funny cause only my family sometimes does that, it was nice! Your starting to get me!
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JeanetteB, gheez, Great minds think alike! We are all comically connected in some strange way! Oh how I wish we could all meet up someday, somewhere right in the middle, in some Cool little town, and have a KA time together! It would be Awesome! We must work on that, I daydream about it sometimes. I wonder if we can make it happen, a survivors club convention of sorts, now That would be the most Real of Reality shows, and one that hasn't been done before. Now who can propose that to BRAVO, Sheradale, you could probably do that! I'll bet Teheheee!
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Stace :), you are our number 1 cheerleader for sure!!!

Hey, great minds do think alike, or think far too much, ha ha, can't decide which one today...but, as I was painting the baseboards in the mud room, I was thinking... oh yeah, so it goes like this, I love Spring, Summer and Fall here in the PNW, I do NOT enjoy the winters at all. It's just dark, foggy, gloomy and of course COLD. So here's what I'm thinking... he he, I am willing to hire myself out as a carer, for those who live in warm winter climates during the 5 winter months, however, you must be willing to accept my big pibble. If you'd like to take a week off and go somewhere, I'll stay...however, I do want my own free time to explore wherever it is I am and possibly help with air fair. HA!

back to painting and thinking...
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JeanetteB, I think that sounds like a really great idea! You would be an Awesome Carer, but be careful, you may not be quite ready just yet, but you know yourself best. I totally understand about the grey weather though, it can get you down! My hubby is very sensitive to the SAD, Sunlight Affect Disorder, in winter months. He gets situational Depression. I don't though. Thank goodness! Two cranky people stuck indoors in winter is two too many!
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I am still avoiding the back area as I saw the hawk fly into a huge tree. I not only picture myself putting a metal colander on my head, but the bird's talons grabbing me by the shoulders and taking off with me hundreds of feet into the air. Just think of what I would save on airfare though....Guess I will have to find a project to do in the house while Mom is napping and leave the garden for the big hawk and another day.
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Finally got everyone settled down, including me...Mama is looking so pretty today. I gave her a really good scrubbing and had rolled her hair so got that all combed out...she looks so pretty. I bought some of the best bath wash..it is one of the Dove ones and it smells so pretty and clean...makes the whole house smell good....She finally started drinking her water again, and talking more...so she was just slap worn out from all of her activity...We're more back to normal now...whatever you define normal as these days...

There is a walking dead marathon on and I am watching that and thinking of putting my feet up...but if I do that..that may be the end of me for an hour or so...it is so quiet and peaceful up here...it is most of the time...Certainly one thing I do not miss about where I used to be.. too many folks milling around your business down there...I love being able to roam around all over the place here in my rollers and pj's if I want to and no one gives a hoot...i haven't done it naked yet...that one might get me a couple of days in the big house......so I'll spare the neighbors and keep my clothes on....
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I live in the home my parents built 58 years ago and my husband and I sleep in my old bedroom Ive always had for the last 54 years except now I sleep on the couch next to Mother.This home makes me feel whole and always has.Now,my brothers and I each own one third of it and one brother told me 2 years ago."When Mom dies,youll have to get out Fast " And I told him he better roll his sleeves and get busy then.So I am and have always been scared about loossing this home I love so very much and I still dont know whats going to happen and where Ill live.My Dad had polio so he was in a wheelchair and the home is all wheelchair wide and one level.Mother kept all our toys and school papers and Everything so the home is FILLED with stuff and I love every single cool old thing so I dont know how i can ever part with any of it.But really,I cant think about it too much because Mother counts on me and I have to be ok for her and not a crying or mad m`ess but it is a big worry.
Mother isnt good today at all and is basically sleeping on and off.She does seem like shes got a foot in 2 worlds like that Hospice book says.Itts heartbreaking to watch and watch and watch though.Later,my Aunt and Uncle will be coming,thank God.
Hope you all are having a good Sunday.
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Wow...Mom is having an incredibly good day today and was *almost* her old self again. In her younger days, she had this odd cycle of calm, sedate behavior for about 2 weeks, then followed by 2-3 days of completely manic behavior where she stays up all night re-arranging furniture, cleaning house, going for a ride, writing letters...and then ends up calling us kids at 6am to say, "Guess where Dad and I went? We're up at the bridge!" (A 3 hr drive.) Then she'd sleep and nap for a couple of days, then start the cycle all over again. She's never been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, but some days I really wondered. I notice the same thing in myself - that I seem to have a cycle where I have bursts of energy, but it's not every single day. Nothing I could really call a "symptom" of anything, I just feel more productive some days vs. others.

Today was like one of her old manic days, where she was perky, bright, cheerful and raring to go. She woke up at 5am and dozed off and on and watched tv until I got there to pick her up for her ride. She chattered like a magpie all during our ride, but started slowing down a couple of hours later, and I knew it was time to head back - she was getting tired. She slept for an hour, and was back up, called me (first time she's actually called me in weeks) and told me she was going to call everyone else on the list I gave her (siblings) and then go listen to gospel music in the cafeteria. So glad she's having a good day, but I fully expect her to be exhausted when I get there tonight. LOL

Found a collage making program and am making a collage of pictures of Mom and Dad when they were younger, then up through their older years, and will have it printed on a canvas to hang in her room.

Got 2 big boxes emptied today - I'd say about 70% of the kitchenware in the box had to be trashed due to my daughter's use of it. (Or abuse, in this case.) I did find a few things my brother could use to set up his new home - you know how that goes, you always find more stuff you need once you move in, and he's starting from scratch. An entire trash bag of toddler toys had to be trashed (except for a couple of teddy bears I will wash up and keep for sentimental reasons), because they were literally smeared with sticky gross food residue. All of them. How in the heck does someone put stuff like that in a bag and just think it's ok?? ARGH. So frustrating. What a waste. I can't even donate them to Goodwill in that condition, and I don't have time to clean them - many are battery operated and would require very careful cleaning so as not to damage them. I don't have time for that.
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Hope, although it seems like they all have a life, don't take it for granted that they are happy. They are filling up their joy hole with things and events and that becomes addictive. We fill ours up with God and helping others. I think this will carry us through and also provide for our rewarding heaven. I read what you and Ladee said about men not helping. I am very fortunate to have a husband who will help "widows and orphans" as the Bible says, but he used to ask me when I worked to get men to help lift or carry, I just laughed! Most men in education in my experience do not see women as needing help since we dominate the system. But to find a gentleman anywhere is rare now. I remember in a parking lot of a hotel that had no bellmen, I asked a relatively young man if he could please help me put my bag in my trunk because I had a bad back. He actually stopped and looked at me for a noticeable time until I said I'll give you $10. I think that embarrassed him and he drove his car over and put the bag in. He wouldn't take the tip either which made me happy.
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Lucky, why in the stars above do you have to move?! OMG, I would go absolutely BOLLISTIC on those brothers of yours. I really detest siblings whom are so desperate for money they'll resort to harming the other siblings, especially the sibling who is caring for THEIR parent and they don't lift a lazy a** finger. Seriously, this really pisses me of... unbelievable. Sigh

Hey Lucky, your mother does not have AD/Dementia right? Is she able to communicate and comprehend things? If so, you need to talk to her about adjusting the will in regards to who gets what. Just to keep peace amongst those siblings of yours, have mom stipulate you are to live in the house until whatever... omg... I had to read your post 3 times... GRRRRR
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Lucky, how long have you been caring for your mom, living in that house?

I told my brother's that I could file a claim against mom's estate for 3 years on non-stop servitude, that alone would wipe out everything and still owing me, then I could send them a bill. HA! a**holes.
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Luckylu, I agree with JeanetteB on this one, it does seem incredibly selfish of said Brother to say such a thing to you after everything you and your husband are doing for your Mom, despicable! Not that you want to even think about it right now, but after someone passes, there is so much that needs to be taken care of, not even considering you grief, and then to have to ready a home for sale, and it's all just way too much! Luckylu, you must have a good Talking To this brother to point out the obvious, and tell him to back the F**k Off, as all will be done in Good time, when You are ready and Yes, you Will need a lot of his help when that time comes! GRRRR, like Jeanette, that flat out Pi**es me off! I have posted this before somewhere, but the Very next day after my MIL passed away, my SIL who couldn't be bothered to come to her dying Mother's side, sure enough got here THE NEXT DAY, and deposited absolutely Every Single Thing her Mother owned, clothing, jewelry, perfume, makeup, toiletries, handbags, hats, shoes, EVERYTHING, out into the inlaws livingroom floor, while we, my FIL, hubby and I who had been up all the night before, were out making all of her funeral arrangements. She pilfered through everything, taking exactly what she wanted, and then left the rest for us to deal with, and she never lifted a finger to help with any memorial planning, no food, flowers, picture board's, no help notifying friends and relatives, no making the pamphlets, picking out poems, music, or even wrote out a memory to be read by the Minister at the funeral. She did Nothing but Take, and the second the funeral and wake at our home was over, she split, but not before she and her other Worthless Brother and his wife at the time, asked if there would be a reading of the Will. It was so incredibly horrible, I feel my fingers clenching as I write this. Umm No, no reading of any Will, the three of us hadn't slept in 3 days! We weren't thinking along those lines. It's not like they were the Caringtons or anything. And usually unless You're very rich does money even go to heirs until the Spouse passes, unless it is a piece of jewelry or something, and she took all that she could find! Yes, it was terrible, and neither of them will ever be welcomed into my home ever again! They are Greedy Vultures! Whew, sorry to get on my soapbox, I hate doing that! But greedy people drive me nuts! Especially siblings that never lift a finger or have I'll intentions. I'm have thinking of only notifying those two three days after the Old Man eventually passes, as there is no place for them to stay, and they will never help in any way, so what good would it be? I mean, why put ourselves through that aggravation,as we will be way too busy with arrangements to keep a close eye on our home, and neither can be trusted to not break into our house and steal things, they are that despicable. I think I will talk to my husband about this. OK guy's, I'll check in later! TaDa
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Going back to the cats...my cat has to get on my lap when I am on the computer. He is my baby and then he licks the keyboard...adding gibberish and sometimes he deletes my posts, LOL!!!

My mother is in later stages of Alzheimer's, in memory care since April of 2013. She is still mobile but has had about 4 falls since November of 2014. We provided physical therapy for her to build up her thigh muscles and it has helped!! Problem is, my mom is starting into the dementia shuffle...you all know what I mean. She is not picking up her feet to walk, causing her to trip and fall. Now we focus on comfort care and quality of life care. However, she is content and happy...love those kitties!!!
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Katie, we have a lot of Eagles around our home, surprisingly, and I am afraid to let my little 4# doggy out into my backyard alone for fear one will pick her up and carry her away, and it could happen too! They can lift several #'s, I could truly see this happening. So she never goes potty alone, which is a pain, especially in the PNW dreary weather and my Son always teases me about this.
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sharynMMarie, I love kitties, but I'm allergic to them, waa! My FIL is doing the shuffle too, which has resulted in several falls in the past few months. He has Type 2 Diabetes, and now has nerve damage in his feet, therfore doesn't feel that he isn't picking up his feet. Getting Old Sucks! P.T. is definitely in order here too. He has become so sedentary in the past year that his legs are so weak, but I doubt that he would keep up with any exercise suggestions he is given, and I would hate to be the one to harp on him everyday.
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Been a bit AWOL. Hubby and I went to our property up north to take more tractor accessories home and he and his brother put the tractor on another trailer but it was still too heavy. So now we have all the accessories but no tractor. Then stopped in at my SIL's then my niece needed landscaping advice, it was hot so we went swimming, the stayed for supper and finally got home after dark and had to walk around outside for about 45 minutes calling for a cat.
This morning I decided to start burning the lumber from dismantling another outbuilding on the property next door. Had to pick the hottest day of the year but burnt lots of bits of lumber that had been laying around.
Too much sun, so came home and took a long nap so missed going to see dad.
Going to call his doc to see if one of those same day appts is still open otherwise I will have to just take the next available appt.
My hubby and I are big DIY'ers I know lots of women wouldn't do what I have done for yard work, remodeling etc... So Hope I can relate.
Rain tomorrow and cooler temps thankfully.
We have about an 1800 square foot house but also have my garden shed, a two story garage/workshop which part of the upstairs is full of mom and dad's stuff, the 50 x 32 ft 4 stall garage on the property next to us along with an old horse shelter that we have to tear down, almost done tearing downwith an outbuilding that the last renters turned into a chicken coop and ready to get the foundation basement of the mobile home demolished. Will be tomato canning time in a few weeks plus all the other fall chores. Whew I'm tired just writing this!
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Sharyn, yes I know exactly what you mean... dementia shuffle = removing every single rug or whatever that could make a person trip. It's nice that your mother is happy in her MC. Bet that makes it more bearable for you as well :) Those falls can be wicked I tell ya... mom had 3 pretty good ones ( during the middle of the night of course) there's still blood on the carpet from one of those falls... awh, my poor baby never once complained or said it hurt...she'd just give me a grin when I cleaned her up or rushed her to the ER for stitches...sniff sniff. I like kitties... hey, thankfully I still have mine since my big girl arrived :) She still wants to eat her... her hole body will shiver when I make her sit there and let the kitty hang out on the couch with us.... hehe, poor thing ;)

Stace, you can buy those physical therapy bands, you know, those stretchy things... we used it with mom as much as possible, to keep her muscles up. It does help, just not forever though... hey, I suffer from SAD too. I finally realized just why this small town has so many tanning salons, they go for the synthetic sun rays, not because they want to be golden brown, they want to be happy vs depressed!!

Hope dear, isn't it nice to have a peaceful day? Just you and mama both feeling the love :) Your mother always looks pretty and happy, I'm sure today isn't an exception either. Funny how we keep our mother's pretty and we look so ragged at times :/ haha, you can bet mom was lookin fresh when we went out, I just didn't care how I looked anymore, almost still don't... ahhhh

I'm all painted out. It's just awful how one seemingly simple project turns into 87 other projects just to complete the ONE SIMPLE PROJECT. Tuckered...
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Well I think I'm with Hope. Gonna watch The Walking Dead marathon. I kind of feel like the walking dead today with sciatica and a big goose egg on my head from whacking into the treadmill. Someone shoot me.........
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Hope22, Check on this, but I think scop patches are one that can be cut if needed. Yes, those side effects are highly possible, maybe not terribly dangerous. I do not know why so many heath care providers are in denial about side effects - they happen! Anybody can get any side effect on any med, and its either been reported before, or it hasn't...that's the (famous? infamous?) Stefans-Gibbs Law of Side Effects. Thank goodness most people don;t get most side effects, most are not too serious and most of the ones that are will be reversed with lower doses or stopping...or else they couldn't have anything stronger than Colace out there on the market.
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