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Shawna, I meant to tell you that these sites have links to European records, immigration records, ship manifests.... I don't know where you live, but if you can give me a state, I can search for links and leave them on your wall.
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My dad was born in Sharon Penn and my mom in Gloversville NY my grandparents came from scotland and Germany i can't seem to find much on my mothers side though namely cause we don't know her grandfather's name on her moms side since grandma was adopted when she was little and we can't find my grandfather on my mom's sides father either so ..
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Shawna, I'll look for some links.

I used to tell my mother that her family must have gone into the witness protection system because I couldn't find any information on them. Then, all of a sudden, I came across one document and it led to another and another and another... No more witness protection program now. I've found out all sorts of things that make the relatives nervous.
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LOL
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Hi Everybody,
Maya-- WOW what great links for geneology. there is also a health geneology that you can keep track of. When my mom was doing our family lines, she would note the cause of death if listed on the death certificate. Cancer, Dementia, Osteoporosis etc. just adding my 2 cents.
I'm glad to have found this group when I needed the support.
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A good deal of my direct line has died from strokes, something that concerned me until I noticed that they were dying in their late eighties and nineties.

The people in my picture are my dad's parents. She was fifty-four and he was fifty-two, believe it or not. He died a couple of months after that was taken. I never knew him, but I adored her.
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maya - glad the home nurse is onto it - that other "lady" sounds like she needs an attitude job, hope the two murses can figure something out
sdpeg - welcome to the club of wise old women -you didn't make it or break it and you can't fix it - she knows how important it is - that's why she is doing it - glad u r saving your head from the brick wall (and vice versa). Wow A- that is really VERY good! What did you get on the pollyanna paper?
54 -thanks for keeping in touch - glad ur son got you in hand and the doc did too re your BP. You don't want to have a health crisis in the middle of this. Family pictures are good - , So glad hospice is helping - good to laugh and... remember to take care of you.
pegly -good to hear from you -a family health history sounds useful
shawna -now u will be on the computer even more
stormy - what's happenin'
jam how's the col today and how r u?
ladee - missing those stories of sonny watching birds and picking up sticks - you always portray such a peaceful picture with him and the opposite with marie
asg hope today is better
everyone (((((((hugs))))))
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Emjo, my time with Sonny is very peaceful.. Yesterday him and I baked cookies... lord what a mess, but we had fun.... today, he helped with the laundry.... he always helps me bring the large trash can in from the street, today he actually put it where it goes.... I praised him up one side and down the other...He has very twinkly blue eyes, and they were sparkling when he said.' I am doing better, huh?' I always praise him, even in the middle of the cookie mess yesterday....
Marie has been doing much better about not snapping at me.. for one thing I have had a change in attitude, and I am sure she senses it...I am there to take care of SONNY, if there I can do for her, well good and fine.... so she has been much nicer. If she wants to get attention, it will have to be the positive kinds..... I don't have the energy for the negativity..... so, really, no complaints about her... lately, that can change and we know it....
It was too windy today for Sonny to go out..... there is something about it being windy that bothers all the Alz. I have ever taken care of...Marie had an appt in Austin today, so I let him nap while I got the 'suzy homemaker' crap done.....
People are really nervous here.. it was a windy day that made the dead tree fall on a power line that caused the horrible fire in Bastrop.... and we have many dead trees because of the drought....so all we can do is pray and wait and see..
Sorry you are having the blues , and you know nothing is going to be different with your mom, she is receiving excellant care, and other than using you for a target, she doesn't need you sacrificing your sanity and health for a few moments of guilt..... just keep doing what you'r doing, it is working for you...... more later to everyone else.. have a major sinus headache and am going to take a nap... I want to quit working so bad....
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tired ...worried how long can i do this...unemployment runing out this month....my brother put his name on the titled
five yrs ago.... she is the main mortgage holder..there is at least 150 thousand equity in the home buyt he wont sell it.... five bedroom and he lives there alone- no kids- hes gay- he lost his job 1 month ago- dont know what to do ) :
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hi beta - did you quit work then? I can't remember your history altogether - sounds like u r between a rock and a hard place - if your bro lost his job a month ago I suppose he will be facing the same as you soon and may have to look at selling the house. Can you talk to social services about your options? Sorry you are going through such a hard time.
(((((((hugs))))) Joan

Where I live you could make quite a bit renting the rooms out but don't know your situation. Is mum living with your or is she in a home?
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ladee - prayers for the headache to go away - sinus headaches are a b*tch. Spinds lke you are having a good time witrh sonny. I can almost see those twnkly blue eyes. Don't like wind and especially in your conditions. You need a break badly!!!!
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LOL I got mom working with me on it. Now we are going to my sister Kathy's saturday cause I have to fix the mess her husband made with her computer. OY why does he just leave it the heck a lone when I tell him to so I don't have to FIX it again with the modem. Maya girl lol you got me so hooked now I am finding out things I didn't know before and got mom talking about relatives a bit. We've upped the number on our tree to about 120 and still going. I am hoping the ones I am adding ARE related its hard sometimes to figure things out but when you see a picture and it resembles your dad quite a lot then you know you are on the right track! I got the hunting thing going its cold now so maybe I'll get some hot cocoa for mom and I and shes hanging out in the computer room with me so maybe I'll set her in the other room take a break from the computer and relax as my colds still bothering me. I think I'll make blts now if my niece would pay me like she should I be over the MOON!
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Hey there everybody... Well not too much going on here. Dad goes for his throat stretch surgery(EGD) tomorrow morning @ 10. He is about to eat us out of house and home. Since he has been sick he has not eaten this much food. It's like he can't get full or something. (Jam) didn't you say something a few weeks ago about the col doing the same thing? What did the dr tell ya'll? Be glad when he gets his throat stretch tomorrow then maybe i can fix him something to eat besides potatoes. Also he is still taking the cipro for his neck infection he has got 3 more days of that and he will be through with his antibiotics. His neck is still a little red but nothing like it was. And today he was telling me that it was still sore. And i asked him where was it sore at and he was pointing around like his collarbone. So i start touching his collarbone kinda mashing it and i was saying it hurts here and he said yes then i go to the other side and do the same thing and he said that side hurt too but not as bad as the other side. I told sis about it and i asked her; do you think the infection has gone to his bones or to his collar bone and she said i don't know but i was thinking the same thing. I said you think we need to call the lung dr and ask him if that is a possibility. So she said yes. I tried calling the nurse but just got her answering machine but i left a message for her to call me back. Maybe she will tomorrow. Dad kept wanting me to put something on it i guess to make it quit hurting. I put lidocane gel on it several times today but i don't think it was doing any good. I was wondering about maybe aspirin cream. Any of ya'll have any suggestions what we could put on it?????? Love and (((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))stormyyyyy
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stormy......yes the col was eating like there was no tomorrow. The doctor didn't say anything other than "you've gained 14lbs"....I figure at 87y/o she's earned the right to eat as long as it's healthy food. We had to put a stop to 17 slices of bread in one day, or 18 small packages of Pringles in 3 days. But she is now starting to taper off. So after I just bought a whole new wardrobe of larger clothes, she will end up back in the smaller sizes.
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Stormy, Jo, thanks for answering my last post. You are two sweet girls. Stormy I hope everything is Ok with your father tomorrow. I am very sad and confused but I am having good support from my friends here, and my mother is cooperating with being an angel these days. She is so good that tonight I gave her a good cake with some alcohol in it. She wouldn' t eat anything but cakes, if I allowed her to do so.
Thanks for caring. I really appreciate it.
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Ros- I am thinking about you girl. I know it hurts. Take it one day at a time. That's about all you can do right now. Wish i had more advice for you to ease the pain that you are feeling now. I am glad that your mom is being a sweetie through all of this. And your mom has good taste I love cake too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))) across the miles. Love ya stormyyyyyyyy
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Well, Jam dad has been eating like this for about 3 weeks now and his last drs. visit was about a week an a half ago and he had lost 4lbs.
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I received a gift in the mail today from a friend I know from FB (never met her but she is such a good friend). It is one of those nicknacks, is a mirror and there is a saying on that mirror. This is what it says:

"A friend knows the song in your heart, and can sing it back when you have forgotten the words."

I pray I am that kind of friend to my Mom and I pray you all are that kind of friend to your parent, spouse, child, loved one, the one you care for.

I just had to share this with all of you tonight.

Good night!

I deeply appreciate the friends I have here!

SDPeg
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Well last nite i was looking on facebook and one of my friends on there has some chorkies (chihuahua and yorkie) breed puppies. They can't be more than a couple of weeks old still nursing from the mama. I WANT ONE!!! They are sooo cute. I have always wanted a small breed dog. And i was wondering if any of ya'll know if that would be a good dog to get for connor. His birthday is coming up in nov. and i think that would be sooooo cool to get him a little puppy for his 5th birthday. Plus i could carry the puppy to dads and let dad play with him. Dad loves little dogs and it about killed him when he lost the little chihuahua that him and mom had. They were really attached to one another. I just don't know if cliff will let me get one. That will be the hard part. Trying to convince him to get one. So what do ya'll think? A good dog to get for connor????? Now ya'll let me know ok. I will be checking in today to see what ya'll write. Post back......... Hugs to all stormyyyyyyyyyyyy
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I wrote this poem yesterday which I need to hear and heed myself.

Barnacles and the Tragedies of Life

Barnacles are like the tragedies of life.
On a wooden ship they destroy its life.
Those who run into them are diced.
Barnacles can shipwreck your or another’s life.

Ever hear that hurt people, hurt people too?
How can this not be true of me and you.

Difficult to do in the middle and after a painful crisis.
Refuse to feel the pain and anger of being diced.
End up numb and dumb just like ice.

To forever nurse the pain,
Leads to never being free to love again.

We cannot chose to be or not to be hurt by the barnacle like tragedies and people in life.
However, we can chose not to let those experiences make us like a barnacle in another’s life.

To be or not to be a barnacle is the question for tonight.
To feel hurt and anger, but sin not is a difficult fight.

However, it is the biblical way to a better day.
Yet holding on to it and nursing it digs a dark and dreary day.

We do this as if it will somehow accomplish something.
But honestly, that choice accomplishes nothing.
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I need some advice, folks.

Yesterday, I had a cousin's stepson --- he cuts the grass here --- start asking me about some of my father's belongings that were finally returned to us after many years. My father had left them in his mother's care when he was newly divorced from his first wife and was going back and forth overseas in the military. After my grandmother died, they simply disappeared and when we asked about them, we were told that no one knew what had happened to them. Well, that was a lie. My aunt and uncle simply decided that they wanted their kids to have them and so, they were tucked away out of sight. After my aunt and uncle died, my cousin began to run her mouth to some of the other cousins and when she hacked them off, they told me who had my father's things.

I gave this cousin chance after chance to tell me that she had them, but she didn't. Finally, I confronted her about them. She'd given some of his things to her grown demented stepson and even gone so far as to put leave one of my dad's things in her will to her crackhead son.

The stepson actually demanded to know where something of my dad's was because the cousin had given it to him and then, when I confronted her, had to go and get it back. My dad got these things while he was overseas in the fifties and they should have been returned. Frankly, they're nicer things than any of the alcoholic cousins would ever own, they thought that they were entitled to keep them. I had to actually contact the authorities and initiate an investigation before cousin would produce them. I told her stepson that it wasn't his business where they were, that in reality, my dad's things were basically stolen and hidden from him and that NO ONE outside of his widow and children even had the remotest claim on them, period.

I am so hacked off. I want to call the cousin and do some screaming at her. I feel like I shouldn't even be asked about what was done with my father's possessions because they didn't belong to anyone EXCEPT my father. Am I out of line or was he? And should I tell him to never step foot on this property again?
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I am not sure what to tell ya Maya... I haven't been in that situation... though with idiot sister I had a similar problem sort of. When they lived as in low life scum nephew and nutcase that he married. We ended up losing a lot of our stuff (as in they stole it) TV my moms tree ornaments decorations that go on the sideboard in our family Christmas is like huge so we go all out so we had a lot of stuff that mom and dad collected over the years and it mysteriously went missing. Pictures of me as a child *were torn to pieces and thrown in the garbage* my moms winter coat things my sister made for my mom and I for easter... broken into pieces stuff they had no right touching in the first place. We got our ornaments back and most of the Christmas stuff. But things that will never be replaced are gone... I guess thats why though we are talking to them agan (barely) I don't think we will ever be buddy buddy to them like we once were.
I think I would have to say that he has no right to ask and he was out of line its not his stuff its not his father and he's not even remotely connected to anyting to do with your father period. Its YOUR father's things not his. The screaming at the cousin won't do much but cause more strife but scream if you feel the need to. YOu should have never been asked what happened to your father's possessions. My dad's possessions what we have of them are in a tote... My idiot brother has his statues he collected we have one painting he used to do my sister Kathy has the rest. my niece has his pipe. My mom has his color guard vest but we don't have any of his medals as they were lost a long time ago and i am not sure how to go about getting them ...
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Shawna, I got my father's medals replaced. You need to contact your congressional representative. They will help you with ALL the paperwork. It takes about a year once the request is made and approved to receive them because there is a backlog, but they WILL do it and do it for nothing.

Do you have a copy of your dad's service record? Did he receive VA benefits or military retirement? If you already have his service record, it's even easier.
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And when you get them replaced, keep them for YOU. Don't even think about sharing with anyone else.
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first stormy - don't know chorkies but googled them and they are the cutest!!! Looks like they have a pretty good temperament for children too as long as the kid isn't rough with them - is Connor good with pets? I hope the stretching goes well toay -not sure anyone knows why they eat like that
cmag - very nice poem and worth a reread
maya -what a loser!!! - seen it happen before -people get greedy - agreed they have no right to your dad's things - and you do. I don't think u r out of line, I think he is - families----ugh!!!! If you need him to cut the grass maybe better to not tell him off - if you don't - whatever u want to do. Glad u got ur father's things back. They belong with u and your mum. Wish I could see your pics better - my eyes are not as good as they were.
wrestling with family stuff myself - not mother and sis so much but the effects of the toxic relationships I have with them on relationships with extended family members - The older ones who knew what mother was like have pretty well all died and I would rather not lose contact with all close to my age - but - could happen as the cr*p gets spread around. I think it is called character assassination.
sdpeg - what a nice thing for your facebook friend to do "A friend knows the song in your heart, and can sing it back when you have forgotten the words." - good one
ros - u r welcome -know u r hurting and missing Nickie-
shawna - sorry u lost stuff from your dad and family stuff too - the worst seems to come out of some people at these times
lunch out with my daughter today and gotta get that tax review looked after
have a good day everyone♥
jo
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I have a copy of his discharge papers Honorable discharge and unfortuantly no he didn't recieve VA benefits or the retirement he was a Seaman first class in ww2 He was in for his four years ... and then got out and married my mom. What is funny is he lied about his age (but then a LOT of them did back then) to get into the navy with his buddy. My dad was a diver he used to disfuse the mines and had to use those HUGE diving suits with that whole heavy metal helmet (you know like in that movie A few good men (I think it is) to retrieve bodies and such. He rode on corvettes if you know what those are they are really small ships and he had his picture in TIme Life with a dog ... which I don't have a copy of that neither does mom my sister took the original I would LOVE to have a copy of that but don't think thats ever gonna happen.
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You know, you might be able to find a copy of the picture in their archives. Google them for the address to write to. There might be a charge for the picture, but most magazines have the ability to retrieve them.
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I hope so. I would love to have that picture and it makes me mad that most of my siblings have a copy of that picture and my idiot sister has the original. :(
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Seemeride: I have a piece of advice for you, and for the rest of us, that some one gave me years ago. I used to pray for patience all the time. I was married to an alcoholic and had a child who suffered with ADHD. I needed a lot of patience, I thought.

My friend was horrified when I made the comment that patience was what I wanted her to pray for me. She pointed out that for as long as I'd praying for patience, I had been dealing with one "trial" after another! She was right.

So, she suggested I pray for Joy, Happiness, Humor, Peace, Friendship, anything but Patience. I did. And it lifted my spirits. It didn't make the trials stop, but I began to appreciate the little bits of "light" and "light heartedness" I found in my world.

Thanks for reminding me of this. You are a blessing to me today, thank you. I need to find some "light" in my day as I am, like you, coping with my mother's dementia. So I am praying for your peace and mine, too!
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Shawna, does it tell anything about awards and decorations that he earned? And does it list a service number for him? My dad had a service number originally, but they switched to his social about a decade before he retired. If it does, you're got what you need to request the medals. All it takes is filling out a form and providing them with a copy of that.
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