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I'm new to this, so pardon me if I don't get it quite right. I retired from my job at age 66 in November of 2009 to assist my mom with my dad. He was a stroke victim and had become bed-ridden. My sister was laden with helping mom and dad, taking them to their doctor's appointments, etc., along with running a small business on the side. She did all this while I worked on my job. I had reached retirement age as things were not going so well at work, not to mention that Mom was getting more fragile each day and completely worn out so I gave my notice of retirement. Dad passed away in April of 2010 which left us to care for Mom. She did relatively well for about 3 years alone in the apartment (their house was sold prior to Dad's death). We started to notice that Mom was leaving the fire on the range too high, burning food and doing some rather strange things. My sister and I talked it over and decided to move together. We moved Mom first in June of 2013, then I moved in. Meanwhile I was going back and forth to my house to check on it and to prepare it to be placed on the market.
Things changed a lot for me, I felt confined, needing my own space and often I was left to care for mom as my sister had to spend a lot of time out of the house, making purchases, etc. (She is a seamstress). Mom would start up conversations to agitate me, mostly about my sister. She repeats herself a lot because of her early dementia. She recalls many stories about her childhood days and people I don't know and don't have an interest in. It got to be really annoying. So I did the thing that caregivers are not supposed to do. I retaliated. I argued and many times I said way too much, leaving bruised feelings on both Mom and me. It's been about a year and 1/2 since we have all been together. These days I am learning to cope and trying desperately to keep quiet. Still haven't conquered that yet. All in all, though I must say, I would rather have Mom around and do what we can to help her, than wish I had done more for her after she's gone.
Mom eats basically what she wants, but she eats. Has gained quite a bit of weight.. Her diet mostly consists of carbs, cake, cake and more cake, a very few vegetables, although she loves sweet potatoes, so that's a plus. It takes much prayer and even venting with my sister and a good friend, but we're making it work. Thank God for my sister. She's a gem. She acts as a buffer between my mom and me. It does get hard at times, I find that prayer and scripture reading helps me a lot.
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Cap the pope is not poor!!!! but bet he would like your cinnamon rolls!
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I just open the door and if I don't know them say sorry not interested !! and close the door
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i dont want to associate with a world where i cant make fun of the pope . im going to put 8 more inches of block on my bunker walls . let the world kill , riot and loot . they aint getting any of my cinnamon rolls . suckers !!
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Captain,

You said, "the pope is so dam broke hes reaching out to gays , peds , divorcees , bikers , athiests , and im pretty sure i read about him this week offering pets everlasting heavenly riches . i think that for a faithful following hed be ok with not only cremation but also a reverently executed wood chipper funeral procedure."

Wow! That's a lot of vitriol/hatred you're spewing there. You may want to re-think that based upon other recent postings of yours. I'm going to chalk this up to you having a "moment." We all have them now and then.

I'm a former Catholic with the odd addition that my mom was a former nun (she was a Dominican = a teaching order. She broke her back before taking her final vows and had to leave because she wasn't able to stand all day and teach). Anyway, I have many issues with the Catholic church. Very strong ones - probably some are stronger than yours, although different. Still, I respect those who still practice that faith.

Regarding the pet thing...I can't remember what day it is assigned, but the Catholics DO have a day in honor of St. Francis of Assisi, who was known to love animals. On that day, they have a Mass where people are welcomed to bring their pets to be blessed (no money involved). Considering all the money people spend on clothes/toys/special foods for their pets, this is a very minor thing. Best to you.
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Hi Freqflyer!

You said, "hobbesmom, thanks for the update on cremation... sounds like something I had heard but hadn't verify. I will tell my Dad but he's so old school Catholic he might not change his mind. But it is worth a try."

My response:
At the end of the day, it's what your dad wants. It's just important that you both know that cremation is allowed per his faith.
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Susan...I also have a sign..yours is much better but mine says "If blinds are closed, please do not disturb us"....and you guessed it, even if they are pulled, folks still bang on the door. I have gotten great at just letting them bloody their knuckles though ..Mama doesn't care and doesn't seem to even hear them and I just continue with whatever I am doing...but I am with you...it is a huge pet peeve of mine as well....

Mama's cold is hanging on...I have managed to get some decent nutrition in her but not as much as I'd like..but still at least she' s getting some really good z's in so she may need the good deep sleep more than food right now...she has had enough and has had her meds so just monitoring her really well...I wish I looked as pretty as she does when I am sick...
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ff, there normal answer to any problem is "well, put her in a home, sell the house and you don't have to deal with it anymore". It's just not that simple. This is also my house... I think that bothers them more... or who knows, I no longer have a clue what crawled up their ass. It would be nice to know what it is so I can yank it out though!

Veronica!! What!? How can this sort of stuff happen? What if the anxiety of reading you'd had a heart attack actually caused you to have one? oh vey... our healthcare system and it's operators really need to have a look over... these type of issues should never happen. Sorry it had to happen to you. Now, tell me what you meant about a "boy toy"? For mom or for me? :D hehe, yes I remember the ear licking incident... most days it would probably be my mother doing the licking... I've thought about a "boy toy", just being honest, I miss male companionship. Really, what did you mean about a BOY TOY? LOL!! You've got my already racing mind... racing in a racy direction :)

Personally, I love the explosive idea... It's just a sign, doesn't mean it will actually explode, but they'll get the damn drift. I have a 75 lb pittie who answers my door... she alone makes them leave with her loud BOOF BOOF little do they know, she'll just knock em down, stand on their chest and lick em to death.

Been a long rough day. Mom's in pace mode again since the wee hours of morning... I've been in clean mode and took everything of the glass TV stand to dust it, the sun was shining in the window and my big girl was lying in the sun beside me... mom paces in/out/in/out, I ask her to please sit down for a bit while I finish up the dusting, back/forth/back/forth... I get up to fluff the pillows in her chair, she stuffs her feet under the dog and says it's in the way?... and down she goes, crashes into the coffee table... no real injuries just bumped her ear a good one. I ice it and sit her in her chair... she's been up and at em ever since... This could be a long cold night (it's 20 outside) and all I want to do is curl up on the couch and watch a good ole romantic movie... sigh
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I like Veronica's idea. Well, no actual explosion, but you could rig up some speakers and a brief recording of automatic weapons fire. Or maybe a rubber snake that pops out of the mail slot.
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Susan, that sounds like a great sign! Too bad no one reads it and follows it. I have developed a standard greeting when I go to the door. Who are you witnesssing for, what are you advertising, and what are you trying to sell? Whoever or whatever it is I do not want it. Then, I close the door and lock it.
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FF - I have a "do not solicit" sign on my door that reads:

No Soliciting
If you don't have an appointment or we don't know you - DO NOT disturb us!
-No Charity
-No Food or Menus
-No Home Estimates
-No Petitions
-No Political Causes
-No Religious Appeals
-No Salesmen
We don't interrupt your work - don't interrupt ours!
No Excuses!

But apparently it is not large enough. They still knock on the door and have the gall to ignore the sign. I had one political idiot do that and insist that I should listen to his spiel because "I'm running for congress!". Great way to get my vote, buddy. The religious ones irritate the heck out of me. I have my own religion and beliefs, thank you. Don't bring yours to my door. I don't bring mine to yours. When they ignore my "do not solicit" sign and knock or leave flyers on the door, complete with a phone number, I give them a call - and it's not a friendly one. I'm polite, but tell them very firmly NOT to leave their flyers on my door.

I work from home full time and care for my mother - I do NOT have time for this crap and it's pretty high on my pet peeve list.
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Veronica, that would have scared me half to death. I probably would have had a heart attack after reading that. EEEEEKKKK!
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Big whine. My healthcare group has a web page where you can go to access test results. They sent me an email this morning to let me know I had a new test result. It was the result of my pre anesthesia EKG which I had 12/19. It said I had a heart attack. Major panic probably wrong but I am not doing the prep for a colonoscopy next Tues and being told the night before that the anesthesiologist wants more tests and my proceedure is postponed. Left a message for my PCG and she finally called back at 4pm. Contacted my cardiologists nurse and she got an order for an EKG so I went and got that and the technician said he liked his results better. He was able to catch the cardiologist who looked at it on the spot and gave a report. No heart attack and I have a copy of the EKG if I get challenged. I am pretty mad about it, They just posted that report and nobody bothered to call me to say we think you had a heart attack. There really does seem to be one level of care for Medicare and another for those with good insurance. Everyone needs to speak up for themselves and those they love.
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Why not add the doorbell is wired to explode so do not ring.
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If I hear the doorbell once more time, I am going to scream.

I am ready to put a note on my front door in really big lettering that says:

I do not need new windows.

I do not need a new roof.

The siding is doing its job, it doesn't need replacing.

The gutters are fine.

I don't need a new front door.

I don't need any trees trimmed or cut down.

I don't need my driveway replaced.

Geeze, enough already !!!!
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Jeanette how about moving a toy boy in. Just make sure he doesn't put his tongue in her ear. Remember that?
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JeanetteB, question... do your brothers feel that Mom should be in a continuing care facility?

The more I read these forums and see where there is friction among the siblings, it seems like it is one person doing all the caregiving with no or very little help from the others. Thus I wonder if those other siblings want the parent in a continuing care home, verbally or secretly thinking it but not wanting to admit it. Or being afraid they might have to help pay for the cost.

I have no siblings so I don't really know the dynamics that go on. But now I finally understand the hard feelings involved after seeing my parents not be onboard to care for their own parents, using the excuse that they lived out-of-state. I know my Mom and her sisters weren't that close after her parents had passed on and the sisters did the Caregiving.
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I am really surprised my parents Elder Law Attorney hadn't email asking if my Dad's able to think correctly because at the meeting yesterday Dad was having trouble trying to answer questions.

I know this Attorney [who is also my and my sig other Elder Law Attorney] won't have my parents sign anything that she feels they can't understand.

Dad [93] wants to place a scholarship at his alma mater which I think is great. He said the scholarship is to help his nieces and nephews.... ah, Dad, your nieces and nephews are now all over the age of 50, don't think they will want to leave home and go away to college :P.... why not have the scholarship for anyone who is interested in physics or electrical engineering?

And why not do the scholarship now instead of waiting until both you and Mom pass on. The Elder Law Attorney said she will leave that section blank so that my parents can talk more about what they wish to do. I have visions of this subject going around and around and around, and nothing solved.

On the way home from the meeting, my Dad said he and Mom should have done all this 10 years ago. Boy was he right about that.
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Here's a question I would love an answer for;

Just how would one go about even attempting to regain some sort of friendship with their siblings? Or even a cordial relationship.

I have no more hatred or hard feelings towards my brothers. It would be nice for everyone involved in somehow some of these feelings could be squashed and we all move forward in life.

When one of my brothers told me that I needed to find my own life and not depend on them for things to do (this was 18 months) ago I knew I was pretty much on my own. They forgot one important thing. I have no life and it's very difficult to start one when you are barely able to leave the house and when you do, you have 3 hours in which to "get a life".
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Captain, I do agree with you absolutely regarding hate...it seems I saw a quote one time about hating someone is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to become ill....or something similar to that. I personally know that because I am not normally a hate filled person, when I start spewing that stuff out it makes me physically sick..truly. My parents did not raise us that way for sure.

I think because of a lot of the things that happened around the time that Daddy passed over 18 years ago now, that is a huge part of why I have so much deep seeded hurt about this particular group of folks...The night before my Daddy passed, the ex SIL and her mother came to our home and literally tried to remove my Daddy and take him to the hospital against my Mama's wishes...and my brother was right in there with him. I calmly took them out in the yard and tried to just talk to them that there was nothing that could save Daddy and he did not want to die in the hospital..I told them I know it's hard and you want what's best for Daddy (not believing it but trying to maintain some reason) and the SIL told me to shut up and that she was about to whip my sorry behind all over the front yard and back....so that is the usual response I got from trying to be reasonable...and why the anger is so deep, but again, as you said, it doesn't hurt them but me, and right now all that matters is that I remain as calm and steady as I can for Mama's sake.

Yesterday's issue didn't escalate until during the course of our "talking" my brother told me I ought to be ashamed of myself and one day I would regret the way I behaved....??????????? wth?????? so he knows how to push the button and considering they have done absolutely nothing emotionally, physically or financially to help during this past three plus years, nor any of the ten years prior before Mama just needed errands run here and there and help now and then, that did it....

Ahhhh, still, I hate it when I allow my anger to come out in such an unbecoming way, because it does kind of feel like they won...but then again, as my sweet and very loving Christian grandmother used to say....sometimes you have to have war before you can have peace...I used to wonder what that meant as a kid...but I totally understand it now.... :)
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So sorry to hear of your loss Willy....prayers go out to you and your family.
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Awh gee Willy, so sorry to hear this bad news on top of the other... I hope you find it in yourself to take care of you. My heart goes out to...
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WillyJ, I'm so, so sorry for your losses. Sending you thoughts of peace and sympathy. Hugs...
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Willij...so sorry for your losses. Words don't cover your grief...but they are in heaven together.
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WillyJ...so sorry to hear of your losses.
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Oh, no, willyj. Had she been ill for long? I am so sorry that death has visited twice in such a short time. I take comfort in knowing that they've just crossed over to the other side. We miss them here, but I know they are okay.
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God bless America!!!
It's not bad enough that my wife passed on the 21st and we all were trying to find the Christmas Spirit.
What else could happen? Now my Mother has passed today at about 4:30.
What next?
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I'm behind on posts today....had a homecare agency in today to do an evaluation and set up a meet & greet with 2-3 caregivers for Mom for some respite care for me. Not sure how I'm going to swing it financially, but it's the only way I'm ever going to get to see my younger son, since I have to travel for several days to do so, and taking Mom with me is no longer an option.

Fligirl, regarding the 78-yr-old mother OP with the issues - whatever happened "years ago" that he doesn't want to discuss is obviously serious. He was hospitalized (more than once), and had a restraining order placed against him. He says mom went to court and had it changed so he could move back in with her because otherwise he had no place to go once he was released from the hospital - he keeps saying it's not a "stay away" order, because mom had it changed in the court. I'm thinking mom had it changed under duress from the OP and she changed it without his older brother's knowledge. The older brother being an attorney, I can bet he'd have stopped it if he knew. Now that the older brother *does* know what the OP is really like, and just how ill he really is - and now that older brother has control of Mom due to her stroke, he's doing what he needs to do to protect Mom - and the rest of the family - from the OP's illness and his potentially damaging actions.

And yes, I know the OP on that thread may read this. Personally, maybe I'm being harsh, but I don't care. He needs help. He asks US for it, but won't take action on any advice given to him. It's part of the illness. Nothing will get better until he gets the help he needs. He is seriously almost to the point of involuntary commitment - especially if anyone really knew what's going on there - he's keeping everyone in his life at bay, so they don't *really* know.
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I meant, it's weird knowing what the smoke is... not I weird, but then again may I is weird? hehe...
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I never really gave much thought to cremation or burial, up until my father passed. It was his wish to be cremated and spread out in the Oregon wilderness. We did just that. Now, however, that I know what cremation entails... I notice things. Like the local funeral parlor - crematorium. Some days when I drive by it I see the giant furnace stack thing shooting out smoke... I weird knowing what that giant shooting smoke is...
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