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I received a suspicious call this afternoon on my cell which normally I’d ignore as a robo call but something told be to answer it

As it turns out, this was fortunate as it looks like the Viking is the victim of identity theft

I'm hopping mad and now have to figure out if this is widespread and file a police report and a notarized statement with the service provider to get her taken off the fraudulent account
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cw -you could go back to college and finish! I think there are many here wondering the same thing.. I can't imagine not having the pressure of mother in my life.

Oh madge - id theft. That IS the last straw! More work for you which you hardly need. I winder if they do suctioning other than when they are ill. Breathing treatments would help. How is the Viking on the reduced dose? Is she more alert?
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CW, you could go back and finish! I did not finish my undergrad until 35. My Master's? I was 55. I enjoyed it! It is never too late. Ask BarbBooklyn. Her avatar is her mom receiving her degree, at what age, I don't know. And there are many colleges that will not charge for classes when you are above a certain age. I do have student loans, still.
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Willie, your Mom's nursing home sounds so much like my Mom's was. I had to force myself to let things go cause it really didn't seem to matter to anyone working there what I thought or said. When she was still living in her apartment I was picking up certain vitamins for her that I could see were really helping with her dementia. B12 for instance. I asked could they keep on giving her that. Their response, "her B12 levels look fine in her blood reports" Maybe that is so but if you see a mental or physical improvement with something, why not keep giving it. Who cares what the blood reports say.

I feel so for you all that are still having to contend with all this.

It's been over three years now since Mom died and I still haven't figured out what I'm doing or going to do with the rest of my life. Sendme and I are thinking of possibly starting a comedy act and taking it on the road. If anyone wants to join us please submit your comedy ideas. :)
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Was it Colonel Sanders who started
kentucky fried chicken when he was 70?

It was likely his grandmother's recipe, and he waited until she passed before passing it on to the public.

It is not over yet!
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In agreement with Gershun about the B12, sublingual.
Injections for menopausal women have improved their
energy and outlook for years in the past. Until insurance
companies did not want to pay for this treatment.
A research scientist found that it is good to treat schizophrenia
symptoms, and drug dependency. Don't quote me on that because
I do not have the reference.

Taking it on the road, yes, we are Gershun.
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MsMadge,

Even today's call could be a scam. Be sure it was someone legitimate giving you info, and not asking you for info on Mom! Better not to talk to anyone calling you.
Ask them to mail the info. When they ask where, the address? Tell them to mail it to the address on file.

Banks, the credit reporting agencies all say they do not call a customer, so beware.
If it was someone claiming to be the sheriff, for sure it was a scam collection call.

Send for her credit reports right away from the 3 major credit reporting agencies.
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I used to have a sense of humor and I now take vitamin b12 everyday 🤔

I should have a better sense if the lower dose of risperdal is having any impact on improving mom's sleepiness during the day when I spend time with her on the weekend-so far, it doesn't seem to be from what I'm hearing from the caregivers....

the call today was legit as I called the service provider back and they confirmed her SSN was being used to open an account in a nearby city -
the initial call was to my cell phone as this is our cable company and they have that number on file - I hope this is limited to them as I'm uber careful about everything however I've had three different cable guys out since July with problems with the service - coincidence??
if not, then only hoca has access to her SSN in their files -

frustrating and a royal pain the rear -
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I very strongly today feel that mom is done, she's too tired to continue, she's ready to go. I know we aren't down to imminent death but I think if they laid her in bed and stopped feeding her and just let her be it wouldn't be long, but instead everything just goes on as normal and I am left once again trying to navigate these waters on my own - I've been searching signs of death but I've been reading them for years already and so many have applied for so long and I am not finding any new insight. I'm supposed to go away to a family party this weekend and I don't want to go, but then I didn't want to go in the first place so maybe I'm just subconsciously seeking an excuse to stay home.
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CW, I am mostly determined to leave AC, but I need to get some of my friends to the finish line!

Ask yourself if mom would want to continue this way.

After my mom's fall in August 2017, she "refused" to get out of bed. Don't know if she'd had another stroke or what; she had been taken to hospital , xrayed and CAT scanned and nothing other than a broken wrist was dxed.

But she wasn't getting up. she had gotten up after so many other breaks, injuries, etc. I recall talking to the NH doc ( of course, I was in the park with my grandson who had just announced that he needed to defecate, after I'd just asked him in the museum if he needed to go....).

I remember her saying, Barbara, if she doesn't get up she's going to get pneumonia, and we know where that is going. And I said to the doc, If she doesn't get up, she's making a choice, isn't she?

And the doctor agreed.

Mom was sort of out of it, eating a bit, but not getting up for a few days. But then she started in with a face that said "I'm either is psychic or physical pain, OMG". That's when I bullied my brother into Hospice, got her on morphine and got her on the cloud to Heaven.

CW, this part of the journey is unbearably hard. I still lie awake at night, wondering it I did the right thing.

But if your mom is not eating (I couldn't even get my mom to eat lemon ice, her favorite, at the end) then it's time to let go.

You are SUCH a good daughter!!!!!!!!!
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Thank you Barb. I just expected a little more guidance and maybe a little bit of hand holding (literal and figurative) from the people at the NH, they have never come to me with updates or concerns it is always me going to them. At least when she was still home mom's palliative care nurse did not shy away from talking about death and dying, at the NH it feels like a cross between a big secret and business as usual. At the care plan meeting they talked about the palliative performance scale and all their protocols but none of it seems to involve keeping family in the loop. Things supposedly get addressed more aggressively when people reach 30% - we placed mom at 40% when she entered palliative home care 5 years ago.
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Am I supposed to go to them and beg them to let her go?
(And yeah, it's another long weekend which means no management and short staffed)
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Cw, remind me, is she on Hospice?

My mom was on Palliative care (POA brother would not sign for hospice " until she is bedbound, incontinent and doesn't know who she is".)

The NH swore up and down to me when that choice ( palliative and not hospice) that morphine would flow like water when it was needed.

It didnt.

When mom was clearly in some sort of end stage pain/angst/terror, they doubled her tramadol, which did nothing. I went to the nursing station in tears and the very kind aprn said to me " maybe it's time to call hospice". And it was.

I think most health care providers are reluctant to tell you that it's time. You need to ask.

Bless you, sweetheart!
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madge - Hope tracking down the ID thieves isn't too much of a PITA. Let us know how your weekend goes.

((((cw)))) such a hard time. Trust your gut sense. As long as she is eating some, she has to be fed. Once she refuses food, like Barb's mum, it is time. I know that will be a signal for mother when her time comes. Asking them would be a good thing. Re the family party - do what you want to do - let go of any sense of obligation.

Barb - Be at rest. You did the right thing. Your mum wasn't eating - she had wound down, it was time The pain, whatever it was, had to be relieved. I hope you stay around AC, Your input is very valuable.

Mother is winding down too, just extremely slowly. It is not easy for any of us to watch the decline and deal with what we have to deal with.
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I'm in Canada, there is no such thing as hospice except at a dedicated facillity (at least not in my province) - palliative care IS hospice care, they are synonymous.

I've been thinking and concluded that nursing homes here really suck at end of life care, they keep tip toeing around the issue like they aren't in the dying business. Perhaps all that talk about the palliative performance scale was supposed to mean more than they came right out and said? They say the door is always open but in reality everything is funnelled through the charge nurse on duty and there is never any scheduled contact, at least I got mom's home care nurse's undivided attention monthly. And there is no social worker to guide you (although there may be in larger centres) or bereavement counselling unless you find it for yourself.
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I'm in Canada too, cw. Mother is on palliative care. My route for information is to talk to nurses in her unit, the Director of Care and then the doctor when I can get him.
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Remember, NH's make money on long term patients....
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(((Cwillie))), sorry you are going through this...the NH sounds very frustrating to deal with. And sorry too to hear your mom's not doing well. Like Barb said, you are a good daughter. When the time comes, I know you will do your best for her just as you are now.

It might be good to go to the party just to get your mind off of things for a little while, but I totally get it too if you just don't feel like going. Just do what you need to to take care of you either way.
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Willie, I feel so for you. Don't ever worry if you are doing the right thing. It's all guesswork at this point.

My Mom died in hospital. The next morning I received a phone call from the nursing home advising me I had to have her room cleared out that day or they would put all her stuff in storage. I never even received a condolence card from them or anything.

Canadian here too but I doubt if this is solely a Canadian problem. It's just the system and it sucks.

I knew something wasn't right with my Mom the week before. Her voice was dead, no emotion. I know some of you haven't spoke to your loved ones for a while but my Mom was still communicative. But that last week, like I said, no emotion in her voice. I think she willed herself to die.

I wish you the best always Willie.
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Cwillie

The Viking and I aren't where you are yet and it took me two years to even change her from full code to DNR so I have no idea what I'll do when faced with tougher decisions

give yourself some stillness and listen for your inner voice to guide you- no one knows your mom better than you even if a medical professional offers up an opinion, I will not do something if it doesn't sit right with me

I am rarely in the mood for a party these days but it does sometimes help to be out of yourself for awhile however given my family's complete lack of contact with mom, I'm generally better off not seeing them

hugs to you - sleep tight tonight
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Mom was a little better yesterday, she was actually awake and following my conversation - these ups and downs are par for the course I guess. She nodded yes for me to stay for supper and was awake the entire hour, so I will help her eat as long as she keeps showing some desire - would you like a sip of coffee/bite of your pasta mom? - but I'm more ready to stop coaxing when she shakes her head no.
I'm up early and off to great nephew's first bday party today. Better hit the shower and get on the road.
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I'm off to the police station and file the report on mom's stolen SSN, and then into the office for a bit

so much for a holiday weekend
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Cwillie,
How was the birthday party for great-nephew? You drove, on the freeway? Or on surface streets? A milestone! Want to hear details please.

Ms.Madge,
Was the police station open for business today?
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The birthday boy had two little friends at his party so we were all entertained watching the three of them playing😁. Lots of presents, lots of food, lots of cuteness! And no freeways for me, I drove to my sister's place (grandma & grandpa) and we carpooled with the rest of the family, so no driving for the old folks.
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So happy for you that you were able to attend!
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Good for you Cwillie - hope there was plenty of cake !
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The police station was kinda open - the door to the lobby was open but no one was there - pushed a button and spoke with a dispatcher
she suggested I take the paperwork with me and gather all the "evidence" and bring it back when they're open for business

I'm still trying to confirm that I've got fraud alerts in place now since I was disconnected via the automated phone system and my online attempts failed

I think I'm stuck waiting 15 days to see if credit reports come in the mail

I was really hoping it was an isolated incident caught in time, but since I couldn't download her credit report online since it involved multiple choice questions involving identifying debt, which ranged from car loans, mortgage and credit cards - none of which are hers, I'm feeling very anxious
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Madge having multiple choice questions to download a credit report is the norm, don't let it freak you out. Each question will have four options, I think. One is address with options, only one address will be associated with mom. You check the correct answer. There may even be an option "none of the above". The questions about accounts will also be a list three of the accounts listed will not be related to mom's credit report, one will be a company she had a loan with or a credit card. Relax. It sounds like the normal questions, they are only a means to identify that you are the person that you say you are.
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Whine: I have a sinus infection that is causing a very sore throat... and I sprained my lower back yesterday morning by just getting out of bed. It's a weak spot in my back but hasn't acted up in years, went out yesterday morning when I got up out of bed.

I'm happy with my independent and single person life EXCEPT when I'm sick and have no one to run out and get my cold medicine and chicken soup. lol :-(
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ali,

hope you have a hot pack or hot water bottle for your back, unless I've is more smoothing

if you can lift a saucepan to boil some water then do a salt water steam for your sinuses- I've only had a sinus infection once and it was awful - felt like an elephant sitting on my face

wish I could run to the store for you
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