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Vic, I don't know haow you have done what you have......cannot imagine taking care of 2.....cannot imagine taking care of a second....period. After 2 months I am still mentally exhausted. Last night I slept for 12 hrs, but I am feeling emotional about the fact mom couldn't hang around for 2 more mos to see 3 more great grandchildren, but what would have been the point. Just draining. And I was the one who picked out mom's clothes and dressed her from head to toe every day, sponge-bathed her butt every morning, dumped the bedside commode, sanitized it, fixed her hair, set out her pills, made breakfast, made/changed her bed, usually before I even had a shower, much less caffiene...........and you have TWO!!!!!!!

Jam...now they know what you expect and maybe you can feel easier about the situation.....she IS where she needs to be.........

Gonna take a shower now......before noon!!!
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Vic - hang in there girl. You know you are here, in good company, with faithful friends who support and don't judge.

I haven't been here that long but I've found more support here than with my friend whom I've known for more than 30 years. She doesn't get it.

We're in these situations not by choice and each case is different, yet similiar.
It's okay not to like it and to blow off steam. I hope you cry sometimes when you are typing. It makes it hard to read what you've typed, but the tears are like a soothing balm for your soul. Don't be afraid to be human - 'cause you are!

Put your right hand on your left shoulder. Put your left hand on your right shoulder. Now give a warm squeeze. That's me, hugging you. (((Vic))) Carolyn
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I hig the "submit" too soon. Jam, I am happy to hear you had a good meeting! Basque in the moment! We don't get too many of them. lol
Carolyn
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Jam I am happy that you had a good meeting about the col. You did all you could for her and now she is in a place that is safe and happy. Mom used to have a hearing aid that was my grandmothers ... with all the moving in the last five years from my sisters to me to the new apartment it got lost along the way. So we got her the headphones you see on TV. It helps ...though we do have to repeat ourselves sometimes. That and she can read lips REALLY good. Also glad your getting your new car ... good for you. It is hard to see them decline the way they do. Mom went from dressing herself to not being able even put her own pants on. She can put her shirt on with help. Yet she took her own blood sugar the other day.
Vic I am not sure how the heck you do it woman. I just have mom....and that’s enough to make me insane some days. Your brother sounds like he's a major instigator. Don't let him ruin YOUR thanksgiving. He sounds a lot like my idiot brother who never comes to see mom AT ALL. He also sounds like my nephew who loves to stir the pot. He tried to get my sister Jeanne and I to fight and even caused our idiot brother to call my sister Jeanne while at my sister Kathy's and start yelling at her. Sis stood up to him and said she didn't need to deal with his bull crap .. told him to shut up and hung the phone up on him. Idiot nephew .. likes to say something then tell the person not to say anything... okay.. yeah that’s NOT gonna happen. You enjoy your holiday... Vic you are NO have not ever been the bad guy you are doing the best you can with what you have. I know it sometimes feels like you never do anything right know that feeling oh so well You do what you can and you still feel like its your fault if things don't go right. Jo's right, is all this really doing all that much for your dad you know the answer in your heart. I do the same with mom I make her do her exercises watch what she eats. The list goes on … when she don't want to do something like go out or eat this or that. I won't force her my sister Kathy tells me she has to do this or that. I want to look at her and say and do YOU live with her and her attitude when she gets like that NO! …. Vic honey you are not superhuman … and you do have feelings so if you want to scream cry do so. I did the other day believe me I felt GOOD. Though my upstairs neighbor stuck her nose into it my next door neighbor (who takes care of HER mom) told her to butt out. Don't you hate siblings that like to play games or even other relatives. Well idiot nephews gonna find out that this lady don't play games anymore you guys gave me the guts to say NO more when it comes to him.
Seem congrats on the babies don't it feel good to be a great aunt you can spoil them rotten then send them home YAY lol.
Ros what a mess to deal with the taxes. I hope you get a break soon. Huggs
Ladeeda, girl what can I say to you. I love you girl. You inspire me every day … and I hope you catch a break yourself soon. You are a wonderful person who lets me vent out talk about anything and everything. You gave me the courage to do a lot of crap and argue with my family. I hate that you are going through a lot of crap with your son. If there was a way for me to help you besides a willing ear let me know. I wish I could head to Texas and just give you a great big bear hug. You girl are more like my sister than my idiot sister is.
Oh for the one thing you said .. you are right. And I used that tonight with one of my siblings well she's my niece she wanted a mug tonight … I told her she and the rest of the family were going to have to start paying full price because I can't keep cuting them deals. I am a business woman now I am not doing this as a hobby as damn I have to pay taxes and state taxes every three months. It's a business and you are right. Thanks god I got a ledger to write everything down to keep track. She threw a fit when I told her and I told her point blank that well if you don't like the price go somewhere else but I can tell you you won't find anything like I make for you. She got angry but still took me to the store to get stuff I needed.
Not much going on with me today. Just a very cold blach day. Mom was good though she wanted me to sit in the living room with her so I curled on the couch we watched tv and hung out. My cold's doing a lot better though mother nature won't leave me alone. I talked to Bobbie the one that is running the Workshop and got some good news I don't have to drag any of my tables with me they have tables and chairs so we are good there. I still have to bring my heat press though I almost had a scare with it last night. Thought it had broke cause it wasn't starting. Come to find out it was just the breaker down stairs whoo. Though I hate spiders and I had to go down in the basement by the box and click it. Shudder yuck yuck YUCK!. I had gloves and was completely covered mom laughed at me lol though. She's doing good showed me she could do her own sugar reading this morning long as I set the strip in the monitor as the lancet is like a pen and she can click it and hold it there. So proud of her for that. It was snowy and wet here today. None of it stayed though as the grounds not cold enough yet. But I know its coming. Mom can't wait till Sunday to see Austin Jacob and hold him. Its all she talks about she also heard me talking to my sister Jeanne about idiot nephew coming tomorrow. Not so happy about that and he's bringing his buddy and his giflriend (buddies girlfriend) they call mom Grandma or feel like she is. She don't even know who the heck they are really. I mean we met them ONCE!. I am not looking forward to it at ALL. But I am putting my foot down tomorrow I really am. There will be no mention of the dance outfit .. or anything else. I really don't want them here but I won't be like my cousin who forbids her sister from seeing their mother. I won't do that but it don't mean I have to stand by whiel they act like complete idiots and make mom uncomfortable. I have a feeling they are gonna tell her they cant give her anything for Christmas this year as times are tight. (yep whatever stop buying crap for your lazy low life son and tell him to take a bath and get a job!) LOL my sister Jeanne said they picked the WRONG weekend to come visit as when mother nature visits I turn into cranky beotch lol Oh well. In other news plaque is done will be giving it to niece on Sunday. IT came out okay … its nothing fancy fancy.. just green with a frog a butterfly and a faded dragonfly … with name date of birth time of birth weight and how long he was thats it. Also got my ornaments though I had to call Coastal as seven of them were busted! They gave me a credit But some of them came out really nice for my niece and nephews girlfriend and my sisters. Still have to make the baby one but can't till I get a good picture of him. Anyway I better cut it short now as I wrote too MUCH as it is. ...
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Sorry for the long post and if I missed anyone!
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Hey everyone, i hope all of you are doing well. Well, our church bazaar is over and it was a big success. I made 4 pecan pies and helped with the serving line. Now maybe i can concentrate on connor's big 5th birthday party which is saturday. Me and sis are going to try to make him a spongebob cake. That's what we are doing his party in. He loves spongebob.
Dad is doing ok. he is still having some swallowing problems. And today when we got through at the church, he asked me if i knew how to take a blood pressure and i told him no. Then i asked him why whats wrong. And he started patting his chest. I asked him was he having chest pains and he said yes but they are not bad. So i called sis and she sent brother up there to take his bp and it was 130 over 70. So we gave him a aspirin and gave him his omeprazole pill and a tums. So sis is going to check on him tonight when she stays with him to see if the pains got any better. And he has a drs appt tues with the dr we don't like he is going to tell us what dads tsh levels are. Got to go have that done monday so doc will have it when we go to him tues. Then the same day he has a drs appt with the lung dr the one we like. He has dads pet and ct scan report so maybe he will be able to tell us something tues. it has been a long six weeks since we saw him last. Seems like all we do is hurry up and wait. The story of our lives........... Love and hugs stormyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Stormy: I am glad your church bazaar was a success. Pecan pie sounds good. I am sorry your dad had a health scare. I pray your appointments this upcoming week will bring some comfort. I agree that it seems like all we do is hurry up and wait ~ especially drivers. I laugh when I see someone next to me at a red light that just hauled you know what past me to get ahead of me to be no farther ahead than I am in the long run, you know. But I am guilty of that as well. I worry about the traffic and parking at school, I leave 2 hours before my class starts only to have time on my hands once I get there. I walk fast by nature and notice I breeze past people that are seemingly walking so slowly. Oh will we ever slow down?
I have been studying for 6 hours today ~ writing down vocabulary words on index cards (almost 100 of them). Whew. Wonder why I didn't get all this education finished when I was young. Oh yeah, raised my kids, ran a business, opened my home to homeless pregnant teens, ... I guess I was just as busy then as I am now. That's just me I guess.
My mom has been complimentary and appreciative and thanks me daily for all I do. That makes it worthwhile.
Sister is coming to visit. She is friendly fire (unlike brother, "Golden Boy" who was here last month) so I am looking forward to seeing her. She is great with Mom (unlike brother who yells at my mom) so the next week should be wonderful!
I know Mom goes back and forth with eating and it is difficult for me to witness but it is something I have to accept.
I hope all of us have a wonderful weekend, not too stressful, and good weather.
I am thankful for all of you. A friend is caring for two family members and I referred this group for loving support. That's a huge compliment!!!
SDPeg
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I hope things are going reasonably well for everybody... I have some work to do, I'll read tonight your posts.
Kisses
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You guys are great..think I am better now that I had my melt down and an afternoon away! And I especially feel all the hugs and love and compassion you are sending my way! It makes all easier.
When I can remember to do this in my mind here is a little image that helps me.
There are many "hooks" in life that we grab..many are easy to pass up and let go but others have "bait" that we are easily drawn to...those things that set us off that we can't pass up that we get angry or hurt. Instead of "biting" the "hook" See it for what it is and go on past...There are a lot of little hooks in the day that get us frustrated ..try to be aware of what those hooks are so you don't bite them though the day this way you are able to let many things go. Here's a for example....I was giving dad his bath yesterday morning and had been putting off clipping his toenails cause his feet and toes are much more sensitive to pain ...but it was past time to do this...washing between toes and moving them cause his distress. As I had a hold of one foot and moving toes and trying to cut...he is saying it hurts and no more...instead of responding to try to make him understand ...I just keep going..well he gets more adjitated and starts yelling that he knows I don't care that it hurst and on and on... He is even trying to kick me away with the other foot.. All this time I am thinking in my head....hook hook hook... I calmly finish the task instead of letting it become a fight. Again..when we are trying to transfer from place to place...I remind him of the steps involved..feet apart and under neath you ..grab chair pull yourself forward to nose over toes..use arms and stand on legs.....when he stand he is not standing all the way up waist is bent knees bent...so I say straighten up..he say I am ...so instead of ...arguing "biting the hook" I just raise his head to stand the rest of the way up..
Anyway as I have rambled here I hope you get what I am trying to say..we all have these hooks that if we realize what they are..we can learn not to bite them..brother sister daughter son friend says something or we are in a situation ...that sets us off... If we can ponder sometime in the day or night...write down what these things are...the more we do this the more tose little things don't set us off. Like why would I expect any more out of my brother..he has always been this way in one form or another....
Course looking at all this now is good..but while I was in the middle of a meltdown it really didn't matter...but maybe next time I will just be a little more aware and the lightbulb might just come on and hit me in the head to realize the situation for what it is......
Hope and pray that we all have the best day/night possible in the situation that we are in...love you all. Will check in later.
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Thanks Vic, that is something I can use everyday.... and am so happy you are feeling better.... and yes we get to have meltdowns........love you
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Ladee: I agree. Thanks Vic ... I like the hook idea as well. SDPeg
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Sdpeg- thanks for well wishes for info on dad's upcoming drs appt's. I hope we find out something too. It seems like he might be getting yet another infection around his neck he was complaining the other day that it was stinging, burning and itching. So time will tell i guess...
Vic- I thought that was me i was reading about the toes. I have to cut dads toenails and put cream on his legs and toes. He doesn't like it because his legs get cold. But ya gotta do what ya gotta do. Time to bathe lil one. Hugs stormyyyyyyyyyy
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Emjo or Jam or anybody with knowledge of thyroid problems or tsh levels. Need some info. Sis and i were talking about dads level (tsh) it was 0.08 low is what dad's dr said so he put him on a lower dose of thyroid meds. If his thyroid levels are low shouldn't the dr have increased his meds instead of lowering them?????????????????
Also found out this week that you can have both hypo and hyper at the same time. That sounds kinda crazy to me but that's what i read. Do ya'll know anything about any of this? If you do, please explain........... Thanks love and hugs. Stormyyyyyyyyyyy
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stormy - when the tsh is low it means the thyroid meds are too high so they have to lower his dose and they are doing that. It is what they call an inverse relationship. When your thyroid hormones are low, your tsh is high and vice versa. Yes you can have both hyper and hypo at the same time but - simple answer - your dad's thyroid has been removed so the issue is to regulate his meds. In the long run even if a person has hypo and hyper, the issue is the same - the level of thyroid hormones in the blood needs to be regulated. These day the labs gives a normal range of tsh level of around .5 to 5 in the states. In my view it needs to be below 3 (newer figures) for most people, but it does depend on how a person feels and what the individual doctor thinks. Certainly 0.08 is too low. Hope this helps. Please don't worry yourself into the ground about these things. Just look after dad the best you can. Getting his thyroid levels back to normal will help him to feel somewhat better. Hugs to lil red and you...
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All is good here in Tucson AZ, but I just got off the phone w/my dad in Mass. Mom is back in the hospital- uncontrollable shivering, and chest pains. She been on a low grade antibiotic since last hospital stay. It's good my dad get a night and morning to himself. I know he has his hands full with, helping her. The doctor asked who's this guy, she says, "he's my dad". NOT and my dad says another doc came in and asked 4 questions- like what month is it? reply March. she got all of them wrong.

my F-i-L still moving slowly, and he is on the last part of the antibiotics. should be done - he's got 3 pills left and he take one every three days.

day by day.

hugs to everyone, you have all helped me.
Peggy
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Thank you emjo this does help alot. It is kinda confusing. Thank you for explaining it so well to me. I think i saw where you were getting some snow the other day. R U still getting it and if you are send some here to north carolina. We don't get enough around these parts. Thanks for the hugs and a hug back to you too! Much love to you. stormyyyyyy
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Peggy- I hope your mom feels better soon, sorry she is in the hospital. And i hope the antibiotics help with your fil. Hugs stormyyyyyyyyyyyy
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tpeg ((((((hugs)))) sounds like your dad does have his hands full - sorry about your mum. hope fil will continue to do well
stormy - yes we have snow - not lots, but it is coming - had to brush my car off - the traffic was really tied up a couple of days ago - people were hours late due to accidents - freezing rain then snow. The roads are fine now thankfully, but I am putting off any plans for driving out of town - just a bit risky at my age, though I may change my mind later
jam - sounds like things are settling down with the col - for now anyway
vic -saying no is good - something some of us need to practice -and being human is good too -
sdpeg - I know you r busy with school work these days - glad u r letting go of some things re ur mum.
ros - hope the tax thing gets sorted out so you at least know what is going on
mis - hows grandma?
maya - how's mum?
shawna - bet u and mum enjoyed the new babe
ladee - hot and cold - and running water????
every one - hi and keep well - and let us know how u r
G got the doors weatherstripped and some of the blinds up - they look great. he has gone off the chop ice off the stream for the horses to get water. Once it snows down there they will be fine. I have been working on gluten free and dairy free pie crust -not easy as you need special flours that we can't get here. Ordered some today. I think the solution will be to buy the pie for G - I can make cakes and other desserts for us and don't need pie.
Take care all
love, hugs and prayers ♥♥♥
jo
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"Friends are like bras. Always close to your heart and ready to support". Thanks, friends.
Lots to do todayl The vertical blind in our family room fell...what a mess. Repair and renewal in process...back when I can.
Hope it's a good day for everyone.
Carolyn....Bee
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Good Morning Posse!

Checking in to see how everyone is doing this morning.....and hope it's a good day for all.

Not a darn thing going on here except a visit to the col and then a football game at noon. The weather is beautiful, although I hear from some of you that I should be storing a bunch of nuts for the winter.....lol! It's supposed to be sunny and in the 50's and 60's all week. Maybe the sun will give me some inspiration to get outside and carry in all the yard decorations for storage. I collect "whimsical" outdoor checker sets and they are still outside, along with ceramic mushrooms and flowers. The col enjoyed looking at them all summer but they look rather odd poking up out of snow...............

Love and Hugz to all,
Jam
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Hey everyone, am taking a break from cleaning up the Grapes of Wrath wagon so thought I would check in and see how everyone is.... I have been enjoying my days off so have not really kept up with posts, so hope everyone is fine.... and Bee, you are going to have to come up with something for Cmag being supportive, and keep it nice... we don't want to run off the only man we have on here.. He is very patient with us...
I just realized I have 5 pairs of shoes under the table, so this is not getting my work done... love ya'll , check back in later....
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Grandma asked me what today was and I told her Sunday, November 13. She then said Well I had a birthday didn't I?. I told her yes she did and we had cake and ice cream. She said that she forgot that she had a birthday. Last night, her and my husband got into it and she told him that he'd better have his bags back and be gone in the morning. Heck, I was even kicked out on Monday. This is beginning to get real old real quick. I think next time she says that we're going to go somewhere for a couple hrs.and make her think that we did move it. It's almost like she's playing a game with us and I'm getting mighty sick of it. Grandma couldn't make us without us here with her taking care of things.
Jam thanks for heads up on those diapers. I got a 1 pack today and will be testing them out on Grandma.
Looking forward to a peaceful Thanksgiving. We just invited my fil over and nobody else. I'm tired of being the only one cooking for people and then cleaning up afterwards. So this will be nice, peaceful Thanksgiving. I'm cheating this year though we're having our dinner pre-made by a local store here so all of it is heat and serve. That's what we did for Easter cause I just got out of the hospital the Wednesday before and couldn't do any heavy lifting, not even a gallon of milk.
We got snow Wednesday night and Thursday morning. It seemed good, but it didn't stick around. We're suppose to get some this Wednesday. Gun season opens here on Tuesday and I always hope for snow for the hunters.

I gotta make some lunch think'in we're having salmon patties.
Hope everyone has a good weekend and hugs and prayer across the miles.
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oh bee - blind drama -don't envy you -hope it gets sorted out reasonably easily - our blind drama is that we are finally getting some
jam - mushrooms in the snow -sounds like a poem is coming on...
ladee - grapes of wrath lol - now we know you have at least 5 pairs of shoes - i have a new policy with shoes -if they are the least bit unforgiving to my feet - out they go -if they fit well I wear holes in them
mis - glad you are having an easy thanksgiving -we owe that to ourselves sometimes - maybe all the time - think that is a good plan with grandma - if she remembers what she said
quiet here again, more snow - a few inches by now and it looks so pretty...
think I will tackle the gluten free pastry once more and if that doesn't work buy the frozen stuff or ready made pies for Gary. Crumb crusts (GF cookies) should work too.
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I wish someone would come and clean out my shoes........but then that would just give me room to buy more. Can you tell I love shoes? My motto is "if the shoe fits....buy one in every color". I did that once.....found the cutest slides by Two Lips in a shoe store in Vegas.....got home and bought 3 more in different colors.

mis.....hope the diapers work. As I said, the Tena brand is the only one I found that really worked.

We are doing the Thanksgiving buffet at our favorite casino this year. It just seems the easiest thing to do and keeps from bringing the col here, because we all know what would happen and I just don't feel up to that right now. Then a week later, I start my dental work, so looks like some Christmas shopping will be done online. And I think we will be celebrating Christmas at my son and dil's so it's doubtful I will even mess with getting decorations out. Maybe next year will be better.
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I like that, jam and have been know to do similar and othere times kick myself for not getting another pair in a different colour when I find shoes that fit well. I never know till I get them home and wear them a while. I do that with other things if I get a bargain -and when don't I - always shop sales.

Good idea to not being the col home. Wondered when your dental work started. I have done some Christmas shopping - on line. Good to take it easy after years of fuss. With 4 kids stretched out over 14 years, it went on and on and on and... Now I do enough to impress the grandkids which doesn't take much - thankfully. I have a couple of baskets of cinnamon and clove scented pine cones out - love the smell.
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Took Mom her pills this am. She thought it was nighttime. I wonder how long she will be able to live in her own home. Me, I'm doing pretty good. This morning was hectic, husband, who has dementia as well, was acting up. But we got to church in good time. I am going with the Al-anon way of life, detaching.
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What does col stand for?
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Doesn't sound like very long, brandy. Do you have some options in mind?
Detaching is the way to go in lots of situations - not always easy to do - but we can learn
col starts for crazy old lady lol
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No, brandy doesn't have any options in mind, because sibs are in CHARGE and I am to stay out of it. What with my husband having dementia, me being disabled and elderly myself, I do stay out of it. I have plenty on my plate, w/o trying to fix her problems. I try to help my Mother but it is hard with dysfunctional relatives. If I even say one word about things, like lets clean the microwave, for instance, she calls sibs and says I am picking on her. Its a mess.
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you certainly do have enough on your plate, Sounds like a good thing to stay out of
Lots of us know about family messes and dysfunctional relatives -are there any other kind?.
elderly - brandy were you born in 1949? that makes me ancient!!!

oh typo - above -- col stands (not starts) for...
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