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ladeeda, no, I did not make any allowance for a day bed in my "Man Cave" I'll have to do something about that.
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Hey gang everything is going okay here. Not a lot of fuss and muss. Gearing up for the holidays and found out sister might be here for more than a day or two for Thanksgiving. Which is good it gives me time to relax chill out and enjoy company. Sis jeanne that is. Still not sure what the heck is going to be going on Saturday. When Idiot sister and low life nephew show up or not or call whateva. I am not holding my breath about that I can tell you. SIster Kathy is in a good mood since the baby was born so thats good. Have not talked to niece just yet .. will see her sunday when I give her new plaque. HOpe its fine if its not well up hers.... I won't put myself out there again. ON a good news point I have another order for a mug and two water bottles YIPEE and looking foward to selling stuff on teh 19th. Mom is going with and my sis. So we will see what happens then. Though I am getting a bit stressed as I am trying to eat and mom keeps calling me AGHHH....
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Mis my mom still goes to bathroom but she always wears pads during day..when we go out she uses pads and diaper..at night the same and she had a pad under her..just in case.
Now dad is a different story..we chance him through the night..undershirt and all ..hasn't mattered what kind of diaper we use at this point. He calls us in thenight but as he is calling us he is going...oh well. Same during day but at least it stays in diaper. At night he is on one side or the other ..... Water water everywhere and not a drop to drink!!!
Jam...sorry col is sticky ..hope she gets over soon. Hope session goes well today. We have same problem with hearing aids here..just have to check and clean every day. Course even then one of dads ears is about deaf and with weight change has changed ears..ack...never ending.
Well emotions between me and mom were high yesterday.. My brother is coming with one of his kids and her family for thanksgiving. They are coming in that morning and leaving early Sunday morning..... Moms upset that I haven't said anything about it .... One...bro hasn't said anything to me..calls parents instead..then she figures I will leave when they get here..but she thinks I should stay here ...in so many words.. I told here that when they got here that I would leave as I needed to have some time...she thinks we all should be a family..my bro wants to know if his other daughter and my kids are coming too...again he needs to talk to his other daughter and then ask me about my kids...which they all have to work and live away as well and where does he think they have money to travel. Anyway I told mom that I would have food ready before I left and that my kids can't come...I sware I absolutely hate being the responsible one! Finally talked to my brother as I had to text him and beg to find out when they were coming etc...told him he needed to talk to me before he sets mom off worrying about everything... He still didn't get it! Did tell him when he got here..I was leaving and I would be back befor they left Sunday morning..
Mom didn't really say much to me after that yesterday..what am I supposed to do??? I love my folks so very much have given my wants up for theirs..hubby only one working..we can't even get away a couple do days by ourselves together... Know in her mind she realizes all this or at least I thinks so...my brother doesn't have a clue!!! Doesn't he realize she is 91 and has always fretted to make sure all goes well..who will sleep where food for all etc etc...little ms Emily Post. I am the one stuck telling her all will work out..giving her answers that calm her down..
Well today will just be better..I will refuse to act like it is a problem...cuss cuss cuss cuss...
Gotta get dad moving as therapy is coming this morning..may have to cancel as he said a little while ago he didn't feel good...
Hope everyone has the best day possible..God keeps us all in His cocoons wrapped with unconditional love we just have to let our worries go..........love love
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Vic, sorry you are not going to get a few days away without a hassle, and bro is not helping the situation by lack of communication..... it really doesn't matter if your brother gets it or not.... you have to take care of yourself, how about next time she gets upset over something to do with your brother, you dial his number and hand her the phone... here mom, ask him, I really don't have the answers to your questions, not done in an ugly way, but if he upsets her, then let him deal with all the anxiety...... and yes you will make it a good day for them... because that is who you are, a beautiful, loving daughter.....hugs and more hugs to you this morning.....
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Good Morning Posse!

Just checking in since I was dragged out of a deep sleep by a dog who decided to take an unexpected trip down the stairs into the bathroom. Normally blind doggie will stay away from those stairs....too wide to put a gate across. But she always stays upright and I find her standing there wagging her tail like "gee that was fun....".

How does the saying go...."you always hurt the one you love"....something to that effect. I think that is what happens with the care giver/care receiver relationship. We are supposed to become superhuman and do everything, know everything, and it's all our fault when something isn't right. When I was caring for the col she had a habit of always saying when I took her to the bathroom "it's not my fault, I have in-con-ti-nence"...yes pronounced like that and I would always tell her I realized it wasn't her fault and someday I would be there also and I hoped someone care enough to help me. Substitute can't walk, can't hear, whatever the limitation. But I usually ended up being the "bad guy" no matter what the situation. Target could be the one to tell her no, but I am the one she took things out on.

When we left the NH yesterday, Target commented that he could see a marked decline in her mental status. I could also, but I'm hoping it had to do with her voice. She said she felt okay and I was dealing with a wee bit of guilt about the fact that she has stayed very healthy for 2 yrs and now this. I have to keep reminding myself of the benefits she is getting there as compared to here. And of course she isn't going to get one-on-one there all the time. We found her sitting in the main area just looking around. Wasn't playing Bingo although she told us she had played and even won a prize. At least she is not holed up in her room doing nothing but watching tv.

Will let everyone know how the care plan meeting goes today. And Target agrees that the col shouldn't be there for this one.

Hope it's a good day for everyone!

Love and Hugz,
Jam
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((((((vic)))))) -glad you are sticking to ur guns and gettng away. Yeah, the big family occasion! My mother worries like that too and wants every event to turn into a BIG family occasion -and that does not work for everyone always. I have done it many times at some expense to us - travelling and staying of hotels for what - a usually tense time, a few meals etc. and at least one blow up if not worse - mother's "boy friend" making a pass at my oldest son. Not doing it anymore unless it works for me. My mother and my sister do that indirect communication thing too, which always gets fouled up and guess who gets into trouble for that?. I, like you, am very direct and say "until I have heard it from her..." -not that it works very well. Take a few -lots of deep breaths and know that u r getting some well earned time off! what ladee says is good
shawna -glad things are going well - mum seems to be in great form
ros -what did the govt tell you? What a mess!!! and such a beautiful country!!!\
jam - hope things go well today. I know u will let us know. Please let go of the guilt -without an eval u really don't know how her mental status is and u were noticing a decline before she moved - our middle names should be target!
cmag -hand in there - write another letter if you have to and burn it too
maya - how r u doing with POA etc?
tpeg - sounding good
mis -such nice pics of grandma
stormy - so sorry about your bro but sounds like it is manageable - just one more thing to worry about, I know. lil red will have a great b'day party!
seeme -babies everywhere and mil for a short while... and puppies are coming!!! - will you breed them?
sdpeg - lots of assignments now I bet -hope your car in on rthe road and good for a while
bee - yay -your eyes will be fixed soon. is that the end of the surgery? Your mum sounds about as stubborn as mine
everyone else - keep n touch
mamadrama here -mother is still using her walker though she had her surgery in June - selective hearing and picks up on one thing and won't budge. the doctor is going to have to be very specific about telling her it is time to walk without it. She says because she needs the walker she can't fix her meals and she won't use the dining room. Her meals are very simple -really warming or cooking stuff in the microwave, or opening cans and bottles and I am sure she is capable of doing that but with the BPD she "needs" to be treated a cut above everyone else and loves havng people wait on her, only this particular aide was not doing it right. Elder abuse!!!! After her gallbladder op I went down and stayed a while and she asked me to cook pork chops and lamb and al kinds of rich things. I told her that she should not eat such rich things so soon after her op but she said that no one told her different and I wasn't there all the time so I don't know what she was told, but I do know that rich food after gall bladder surgery is not a good thing. However she insisted and then got herself some picked herring for supper, The next morning -which happened to be Christmas morning this apparition in a white nightie walked into my bedroom about 6 am, woke me up and said. "I just threw up", I said I think the food you have been eating was too rich. She says "I have to go to hospital": I said I don't think that is a good idea (Like how is going to be in the emergency of a large down town hospital on Christmas morning) and you just need to eat blander foods. But again she insisted so off we went and, predictably there were street people hanging there, and people with flus etc. I was hanging onto my purse and expecting to be hit up for money. Managed to get a cup of coffee from the machine and mother sat there - upright in a dressy long black coat with a red scarf -looking healthier than anyone. She finally let me call her doctor at 8 am who said that was not a good place for her so we went back home. Merry Christmas! Then we got home and she told me I had to go back to the hospital as she had left one of her good gloves there. I asked if she had checked her coat pockets and her purse and she said yes. So I double checked them -and - guess what - found the glove. These things may not seem like much but a life time of games like this and worse is very wearing. I thank God for the psychiatrist who told me i was normal but mother and sis weren't. These things are crazy-making.

no moose this trip but a stolen back pack with lots of expensive gear in it - getting the doors winterized - need some weather stripping etc and I have launched into the wonderful world of gluten free pastry baking - cakes etc are not too difficult but pastry!!! - oh well -call it an experiment -still working on this batch!
love, hugs and prayers ♥♥♥
jo
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ladee - how;s your new neighbour - keep your caregiving to the ones who pay!!!
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Emjo.- Well, I hope so. This sclera lens is the least invasive means to bring me back to "normal". After I get the lens, I should be able to get glasses for driving. If the lens doesn't work I'll have to have some sort of a stem cell procedure which will be a lengthy "cure". Hope I don't have to go there! Thanks for asking! Bee
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Hope it works too - it would make such a positive difference to your life
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"When we are no longer able to change a situation... We are challenged to change ourselves"
~ VIKTOR FRANKL

Food for thought.
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It is snowing!!!! yee ha! snow angels!!!
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Absolutely! Victor Frankl was a triumphant survivor. I find the changes I have to make are often not the ones I want to make.
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I am told I am mean loud abrasive hard...this all from dad. Mom says he is not wellspring be kind... What!? It would be so much easier not to push and help him to help himself etc....it would be a lot less emotional on me. Jam I hear ya but it isn't working I know in my head I am just the fall guy but ya know it has gotten old. Tired of being the bad guy. Dad says he wants to be better...so I tell him step by step. I get louder as he doesn't respond and I think he doesn't hear me..then I get yelled at for yelling need to tape my mouth with duct tape so I don't respond...the tears are flowing.but of course it is all my fault, I should be bigger than that..I should be more compassionate...
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should NOTHING vic ((((((hugs))))) - you are none of those things except maybe loud because you have to be to be heard or it is some kind of a game -
being the fall guy (gal) gets very old and it very tiring. some people are kind even when they are not well - not sure that is a good excuse, though I may eat those words some day -

vic - how about just letting some of that go - is all of this really improving dad's quality of life that much - it sure as heck isn't helping yours and you count as much as he does - sorry, dad, but that is true. Maybe time to reassess what you want vic. yes, your wants count here too. You are a very compassionate lady being pushed to and beyond her limits -probably largely the situation but sounds like some personality stuff going on beteen you and dad. he is likely frustrated with his condition and who does that come out at? You. You don't need it vic and have enough of a burden as it is, Can you detach a bit, figure out what you can and can't do and make some changes? Some things may just have to be let go. it is a down hill ride for all of us - don't I know it and feeling it myself sometimes, but you can only fight it so much - some of it you have to keep up with and some of it you need to let go and let God. ((((((hugs))))) amd prayers for you today - look after you, put you first more often, I have had toi develop a tough skin against the criticisms - took me a lot of years - know the tears you are having when you have done and are doing your very best and then get cr*apped on
luv ya
jo
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EmJo, I agree with what you said to Vic. I had to ask myself that question: where does my desire to care for my mom stop so that I can be healthy? I posed that question in a similar fashion to her doc and she and I came up with a plan. The plan wasn't followed very well by mom but we negotiated and that's about all one can do. I hired a second care giver because mom won't go to social group here in town (free). I set boundaries with what I will and will not do (like I feel a cold comin' on, I won't run around this weekend with her for that reason and I have a test on Monday, thank God sister will be in town to do that ~ nice coincidence huh?). I advocated for her to check and recheck meds and how they are working. I asked doc and nurses what my mom can be doing so that I am not running around doing so much . And I also asked my therapist for ideas. Bottom line: if I don't take care of me, who will? And if I am not healthy, what happens to mom?
There are days she can't remember which clothes to put on in the morning and asks me to help her. I was taking clothes off the hangers and handing it to her, now just point to where her clothes ALWAYS hang. I have to remember, the more I do, the more is expected. Mom also reminds me that her father and my Dad treated her like a princes to which I reply: "I am not your father and I am not your husband." Sounded cruel the first few times I said it, but it got easier.
I don't have a wandering mom nor is she incontinent but she does know what buttons to push, it is up to me on how I choose to respond to her behavior toward me.
Counseling helped me as much as mom's meds are helping her.
Vic, take care of you ... ok?
SDPeg
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sdpeg - good changes - little things like the clothes on the hangers can be real or can be a game - in either case pointing at them is better than taking them off yourself - and it saves a a little more of you for you. Absolutely agree - the more you do the more is expected and, i will add, the less it is appreciated

vic - may be a good idea to talk to the doc and lay some of this out and ask advice. You are giving and giving up a huge amount each and every day - too much it seems to me - there is a law of diminishing returns -after a point you get little benefit for what you put into something

I have found with mother a lot of it is wants not needs and IMO it is the needs we have to address and the wants only so far as we are able and can still look after ourselves. They may not like it but a little distance and detachment helps.

(((((hugs))))
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Yea I know you all are right. Have been trying to get dad to give up therapy but he says he wants it.. But if it is a continuing fight to put into practice what benefit is it for him. I have seen a real difference in his physical and his communication...but I am so emotionally tired. And yeah he is just lashing out when he says things ... But it still hurts. He has never been one to give up and what he says and then what he tries to do are different.
Am better..will just go through the motions and do the best I can. Get outside and go to my house in between potty breaks etc... Tomorrow is day off ...woohoo can't wait.
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Vic.........something I haven't seen here yet today.....YOU ARE HUMAN! You are entitled to be worn out, mentally a mess.....cry your heart out! Girl, don't you realize you have been doing the work of more than 1 person each and every day? How long can you go on before you break? emjo is correct.....just how long are we expected to be the "fall gals"? Loud and abrasive? We have to be loud or we would never be heard. Sometimes my throat would be sore from having to yell because every single word I uttered was met with "what did you say"? And I would look at the col and ask if she had her ears in. So sometimes I think she must have been doing that on purpose. Don't beat yourself up......you are not responsible for Dad's mental and physical decline..........that comes from TMB....(too many birthdays) Think about where you are going to be 5 yrs from now with all the lifting and moving you are doing now? There are ways to still care for your parents without killing yourself in the process. And emjo is also very wise about making changes. My long-term goal was to keep the col in her own home until she drew her last breath. We all know how that has changed. I wake up every day not really knowing exactly how the day will go and how it will end because something always happens to change it. It took a fall for Target to realize that the col's decline was such that she needed more help than we could provide. That certainly wasn't how I felt when I awoke that morning, but by the end of the day her time of living alone was over. And I'm still not over the care giving part yet. I catch myself at 10pm (bedtime) thinking it's time to put her to bed. Someone needs to slap me....lol. We care about you Vic and don't want to see you end up in seeme's spa...........at least without one of us with you...:)

Time to leave for care plan meeting......will let y'all know how it goes.
Who got the COW PATTIE?

Love and Hugz,
Jam
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bee -
cow pattie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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eewwwww...I stepped in it! lol
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oh no bee, it's not something you step in , it's a prize for sticking around, sorry, our budget does not allow for good stuff like trips and jewelery, but it is always a cow pattie full of love...... love ya, and congrats..... hugs to ya.
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Honestly now, how many other places could we go and tell our stories, vent, cry, laugh and share and get a cow pattie,,,,,, damn we are special.......
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You guys are great..thanks all for the support you give me. Have been as calm as possible today dealing with parents..until I heard mom and my bro talking acting like I caused "not having a nice family thanksgiving" ...then I heard him say...just dont say anything out loud that you are worried..she called saying you were all upset..and she said not I am fine ...I didn't have the duct tape! Damn!! After she got off the phone ..I told her I am out of it and I am not going to listen to her be upset anymore..that she can call brother... I told her my life is caring for them and if he wants to play games he can play them with her. I am out of it
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Sorry.. I am letting drama take over.. Eek... Not me! ........ Nuf said
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No vic, you are not letting the drama take over - you are taking over the drama. Good for you. Like jam said u r human! Join the crowd. The trouble with laying down is that people use you for a floor mat.. You count!!! let them sort their own troubles out . When my sister stayed with mother, mother would say to me -"well if we have a fight, she can take the bus and stay with you." My answer was "No she can't - If you two cannot get along she can stay in a hotel like i do when I visit you." I am not the garbage can to take the refuse and the left overs. If my sister wants to visit me she can communicate directly with me. You know to this day and, we are both in our 70s, she never has - it is always through mother and my answer is the same. Correction - years ago, I did allow it once, but never again. She hogged the TV, and expected me to wait on her though I was working. When we visited her, we took them all out for a meals, payed for groceries. and helped in the kitchen. I couldn't even get my hands on the remote when she was here and had to give her a decent dressing gown to wear because I had teenage sons in the house! Aaaaargh - siblings ! Water under the bridge now!
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It's not drama, it's saying NO.... nuff said...
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Well, this has been an eventful day. Made the decision this morning to sell my car....a friend that I used to work with called and bought it five minutes, if that long, after I mentioned it on FB. So now I get my new vehicle....:)
The care plan meeting went well. Not a whole lot to say or cover. Occupational therapy is about finished with the col. Physical therapy goal is to get her walking without the aid of her walker. Good luck with that since she told me today she feels so much safer with it. I let them know they should be a little more aware of hearing aid batteries dying and they said they normally watch that, and I said I would help keep on top of it. One of the social workers said she noticed the other day that the col had the same clothes on that she had the day before. She (sw) immediately went to find out why and instructed the girls that she is to be directed to change her clothes each day, not put back on the same thing. I told them that her habit for years has been to hang the clothes she takes off on the post of her bed and then put them back on. She used to yell at me when I put her in jammies and put her clothes in the basket to be washed. I also made sure they got her hair trimmed today. And we also had to change doctors for her. They have to have an evaluation every 60 days and her doctor would prefer that we take her to the office and I think it's rather ludicrous to pay $200 just for a simple look at her every 2 mo, so we changed. It's fine, the new doctor is also a friend and was the doctor my mom used and will see her in the nh. So that was pretty much the extent of the meeting. Oh, and they also understand to NOT tell her she will not be dismissed soon by the doctor.
So, now I hope everyone has had a good day, and for those whose day started bad, I hope it's ends great!

Love and Hugz,
Jam
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Loving you guys for listening...
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and we love you for sharing....
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That's why we're here Vic...............
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