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Speaking of naps, I layed down yesterday for awhile to get rid of a headache, woke up at 11:30 last night.... finally went back to bed at 2 this morning.... not sure what that's called, but it wasn't a 'nap'....
River, chicken butt warmers... ok, I'm going to make an ass of myself, as I live in a rural community, am going to ask around about butt warmers.... makes sense as I have seen some pretty messed up chickens..... lacking feathers on the rear end...glad you are here, you make us laugh, and to think, and to use our imagination.....lol
burned, happy to hear you are not even considering letting her in your home.... good move... and notlikemom had a good suggestion for maybe getting the kids some counseling with all that's going on....you have made a lot of progress burned, keep on keepin' on....
notlikemom, glad to hear dad had no major problems with his first treatment...and mom actually let you give her OTC meds... and didn't accuse you of trying to kill her with them.... is this progress???? I know, I know, am I delusional, yes, but that has nothing to do with the question.....
Will get caught up and get back with ya'll later... love and hugs....
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Good Morning AGAIN Posse!

Ro.....I so enjoyed reading about the antics of your fur babies....sounds like the little heathens that live here...lol. Glad the chair is working out for Mom....how much easier on you that will be! How far away from you is the capsized cruise ship? I guess I really don't know where you are located.....other than about 50 mi from Rome.

notlike.....glad to hear Dad made it through treatment just fine. And sorry Mom is having sinus problems....I'm sure that doesn't put her in a very good mood, but at least you are able to help her without an argument......I guess there comes a time in everyone's life when we start to concentrate on "end of life". When we had the col's Dead Documents done, we did ours also. We finished paying her funeral expenses about a month ago. She had told us that she only owed for the opening and closing which was $275.....that is now $750....plus a bunch of other small things that no one had ever told her...so $1000 finished things up for her. The only thing we will do ourselves is submit her obit to the paper....they wanted $300 to do that for us! I don't think so.

burned......counseling for the kids is probably a good idea as Dad's illness affects them also.....it takes away from your time for them and they really don't understand the dynamics of what is going on in the household. Putting them on a schedule will help also. The important things to do right now with all the paperwork is to make sure you have Power of Attorney, medical and financial....how about Advanced Directives......and you might also look into making a Will.

ladee.....sounds like you got some sleep........must have been quiet for a change or maybe you were so tired the music didn't wake you?

I googled "chicken butt-warmers" yesterday and didn't come up with a thing. River you're going to have to share that pattern....I just want to see them. I saw the rose colored glasses on Storage Wars........and they were worth a bundle. When we first bought this house we talked about getting some chickens so we could have our own eggs.....kind of glad now we didn't.....I'd have to crochet for them! The hard part is getting them to put them on....:)

Hope y'all check in and let us know how you're doing today..........thinking of each of you.

Happy Trails,
Jam
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OH Jam, thanks for the laugh out loud this morning.... just love reading along and the POW an unexpected laugh...... yeah getting the chickens to cooperate is a bitch..... can only shake my head about the things we talk about here sometimes.... isn't it great....!!!!!!!!!
And I thank each and every one of you for your contribution of making this a great place to come to and read, vent, laugh, and have and give support..... grateful for you all... love , hugs, angels....
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I have his living will/directive document with his Mpa with the doctor and I also have the will already...my daughter is in therapy already has been going since she is the oldest...eventually plan to have them in therapy together with the therapist so she can help understand the many roles I play. I am on antidepressant that is suppose to help with the panic attacks and does not...my doctor won't prescribe any for me leaving it up to the neurologist who wouldnt refill my antivan which did nothing for me....I am on zyrtec for allergies and naproxen for my headaches( they think they are fake,,,when I truly get ugly migraines from everything I deal with)....I do keep em on a schedule but its so hard and most of the time I let them play hard and they are good with their imaginations...just so much to do but i do have chores for them and i structure at least every day bit of house cleaning etc and then one day full house cleaning etc....love them to death but they tore my bedroom up...styrofoam all over the place got to love it...I grew up in a semi strict household so I try to lighten things up but I do set ground rules and they do follow them ...still get the usual whine and fussiness but i thinking i am keeping it together...some days i do not know tho lol.
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Jam, our "Titanic" accident was in Tuscany, about 100 miles north from where I live, and that is an area that I know very well because we owned a little house on the Tuscany Coast, and I have been on Isola del Giglio (Lily Island), where the accident happened. As you know, it all happened because of the extremely stupid habit of approaching the big ships to the coast to "say hello" to an island, or a coastal town. It is an act of "bravery" made by the pilot and accepted by the ship companies, which this time cost the life to many people.
The chair on wheels was a good idea theoretically, but tonight I sat on it and I fell suddenly asleep (when I fall asleep I faint), and I fell from the chair and I hurt my head and my foot and my knee! I am happy it happened to me and not to my mother. So the chair is good, but just to move her around. She mustn't fall asleep on it!
Jam, Ladee, everyone of you who was in the Grossed Out thread, if you wish, write something to Linda Hardebeck (Lindaheart). Her father, whom she adores, is declining rapidly and this is a huge sorrow for her. And if this were not enough, she lost a niece (21 years old) a few days ago for a car accident. She is overwhelmed and she needs all the support she can have...
Big kiss to everyone
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Ro....thank you for letting us know about Linda. Will sent her a note. Hope your head is okay now....oh my, stay out of the chair when you're sleepy.....sounds like narcolepsy. I've been following the news on the ship every day....such a sad event.

burned.....sounds like you have things well in hand....just a couple of normal, rambunctious kids.....

Hugs to all tonight,
Jam
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Thanks Ro for letting us know about LindaH, sent her a note on her wall.....
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Ok, so maybe I spoke too soon about everything being good here. My MIL stayed in bed most of yesterday, altho' she did get up for lunch and dinner. This AM she got up and dressed, came out and made her coffee and went to get the paper off the front porch. I came in from the back where I was having my morning tea and she was just standing near the door....she asked for help....something she NEVER does and we had to help her to a chair, so weak she could hardly put one foot in front of the other. After some discussion, it was off to urgent care, where they did blood work, urinalysis, and chest x-ray, all negative. Dr. gave her antibiotics, more as preventative than anything obvious, because of her age. Said if she hasn't snapped out of it by mid-week, go see her regular Dr. or ask for him (same clinic). She is back in bed, after lunch and a cup of broth for fluid.
Thinking about the morning, I know she was not herself at the clinic, because she never once mentioned about her husband being a doctor and how she worked with him in the office for 37 years and that she is just old and that's all that is wrong with her [sigh]. Guess we will just wait and see how things go the next few days. She has been sick twice before since she has lived with us and each time snapped out of it in a day or two.

Thanks to everyone who welcomed me. Posting on the web is not something I am used to doing, but I'll keep trying. Many of you have stories that I can identify with, and maybe some things I have learned over the years can help someone else. Hugs to all !
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Marj, sorry to hear of your mil's problems... maybe someone here has had a similair situation and give help you out to understand what happened...did the urgent care Dr. have any ideas, maybe a TIA????
Happy to see you back... let us know how she is doing..... prayers for her and you and your family...
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Hi Marj......your posts are great and just keep doing it....you will be comfortable with it all before you know it. Sorry to hear about mil....maybe she is in the starting phase of something and all the symptoms just haven't shown up yet. I know, sounds weird but that happens...... the last time I was at the doc's I mentioned that I didn't feel quite right and he said to come back when the symptoms got worse and he would know what he was dealing with. Well, alrighty then....lol. Keep us posted on how she is doing. To ask for help when she doesn't normally could be a big deal, but glad it wasn't today and she's doing okay.....big hugs...
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I cared or my loving husband for 3 yrs but after becoming ill myself I had to put him in a nursing home. For the next 3 yrs our children quit coming to c him, except for the youngest. So after awakening from a semi coma, o 7 days, he asked if we could move to our grandson 828 miles away. After 43 yrs of loving this special man, who gave me everything I said "Sure!". The hate & bitterness with the children left behind is very stronge. The lonelyness is so hard. Where do I go to find others like me?
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oldwonderful3, maybe you can talk with us . I'm not sure what you meant by "like you" . Do you mean a tired caregiver or the issues with your children? Or both... ?There is thread about dysfunctional families here in the sight.... just look under "more from the community".... but let us hear from you again and let us know how you are doing... you are going thru a lot of changes.... prayers and hugs to you...
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oldwonderful3, Welcome! I went to your profile to see what else I could learn to help me see the bigger picture. I saw you had posted on the thread, "Has anyone placed your love one in a nursing home after the care became to much for you?"

It sounds like you are quite a bit younger than your husband. It appears that his sons basically left him long before he asked for you two to move. I've heard of grown children, who don't visit their parents right there in the same town, who get angry when their parents decided to sell their home and go live somewhere else. It is sad to hear about the hate and bitterness they have over ya'll leaving, but I don't understand why when they had stopped coming to see him except for the youngest.

I"m glad to hear that you have returned to attending church and are making some new friends. I hear a lot of anticipatory grief in the statement about not knowing what you will wake up to every morning in terms of will he still be with you and a lot of deep grief in the statement that this is not the life ya'll had planned.

Life not turning out as we had planned seems to be true for many of us, myself included. After working for 20 years, I found myself going on disability because of medical reasons and my wife had gone on disability the year before me, plus we had two boys in middle school and now they are in college. We never dreamed that either of us, much less both would be disabled and disabled so young. I never dreamed that my mom and step-dad were lying to us about their finances when in 2009, I discovered they had not filed taxes since 2004. What a mess that was to clean up as an only child. My wife and I are both still grieving over no longer being able to work and now we have an empty nest which is an adjustment as well. I'm 11 years younger than retired people and feel very lonely in society and in church. Basically everyone who was my friend because of work all went away once I went on disability. We live in a town that I never dreamed that I would live in. We didn't know anyone here when we moved here in 2003 and we don't have any relatives here either. My wife has made many friends but there are more opportunities for women to network like book clubs, etc. but still she is years younger than most of those women.

I still can't wrap my mind around your children hating ya'll moving and being bitter over it when as you say, they had stopped coming to see him except the youngest. Sounds like your husband is not as lonely as before. Why did they abandon him?

Please come back and talk with us some more. Prayers for you!
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Hi, folks. I haven't been posting lately, but I've been reading all the posts. I'll post again when I've processed everything that's going on. But I do want to share this article I just read.

What’s OK and What’s Not OK When You Are a Caregiver

By Cindy Laverty, January 17, 2012

Everywhere I travel and meet caregivers, I see a common theme: Most family caregivers are afraid to ask for help. Somehow people think that they should just miraculously know how to care for an aging loved one.

Why would you know this? You did not receive PhD in Caregiving and your loved one poses challenges that you don't have the answers to. As I'm listening to their challenges, frustrations, fears, sorrows, stress-induced situations and overall feelings of being overwhelmed, I find that many caregivers seem to need permission from a professional to ask for help. So very simply, I reach out and take the person's hand, and give permission. Usually there is an instant look of relief in the person's face. It's incredible that giving someone permission to not be perfect helps relieve the pressure and the stress.

Caregivers frequently suffer from severely stressful emotions that can control and even ruin their lives. Sadly, these are the caregivers who, for whatever reason, have refused to ask for help or seek professional advice either from a medical doctor or a therapist. In order to manage the caregiving journey, you simply must step out of your comfort zone and find alternative methods for dealing with your personal situation.

The only way that family caregivers can sustain all that needs to be done to care for a loved one is to delegate responsibility and ask for help. It's really simple and it changes lives.

Here are some things that I think are okay for caregivers:

It's okay to be scared.
It's okay to be angry, lost, sad and even depressed.
It's okay to lose your patience.
It's okay that you don't want to sacrifice your whole life for someone else. And you shouldn't.
It's okay that your self-esteem feels damaged.
It's okay that you make mistakes.
It's okay that you don't know how to do everything.
It's okay that you don't have the answers.
It's okay that you don't have a cure.
It's okay that you're not there all the time.
It's okay that you sometimes have extreme feelings towards the person for whom you are caring.
It's okay that you lost your temper.
It's okay that you had to apologize.
It's okay that you're afraid.
It's okay that you can't get everything done in a day.
It's okay that you have guilt. All caregivers have guilt.
It's okay that you have compassion fatigue.
It's okay you feel trapped.
It's okay that you took a few days for yourself.
It's okay that you vented to your spouse or friend.

All of these things are absolutely okay. How you manage them is going to make the difference between becoming an Empowered Caregiver or staying in a hopeless situation.

Here are some things that are NOT okay.

It's not okay that you feel like you have to do everything yourself.
It's not okay that you feel like an indentured servant.
It's not okay that you are ignoring your personal needs.
It's not okay that you are ignoring friends and social activities.
It's not okay that asking for help paralyzes you.
It's not okay that you don't have a plan in place.
It's not okay to feel helpless and hopeless for days on end.
It's not okay that you have stopped doing activities you once loved.
It's not okay that you are afraid to say "no" or "not now."
It's not okay that your siblings don't help you.
It's not okay that you don't have boundaries in place.
It's not okay that you feel unappreciated by your family.
It's not okay that you have lost pride in what you are doing for another human being.
It's not okay to sacrifice your financial security.
It's not okay that you do everything your loved one wants, especially when the demands can be outrageous.
It's not okay that you don't sleep or eat properly.
It's not okay that you are constantly exhausted when help is available, if you would only seek it.
It's not okay that you are sacrificing your personal health for another.
It's not okay that you are constantly trying to fix everything that is wrong.
It's not okay that you are living your life in crisis.

If any of the above rings true for you, then decide right now that you will get the help you need. Decide that you will live your life in a better way. Decide that you will take the necessary steps to ask for and get answers to the challenges that you are facing. Decide today that you are worth the time, energy and financial investment to survive, thrive and become an Empowered Caregiver.
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If I just took a little part of everyones thoughts here,It would explain me, and how I feel too!!! We have everything in common. I also am very tired, frustrated, and sore all over. Well, we will get up and do it all over again.......
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welcome z1z2, yep, at one time or another we all feel the same things...amazing isn't it....that no matter what, we do not have to feel isolated or alone... someone somewhere understands how we feel.... so hope you come back and join the craziness here... it helps... hugs
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Cmag..know the feelings you felt. Still feel isolated even though we are in same town we have been in for many years. Parents are isolated because all their friends are far away. They do call from time to time and you should see the happiness in their faces when someone calls or is thinking of them. My friends...well I found I have very few but as dad always said you can count your true friends on your fingers. It is a lonely life we lead. But we reach out to this place and find others who are in the same or similar situations as we are and going through the same feelings. Loved the article I read that shelia posted on this thread wanted to say something when I read the article yesterday....many of the "not okays" well...I do and do out of love. As one lady was telling us about having her parents in nursing home and the horrid treatment they were getting.. Never want that for my parents...just the way I feel. What hurts the most for me is my church community..there are a few that keep in touch but no one ever calls or visits very often to see how parents are dong..to me that is sad and if I think abut it I get upset. We all have things going on in life but sometimes we have to take time for those who are ill or home bound. A call a visit..I do my best to take them to Mass every week but still ... Not many asks "how are you?" there are several that sit by us and talk to mom. And ask how dad is and how she is..I am comforted by that but..... Sorry folks got on a roll. Just know it would have been different for parents if we had moved to them. But at the time they wanted to move here..and dad was very active here that should have meant for something. And friends who care about me..I know there are a few.. A text MSG would be nice every once in awhile...
Dad had an ok day yesterday. I was fussy with mom as she was on a roll right behind me picking up things and straightening just because I moved....arghhhhh. And the lady who sits with dad once a week..guess I will have to ask her to clean his privates in the bed after using the bathroom. He was very raw and in pain by the time we got home.... They like her very much and I do too but...when a person is going down hill and can't stand well then ...other means need to be taken. I guess I am too picky..I want the best for my parents. Know I need time away but not at their expense...
Hopefully we will make it to church today..will order and pick up lunch as it is so hard for dad these days to eat. He didn't want his lunch yesterday but did have some soup and a sandwich last night. Sometimes I think he would be happier if he went on to heaven.. Seems like he doesn't even try. I feel for him especially this time of year when I can't take him outside he looks at tv but don't really know if he is following and he is not reading much anymore...
Well enough of my thoughts...thanks for listening
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Ladee-Oh, you opptimist, you! Mom would only take HER OTC meds. She paged the doctor in the morning and never got a call back. So at 4 PM, she decided her throat hurt too much and she wanted to go to the ER. That was four hours of time to be told she had a viral infection and to take tylenol. She did thank me, though, for taking her, so that is progress. I know we have to be carefull because she's on chemo. The ER doc agreed with that, and spent alot of time explaining to her why he wouldn't give her any antibiotics. She seemed more relaxed afterwards, knowing what was wrong. But why do these things happen when even urgent care is closed and I'm in the middle of making dinner? Such is life. BTW-I took a "nap" like that two weekends ago. I'm putting it down to holiday stress and needing to re-charge!
Burned-I sounds likeyou are doing the best you can with your children. The fact that you worry shows how much you care. It seems like you are on the right track with parenting and therapy. Good for you. Hugs.
Welcome to the newest people. Hugs and prayers to you.
Mom's still sleeping. Hope she feels better today.
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Notlike..my parents are liked that..it takes the doc telling them what I have been telling them befor they will accept. Think it is the era they grew up in....oh well..
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I agree, Marie will not believe anything I say, unless a Dr. validates it.... guess they don't like us young 'whipersnappers' telling them things like that... like Vic says, oh well.
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Vic, have you ever seen the commercial about friends. It begins with a huge crowd of friends and talks about how we have friends that we do various things with which leads it to being a smaller and smaller group to where the person is all alone. The commercial ends with but where are the friends when mental illness strikes? Having bipolar II disorder creates some of my sense of isolation. I've gotten away from telling people that I'm on disability and more often tell them that I'm on medical retirement. Being on this site helps me in my struggle with feeling isolated.
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Yep and I know what you mean.. Being here is a gift from god for all us caregivers. Friends mean well.. They are just in their own little live and we aren't a part of that circle anymore
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Vic, I can count my best friends beyond my wife on one hand. One from high school. One from college. One from graduate school. One from Tae Kwon Do, and one colleague.
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Me too! Hubby, friend from high schoo and friend from kids high school and frond other dear friend. We are so blessed!
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Good Morning Posse!

Everyone has such wonderful posts this morning......and of course you all know how much I love playing the devil's advocate....:) I am like the rest of you in that when I went on "medical retirement" my friends disappeared and then with the care giving it was like I was on island all by myself. None of us thought a few years ago that we would be where we are now. But when we were there, how much thought did we give or even know about some of our friends who might be care giving? I know I didn't. I didn't have time. Sometimes I think it was all part of God's plan for my care giving of the col......we were in the process of finishing her house and making arrangements to move her when I became injured....I had 2 weeks to get treatment for myself and take care of some medical problems going on with Target before she came to us full-time. Because of my work schedule I would not have had time to care for her without risking my own well-being. I honestly believe that if one has never done care giving in the past or not doing it now.....is only offering lip service when they say "I'm sorry for the burden you carry of care giving"...not one of them says "let me come and relieve you for awhile because I know you need some time away"..........they haven't got a clue until they actually do it themselves. And there isn't a one of us who would stand up and say "it's not okay to make me feel like an outsider, so why don't you give me some attention"....so we do become isolated.....and pretty soon all those people have forgotten that we still need them in our lives and we end up depressed, lonely and like River....crocheting chicken butt warmers......let's face it...we are a special, unique bunch of people, who have found a common bond and for most of us this is where we will find some relief from the feelings of isolation. We don't fit in well anymore outside of the circle of care giving and I truly don't think those on the outside want to be reminded that could be in their immediate future!

Welcome to our new posters.......hope you find a place here.....we'll leave the light on for you!

Football today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Happy Trails,
Jam
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Zoe.....yes we have so many things in common for a group if people as diverse as we are. Its absoulutly wonderful. Some people do this cargiving stuff without flinching others do it pulling their hair out..but we all get along here.learn from each other.appreciate the differences,and comfort in the similarities. We can be ourselves here,without fear knowing that any other opinions will be strictly outta caring for one another and not for bashing. So like Jam said pull up a chair and let us get to know ya.
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Vic...one of the things that hurts annie the most is her church has all but abandoned her. It gone through several preachers the last few years and they have lost touch with her. I have taken her a couple times for kids programs and they would try to talk to her..the knew ones introduce themselves and she would get a real spiteful hateful tone with them...I can't remember what was said..basically they introduced themselves told her it was nice meeting her and she would give them this evil eagle eye thing and in her snappiest voice say its been a long time....they would kind just blink...blink...and excuse themselves. I can't imagine their thoughts. They have no clue,they think she's nuts I know. As
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Cmag...I have a question...or your opinion rather. Coming from a person who suffers from that disease. A lot of people don't know that I am was divorced. I married when I was young 17 I still remember my mom signing the papers for me. Not because she liked him...not because I Had to marry...but because she could see through him,she was sure he was playing a game between them and me and if it came right down to it he would run.
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Anyways..he turned out being an extremely abusive person...think third world country abusive. I still never came to terms with some if it. And have up a long time ago on trying. I just put it past me. Anyways. Now I don't normal let people know my story because they stereotype me and assume if I was married to a dope head I was one to. But this wasn't true. I didn't grow up around it...didn't like it...and spent our whole marrige trying to "save him" from his diseases. Drug addiction,and adhd. This is what his fam would say when I would be bout to leave him. Now they tell me (after years of marring and abusing other young women, being their,being on drugs. You name it he has been caught..but not completely proven...about every kinda crime you can think of.So anyways...evertime time he gets in trouble...his mom finds a new diagnosis for him.now they've been wrong all these years...he has bi polar instead of the other problems they bought he has had. So with this"new"diagnosis they are going to fix himIts a miracle they say!!!problem is that was a while back and he still can't handle life. He stay stay outta trouble...drugs...theiveing...my kids hate having to see him. Thank god it has to be supervised. Thank god these visits are very limited. Anyways. My question is this. I have always suspected he was just a mean horrible criminal. My brother was adhd he was never on drug..managed to hold down a job....and wasn't a their.
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Oops...sorry...I mean managed to hold down a job although he had a good job its gone now anhe had anto awsome understanding boss.he can't seem to find anyone to hire him now. Anyways...its because of his tardy record not because he can't show ip to work sober. So I always called bluff on the a.d.h.d thing causing him to break into homes beat and rape women,its it common for people who suffer from his new diagnosis to be that way?
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