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Hello my friends. I have disappeared for awhile, as we went into crisis on January 1 and are still in crisis. The story is long and intense, but I am holding up well. I am actually in the process of turning to the media to help get help for my husband and other caregivers in similar situations. Hugs to you all. I think of you often. Lyn
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Good luck with the media -things can get done with publicy for examlpe abused spouses-finally they are talking about it and not too long ago here in NY they addressed the problems with elders being scamned after one of the doc on TV told the story of his elderly father now it is time for the caregivers to be helped-again too late for me but I am still happy about it. Any help caregivers can get will be helpful to many.. It is great that people that I admired from the Gross out thread are making a difference and starting other threads.
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Good Morning Posse!

It looks to be another gorgeous day here in the Midwest.....supposed to be almost 70 on Monday.....this is unheard of for this time of year. Makes me wonder if it will be 30 in July instead of the usual 100 degrees!

Wonderful to see you Austin....and so nice to hear encouraging words from an "old" friend....:)
Good to read from you also lyn and soooo sorry to hear you are in crisis mode. I hope this gets better. I was offered the opportunity several months ago to document the col's life, but I felt it would be too much of an intrusion into her life, so we opted not to do it. Speaking of the col.....she has been in lockdown herself for a couple of days....the pukies caught up with her. Needless to say, our visits will have to be by phone or through the staff for a few more days. It's a little late in the season for that little virus to be making it's way through the NH....but any time isn't a good time.

I will be in "lurking" mode......check in and let us know how you are today!

Happy Trails,
Jam
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I've been away from the site for a few days, and probably missed alot. Hugs to everyone and I hope you are all coping.
I needed some time to wrap my head around everything that is going on here. I am tired of living crisis to crisis and change to change. I am to the point where I am moving things back to where I moved them from 4 months ago, and I need to not stress when sh*t like that happens.
I read parts of my favorite Zen book. No, I am not that calm - I don't practice sitting every day! But I do need reminders from time to time on how to handle things. I read about how suffering is different from pain. Pain is what you feel, suffering is what happens when you hang around thinking about it. I'm watching my Mom with her cold. Her nose and ear is stuffy, and her throat hurts. That's pain. She sits around all day complaining and refuses to get dressed or go anywhere until "this goes away." That's suffering. We've been to the doctor, and her virus has to run it's course. Dad's got a cold, too, but we went shopping today and he is up and around.
So, while nothing has really changed here, I have. At least I'm working on it. I am still in pain, emotionally and mentally, but I could really use a break from the suffering! I guess some would call it adjusting to my "new normal".
Mom had another round of chemo this week, which meant another visit to the doctor, and a chance for me to ask questions. I'm getting the impression this doctor is not good at giving bad news and may be being less than honest with us. Mom doesn't want to read the test reports or really know what is going on, and that's what the doctor is providing her. Good news only. I'm glad for her, but I am being watchful becuase I'm the one planing the plans and providing care. She will not be having radiation to the lungs because the tumor is too close to the blood vessels (aorta) and the chemo is working well. Thank goodness for that.
Dad is doing well after 2 treatments. His don't have the side effects like chemo. It will be about two months before he's done and they re-test him. Waiting, waiting...
Because Mom's prognosis is so short, I thought we'd see a huge downhill slide right away. I think now that it will come in bits and pieces. I'm learning to deal with that. I hope. And it's going to take alot more mental adjustment and strength from me this way. One day is good for her, and I have to stand back, the next she's lost and sick and I have to step up.
You have all been a God-send to me. I don't know what I would have done if I hadn't found this site and this thread. I suppose I will be strong some days and a wreck on others from now on. But I'm starting to feel stronger and that feels good.
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notlike........it sounds like you have reason to celebrate with making changes for yourself...good for you!! Baby steps will get you to where you want to be. I had to do that myself as I found that I was in a miserable place constantly and like you was suffering and finally decided that I didn't want to suffer any longer.

You will find most doctors don't want to be the bearer of bad news......darndest thing I've ever seen. They will tell someone what is wrong but then don't carry through with timelines, etc.

Hopefully both Mom and Dad will start to heal from their colds soon. Darn viruses! Talked with the col tonight and she sounds good. Said the pukies are gone and she is holding food just fine....whew!!!! So it must be a 24 hr thing.

That's about it for me today....such excitement....oh wait....I did a load of laundry....even folded and put away.....now that's bored...:)
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notlike, glad to hear from you , was getting worried.... and kudos to you for finding something that will get you back to yourself.... and like you, I am trying to eliminate the 'suffering' I put myself thru..... you have an overwhelming situation, how you have held on this long just amazes me......and again, like you, I read things from Zen as it makes sense to me.... it points out my choices.....
I will start looking for another job this Monday.... I choose not to 'suffer' at the job I am at, but taking some kind of action keeps me from feeling stuck and powerless....
You are an awesome young woman, and you keep on keepin' on..... prayers and hugs and angels....
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Before I forget again, when notlike mentioned Zen, I have been wanting to share something I do to relax.. I have mentioned it once before a long time ago. it is called Zentangle... just type in that word and you will find all sorts of amazing little artsy things you can do... you do not have to be able to draw, but I can not explain how you just get lost in the process....all of us have a few minutes.... and you will find yourself taking a little more time for yourself doing this.... just wanted to share one more way we can get away from all the stress and constant worry... hope ya'll check it out and enjoy.... love and hugs...
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Ladee- I guess Marie has been up to her old tricks again!!!!! Sorry that you are going to have to find another job. I know that Sonny is going to miss you!!! But i understand. You have to do what's best for you!!!! Good Luck with the job hunting!! love and hugs stormyyyy
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The sad thing about all this Stormy is I do understand and feel compassion for her struggles with the blood disease.... and I try to make things comfortable for her and lessen her stress, but that does not give her permission to talk to me the way she does... doesn't change what is going on with her, and makes it uncomfortable to be in the same house with her....she may be settled down when I go back Monday, but am still going to see what my options are, and have a plan B....I'm just getting too old I guess.... love and hugs to you too...
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Ladeeda I am so sorry that this job is so stressful you do not deserve to be treated badly and I am sure you will find another better job soon.
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Thank you Jam and Ladee for the support. I'm so sorry that things have reached this point for you Ladee. But you have to do what is best for everyone, including yourself. Hope you find something else soon.
Jam-I got some laundry done yesterday, too. And it was about the only thing I really got done after spending time taking Dad shopping. Oh well. It's snowing here now, so I'm glad we went yesterday.
Hubby's already takling about naps, so that's a good sign we can rest/waste this day away. LOL
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Austin and notlike, things will work themselves out however they are supposed to go.... I won't do anything stupid and quit, just think I also have other things going on and just do not take the time to address them... why are we like that??? Let our own stuff just build and build until we are about to explode, maybe I am just talking about myself here....
Have been given some great suggestions from a dear friend, so will try some of those things before I cut my nose off to spite my face..... am still going to see what else is out there, it just feels like the right thing to do, have a plan B....
I know that I should be grateful that I have been demoted to housekeeper... think my ego has gotten in the way... but it is frustrating when I have to set and watch some of things that go on and knowing there is a simpler way to handle Sonny....This is what I am trained for , taking care of folks with Alz....it would be like Jam watching some one put a band aid on a ten inch cut... her training kicks in , just like mine....and we all know me keeping my mouth shut takes more effort than brains, so once again, I have created my own crisis....
Told a friend the other day my life has been in 'crisis mode' most of my life, so it is hard to recognize a potential blessing of not having to work so hard.... so if there isn't a crisis on board I create one?????? EWWWWW that needs some serious looking at doesn't it.....
just saw one of my neighbors with his morning beer, it's going to be a looooong day...
See, see how I perceived that, it's not like I have to set here all day.... ah Lord, I make MYSELF so tired.....
Thank you all for letting me put my craziness out there... appreciate your patience with me.... love, hugs and angels to you all...
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its hard process and I myself hate n love the situation I am in...hubby is sleeping more thru the day and I am afraid when I see the cardio for him it will be congestive heart failure which takes long time for anything to happen with and if the medicine doesn't strengthen his heart then I am unsure...his family doc is all positive etc but the specialists he sees tell a diff story..ticked me off that woman assumed I wanted to invoke his MPOA...i just pray that i get as much time with him as possible time to check on the kids theyre being too quiet ..hang in there God does listen tho we do not see him...Peace will come just hard to accept the fate of those we love and endure for them...ttyal
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Ladeeda I am so sorry that you are not doing pure caregiving -you are so good at that-what a waste to have you do housekeeping. Burned at least you will have good memories I didn't my husband said he hated me and I guess he did-he shut me out at the end-I was the only one he would not respond to and I did feel a little guilty that I was not sad after he died-I am sure others who did not really see how things were shocked how compossed I was but it is what it is.
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Austin do you think the feelings are similar to those when a marriage has ended and one gets to that point where the hurt stops and you are just numb to everything around you? I can understand what a sense of relief you felt.

burned....you are making your way through this just fine. From the time you first posted until now, I can hear a little more fight in you, so this is only making you stronger. What were the kids into? Can you send them outside to work off some energy?

notlike is enjoying a nap....I'm thinking that sounds like a plan......
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My husband and I went to dinner Friday evening and then went and got a room. my son and his girlfriend stayed with my MIL. We kept saying we were going to do this and just never did. We are going to do it every once in a while now that we've seen how nice and relaxing it was. Next time it will be my other sons turn to stay with her. We had breakfast at the hotel and after we checked out went to lunch before coming home. My son even cooked dinner for all of us. This was heaven!! of course we have got the cold shoulder since we've been home from my mother in law. My son catered to her the whole time. Sometimes she isn't happy unless she's miserable. Oh well she can pout away. We felt sooo young and free for a change.. She's not taking that away from me. I don't know what the big problem to her was. I'm back to the same ole thing today and will be now till who knows when.. I think, well I know my husband and I very much deserved it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Just popping in to say hello. I am sorry to hear of so many of you dealing with such difficult times. How good it is to have a place to come and share with folks walking a similar way.

I went to my Pastor the other to just sit and talk for a bit. I came away with a thought that I think will help keep things in perspective for me. He had dealt with a terrible period of time with depression. It was so bad that he thought he would have to leave the ministry. His problem was that he was always saying yes-he thought he had to be the point man for every problem that went on in the parish. That God would be angry if he said no, and that in general the church would fall apart if he said no. Eventually he had to go on medication and take some time off. During that time off he had great counsel from other ministers. The one thing that he shared with me that helped me put my caregiving upright was this: Understand that saying no strengthens your yes. Saying no allows you to say yes to people and projects with strength and purpose. God does not intend for us to say yes to every situation or person that cries out for our attention. He expects us to say no-because he understands the importance and power of that word. No sets boundaries on your time, talent, finances and personal endeavors. But more importantly your No allows a space for someone else to step up to the plate, or it allows the person asking to find ways to help themselves. No is a balancing word. And it is a supportive word-one that props up your Yes. When you do say yes in relation to your no, you are saying yes from a place of stregnth. You have the time, energy and purpose to do what you are agreeing to do. Saying No gives you that place. That was the gist of that conversation.

I think as caregivers we often feel we can't say no. In our minds no is negative, it connotes failure to support, or "something bad will happen" or "they will think I don't care or I'm selfish if I say no". But No is a powerfully positive word and it would be good for us as caregivers to use this word alot more often than we do. Believe it or not, having tentatively tried it this week, the world didn't crash down around me and no one thought evil of me. And I felt awhole lot better in general. Other people stepped in to help my loved one-people who actually had a better way of resolving problems than I did. And, this loved one actually found some of his own strength in working through a problem without help. I say the power of No when judiciously used, is liberating!
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River...good for you! Sounds like you have finished your week with some positive changes that you will be able to carry forward. Do you feel it gets easier to say no each time you do? When the col was still here in her home, her dementia caused her to start talking to me occasionally in a way that was unacceptable and I finally put my foot down and told her no, that she would not talk to me in the manner that she was. I think I probably should have learned to say no to a lot of other things, but instead I ignored the problem hoping it would go away.....and we all know what that will do.....

zoey......wonderful!!! If possible try and have a night out once a month....it is lifesaving. When the col was still here, hubby and I would go out and spend the night and it was like having a mini vacation. Made it so much easier to get back to the care giving. And your mil will get glad in the same pants she got mad in!!!! She won't stay mad long I bet and if she does......that much more peace and quiet...lol.
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Most of the time Friday is my day but it was Sunday last week. I popped in gave her the meds and said I had to scoot off to church. Mom then said "well you just go to your LITTLE church then." It was just a sling, a snotty remark, which I used to get upset over, now I take it as kinda funny. Today I went there to see her and she is still agrieved over something. Oh well.
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brandy...sometimes you cannot make them happy no matter what you do. It took me quite a while to realize that while I was fuming mad and resentful, the col was still in her "happy" space of dementia and her mind had moved away from me and onto something else. A dear friend taught me to put my fingers in my ears and go lalalalalalalala....figuratively speaking that is.....but it worked. Whenever I walked into the col's home, I always knocked on her door first before I entered and if I didn't immediately see her then I would call out as I didn't want to startle her by walking up on her. Of course, sometimes I could catch her doing things she shouldn't have been....but anyway for about the last 4 mo before placing her in the NH, when I would walk into her house I ALWAYS said hi, how are you....that was at her request....and I would be met almost every time with "why are you always coming in here acting like a bitch?" ........didn't matter what was going on, even getting her so that we could go out to dinner....it was the same thing. So, yes that makes it so you don't want to go near them, let alone exhaust yourself taking care of them. When I have "Do Not Resuscitate" tattooed on my chest, I think I will have "Send to NH" put on my forehead.....I would put it on my ass, but no one would see it....................
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I have said before, and I'm convinced they are not happy unless their miserable or making someone else miserable. You can tell I'm fed up with things today. I was just making a full course meal getting dinner ready, and my MIL walks in, points to the cookie jar and says angrily "don't you even have any of these". I said I put a whole new package of vanilla oreos on your dresser. She responded " I don't care, maybe I don't want them". Just can't make her happy. I hate today!!!!
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We are surrounded by Grumpy Gussies aren't we !!!!!! Hope Marie has a better week than last week. It's not what they say, it's how they say it, like we are stupid, uncaring, lazy caregivers.... some are further along in letting it slide off our backs, apparently I am not one of them...it is so sad that resentment has to be part of this.... either on our part or thiers.... I try to be understanding of Marie's situation, of how tired she is, ect.... but when they look you dead in the face and say certain things, it's just hard not to take it personal..... so the one saving grace for me is, I am not alone in how I feel, and together we can learn to at least let it go faster.... we are human before we are caregivers.... I really think Marie would like a perfect robo-caregiver, that never made mistakes, never forgot anything, and would work like a dog and be satisfied with a pat on the head...... oh well, I'll go in there tomorrow with a smile on my face like always and go from there.... sounds like we all need a trip to the Laundry Room, with drinks on the house.... we'll pick the ugliest acting elder and it will be their treat.... how's that sound.... love you all...
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Brandy, good to see you here, and you got the cow pattie, it's the unconventional prize for posting with a 00 for the number....we can do whatever we choose with the cow pattie, let your imagination run amok.... hugs to you...
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Ladeeda, You are a trained caregiver doing housekeeping and I am a trained cleaning tech doing caregiving . Do ya think God is trying to s-t-r-e-a-c-h us a little bit!

I've been doing a little research. My Mominlaw was a patient at st joe state hosp. in st joe ,mo, in about 1963 . She spent a year there and received over 100 electric shock treatments. My husband just remembers the arguing & her crying constantly. She's quite a powerful little personality. He never knew her diagnoses because his father acted like it never happened. (Common in that generation). Even her med doc had no idea what I was talking about. I'm in the process of attaining her mental health records . Had to go through the old instutution (now a museum) to get to records. Now hoping her doc will request them. Otherwise have to have her sign to get them, which will set off another mental frenzy! She subconsciencely covers that year will an imaginary trip around the world (& will tell you every detail of it, repeatedly). I have learned a lot about the brain damage the ect's ALWAYS cause. Knowing the horror she survived back then gives us more grace for her now. She was borderline genious before. She's so smart that she can make up a cover story that people believe! She had a lady from her church believing she had been to the vatican. When I told her she'd never left the country, I could tell she was suspicious of me! She checked it with my hubby & believes me now.
I've noticed too that the closer the conversation gets to revealing her mental illness, the more vicious her personal attacks get! I guess the best defense is a good offence! I ffeel like I may as well get a degree in phsychology, sometimes. Anyway I'm hoping to find out what her diagnoses was to know what I'm really dealing with. Also need it for family history for my kids & grandkids.
Since I'm stuck here with this virus, I've been able to spend time on it all. She is still congested & short of breath but no ffever & getting around ok. May call her doc tomorrow if not any better. Hugs to my fellow captives out there! :-)
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yeah, doesn't make a lot of sense does it..... but I would rather be caregiving... I became aware today that my ego is bruised that I have been demoted, not that there is one single thing wrong with being a housekeeper.. just had I known that would become my job description, I would have declined the job... it doesn't take much for me to get bored..... thennnnnn I really become the problem child I am famous for....
How did you find out to begin with that your mil had been hospitalized and had received EST????? That was the treatment back in those days....and if they weren't impaired in some way BEFORE they certainly were afterward.... make my heart sick to think about her going thru that, and then feeling the need to keep it a secret because of the shame.... let us know what you find out.....
Am going to get ready for bed, want to go now, but it isn't even 7 yet... I'll be up at 2 and then grumpier than usual....so am going to make myself stay up....

Everyone check in and let us know how your weekend went... love hugs and angels....
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I found out about her being institutionalised because my husband was in 3rd grade and witnessed the whole breakdown. The truck came to pick her up, she got away & ran down the street till they cought her & tied her to the streatcher. I think he felt guilty all those yrs from takeing sides with his dad on an issue. Also his cousin and aunt filled in some of the blanks. none of them have the whole story. each just has a different segment. She is the last living now , of siblings. only a couple of cousins left who didn't get any details either. Sad how it was such a dark family secret , then. I'm considering a book...
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Jam I really felt ashamed at first for feeling relief when he died but he was in the process of being placed-I had had all I could stand and our pastor said we could not get a divorce and he was aware of our history. Saying no can be very freeing. The first time I talked back to the husband I thought the sky would fall down-the next time it got easier and every little action I made for myself made me stronger.
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Hey all i will catch up on posts in a bit. I wanted to ask ya'll something, i know some of ya'll have dogs and wanted to know if any of ya'll have any suggestions on how to get lily to quit biting. She bit me pretty hard yesterday and bit connor too on the chest and bit him on the eyebrow today. She has got to stop that or hubby is going to kill her. I've tried the suggestions that they have had on the net. And they are not working. Got to do something. Do ya'll have any ideas as to what i can do to get her to stop. I know she is a puppy and they are going to bite, but she bites too hard. HELP. stormyyyy
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Austin...I think there comes a point where we turn into survivors. And I think we have to be or we might as well lie down and die. We all have our breaking points and I've reached mine a few times....but I would like to think that each time has made me stronger. Don't you find that you wouldn't put up with the same type of treatment now? If I were to be put back into the same position as before, I can say there are a heck of a lot of things I would do differently....mostly not lie down and roll over. As hubby would say to me now "I am Woman...hear me roar!!!".....

stormy I have some suggestions that you might try....how about I send you an email?
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