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Cali,

Sorry about the fall. Hope you will feel better as quickly as possible. Hugs! Sounds like you’ve been through the mill. So sorry. Hang in there!

You’re a tough cookie!
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Worried, sorry to say, your brother doesn't see how sick your mom is because 1) he sees her everyday but doesn't really see her, 2) he is an alcoholic therefore it is not registering in his brain. He probably thinks he will get enough money to pay all the bills and be able to live off his inheritance for the rest of his life.

I learn from being in therapy that when parents enable a child it has nothing to do with the child--it has everything to do with the parents--it makes them feel better.

Just today my mother found out that my brother is moving to another section 8 apartment and she is so upset, disspite that she is not doing well, she is upset because she doesn't want him to move and feels like he is making a mistake. She is mad because she has no say in the matter. Not saying this is anything like with your parents and brother. But anyways, I had to tell her it is his mistake and you can't control him anymore. For the love of God, he is 52 yrs old let him make a decision for once in his life. And of course, she has to because she has no way of stopping him and I am not going to. Not my job!

I think your parents enable your brother because it make them feel better.

And yes it sucks getting old because when we fall, we just didn't bounce back like we use to:(
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Shell, that makes total sense! My mom absolutely feels better enabling my brother. My dad probably does too but he also wants my brother out of the house. He wanted to give him $5k to leave but my mom put the kabosh on that when she pointed out, and she’s not wrong, that it wouldn’t last him very long since he has no job! I just don’t understand how it got to this point. Well actually after reading what you wrote, I think I’m starting to understand. Even though we weren’t raised to be takers, we were raised to believe that nothing was owed to us, that we had to work for what we wanted and that there were consequences to our actions.....it is far easier for my mom to let my brother be a taker and not have to suffer the consequences of his actions. It was easier to be the enabler when he was released from the youth authority many years ago. Because when he’s under her roof, she doesn’t have to worry about him! It has nothing to do with him and everything to do with her. And I can’t fault her for that, I can’t be mad at her. I hate the situation and the fact that their golden years are anything but golden because of him.

I never thought about the alcoholism clouding his judgement that way and making him unable to see her real condition. I do believe he thinks he’ll be provided for for the rest of his life even after they are gone but that has to be in part because he’s generally clueless about how life works and what the cost of living is!
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Now you see it! Unfortunately, our mother's enable our brother that crippled them just to feel better.

Like you, my brother and I was taught you have to work to get what you need and want, however as my mother gave my brother more and more he became entitle. The same thing probably happen with your brother. And our brothers never can hold on to money because they don't value or respect it!
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My MIL enabled her drug addicted 55 yr. old daughter so much it sent daughter into the grave. I don't know what part of tough love she never understood. When I said something after one of many troubles SIL caused with her drug addiction, the in-laws always said "We can't say anything"...When I asked "Why not?" I was met with silence. I was always the bad guy who just didn't like poor SIL in their eyes. Now 89 yr. old mother in law can't handle her daughter's death from an overdose 2 years ago. She makes up a story that SIL had a lung disease which caused her death. Now my husband is the only child and we are now having to help MIL, which SIL law was supposed to do living there. We were lied to that she was clean. The story before when SIL got cars and money was that she was living there to "take care of his mother". Instead she used the car, money, and sob stories to get back on drugs. MIL even gave SIL the birthday money that bought the drugs that killed her. This is the worst case of denial I have ever seen. In-laws refused to listen. It becomes some sort of co-dependency that can turn into tragedy.
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Katie,

I get it. My brother was hooked on heroin at 13. It breaks my heart. That long ago, parents didn’t think to speak to children about drugs. No drug education in schools either. Not excusing, just stating facts.

He fell in with a kid at school, (a wealthy kid) that wanted to try it and talked my brother into it. They both became hooked. It’s not just ghetto areas where drugs are taken, like people used to think. My neighborhood was a nice upper middle class area.

My point is some parents just don’t know how to understand the situation. First and foremost they love their kids. They come from a hush hush era and have no frame of reference. They made mistakes. All parents make mistakes just like all kids do. I hated my parents at one time because of feeling invisible to them. My brother took all of their attention. When I got older I could see how difficult it was for them.

Thank God, people are more open about discussing topics now. There were no support groups for us in that day.

There was shame involved. Truth be told, it’s a disease. A very tough disease. We have to remove the shame so people will feel incentive to get help and their families get the support they need.

It takes the majority of people several rehab attempts to become clean. My brother is dead now too. I forgave him. Yes, it’s hard but it became harder for me to stay angry and not forgive. It’s a complicated situation. I see all sides. Just telling how I feel. No one has to agree.

It’s horrible for everyone involved and some unfortunately some never figure it out. It is a tragedy.
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Need, I think in the case of my SIL, that there was so much competition among my MIL and her sisters as to who had the smartest, prettiest, more dutiful, etc. kids, that they kept this so secret for fear the rest of the extended family would find out, that they began to deny the problem themselves. It is most hurtful now when MIL tells my husband he didn't "take care of his sister", like it was his fault when it was she who gave her money and denied the addiction in her daughter. He lived far away working and getting his own life together, and frankly the addict will avoid those that are on to them. She was a master of covering her tracks. No pun intended. The parents knew what was going on and bailed her out and covered for her every time. This problem does transcend all socio-economic levels. I am always glad when families today talk about the problem and seek help when it becomes too much to handle, which it does.
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Katie,

Yes, that can easily happen. I understand that can occur. Sometimes there is unhealthy competition within families. There is denial too. Not always on purpose. Sometimes it is in order to emotionally survive.
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Oh yes I do agree with the irritation about 3 big meals a day ! Unreal! Mom wants 3 meals a day to be served to her!its 11:30 am and they are like I guess there is NO FOOD TODAY....oh I guess I do not get coffee today!! About 2 months ago I would put Aunties wheelchair up to kitchen table auntie auntie would pick up her spoon beat it on the table and scream DADADADAD!! DADADADAD!!WHERES THE FOOD OVER AND OVER UNTIL I GOT HER FOOD IN FRONT OF HER!!I LOVE TO BUY FAST FOOD FOR THEM BOTH BECAUSE THERE IS NO MESS TO CLEAN UP!!! and I never felt guilty!! They LOVE IT!! LOLHAHA they really are something else !! Arent they....
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Lorraine,

I wish that you and I could meet for a gourmet dinner somewhere! If anyone deserves it we do! I cook every single day! I know you do a lot for your aunt. I have done more than my share for mom. Hell, we deserve to go on a luxury cruise after all of this, watch the waves in the ocean, the blue sky during the day, the stars at night, etc, etc, etc. be waited on hand and foot! An all expenses paid trip! I’m dreaming of it. Are you? Hahaha
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Tired of waking up in the middle of the night to change mom along with the sheets! It’s just too much!
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Need help

have you tried layering two or three Chux ? Not the disposable ones, but the washable ones? You can find them on Amazon

if mom wets through the top one even during a diaper change then it can be rolled up and replaced with a new one while the sheets are still protected

you will still have laundry but nowhere near as badly as changing sheets in the middle of the night
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Never have used those. I will look into that. Thanks! I have Amazon prime.
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Needhelp: "luxury cruise after all of this, watch the waves in the ocean, the blue sky during the day, the stars at night, etc". Oh yesss!!!

I don't necessarily need total luxury, just a ferry will do as long as there is blue sky & sea :)

I met 2 longtime caregivers recently (worked alt shifts). When the very elderly elder they were caring for was made palliative after surgery for a very nasty broken leg, they booked their cruise (or was it a tropical island escape?) Elder was hardly verbal, hardly eating, unable to move for weeks... but then survived - but would be bedbound til the end of days. That cruise was keeping them going for sure.

Start collecting brochures & sticking them inside your cupboards (like Shirley Valentine).
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YES YES YES THAT SOUNDS SOO NICE A LONG CRUZE .....BUT KNOWING OUR LUCK IT WOULD END UP BEING A SENIOR CRUZ AND WE WOULD END UP CARING FOR EVERYONE LOLHAHAHA!!
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Beatty,

Yes, I was just dreaming BIG! Hey, I will jump on that ferry with you, if you don’t mind. I like the way you think. Love your response!
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Lorraine,

Hahaha. No! Don’t even think that! A senior cruise? Hell, NO!

I’ve never even been on a cruise. Travelled, yes but never got around to a cruise. I was just thinking it would be lovely to have everything planned, nothing to decide or alter, just pure relaxation! Well, deciding what cocktails to order would be fun!
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Been following heartbreaking news out of my parents area this morning. Some heartless person ran down a well known neighbor out walking his 5 dogs (whippets) early this morning just before 7am! None of them survived-the man died and law enforcement had to euthanize 4 of of the dogs at the scene. Just horrible. Many of the residents would see him out walking his dogs every day :(
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That's AWFUL, Worried - what about the man, was he killed too? Is there any security footage, will they catch the [many rude words deleted] driver?

Oh world :(
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The man died too CM :*(

The sheriff’s department & highway patrol will ask residents to check their cameras. I hope the residents there have them. It sounds like ring doorbell cameras are popular there. They say the suspect was probably driving an 80s or 90s model GMC SUV, van or truck. But that’s about all they know right now.
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I suppose... if all my dogs got hit by a hit-and-run driver I'd rather he got me too.

But what a wicked thing to have done. I hope they catch him.
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Worried
That is horrible and sad! Good grief what is this world coming to?! 😥
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I feel the same way CM. Just take us all out together! I couldn’t handle it if my fur babies got hit by a car.

Well they have a suspect vehicle! Video footage of a late 80s to early 90s blue Chevy suburban is what it looks like to me. Driving past the little shopping center across from my parents subdivision.

shell I know right? Just awful. I wish I could say it’s rare that these things happen but they happen all the time in this world :(
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How sad! What a sad story.

People have been poisoning dogs at local parks here. Leaving meat products around for unsuspecting dogs to eat.

I'm seriously starting to think everyone is losing their mind. I look at people now differently. Some guy at one of our local malls was going around sticking people with a hypodermic needle. Twice recently someone has been driving the wrong way down a one way street and killed pedestrians on the sidewalk.

If I went on a cruise I'd probably catch the Norwalk virus.

Oh and today I went for an eye exam and he says I am a glaucoma suspect cause I have higher eye pressure readings and one of my optic nerves is odd.
I was told this 5 years ago too and was panicking everyday but it turned out that I have thicker corneas so that's why my readings were high and I was probably born with my optic nerve this way so I'm not going to let myself go down the panic road (YET)

I'm scheduled for a visual field test and eye mapping etc. just to get a baseline of my eyes.

Should I start wearing full armor when I go out?
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I loved the movie Shirley Valentine

poor coworker collapsed while getting lunch this week
bldg security performed cpr til medics arrived -

if it was me not sure I’d want Cpr
- he’s in icu and sedated
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Good news! The suspect was arrested this evening around 5pm. It’s confirmed, the victim is the older gentlemen with the 5 whippets, he was 59.
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Great! He deserves to be arrested!
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Gershun, I feel the same way about this world. My Bishop has stated that we forgot how to be human because their is a whole generation that grew up with technology. They didn't have to interact with eachother such face-to-face as we did therefore, not learning social behaviors:(


Worried, That is great news!
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Shell,

Smart Bishop! So very true!

I find past generations were more independent because we interacted more in society. Of course there are pluses to technology. We are not going back now. Those days are gone forever. My husband makes his living in the tech field. My house always has some device in the developmental stage that he is developing or testing for the market.

When I am bored I like to freak mom out by telling Alexa to beam me up and she plays the Star Trek theme. Hahaha. I can’t take the chronic anxiety with her of the time so to break the monotony I suppose I am a bit naughty at times. Hahaha. I also freak her out with a few other hi tech things that I learned from hubby. 😂
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I like computers, IPhones, etc. But I like people too. I make a big effort to see friends and family as much as possible. And I like to seek out new people - library groups, AAUW, UMaine alumni groups, athletic booster (I still support high school athletic groups in which my son participated 20 years ago), volunteer at nursing home, League of Women Voters, etc. I went thru a period when I lived with my mother where I was isolated, didn’t like it and made my escape.
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