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prayers for maya's mum and for the alert for stormy's dad
yes vic, tnanks we had a good time. i will be posting some pics on facebook -though didn't get any of the ice bridges -just wanted to get past them ASAP ;)
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emjo, our youngest went back to college on Sunday and our oldest will go back after his car is repaired tomorrow afternoon.

Today was my wife's big day at Duke Hospital. First of all, the nurse practitioner had scheduled my wife's appointment with her and another mammogram far too close together in the afternoon. Due to the nurse practitioner being so far behind in the schedule, my wife got her mammogram done first and gave them CD's of her previous mammogram's from a few weeks ago and from last year. Actually, that worked out for the best both time wise and what she learned. It was all good news and it looks like a very low probability concerning getting a biopsy done.

We learned enough to question ever having her mammograms done where we live again and to question my wife staying with her primary physician. Evidently, the people here do not know the difference between breast calcification and evidence of breast trauma which my wife experienced in the fall of 2010 when her air bag diploid and her seat belt tightened up in a car accident. Thus, the left breast is where those folks and her primary physician wanted her to have a biopsy done. What they missed seeing was just a little breast calcification in the right breast.

The breast cancer specialists at Duke want to look further back at her mammograms to see if they need to do a biopsy on the right breast or not. We are all thankful for today's results. We saw the nurse practitioner after the mammogram was done. She was the last one seen.

Tomorrow, we go to see about some weakness in her right foot and leg as well as some really bad carpal tunnel in her right wrist.

Thanks for your prayers and support. :)

Love, hugs to all and to all a good night
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GREAT NEWS !!!!!!! So happy for both of you!!!!!!
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ditto!!!!
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cmag- That is wonderful news for you both, so happy!!!
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CMAG: prayers answered! Thank you God! SDPeg
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Wonderful news Cmag-what a blessing.
I am amazaed at all the dysfunctional families we come from. Reminds me of a t-shirt I saw years ago: A big lecture hall with a banner saying "Welcome childen of normal parents" and only two people sitting in the whole place. LOL I can read the respect everyone has for each other on this site, because we are all doing the same job. I learn something new each time.
Thanks for the support for last night. So much for being brave...I just gave up and told her I had no idea what the doctor was talking about. I feel awful for not telling her the truth. Truly dysfunctional and not much fun. I got home from work late because of traffic, spent 2 hours with hubby sorting out bills, got snipped at as soon as she came in the house, spent over an hour discussing the new household expense breakdown and posible radiation treatment with her and Dad, and I just couldn't anymore. That was my whole night. I know this will catch up to me, but for now, there is what passes for peace. I will live to fight (get yelled at) another day.
I am happy she is doing so well physically. She's in an "up" phase with Dad...spening more time with him, being nicer to him, ect. I'm going to let him enjoy it. I thought she was coming here to die, and she will, but not as soon as I had thought. So I have to learn how to live with her.
Good day all!
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It is heartbreaking to read about so many dysfunctional families. As a child from a broken home, it seems like I have an internal radar for others who come from a broken home and or are divorced themselves. I feel very sorry for boys, particularly if they are only children, when I see how their moms have made them like substitute emotional partners. Frankly, I don't give a rip as to why this takes place because it is wrong as well as damages the child and I've even seen married women do this because their marriage is so pour which is not an excuse, but only an explanation. Likewise, while we an reach the point where we somewhat understand our dysfunctional mom or dad and how what they did set us up for their emotional blackmail by living out of that hurt inner child than our of that rational inner adult, that does not make what they did right and it does not make our battle any easier to live out of that inner adult instead of that wounded inner child. I wish all of us well in living 2012 more from our inner adult than from our inner child. It an't easy, but it is worth the journey and sometimes that takes a trained therapist to help us along the way. Good night! oh, it is almost morning!
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It is nice to come here when sleep seems far away. I was raised in a rather functional family without alcohol, divorce or abuse. The only dysfunction I would say I experienced is no conflict in the home. I am not talking about violence, but just day to day conflict...it does not teach a child how to resolve conflict if there is none. We went to church, we said our prayers, we had family time, we laughed, we played, we shared. It was what was normal for us. We knew about families that were different, that parents drank, fought, had affairs. But all families had their "normalcy". Now as I am much older and more learned I see the troubles my mom had and still has with eating disorders, I can look back and see when my dad gave into my mom because of his fear of abandonment. I see my brother's mental problems that probably stem from exactly what you wrote cmag. My mom's unhealthy relationship with my brother has traveled the years and just how unhealthy we are still unsure.
I vow for 2012 NOT to play their game anymore. It has only been a year that I have really, really been aware of the game they play. And this year, no thanks. I am done. If my mom wants to lie to my brother about what she and I do then that's HER lie and not mine. If he wants to believe her because it makes me the bad guy then that's his problem. I am checking out of this game. I will no longer play. I don't have to.
And their relationship has been tighter than tight for more years than I care to count. I have taken a step back from it, analyzed what I can from it, and will be guarded to protect myself but not put forth that much energy into it.
I have had enough therapy to know that we cannot change the past but as you wrote, embrace what we glean from it, accept what we cannot change, and enjo life.
I broke a tooth tonight on a pit in an olive that I was unaware was in it. The jar has the disclaimer "there may be some pits in here" so although a friend said sue the company there is no point. It is a tooth in the front on the bottom and this sucks. I won't have any money to repair it until next week nor is the dental office open until next week (it is on campus and campus is closed ugh!!!). Such is life right? Could be worse. But it still makes me upset. This is a capped tooth so perhaps (I am keeping my fingers crossed) this can be fixed with a nominal fee (I hope, I hope).
Mom has a cold and has slept today. I have made soup and given her cough drops. She gets a cold when she gets her hair colored but chose to tell my brother I took her out new years eve to a party and she wanted to leave and I said no...oh the game people play...I was on FB and this site nye ... venting and chatting! Why oh why do people play these games? I wonder. But then I don't. It serves some purpose in their lives and we can only speculate. I have to laugh though ... I have not gone out on nye for years and years and really am not the party type so that idea is not that appealing to me. I enjoyed watching the TWILIGHT ZONE marathon ... made my family seem a bit tame ... but then again I wonder how many of those episodes were based on true stories ... ha ha. doo doo doo doo
I may try to get some sleep and hope everyone else is resting as well.
Good night/morning!
SDPeg
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SDPeg, your mother and dad sound very much like my MIL and FIL with my MIL becoming far too close with my wife which has been a battle for her to overcome. I'm just now coming to complete terms with what my mother did to me. Some things have not been clear until this past year and some things were hidden deep in my memory, but I'm starting to move beyond all that now. I'm sorry to hear about your brother's mental problems.
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Closeness is good; enmeshment is not. My mom and dad were so close that when he died, just like many other spouses do at this octogenarian age, my mom lost a piece of herself. With that being said and respected, he pampered her since he retired 20plus years ago and she expects me to do that (and so does my brother). She used to heat a cup of water up in the microwave to make coffee at 6:30 in the morning while dad and I were still sleeping; now she gets up around 8 and expects me to do it all. After first I felt sorry for her losing her husband (my dad) but woke up one morning and said to myself that the more I do the less she will and decided that 2012 was the year to step back and have her fend for herself like she used to do.
My dad also enabled my mom to live out her eating disorder (wow...shock to me to realize what was going on all these years) without others seeing. Her doc and I accept the lifelong eating disorder and she labeled it "chronic malnutrition". At this age, intervention for this is not helpful. But it hurts me to see her starve herself into nonexistence.
Family secrets are just now being exposed as well. Unbeknownst to me and my sister is the unhealthy enmeshment my brother has had with my mom and my dad allowed and encouraged it. Icky stuff to realize at this age...icky!!!
My brother could seek help if he wanted to; so could my mom. But they don't; after all, they are perfect you know. I have had counseling and through my therapy I learned my value is not in the games others play but in who God sees me as. I am the apple of his eye. And that's good enough for me.
I look forward to the positive changes that will occur this year. It would not surprise me if mom's doc puts her into assisted living. I see that happening and that's ok with me. I know in my heart I have done everything I am here to do for mom and that's all anyone could ask.
We do find times in our lives that the light is shed onto some of our issues and others times we rest from them. I am sorry for the troubles in your life. I pray for peace for all of us that are battling the demons in our lives from yesterday and those present today. God is in control is my mantra. That gets me through the days and nights of agony. SDPeg
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According to the badge tally this should be my 300th comment made to which I write: is that all? ha ha
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notlike - you do what you have to do to survive. It is good that mum and dad are doing better together - nice for them to have that time together -"what passes for peace" - yeah - know about that one - hope today is a good day
cmag - I am just plain proud of you and the work you have done to get through the emotional maze (mess) from your childhood. (((((hugs))))) to the inner chld and "Well done!" to the inner adult. Your wife is fortunate to have you to help her through her mazes and it sounds like the boys are doing well.
sdpeg - that sounds pretty dysfunctional to me. Dysfunctional doesn't necessarily mean alcohol, fights and divorce. It includes controlling behaviour, family secrets and - a big one - denial.

My experience is 1) that I am still figuring out the family dynamics and how to deal with them, but certainly have made progress to a place that is "safer" for me, and 2) that people can change. I am nothing short of amazed that my sis is organizing mother's 100th. Sis was 75 last year and has never done any of those kind of jobs. They were always given to me and when they weren't exactly as mother wanted, you know who got raged at. One summer she ranted and raged at me hours daily all summer, and into the fall. Nothing like a Borderline Personality Disorder rage. This time I have made myself unavailable. You can only change you, but if you change that can result in a change in the dynamics, though it doesn't always.

Hope everyone got some sleep. I have woken up early again so time for some coffee and then a nap later, Have a good one, all.
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Well, I am going to try to make a long story short. Me and sis heard some very disturbing news about my neice(brother's daughter) or should i say step daughter, he adopted her when she was two yrs old. That is not the news. She helps my sister out at our family grocery store. And we just found out that she has been stealing money from up there. ( Large amts of money) my sister knew that money was getting gone, but she could not account for it or where or who was doing it. My sister is making changes to try to stay more on top of things at the store and is getting her husband to help her to try to keep up with all accounts of where the money is going. Since taking care of our dad, she just has not been keeping up with stuff like she should. That is the reason why we have about had to close down our family business because of her! She has been lying and stealing for a while now. Another co-worker (not family related) told my sister about her getting large sums of money. She goes on beach trips, sees shows at the beach, shopoholic(sp?) and just starting a new little boutique at her insurance place. And i know the store has been paying for her merchandise that goes into her boutique. To keep peace in the family sis has not accused her, but told her that she was going to have to keep a better account of where the money was going or we were going to have to close down the store. Sis told her this yesterday. Then last night she was online trying to sell rims and pocketbooks. She has never try selling stuff online that i have seen. She is desperate i know. Just makes me mad that she took advantage of my sister and my family like that. Sis would cry on my shoulder because she was having to ask dad again for money to keep it open. She just felt like she had failed him. So i guess we will see what happens in the next few weeks with the little princess since she is not going to be able to keep up her rich lifestyle!!!!! Need to send this before i lose it. Also, brother is doing good. Ear is hurting him,but he has pain meds. They had to cut out 3/4 of a inch in his ear, and sew the bandage to his ear. He goes back friday to take stitches out. Thanks for all the prayers for him yesterday. Love ya'll stormy
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((((((hugs))))) stormy - that is a nasty situation - hope it stops now - ur sis is caught in a bad situation. Glad the surgery on ur bro is done. I guess he won't know what it looks like till the bandage is removed.
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Ditto Stormy to what emjo said ...praying for you all. So glad docs got brothers ear taken care of good news! Hope dad had another decent day.
Notlike..take care you!
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Having written at length about the good news concerning my wife's breast exam, I seem to have gotten on a role about mother enmeshed men. For those who want to look deeper into this, there are two really good books on this terrible subject, When He's Married to Mom: How to Help Mother-Enmeshed Men Open Their Hearts to True Love and Commitment by Kenneth M. Adams and his other book, Kenneth M. Adams. These two books stand way above the book, The Emotional Incest Syndrome: What to do When a Parent's Love Rules Your Life. Some enmeshed moms/sons do go beyond the ickiness of just emotional or covert incest, but either has the same damaging symptoms that impact upon the son. The literature says that some moms encourage and allow the same kind of relationship between a father and a daughter that your brother had with your mother that your dad acknowledged and encouraged. There are books on this subject as well, but I've exhausted myself on this topic and now off to more doctor visits for my wife today.
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Stormy-glad your brother's surgery went well.
My dyfunctional story...my Dad is an ex-con. Happened before my parents were married and before I was born. Why my Mom married him, except to hold it against him all his life, is a mystery to me. He's an alcholic and my teenage years were not happy. My sister tried to commit suicide. Mom had no friends and often used my sister and I as consulers. We were too young to be put in that position. Dad got sober, and now he's a pretty good guy. Mom got mean. My parents moved in with sis to be babysitters. It gave my Mom identity and purpose after she retired. But the older she got, the less she could do, and the more bitter she became. My sister's been trying to get them to move out for 6 years, but my Mom refused. Having my parents with me is salvation for my sister's family.
My Mom's prognosis is poor. I had thought I could ease her time on earth by giving her a comfortable, caring place to be. I will continue to provide that, even if she doesn't realize how good she's got it.
Thanks again for letting me vent and tell my story. back to work for me now...busy today. Hope everyone has a smooth path today, and if not, we'll be here to help each other over the sharp stones.
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Good Morning Posse!

Wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing before I start my day. Won't be doing much as I hurt my back 2 days ago moving my dining room around and now I'm very sore. I should know better but when something needs to be done, well I just can't leave it. Went to another furniture store yesterday and found a gorgeous couch and love seat for the living room......and at half the price where we almost bought and the quality is comparable. So in 10 days when it's delivered I get to figure out what to do with the old stuff.

CMag.....great news for your wife. Doesn't it get frustrating when results are read differently? When I had my last mammo they immediately came back in and turned the screen around so I could see what they were looking at....a spot on the right. And from there I was taken for the ultrasound and from there we tried to find a doctor to sign the order for aspiration. Sometimes it pays to be the wife of the head of ER....lol. My primary doctor was off that day, hubby couldn't write the order and it just happened that the doc on shift that day in the ER was a twit. So I had to wait until the next week, but was scheduled with the head of the dept who has hubby's highest respect, so I felt very comfortable. Job done, for another year at least.

stormy....glad to hear brother is doing okay..if having part of your ear removed is okay....but hopefully all was taken care of and you can now educate him on wearing high SPF sun screen......it's not just for sissies! Also, sad to hear that niece has decided to be a felon and steal from family. It sounds like it amounts to thousands and although I can understand the family not wanting to make waves, it is a theft and has caused the almost closing of the family business as well as mental stress. If it were me, I would set the thief down and give her a dollar amount and tell her it's time to start liquidating, didn't you say she owns a boutique, or otherwise start paying back what she stole, or she will be reported to the police, who frown upon felonies being committed. If she isn't stopped, she will just turn to someone or something else. It would be different if she were using the money to keep a roof over her head, or buy food or pay for utilities, but she was partying on Dad's money and your inheritance. Shame on her!

notlike............sometimes the best course is just to turn and not say anything. The last few months the col was still here, there were times I just went about my business with her without saying much because she wanted an excuse to badger me. And now when I look at her I really wish there was something behind those eyes to badger me about! It is obvious the lights are on but no one is home. I tried working with her again yesterday on using her hands to operate her wheelchair and she just can't get it.....I finally gave up.

Going to pay some bills and then enjoy this beautiful weather we are having because it won't last. I hope you all have a good day.....remember when it gets too much just put your fingers in your ears and go lalalalala....for those who know pillow therapy you could try that, although there are some who don't know how to take that in the context it is written.

Happy Trails,
Jam
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https://www.agingcare.com/articles/new-years-resolutions-you-can-keep-143643.htm?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Newsletter%20-%20January%204,%202012
I love these resolutions. Today I hang out with a girlfriend. Caregiver is coming so mom will be well taken care of during her cold. Time alone or with friends is essential. Wish we all got more of it.
What if find more and more interesting is hearing from our generation about what is or was normal for us growing up. What was normal/functional is what many people experienced or found out later in life was in existence. According to the definition we were all pretty normal as we were all the "norm" ha ha. Thought this was an eye opener as well as the resolutions. We also have to remember that we are not the labels others put on us. I am still the apple of God's eye no matter what people think or say.
dys·func·tion·al

adjective /disˈfəNGkSHənl/ 

Not operating normally or properly
- the telephones are dysfunctional

Deviating from the norms of social behavior in a way regarded as bad
- an emotionally dysfunctional businessman
- dysfunctional families
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Jam-yes it is probably thousands i'm sure and yes she owns her own boutique along with a insurance com. that her and her husband started up about 2 years ago. There is no telling what she has been doing at that insurance co. I know i still can't believe that she has done us like this. As good as we have been to her through the years. My uncle that works at our store said that she made the statement that she thought she was going to come into some money once grandpa died. I'm sorry to say that she will have to get it from her daddy. Cause his will is set up to be split 3 ways equally between the 3 of us children. And since brother had his stroke he has become tight with his money with good reason because his whole family spends money like it grows on trees. Sis should call the law on our neice but she will never do that cause she is the peace keeper in the family. We have had so much conflicts last year with our sil that she will not do that just so she will not have to hear her belly aching. Plus sil think her daughter is the golden child the one that turned out good. Boy, was she wrong...... Well, better go check on dad. Until next time....... Love and hugs stormyyyy
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Stormy: I am sorry that you are going thru all this with your family member. Peg
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Stormy and Notlikemom, what stories! I am very sorry for the sorrow those problems cause you. I don't know what a normal family is. I don't know what normal is, but if someone is neglected and doesn't feel he is loved, some problems arise sooner or later! I come from a strange family, with two parents who loved each other but with very neurotic dynamics, a very conflictual relationship. The result is that my brother has created a good family of his own, and he is - full of faults - but a very good husband and father, I must say.. I didn't manage to make a family of my own, because I was scared it would be a copy of the family I come from. So my brother and I had 2 opposite reactions. Me: "no family." He: "a family which is better than the one I come from". Maybe he is stronger and more positive than I am. So.... (much the better for him).
Stormy I am happy your brother could save most of his ear. I think he can go to a plastic surgeon and have an operation of reconstruction sooner or later. They make miracles nowadays!
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Ros and peg- I am sorry that she has done this too to us. We just look at her in a whole new different light. She just can't be trusted. And that hurts. But what can you do except wait until she falls flat on her face. Maybe one day she will realize that money and possestions are not everything in this world. Yes, they are nice. But not everything.
Also i wanted to let ya'll know that they do not take off 3/4 of my brother's ear just a round circle about the size of your fingernail. But they did have to go through his ear and he had to have skin graphs on his ear. Well go to get ready to leave from here. My God it's been a long day over here, even lily is ready to get in her travel bag. Hugs stormy
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Nothing went well today. She's been cultured for another infection. She's on wet to dry right now because doctor's office doesn't bother to replace the wound vac. And no, this probably won't close all the way. Neither surgeon seems to have a clue as to what the other one is thinking of or any kind of timetable. She goes back in two weeks.

They think that she's got a skin yeast infection all over her abdomen. Of course, she also rubs the side of her stomach all the time in a circle when she's nervous. We'll see if the meds clear that up.

When I told the office nurse that home health isn't allowed to come out on the days that she goes to the doctor per Medicare rules and that she needs the wound vac because wet to dry does NOT wick the fluid out and that infection sets in when the fluid pools at the bottom, my cousin had the temerity to try to grab me to shake me like I had lost it. And no, not once did I EVER become physically aggressive in any way, shape or form, so there was no need to even begin to do that. I was simply sitting in a chair and explaining to yet another new person what works with Mama and what doesn't. After we left, I informed both Mama and my cousin that no one has the right to even think about shaking me because I'm only telling the office nurse the way that home health works and the way that Mama's body does, that unlike the nurses in the family, I've actually been there to see what happens when wet to dry is used and that she won't close without either the wound vac or suturing. I also told my cousin that she either needed to learn to speak up and do what she's sworn that she'll do --- advocate for Mama --- or she needs to stay at home because I can't babysit her too. I don't have time to undo all the kowtowing that nurses are trained to do when my mother's life is at stake.

Then we come home and Mama informs me that she needs two prescriptions filled. The only problem is that one of them was filled two weeks ago and she should have had thirty-two pills left. She swears that she didn't take them, but it would explain why she's been feeling so bad for the last couple of weeks and why her blood pressure has been so low.

I don't know what to think. Mama's mad at me because I don't automatically buy into the pharmacy not filling the prescription properly.

I'm worn out. If Mama doesn't give a flip about whether or not she gets healed, I can't make her. And I told Mama and my cousin that I'm not there to carry purses, coats or machines either, that I'm not a pack mule to be pushed aside by either of them.

I'm so tired, I could cry.
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Maya- I am so sorry that you had a terrible day today. I hope you get some rest tonight and that tomorrow is a better day for you. ((((Hugs)))) Stormyyy
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((((((((Hugs))))))) Maya -sorry you had such a rotten day but glad you came here for support. Your cousin needs a "nice" pill. Why was she even there? The docs aren't helping either. Sounds like the wound needs better treatment. Yeast infections are very hard to clear up - hope the meds helps. Coconut oil is good as is Tea Tree oil, and even peroxide. If it persists, sometimes changing treatments works better than keeping using the same one.

stormy I am with jam - what your niece has done is illegal - plain and simple - and I would charge her. No need to walk on eggshells around her mum or around anyone. I told all my kids that - you do something illegal and I will be the first one to report you. They didn't. It is the natural consequence of committing a crime and, to me, more dreadful as your dad is so ill. Perhaps her parents need to face the realities about her. I know this is hard on you as your sis is in charge of the store so she is the one who should follow up. The thought that family would do that is reeally distressing to you all.
ros - so sorry about your pet loss - once again - you must be wondering when things are going to get better. ((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))) for your hurting heart.
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emjo, thanks! As my wife and I have been working through our childhood mess and moving from living out of the harmed inner child to living out of the inner adult, we feel a greater sense of intimacy that ever before.

I mentioned there were two books by Kenneth M. Adams. The second one is Silently Seduced: When Parents Make their Children Partners - Understanding Covert Incest.

Jam, it does get frustrating to see doctors read the same mammogram so differently. I'm glad your situation turned out well. One thing that helped my wife is that the person who did the mammogram and ultra sound was an actual doctor doing it and not a radiologist.

Today was a mixed day of taking my wife to see her neurologist about some things, seeing her threapist, and seeing a doctor about her carpal tunnel. She gave my wife a shot in her right wrist. Then, we rushed home to pick up our son's repaired car and the repairman waited for us to get there by a certain time after 5. Now, this car is in much better shape!

Prayers and hugs for everyone.
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Notlike..you are a loving compassionate person..know we are here for you.
Stormy..that really blows...I would be livid and probably open my big mouth in that situation. You all are in prayers!
Maya...what an exhausting day!! Hope you have a better night and that yu can get mom well.
Cmag..whew..glad it was you and not me having to run arund..sounds exhausting but hope wifey iwill be better soon..
Well all..my dear sweet neighbor passed away this afternoon. God Bless him. He isn't suffering anymore.
Ros must have missed post ..so sorry for another pet loss. This year just has to get better. You are in my heart.
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Well..I still have to pay the bills to keep the utilities going but i am having one of those down days but i got some things figure out with the life insurance company but they messed up on the amount of policies he has...hubby has an appt on the 6th with his doctor and then again on the 12th to see the cardiologist and i do not know what that will consist of truthfully. I am so tired ...then i can hear my twin nagging me to move with her to where she is at and I am like hell no....I left indianapolis...my choice ...i have also had dealt with some dysfunctional ppl in my own life....like why my stepdad doesnt want to know that my twin contacted our bio dad who is far more dysfunctional. I also have a sister getting ready to move to california of all places not sure if its to be closer to me...I do not know.....I think everyone's family is a mess to one degree or another but it how you deal with it...

I am still at a loss as to how to work things with ssa adminstration and making sure hubby can continue his longterm care...I need some advice regarding how to handle spousal stuff in Az cuz I am at a loss...why does it have to be the ones we love and the ones that back off get greedy and expect some payback after my husband is gone when they care less what i have been doing for the last 5 yrs...I mean some of the stuff is petty who in their right mind doesnt call their brother months and months with no calls..His neices and nephews do not bother he has such a big heart and i hate the fact that he feel has no family cuz of their dysfunctional bs but in many ways he is glad to not deal with it but the major is ssa and keeping his eligibility ...oh well tomorrow is a good day...my son turns 5 tomorrow and i am so happy for his 5th which means pretty soon a quiet house:)
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