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Glad 3 in a boat. I have just insisted mum go back to her day bed so she can rest her legs. Sneaky huh? She says that her knees are stiff so I offer to rub paingel into them but only if she lays down while I do it!
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In same boat with Susan and waiting for a fall from the chair. Why in the world does mom get out of bed, only to go back to sleep in her chair?! Tell her go back to bed, more comfortable than sleeping in the chair, and all I get is the shake of the head and the deer in the headlights look! GRRRR!
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Susan hang in there gal - you're doing fine babes xxx Caring is an emotional roller coaster and it is OK to break down and cry - just so long as you kick yourself up the butt now and then consider yourself HUUUGELY hugged me dear. xxxx

CM told you so is not something I l ever say but I swear that people with dementia defy all the odds and live long past what we expect! I think that diet sound perfect - stay strong sweetheart Keeping you in our thoughts - I would wrap you in Buble wrap too but Mallory seems to have her siights on Michael Buble! xxxxxxxx
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im sure looking forward to moving into my house . the bunker is comfortable enough but the house upstairs is years ahead of its time in both beauty and function . i know what my mom would say " get your butt into that house man , thats what you built it for" . then shed say " i just love that little kitchen " .
funny story ;
edna came out and visited with me in the bunker a couple times last summer and went back and told her daughter i lived in a shack . the next visit edna and i hauled a couple loads of driveway stone and she got to visit upstairs for a while . i asked sharon if edna was still talking that " shack " crap . lol . sharon said edna had replaced " shack " with "absolutely beautiful little house " .
hope edna can come visit when i move upstairs . i wish she could live with me , i could take a few months off work to care for her .
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Susan, you're entitled. All this really can get a girl down, eh? I've often felt it's not the big stuff, it's the accumulation of little things chipping away at you that can leave you sitting staring at the kitchen table with a mug of coffee going cold in your hands and no desire to move an inch. Big hugs, and hope your mother's head gets better quickly - isn't it amazing what they cope with?

I actually meant to thank everyone properly for the thoughts and hugs and good wishes, but got sidetracked and need to rush. Mother seems to be drifting in and out, unconscious when she stops breathing every couple of minutes, but all the medically qualified people are telling me that very old people often do this and then are right as rain a few days later. It could be the last leg, or it could not be. I'm just hanging around the bed rooting for her, giving her her medicines while she's still able to take them, and spooning in anything she seems to enjoy eating. I'm not sure chocolate ice cream, jelly (gello? What's the US spelling?) and cup-a-soup are ideal nutrition but quite honestly who cares. Please wish her whatever is best for her - I hope that won't be dying, but I'm trying to accept that it's not up to me.
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Bad, bad night emotionally tonight. *Really* bad. Holding it together ok in front of mom, but as soon as she's asleep, I'm down for the count. Everything just hurts tonight. Trying very hard to remember that others have it far worse than I right now, but it's hard right now.
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JUDE--love your reference to Buble wrap---yes I want Michael Buble to come wrap his arms around me!
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You are probably right flyer. I tend to put myself on autopilot a lot.
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Gershun, don't worry, you probably were just distracted. One day I found the freezer door wide open when my sig other forgot to shut it while getting out something to take to work :P
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I put the kettle on the other day. I was sitting in the front room wondering why it hadn't started whistling. Went into the kitchen, saw the stove element on but no kettle. I looked everywhere and found my kettle in the fridge. Early dementia? I sure hope not.
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Found them....in the biscuit tin but under the chocolate bisuits not on the top - very odd
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I'm no good at drinking water myself. My hubby is always getting at me about it. Probably cause I'm drinking coffee and forget that it is dehydrating.

Jude usually when I'm looking for keys after I've looked everywhere I discover I've been holding them the whole time.:)
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Oh my gosh dehydration... I have that problem, for myself, and never was good at drinking water.... now I need to start paying attention. Susan when I read your post about your Mom and possible dehydration, I went to the kitchen pantry and got a bottle of water and took it back to my computer desk. Yikes, I probably will need to get a timer to remind me to get some water :P
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Right you lovely lot where did you put my car keys? Mum swears she hasnt had them but I flaming well know she has because like a complete twit I left them on the table she uses and now? Nowhere to be seen. So far I have checked the commode (her fave place) all the hidey hole places near her, down the back of the sofa/the bed/the chair, checked all the bins - that was gross especially her disposable pad one. So come on what have you done with them!!!!!
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Jude, your words are very wise. Susan, we may not be able to totally eliminate falls, but there are things we can do. We already know about taking up rugs and keeping the walkway clear. Something else I've done is put a foam corner guard on any sharp corner that is in a possible fall area. You can put them on table corners and those sharp molding that are common in bathrooms in older houses. It won't stop the blunt force of falling, but will keep the sharp corner from doing so much damage. You can buy the corner guards on sites such as Amazon. They are made to protect babies, but they are great for older people, too. I got some of them after hitting my head on one of the sharp corners in our bath. Those corners could be a disaster for someone falling. I stuck corner guards up like a crazy person after that. The guards come with adhesive strips, so you just stick them in place. They are terrible for the paint, but I think protection is more important.
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Susan stop it woman - you will drive yourself insane. if you need to leave her then you must be able to - you have to go to the toilet for goodness sake. If you are concerned remove all items of harm and put the crash mats down put her in the bed and lower it to nearly at the floor dont put the rails up and then if she does fall she cant hurt herself. if you are worried about night time get a pressure pad for the bed and if she falls it will wake you - the beeping is loud enough hun.

Now breathe sweetheart you have the inner strength xxxxx
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CM, thinking of you today.

Thanks everyone for the kind words.
Mom is back home now. Turns out what looked like a cardiac event was most likely mild dehydration (it's SO hard to get her to drink enough) - so there's a very good chance that she blacked out from being dehydrated just enough to throw her enzymes out of whack. The doctor (whom I really don't like) claims that she must have just fallen asleep and fell out of the chair - uh NO - he wasn't there to see it. My mother was unconscious when she fell out of the chair - she remembers absolutely nothing from the time she left the chair to when she woke up on the floor. 99% of people will startle awake when they fall asleep and start to tip over - mom has *never* tipped over when she was asleep - ever - she always leans back in her chair. This was something entirely different. Her arms were loose and limp down by her sides, and when she started to lean forward, I called to her, because I thought she was reaching for something - but she continued to go forward and right out of her chair. She never once woke up, startled or tried to stop herself from falling, and her eyes were closed. That doesn't mean she *wasn't* sleeping, but she is a very light sleeper and startles awake very easily. This was not sleep, the way I see it.

Mom hasn't really been hungry all day, which is very unusual for her, but I think this fall really affected her very deeply, and she's pretty upset by it. She's been almost in tears several times as she said she didn't want this to happen again. I'm sure it scared her just as much as it did me.

We are going to look into getting a hospital bed for here in the house for mom with side rails - she slept better in the hospital with her head elevated. If her doctor won't write a prescription for one through medicare, I'll just rent one from the local medical supply myself. He's a pain - he wouldn't write her a script for a power scooter either, when she could no longer walk long distances. I bought it myself. I understand the concept that people should stay active and walk as long as they possibly can, but when they can't, they should be allowed the accommodation they need to live a relatively normal life!

Now I have to deal with my own fears - fear of leaving her alone AT ALL, even to run to the corner store for 10 minutes, fear that she will fall at night when I'm sleeping and I won't hear her, fear that this is a major step forward on the road to the nursing home (which I am very afraid that it is).
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Susan, best wishes and I hope your Mom is doing better. It really makes me look at the room differently after my Mom slid out of the bed too. I didn't even think of her hitting her head on a table etc. I hope your Mom is feeling better today and things go back to "normal" so you can get to the store again.The store is the highlight of my week. I hope you get some rest after all that....

Countrymouse, best wishes to you as well. You are all in my thoughts and prayers.

As for the topic of living to 100, this is a point of discussion a lot with my husband. We saw that article in Parade a few Sundays ago that middle aged people aim to make it to 100....they must not have witnessed what life becomes like when people hit their 90s, (or often sooner), and they talk about hiking and biking etc all up to that age....From all I have seen and heard in the last year I don't think I want to live to be 100.I don't see many people even walking at that age let alone hiking or biking...It scares me that I have relatives on both sides that are 97 and 103...they are not getting much out of life anymore.
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Susan that sounds exactly like the episode Mum had - not with such dire results I am glad to say. Do ask them to check her sodium levels just in case and big hugs. Put the TV on wall nd the rest on shelves out of her way and then cover everything in buble wrap! No not bubble wrap Buble wrap hmmm mmm honey and jam!
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CM, I'm so sorry you're going through this with your mom....thinking of you tonight and all you're dealing with.

I've been told (Dad had a pacemaker) that the pacemaker will not "keep" the heart beating - that it is only there to keep an actively beating heart in the proper rhythm. But if you are at all concerned about that, be sure to ask the cardiologist if it needs to be turned off at a certain point. I know that's a horrible thing to think about, but we all face it at some point. I'm so sorry you're dealing with all this now.
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Ok...update on mom.

Apparently she had some sort of minor cardiac event - not a heart attack - but something that was enough to make her black out, and that's why she fell out of her chair. She had a rolling hospital table in front of her chair that she uses to eat from, etc, and when she started going over, she kind of landed against it, and because it's on wheels, it just rolled with her at first and then away from her, increasing her momentum and she ended up kind of almost launching out of the chair, faster than if she had just simply fallen. She hit the entertainment center and opened up a 10" gash on her head that went right down to the skull - I could see the bone when I turned her over. I can't even begin to describe how terrifying and awful it was.

She's in the hospital for observation overnight, and then we'll go from there. Obviously, leaving her at home for any length of time now is going to be a no-go, so I'll have to have a caregiver come in if I want to go anywhere at all. I jokingly told her I was going to wrap her in bubble wrap, but on a more serious note, this living room is *definitely* getting re-arranged. I can't have her taking another header out of her chair and hitting that stupid entertainment center again. We don't have a huge amount of space in this house, but I'll figure something out. I'll get rid of my desk if I have to and find something smaller to work from, if that's what it takes to make the space we need to keep her safe. Still can't believe she hit the entertainment center - it looks to be far enough away from her chair that she couldn't possibly hit it - but she did.
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mom's door was left unlocked all night into this morning. I arrived and found it thusly---cannot figure out how. all is accounted for inside (I checked on mom first). husband went right over after work and changed the locks! later in day, I was at veterninary clinic, as one of our fluffy creatures has a mass and they did needle punch, but it is not a "fatty tumor", it appears to be a cancer. surgery on Monday......and just when I thought I was getting caught up on bills.
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SusanA43, ooooh that sounds painful for her (and for you to have to watch, and deal with the rush to hospital)!!! I hope everything will get back to "normal" soon. best wishes. I will remember you in our bedtime prayers.
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Major whine tonight. Mom was sitting in her chair and suddenly just slumped forward, hit her rolling table, which pulled her forward and slammed her head into the corner of the entertainment center.

Have been at the hospital 2 hrs now. 1O" gash over the forehead and top of her head, so deep that I could see her skull. They stitched her up right away, ran a CT scan and EKG, but are going to repeat the blood work because her EKG had some abnormalities, which is something new.

Sooooo...keep a thought in mind for us tonight if you would, please. At this point, it looks like she might have just fallen asleep and fell out of the chair, but not sure.
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((((Country Mouse))))
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Country Mouse i can't offer info just know that we are all here for you if/when the time comes. 3am here now and mums breathing is all over the place and then settles - driving me nuts too xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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I dont think thats negative - I have written an advanced directive to that effect. I truly believe meidine has a place in our lives but to try to attain immortality? At any cost? Nope not for me
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The good news is that I don't think we'll have to wrestle with the ethics of replacing or not replacing her pacemaker battery.

On the less good side, I'm not completely confident she'll make it through the night. It's getting on for half past two in the morning here, and I can't decide whether to go to bed with my fingers crossed or hang over her bedside cheering her on but then be good for nothing come sun-up. EArlier today her GP ordered her beta blocker and diuretic re-started, left me a bottle of Oramorph (we've braved a teaspoonful. So far so… nothing much), and handed me a bag of controlled drugs with instructions to lock them away or "hide them in a drawer." These last are for use by the district nurses who will be helicoptering over the weekend.

I embarrassed myself - it's the world we live in - by having been briefly cock-a-hoop to learn that the x-ray showed no signs of chest infection. I was so relieved that I haven't cacked up monitoring her swallowing that I momentarily overlooked the fact that we still have to figure out why her breathing has gone belly-up, her pulse is rocketing around from 88-130 beats per minute, and she's sweating like billy-o. The GP didn't say anything rude: if she's as experienced as she seems to be in palliative and hospice care then I expect she's used to carergivers regarding the avoidance of guilt as No. 1 Priority.

At this stage I'm not sure what it's best to wish for. On a slightly macabre point, does anyone know how you, er, "tell" when there's an active pacemaker keeping the heart going? I hope it's a premature hypothetical question.
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I've been thinking lately that with all the advances in healthcare we all could live to be 100. But is that always a good thing?

I'm considering that when I get to "a certain age" that I will refuse treatment and just allow myself to die. I don't want to be a burden to anyone and I believe if we live long enough we will all lose our faculties and therefore will need to be taken care of.

Sorry if this has already been discussed. I don't have time to reread the whole thread and sorry if I sound negative.
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Judda think yourself lucky you only have to manage the phone calls! I live with my mum and I can think of at least one place I would like to put her bell!!!! She said to me today the bell wasn't loud enough if I couldn't hear it when I was asleep - I have learned I think to sleep through it because I KNOW that if she REALLY needs me she will ring it continuously a one hit ring doesn't wake me at all any more - oops
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