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But I'm partial to Dust Bunnies!!!!!!
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Ok ya'll need your opinion on something. Mis- has offered a life alert to me that she has. Brother and I want to try it with dad. But sis is skeptical about leaving him by his self. He has been getting up more on his own and getting stuff for his self. I think he would do more for his self, but sis and i wait on him hand and foot. So anything he wants we get it for him or do it for him. What i want to know is do ya'll think this is something we should try out? And if so, how do we talk my sis into trying it out. It would be mainly for her so that she could leave dad at night and go stay at home more. Btw she lives on the street before you get to dads house so she could be here in like 2 minutes. I live about 5 minutes away from dad also. So we live very close to him. Thanks for your responses. Love and hugs stormyyyy
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stormy, what does your dad say??? I'd ask him how he felt about it, who knows, he may want and need time to himself??? Then maybe sis would be agreeable..
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Ditto what ladee says stormy...........Dad's mind is perfectly capable of stating his opinion...after all this is all about him first.
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I so love the humor that is on this list. Today my mom went back to daycare. She walked into the building and this afternoon I wheeled her out in a wheelchair. I can't deal with it. Her knee , the one that was fractured, is bothering her. She won't straighten it when she walks. I'm not accepting of this. It makes my job so much harder. Not sure the daycare will allow her to come if she can't transfer. Oh how will I stand it?
How do you accept these things that happen sometimes ? Funny I knew when I went to get her that this was what I would find. I really think my mother enjoys sitting in a wheel chair as she acts completely helpless.
Please don't misunderstand; I know wheelchairs are a wonderful way for those of us with leg ,feet, knee,and those injured ,etc. problems to get around. I think it is wonderful. I just feel that my mother has so lost her will that she accepts this and wants it. I am a fighter and not very accepting. I do ask myself , Why?
I started this post saying I love the humor expressed by everyone. I just can't find humor in my situation. Though I love to laugh and I love jokes; laughter is not a part of my life anymore. I marvel at all the fun and ,laughs expressed by all. I know this a way of coping but I am so depressed I don't know if I can cope anymore..
Those of you familiar with me know that I truly love my mother but the woman that is with me is a stranger to me. My mother was strong , strong willed and very independent. Where -did she go? Vanished while I was watching; is that possible.?
Sorry this is long and probably boring but it is a place to vent and I guess that is what's happening..
I am overwhelmed tonight and feel very lost and alone. Happiness as not in my house , my life. I have lots to blessings but I'm having a hard time knowing it.
Thanks to all, Carol
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Carol, the mom I knew as MY mom is with the mom you knew as YOUR mom ... they are still inside themselves ... but we can longer see them. I am grieving the loss of the "old" mom the same as you are. I was watching "Comfort and Joy" (a Christmas movie) and her husband said "Old Jane or New Jane...I love them both" and I sobbed so hard I thought my gut was going to come out of my mouth (sorry for the visual). Old Mom..new Mom ... I do love them both but accepting the helpless, dependent, weak-willed mom I see now is not something I am doing well.
Even tonight she gave my brother credit for something I did (knowing her words would sting) and tonight I just cannot be around her. Fortunately she does not wander and she is out looking for the purse she hides every other Tuesday when the cleaning woman comes.
Carol, I feel your pain. And the humor, it comes and goes, one cannot stay delirious all the time. We have all of the emotions here on this site ~thank God. I was thinking of all my friends going to New Years parties and I am sitting with mom. Not that I am a party girl but I would like that option. A caregiver comes tomorrow and my mom asked why seeing as I am on semester break: heck, to do MY thing every once in a while. He understands, bless his heart, and they get along well, so going every Wednesday whether I am here or not is definitely going to happen (altho I confess that I said when I was out of school no caregivers ~ I changed my mind!!!).
I feel your pain: lost, alone, resentful, bitter, wanting the old mom, not quite yet embracing this stranger who holds the title of Mom.
I have promised my children I will never, ever put them through this when I am old and not me anymore. Let a stranger who has not known me as I am today get to know the me I will be in the future. And if my children want to visit, please do, and I tell them now that in 30 years (or less) I may not know who they are in my brain, but in my heart I will always know who they are. I know my mom knows me in her heart, but her brain just does not have what it takes to remember who I am. Please know, Carol, your mom is mom as my mom is mom and we are always their daughters whom they love very much.
Hugs with empathy, SDPeg
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Hello my new friends. Just wanted to let you know I put prof in the hospital, today, in the psych unit for a medication review. Oh, my, has it been one of the most difficult things I have ever done. He called tonight crying and begging me to come get him. It was very emotional. I do feel I did the right thing. I guess I am going to have to read up on tough love. I hope everyone gets a good nights' rest tonight. I know I plan to. Hugs, Lyn
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Hugs to you Lyn ~ SDPeg
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Carol.....the first thing to remember is you are not alone. Every single one of us knows exactly what you are feeling. Acceptance? Probably not....but what are any of us going to do about the changes that our loved one has gone through to put them at the stage they are in now? Whoever coined the phrase "getting old isn't for sissies" hit it right on. Most here are on anti-depressants or anti-anxiety meds, not necessarily because of want but for need. And we have to laugh or we would sit in a little puddle of tears constantly. When I was still caring for the col, I would come back upstairs to my home and practically bang my head against the wall and I won't begin to tell you the thoughts that have run through my mind and any of the others here will tell you the same thing. I have seen tons of pictures of the col taken in years past....in the 40's when she was a young woman OMG she was a knock-out! Perfect hair, perfect make-up, loved to party, travel.....I could easily see why her husband asked her to marry him on their first date........she was a little sexy thing.........we had to take the makeup away from her because she was putting globs of black mascara on her eyes, her eyes would water and run and she would rub them so you can imagine what she looked like. She would put hot rollers on the tops and sides of her hair but not the back and she is a back sleeper....uh huh flat. She fell about 3 years ago hitting her front teeth on a chair....and after seeing a dentist this year and going through a week or more of total agitation about dental work, we relented, and her 8 front teeth are black, chipped, breaking off.....nasty looking, she won't smile, tries to cover them with her tongue and the stench is enough to gag a maggot. I had to learn to look past all that.....I'm not saying it's easy, it's very hard. The repetitive questions, the meanness, the nasty remarks, the EVERYTHING, I learned to put my fingers in my ears and go lalalalalala............then I would come here and rant and rave and carry on like I was the crazy one. We're here for you and anyone else who feels lost and alone but you really aren't alone....everyone here is experiencing the same thing in one way or another. So if you need to bang your head against our wall, well you just feel free to do that.

Love and Hugz,
Jam
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Carol, what you are feeling is normal, when you are tired, stressed and burnt out... and I did see a very loving daughter, she just needs a break... and your post wasn't long or boring, you were just sharing what you are feeling... feelings aren't right or wrong, it is what it is.... and you come here and say what you need to say, and maybe eventually you will see some humor in some things.... or just laugh at us or with us if it helps..... the more you share the more weight comes off your heart, mind and shoulders... that's what we are here for... no magic answers, but love, support and yeah, every now and then goofiness..... so keep coming back, we'll be here...
Lyn, I was wondering if you were ok, and yes you made the right choice about putting hubby in the hospital for med ajustment.... try your best to relax and rest while he is gone..... and yes it was hard, doing the right thing for the right reason is rarely without some intense feelings going on too... so let us know how he is and more importantly, let us know how YOU are... thinking of you, prayers and angels....
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I promise, my spell check works, I just keep forgetting to use it....
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Vic-Happy respite!
Mis-You said, I think, you have experience with NHs. Take your time and find one you are comfortable with. Please tell what you can about pallitive care...they have suggested that for my Mom at some point down the road and I'm still not sure I understand it. Thanks in advance.
emjo-you are the proud Grandma. Yeah!
SDPeg-I loved to arrange all my Barbies and play for hours. They were usually shipwrecked on an island...kitchen chair. Outside, they were lost in the wilderness. Perhaps a little bird knew where I was going to be when I grew up? Except Barbies didn't come with all the great friends on this site. :)
To everyone else...read all the posts for the last day or so. How troubling for some and liberating for others. When I read each post, I say a prayer in my heart for you.
Got myself in a tizzy last night, worrying about what next week will bring. Alot of people in this house right now, little time or space for me, and I went on overload. Too tired even to post. Better today after watching Pay It Forward with the 11 year old niece and playing human jungle gym with the little one. Realized I want to be calm and wonderful all the time, no matter what. And then realized there's no way that's going to happen anytime soon. Mom's behavior is too painful yet, and I really beleive it will only get worse as she gets sicker. But I do know I will get through it, by being myself, the best and worst I can be. With hubby's laughter and all of you here. Would someone please remind me of what I just wrote the next time I'm spitting nails and ready to cry?!? LOL
I guess what I'm saying is that I'm just trying to get through each day. Sis and I are having massages tomorrow (thanks to hubby for the Christmas gifts) and seeing Breaking Dawn. I need to just focus on what good I get for each day. And tomorrow will be a very good day, indeed. Unless Mom does something mean, then it will be a bad and good day. Rambling now...tired and ready to sleep. Thanks everyone for giving me a place to go where my day does matter.
Counting to 5 then taking a time out - too funny, must try it on my dogs. LOL
notlikemom
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Lyn, You so did the right thing. Take a break while you can. Relax, maybe even indulge you self. You deserve it.
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Jam-Ladee- I think brother or my sister did mention to dad about us getting a life alert, but he made no comment on it. So i don't really know what he thinks about it. I would think that he is tired of having someone up under him all the time. I know i would be. But that is me. Don't want him to feel like we are abandoning him, but i do think he could stay by his self some.
I told brother that sis said that the life alert would not help her any and he said well i am not staying with dad anymore, I am getting on with my life. I almost fell in the floor and wanted to say, YOU HAVE BEEN GETTING ON WITH YOUR LIFE FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS. Its me and sis that have given up on having a life, having to work around schedules of other people that can come and help us with him. I would not dare tell sis what he said cause i think she would blow a gasket!!! I just don't think he has any idea of what we have been having to go through with this caregiving stuff. I love him( my brother) but it is not fair that me and sis have to hold all the responsibility of taking care of dad. Hell, it's his dad too!!! He should have to join in the fun just as much as we do. I just don't know. I am so sick of this situation. Just all of it!!! Everybody being at odds with one another. Schedules. Same shit different day. Just kinda in a blah mood today. And not really looking forward to another NEW YEAR of the same stuff. Whoop-eee!!! Just let it stay 2011. I wish i had a hole i could crawl into and hide where no one could find me. Well so much for dreaming.......... Thanks for letting me vent.......... Hugs stormyyyyyyyyyy
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A couple if things here tonight that have prompted me to post. Not been a good day for me, but maybe I can help a little here.......

Carol, there is not always a smile in the room when you are in the midst of the situation, and that is the truth. I learned to think about it later and file away more pleasant thoughts or quips to use the next time. I so know what you are going through with the wheelchair. My "transport chair" was only 8 lbs and it weighed a ton when I had to keep gettiing it in and out of the van. And I had to puch mom everywhere in the house cause it had 4 little wheels...it couldn't be driven, pushed or guided by her and she could barely use a foot to push her along. And mom just decided she didn't want to walk anymore. She had broken a hip, she had inoperable problems with her back and scoliosis, and she hated physical therapy. And it made my life hell. One knee was replaced and the other one could have been done, but to what end? It may be a temporary thing, but if she has good days, make her walk.

Notlike, palliative care.......When I was told about the lung cancer mom had during the last hospital stay, and that only IV meds seemed to be helping mom's heartbeat, and the constant uti's (and allergies to the best antibiotics), the lung and reg doctors suggested palliative care and I said only at this one specific "end of life" hospice facility. And that was how I described it to my sisters, mom's sisters, and I thought everyone figured out what that meant. Not so. My youngest sister was very upset about it. When mom went to the hospice center, she was given only pain medicine and oxygen, and even then, the nurses said the oxygen was there for us as mom was only breathing through her mouth within 36 hrs. There was no medicine given to treat her uti or heartrate. When she indicated that she was in pain or we didn't like the way she squinted, she was given pain medicine. I knew her ribs were already hurting, probably from the cancer. I took her to the ER on a Monday. She was seen, admitted, diagnosed, and treated, moved into hospice, and died in a total of 8 days. My sister was under the impression she was going to be treated???But no, she was just made comfortable.

I hope that answered your questions, and if I said anything wrong, I hope Jam will correct me asap.
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Stormy........step away from the edge of the black hole.........
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Lyn....you did absolutely the correct thing. Meds need to be obtained or adjusted.

Carol, you may want to see your doctor and tell him/her how you are feeling. They can keep you from the black hole. Just so you know, I am giving myself a few more weeks and then I may go for something for depression myself. I already take lexapro for the anger I had, but now I may need something for the sadness instead.

See......not a funny bone in me tonight.......
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Stormy, Is there room in the hole for 2? You've expressed my feelings in a way I can't. I don't have anyone so I have made this group my support, my shoulder on which I cry. Thanks to everyone. You have helped me; just don't know what tomorrow will bring. I can only hope that my Mom will go to daycare tomorrow. If she does I plan to make tomorrow my day. My oldest daughter is out of town and my youngest is a home bod; doesn't like to shop or go out.
So hopefully I can enjoy the day , at least untiI I have to get my Mother. Good night all. Hope for a good tomorrow. Carol
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Ok: this is what I am doing tomorrow! I just called a friend (his brother was the one that died this past summer ~ today is deceased birthday) and tomorrow we are going to the casino. I have a little left over from the money I won last week and with the caregiver with mom for four hours and the casino 10 miles up the road...I can have fun for a few hours. Then when 2 p.m. rolls around, my friend and I are coming back to the house to see if mom wants to go UP the road (45 minutes or so) and go to that casino. Casinos are her happy place and I use them as "rewards" when she eats well and I must say dinner she ate very well (altho we didn't have lunch). So I am using subliminal positive reinforcement. If she does not want to go up the road, I am going with my friend.
Each and every time the cleaning woman comes my mom hides her purse (which is really stupid because all of her money is in her safe =opened=in her closet). Then after our lady leaves we have to hunt for the purse. Next time (two weeks from now) I am going to take that darn purse and keep it with me!!! Playing hide and seek was never one of my favorite games.
I am sharing what I am doing so that others will squeeze in a couple of hours of "me" time as I am trying to do. Even while I am at school it is not really "me" time if I am listening to profs and all.
Carol: let's make tomorrow our day to do what we need to do in order to keep our sanity ok? Let's use the word "enjoy" as often as we can. And let's meet back here tomorrow night to share even one moment of enjoyment (like me hitting the jackpot ok???) of the day. I will meet you here tomorrow night. Sweet dreams! SDPeg
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Carol and Lyn I am sorry for both of you, especially, as you are having a very bad period. And Seeme is not in a good mood. I have quite peaceful days, but I have days when I would like to bang my head against the wall (another headbanger!) and I don't do it just because I know that if I do it, all my family (mother and pets) goes to hell. But sometimes it is just the sense of responsibility which keeps me up. I think all of us go through days or periods like these. But, it seems a very banal thing to say, once you have reached the bottom the only thing you can do is go up again.... Let's hope it is soon!
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I'm with SDPeg-today is a day to enjoy. I just saw a fb post with Snoopy that said, "What if we were grateful for everything today?" Who knows, might work.
Blessings to all.
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stormy- I would just ask you dad yourself if he wanted some time by himself once in a while and tell him that you were thinking about getting him a life alert.
notlike- pallative care..agree with seeme. It's hard for me to explain. My mind is going in a million directions. It's helps with the "end of life" and gives them diginty and respect.
lyn and Carol- ditto to what Ro said.

Yesterday, Rob and I met with the pallative corridator and decided to put grandma in hospice. We felt it was the best choice and are following Grandma's wishes. Grandma will be moved from the hospital to the hospice house as soon as a room becames available until then she'll stay in the hospital. When we got up there our nieces was there and that she knew them. Rob had grandma hold a spoon in her left hand and he told her to put up to her mouth and she did. She just fed herself once. Before the girls left I went down to the gift shop and got one of those gossip magazines so I could read to her. She knows that we are there and shakes her head when we ask her yes and no questions. When it was just Rob and I there, well Rob farted. I told grandma " jr, just farted and he about blew me out of my chair." She laughed even though no laughter came out, but we knew she did. We don't know if she knows what kind of condition she's in so we're going to ask her today when we see her.
Yesterday morning and last night we were going through some of her drawers. Oh my gosh, grandma must be part squirrel. Why? I can't tell you how many cookies and crackers we found wrapped up in tissue or paper towel. She was horriding them for the winters we have in Michigan.. We found a key chain that reads " the best diet is with cookies in both hands.' Yup, Grandma is our cookie monster.
I've been keeping her nieces update with what's going on with Grandma and called them last night plus her best friend is 86 yrs young. One of her nieces who lives in Loiusanna and her other one lives her in MI both thanked me for taking good care of her and had me in tears. Her best friend who also lives in Louisanna thanked me too. All 3 of them said that they didn't know where grandma would be if it wasn't for me. I've taken care of her all of these 4 and 1/2 yrs. They made me cry. Her best friend told me that she wished that she was lived closer to us. I told her that even though she lived so far away I felt like I've known her for yrs.
I feel asleep last night in grandma's lift chair. I guess was just so tired with everything going on. Rob left me there sleeping and I'll tell ya I didn't wake up until 5:30 am. I slept pretty darn good.
Well I need to get off of here and get some things down around here, it helps me to deal with everything if I keep busy....
Until we chat again The Laundry Room Bar & Grill is open and make yourselves at home...
Melissa
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Stormy, what if you sat down with dad, and really talked with him about the life alert..... let him know how it works, that you are not trying to abandon him, but think maybe he would like more privacy... just because he made no comment doesn't mean he doesn't have feeling or an opinion about it.... and yes, you are going to have to possibly get more help in there this next year.... you are too young to be feeling like this....and that is a horrible feeling to be dreading this next year... I pray you and sis find some extra help this next year.... it is just too much...
notlikemom, yeah, we need to be grateful, until something bursts our balloon.... I know you are so tired and have your hands full.... guess there are days we can only do this 5 minutes at a time or loose our minds....think of you during the day as I am answering Sonnys same question for the hundredth time.... but he is not like your mom, he is very sweet and I am blessed to be a part of his life....
And for whatever reason, Marie has made a major turnaround... guess she needed to see that I could be trusted, that I will do my work without being told, and that I will also question her when she is taking things out on me... she hasn't been ugly in a long while...but I have also fine tuned my balancing act.... she needs attention too... seems the more she gets the easier she is to get along with....she got a beautiful poinsettia for Christmas from a Friend, yesterday she said it may need some water... I had already watered it , and picked off the dead leaves... she always seems surprised that she doesn't have to tell me every thing to do... maybe some of it is the last lady she had in to help....doesn't really matter, she has not been difficult for months now...and I know how to handle her when she starts...
When I approached her about taking Sonny to the Senior Center this next year, her first reaction was NO... I asked her to think about it... we could try it, if he gets on overload, we won't do it... but explained to her that he is bored and getting depressed.... he is a very social person... and of course I would stay with him, I think she thought I was going to just drop him off..... uh no, he would be lost without someone familiar.... she could have some time to herself, I could get out of there for a little while, and it can be a win-win if Sonny likes it....
She is letting me help her more after I sat down and talked with her about some things.... that I know she is very capable of getting her own clothes out, tho it is a problem with her balance... she does it when I'm not there, it's just to give her a break.... she warmed to that idea.... so one more stressor aliveated....communication with compassion works wonders... and humor... Sonny has not been wanting to shower.. so yesterday I got everything ready and went in and said "time for a shiny hiney", didn't give him time to get upset, we just went and did it... told him, yeah, you were hoping I forgot didn't you... and he laughed... him and I have "secrets" , like when I find candy in his pockets, we don't tell Marie... when he wants to put a napkin in his pocket, I help him, where Marie can't see.... he just loves thinking he is getting one over on her....
Awhile back she was leaving to go to the Dr. we were standing outside, and he looked at me and said" that is one mean lady right there" but we both fell out laughing....we laugh a lot and it is so therapeutic for him and I both.... and even Marie will laugh with us now... times to be serious and then times to say to hell with it, life is too short....
So hope ya'll can find at least one thing to smile about today...
Am really looking forward to getting to meet a friend on this thread, her husband and her will be here in about a month.... it will be fun.... so some of us will get to meet as time goes on... reinforces that we are not alone.... hugs and angles to my friends...
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stormy.....the girls have given you good advice. By virtue of being the oldest, sis thinks the biggest burden of caring for Dad falls on her shoulders. There is always someone who doesn't share in that same amount of care, but to listen to them (brother) they slave from morning to night. Makes them feel important but we all know differently. My sister and brother were the same way with my mother....sister thought she did her duty by seeing her once every couple of months, brother every couple of years.....but guess who wailed and beat their chests the loudest when mom passed?
Sis is not receptive to the idea of the life alert....because if something should happen to Dad and she isn't there, she would find it hard to live with the guilt that it happened on her watch. Well, things happen regardless, even when you're standing over them and there's nothing you can do except watch it happen. There are some other things you can look at to give you some help. You already have outside help coming in....can that be increased? Does Dad's monthly income cover his living expenses and the cost of help? Does Dad have other insurance? For instance, the col has Blue Cross and the policy covers 25 2-hour medical visits per year......not much but better than nothing when something is needed. Maybe sis would be receptive to starting out small....getting Dad situated and then leaving for an hour or two.....building up to maybe a morning or afternoon. And there is also placing him in assisted living....he would still have some freedom but is watched over and the rest of you would have your lives back. Take your breaks when you need to.....you are too young, with a young, growing family, to make yourself a slave to the care giving. And by the way, if brother doesn't want as much responsibility in Dad's care, it's time to remove him as POA. Just something to think about.
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Hi... just checking in... have not be on for a while. Mom was hospitalized and in rehab most of November, and she seems to be adjusting well at the memory impaired/dementia facililty the last three weeks. Just wanted to stop by and say to all... stay strong, give yourselves a break....
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Good Morning again Posse!

Good to read from you DeDe.....and glad mom is adjusting well. That makes it so much easier doesn't it? Come back and visit more often!

Been sitting on the computer making hotel reservations for the Spring Vegas trip....geez no one told me it was a Nascar weekend....no wonder every time I went back to a place that had cheaper rates they were gone. So we have a room at one of our favorite casinos but we like to stay downtown and I tried to find rooms but it was cheaper to just stay where we will be. So five nights will result in lots of comps coming our way next year.....woohoo! This will be the first time in several years that my son and dil won't be going with us....they are saving up for either a Disney cruise or a trip to the San Diego zoo.

Hope everyone is having a good day and I will check back later.....nothing going on here except a bunch of sleepyheads....lol

Happy Trails,
Jam
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oh San Diego....my part of town!
SDPeg
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well, he comes home this Friday ...I sure hope I can handle this. I know he is excited...
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I hope you can too, cindy - make sure you have some help so you have some time to yourself and also a back up plan if it is too much for you. Hope dad is gaining in strength
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welcome cindy, we aren't sure who is coming home, but we know you can handle it and if not then come here and talk, ask questions, vent, what ever you need... we are here.... hugs and angels...
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