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Austin, No she is not running me ragged, its just that things have to be done her way. She doesn't really help mom all that much and mom is need of help that I am not allowed to give her. If I try to help mom, either my mom yells at me or my sister yells at me or both. You see my dh has pre dementia, I am disabled and I am old myself. I envision my daughter writing here about me. Every time sister yells at me or otherwise acts badly, I can feel the cortisol shooting through me and how about blood pressure rising. I have had pre-cancer and so I have to be very careful with my health. Its a zoo here. Its called triangulation at its best.
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Well Brandy, just get you some earplugs, and do what needs to be done... If you can't hear them, they can't upset you, as you look up and see their lips moving, just SMILE real big, or if you see their lips moving, just walk out of the room...That's how it was with my dad and my sister... so I know what you are talking about...so one day, I just stopped playing the game... now I am the one the abondoned dad, or so the story is told in my lovely dysfunctional family.... there's gotta be a bad guy and I guess I'm it...sometimes you just have to make the tough choices and it sounds like what energy you have, needs to be spent on YOU...
Take care of yourself, they'll find someone else to holler at...
I finally got the cold going around, came down with it Fri. evening... woke up Sat. morning with a nasty cough... took some Muxinex and am feeling much better. So get up early, going to have my morning coffee and feel something stinging me on my feet.. I have dark green carpet, so had to get the flashlight, fire ants all over the place!!!! Guess with all the rain we've been having,they needed a place to stay.... don't know if ya'll have fireants where you live, but these things hurt when they sting.. and leave hard little blisters ..so just imagine ladee doing a jig this morning, the day AFTER St. Patty's. , and now I am bug jumpy, everytime something touches my feet I am scrambling to see what's on me.. So that's my happy Sunday news, how is everyone else today...???? will check back later... hugs
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Took your advice..sat on porch then hubby took me riding ended up at a nice laundry room for awhile! Came home passed out for awhile..hubby took care of dad last night.. So I guess I am ready to go for another day.....
Love and prayers
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See, you are not only a great daughter, you are a smart one too... glad you got to go to a nice laundry room and see other people that weren't needing you to take care of them.... and give that sweet hubby of yours a hug for being so thoughtful and giving you a break....hugs to you Vickie Vic....
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Good Morning Posse!

Woohoo for Vic!!!!! I bet you feel so much better now....and yes, give hubby a hug for being so good to you and taking care of Dad!

So sorry to hear you have a cold ladee......I don't usually get colds...knock on wood....but I do have the allergies and right now I think I'm keeping Puffs in business!

Tax day is April 18 this year. I heard an explanation of how and why it's different but I don't remember.......hmmmmm, senior moment? I decided not to pay our accountant this year and did ours on Turbo Tax....already have our refund back and the other day we get this official looking letter from the IRS.....well crap....it turns out they are auditing our 2009 return and I have to send proof of payment of alimony. We already went through this back in 2004 when we first started paying Target's ex.....so I need to find the packet I sent them years ago. If the woman would just pay her taxes and declare the alimony as income we wouldn't have these problems. She finally remarried in 2010 so we don't have to worry about it anymore...............

Hope everyone has a beautiful Sunday.............

Happy Trails,
Jam
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Great news, Vic!!! At least you got a little respite, and a great hubby.

Yes, Ladee, we have fireants around here, too. Bless your heart. I hope you weren't bitten too bad. One is enough to drive me nuts. I hear you aren't supposed to break open the blister, but that is the only way I can feel better. Kathy had to have antibiotics once from too many bites. I'd be bug jumpy, too.

No birth announcement yet.......

Went shoe shopping yesterday for walking shoes.....and BOTH shoe stores have closed up!!! Is that a sign to forget about it??? I don't want to be hard-headed about it. I mean, if I am given a sign, I shouldn't ignore it, right?? Don't have to kick me in the teeth. I did get a good lunch out of the trip.

Foggy again this morning, hubby worked all night and is sleeping, so I have to be quiet. Guess I'll look up more free books for my kindle.

Everyone have a good day...................
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Brandy if sis wants to be in charge, fine let her be in charge, if you don't have to be there,just take off and go do the things you want to do, and let her be "fully" in charge. Had the Eldest sitting his butt in CA and telling me and my baby brother how we should be taking care of Mom.. he kept that up till I told him to plan on picking her up at the airport, I'd buy her a plane ticket and send her to him as he knew best how to care for her. He shut up after that.

Vic? a nice laundry room? a ride and a nap all in one day? you must be feeling you are in heaven.

Not walking sounds like a great idea Seeme.. have you got those puppies yet? their going to want to walk.. I've started walking more than what I use too, if we're in a park where the girls have to be kept on a leash, I can't let them run, so it's walk around the block a couple of times to let that energy out that the shitzu has stored up.

April 18th? Didn't know that they had changed it, off work for a few years and haven't paid attention. Any more time out on that deck Jam? BIL got a call out of his son who is a truck driver, said that it was 80 in Chicago This winter has been about as screwed up as a winter could get.

Ladee, sorry to hear about the cold, did you get your flu shot this year? I was late in getting mine, but finally got it... had a little bit of the cold early in the year, but wasn't bad, we have fireants out where we are, we use a bag of stuff to get rid if them, sprinkle it around their hole early in the morning then add water..lol, it's worked so far.

9 days till payday and 11 days to blast off, Will be starting on the 27th to get things all packed up here in the RV, the morning of the 28th will be spent over in AZ getting a few things we need, like tags for the RV..lol.. after we get back from doing that, then it's pack up everything but maybe the bike on the trailer and get ready to pull out on the morning of he 29th, I am so looking forward to being on the road again.

We actually got some rain yesterday, so desert should be really blooming soon. All the lemon tree's here are.

Hope that everyone has a wonderful day, we're going to see Glenn's sister off, (this will more than likely be the last time we see her before we pull out) she came up the night before last, spent yesterday looking around at houses that are between 20 and 30 thousand, she's found a couple she likes. She's one of those people who are upside down in their mortgages, and she is on two houses, so before the bank kicks them out, she wants to find another place to live and be able to pay cash for, at least be able to have a payment that she and her hubby can afford..She's now getting SS and he'll be able to start getting it too next month, I think Glenn brings as much on just his VA as the both of them are going to be able to draw together.. So paying cash for something and not having anything but the taxes and utilities to worry about would be wonderful for them. Their looking at moving back here to Needles, they grew up here so have friends, know their way around and the economy like everywhere else sucks so finding homes that are fairly reasonable is easy.

Has made me start thinking about a permanent place for Glenn and I, but the biggest question is where, where we live now is great but it isn't ours.

Have a wonderful day everyone.
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Seeme, I pop the blisters too, it takes weeks for them to go away on their own...and my house smells like RAID!!!! Don't care, those little bastards had to die.... will go spray outside today too to keep them from getting in the house again... Kind of a yucky day, maybe the sun will come out later... Or RAIN, but the bluebonnets are blooming like crazy right now and indian blankets... just color everywhere with the beautiful green.. we haven't seen a spring this pretty in almost three years....
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Well, when Dad had a stroke a year ago (I am the caregiver and "sis" does zilch) his furniture was starting to be eyed up. It was brought to my attention (I live with Dad) that "sis's" youngest daughter always liked a piece of furniture that he had...hint hint.
I told Dad to make me POW and executer of the will. When this was done, Sis wanted to know (immediately) if everything was still 50/50 split.
Recently I told my father to revise his will to read that I would get the house with everything in it and the rest would be divided 50/50. I should receive some compensation for all the years I lived my life around his needs.
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When Dad has his second stroke, the neurologist said that the care would be heavier and heavier. I am starting to see his decline more and more with weight loss (he eats like a horse) and general fading. I feel bad for him but my emotions are taking a beating on a daily basis. I'm angry, resentful but try to wear a nice face. I recently took to exercising (always hated it) but it does help a bit until the next crisis
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My husband and I both are having a bad day. His mother whom I take care of has no respect for us at all. She makes us feel like we do not matter,only she and her wants matter. We are both disgusted and dishearten. What else can we do? Please advise. We need help.
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Wondering- Try telling mil that if she doesn't start giving ya'll some respect then she will be seeing the inside of a nursing home. And see if that makes her have a change of heart. You are in my prayers!!!! Hang in there sweetie!!! Hugs stormyyy
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Wondering, looked at your profile for more info in regard to mil.. so don't know the circumstances of her health issues, Alz, or age... if you would please tell us a little more about her maybe we can help... sorry you are being disrespected, a familiar feelling with some of us... so come back and fill us in and we'll help if we can... hugs
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Well dad just came back from the bathroom and he weighed himself and he said that it said 199 but to me it looked closer to 195. I said have you gain or lost and he said gained. But i checked my calendar and back in nov he went to see the lung dr and he weighed 210. And i just talked to sis and she said that he has lost that weight since having his throat stretch this past time. Which was Feb 29th. So that is 11 pounds in 2 and a half weeks. I am going to bring my digital scales over here so we can tell for sure what his weight is. And then he has a appt with his lung dr tues. I wonder if he will say anything about the last ct scan that dad had done. Probably not.... Well i will talk to ya'll later. Hugs stormyyyy
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Mikes mother has copd, asthma, frozen shoulder, her memory is getting bad (she cannot remember her birthday). She has a bad leg, cannot without a walker, she has no desire to do anything. She asked me why God will not take her and all I know to say is he will when he is ready. She is on a lot of medicine, a nebulizer 4times a day. She falls a lot. Her doctor told me at her last appt. that a lot of my stess is my own fault because I care too much and I am trying too hard. Please tell me how can I be a 24/7 caregiver the care that she needs if I do not care. How do I deal with and keep our marriage together. I am so confused,hurt, and any other feeling that a person can have. Please help me understand what is happening to me.
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Wondering I agree if your MIL can not show respect to you she needs to be placed-you do not deserve to be treated that way and her doc had some nerve saying your stress is your fault -he and she are lucky you do care so much as to take care of someone who verbally abuses you.
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Wondering: Nobody should be abused in any way. Could your husband, her son, tell her to be more respectful and that if she isn't she will be seeing the walls of the NH? You don't need to do this yourself, since she isn't your mother. But whatever your decision, whether it be NH or your home, I am supportive of you and keep posting.
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Wondering, the Dr. was pointing out what most caregivers do, we do too much, for too many hours a day, and do not take time for ourself.... and let's use the word, 'responsibility' instead of 'fault'.... Yes, when we are caregiving 24/7, we have to care or we wouldn't be able to do it... Did the Dr. give you any other options? Like hiring someone to come in a few hours a day, a weekend away for you and hubby? Resources you could check out to get some help?
The one word that doesn't seem to be part of our vocabulary is NO.... I think most of us struggle with this, so at least know you are not alone... after 10 months of working for Marie, I have finally been able to tell her NO... she is grumpy and rude, takes her frustrations out on whoever is handy. So I really do understand, as most on here will . But you have to start somewhere... taking care of yourself is very important, even if you get to go for a little walk when she has just torn you down, wore you out, and you are just sick of hearing her voice...
We are humans before we are caregivers, and we have all the feelings you shared.. we get so tired we can't think, get so overwhelmed we can't make good choices for ourself...
And no, you shouldn't be treated that way, so we need to find some ways for you to start taking baby steps to standing up for yourself... as was suggested, why hasn't your husband told her how it's going to be...??? And don't threaten to put her in a NH if you aren't going to follow thru.... threatning rarely works, especailly with what you have described about your mil...
It's about you educating yourself on how to take better care of yourself, reading books and articles about co-dependency, learning ways to stand up for yourself, if nothing else walking out of the room when it all gets to be too much... I bet you try to keep everyone happy all the time.... is this true??? And that is good to a point, but what do you do to make yourself happy.... ? the Dr. wasn't being mean, he was telling you what most caregivers hear at some point... this is why Jam started this thread, so that we could share with each other, vent, fuss about what our elder has said or done. and eventually not feel guilty....
Is there an adult day care she could go to, or will she resist that too?? The lady is in complete control over you and your home, so something has to change, and it starts with you...
Yes, it's scairy and very uncomfortable, after all, what if you UPSET someone.. bottom line, they are already upset and you had nothing to do with that...She was like that way before she lived with you. You can't change her, but you CAN change how far she can push you, say ugly things to you, and just wear you out... It's time for you to start taking care of yourself, baby steps. Nothing major, nothing earth shattering. I call it , "picking your pain". Pick the discomfort of walking out of the room when she is ranting, and deal with your feelings about it...I doubt the world will stop spinning on it's axis if you walk out of the room, the worst that is going to happen is she will escalate her behaviour to keep control over you.... so what if she's upset??? Really, think about it... a hundred years from now will it matter if she was angry or not??? NO... but you will see that you have choices and not be her target for being ugly...
Educate yourself on why you allow her to do this to you... then you will at least know you have some choices. Yes, they are uncomfortable at first, but you'll experiance some freedom and it will be worth it, you are worth it...
I know I haven't given you any concrete ways to move forward... but you are not alone, many of us struggle with this same issue....So come back and we'll try to work on this together.... this is a safe place to say how you feel, feelings aren't right or wrong, they are just feelings, it's the actions we take behind those feelings that get us into trouble with ourself... and thank you for filling us in on what ails her. You are worth the changes you may have to make... you are not alone... hugs.
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Wondering,.i couldn't have said it any better than ladee. She has many words of wisdom. These folks have helped me through many down days and listened to all my frustrations and all the deep dark feeling we have. The crying ranting ...we have to let it out somewhere and this is a very safe place with caring loving people to listen. I take care of both my parents ... They aren't to aggressive or verbally abusive but it is very hard when you are stuck inside and no place to get away.. My husband works away from home 2weeks and then home 2 weeks. He takes over a lot of the heavy lifting cause dad is not able to stand right now. We do have a lady that comes once a week to give me time. Sometimes that isn't enough but it is better than nothing. There should be an area on aging I your community and maybe adult day care? If she is spouse of vet there is help there too.
Annecurry..I know how you feel, I am right there with you.
I pray everyone has the best day possible...
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Good Morning Posse!

Sitting here drinking my morning coffee and waiting for the rain to move in....4 days of rain.....my pond will love it...I, on the other hand, am not looking forward to carrying the blind doggie outside to potty....it's a good thing she is old enough that she sleeps 20+ hours a day.

Wondering.....I understand and can sympathize with what you and your husband are experiencing.....my mil was getting to that point before we placed her in the NH....before dementia she was the sweetest thing and still had her moments, but she was getting more and more verbally nasty. One thing that people sometimes don't stop and think about is that there is no unwritten "rule" that says you have to care for someone in your home. Especially when that care is impacting all other relationships, like marriage. We tend to not want to "upset" them, so we take their abuse, it starts to creep into every part of our daily life, making us resentful of them, resentful of the person who put us in that situation and things just start to go downhill from there. Soon the dementia is going to overtake your mil to the point where she won't remember when or who she is angry with...but you will still feel the hurt and the sting from the words. You have some different options and there will be some different opinions offered to you here to help you through this.....I am an advocate for placing a loved one in a NH when necessary.....I took care of my mil for almost 2 years and she was becoming more and more too much to handle even with help coming in. Now she has the best of care 24/7.....three meals a day, snacks all day, bathed twice a week, meds given, PT when needed, and all I have to do is visit with her. The one thing I noticed quickly was that I started to enjoy her company again.....it's amazing how much better it was knowing that I didn't have to walk around smelling like poop or listening to her tell me what a good driver she was....:). Bottom line is that you don't have to take abuse from anyone, especially in your own home. A simple "no" is very empowering....come back and visit with us, we'll leave the lights on..........

It's the start of a new week and I hope a good week for everyone.....my thoughts and prayers are with all of you as you go about your care giving..........

Happy Trails,
Jam
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What Jam andLadee said it so true when I made up my mind that it was not my job to make the husband happy it became easier and when I said no the first time to one of his request the sky did not fall and each baby step I took made me stronger and I was able to move forward-when he would call from I would turn down the answering machine and later just errase his ramblings.
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For those of us with narcissistic or borderline parents, I think we tend to not want to "upset" them, so we take their abuse as adults because we did as children. When I look back several years concerning my mother, I know why I did not act with my Durable and Medical POA sooner than I did. I did not want to upset my mother and my would my step-dad have fought me tooth and nail. She made me joint owner of all of her personal bank accounts with the right of survivorship the year of or before she gave me both POAs, but did I go online to keep an eye on things. Nope, but had I, I would have seen the IRS was garnishing her funds and had I been willing to upset her worshipfulness, she and my step-dad would have never gotten in the tax mess that they did. When she did tell me about her long term health insurance policy, I should have dug around for it then for I would have found the riders she paid for to provide her home health care and home builder care for she still wanted to stay at home instead of going to go to assisted living like her neurologist want her to. Plus, at that point with medical POA, I really should have been going with her to those appointments and interacted with that doctor sooner than I did. Had, I fought that battle, my mother and step-dad probably would have never hired that stranger who stole so much money from them. I knew something was not right about taxes at some point, but I believed the lies that everything was ok instead of boldly moving forward to make sure. I was even willing to call my mother three times every day, at one point, to see if that would keep her on her meds regularly, but that did not work either. I really should have moved for some change at that time, but I was afraid. It was easier to stand up to my MIL whom my wife had lived in fear of since childhood, than it was to stand up to my mother whom I thought that I had more freedom from but I didn't. I could hardly believe my ears when her sister told me that she knew in 2004 that my mother was behind in filing and paying taxes, but she did not think of telling on her older sister who is evidently afraid of her as well, and get this she has all three of her grown boys afraid of her abusive iron hand that controls them despite their being married with their own children, but that is another story of her abuse of her boys in itself and unlike me, they don't see it for they still bow down to their own mommy dearest. So, I can definitely see how one can be willing to take the abuse and not risk making them mad by not standing up to them when doing so is really in their best interest which they can't and don't want to see for one thing they still view us as their little child who is supposed to obey. I will add though that when she made these POAs and her living will was the same time when I went into sever depression, had to leave my work and go on disability, but still I could have done more sooner than I did. It has helped to deal with my anger, etc. concerning her in therapy and my own anger toward myself, and it is great that my wife is no longer afraid of her mommy dearest since 2005. Well, I've vented a lot this morning. I didn't know all that much anger was still inside of me. Some of the stories that I read on this site from time to time trigger some memory feelings from the past and I've learned not to write a response normally right then because I know that I will unload which is not healthy, but I think that sometimes I have come on way too strong at times on various threads on this site because of that. I hope everyone has a better day. Thanks for listening or should I say thanks for reading!
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Hey everybody i hope all of you are doing well today. Dad has a drs appt today at 3 but sis is going to have to take him to that one. Its with the dr that done his throat stretch a couple of weeks ago. And sis told me today that me and brother are going to have to take dad to his drs appt with the lung dr tomorrow. I just don't know if i should say anything to the dr about dad coughing up blood last month. I don't want to make more out of it than what it is. But what if something is going on and i don't say anything about it. I just don't know what to do..... I asked brother and he said that i should tell him about him coughing up the blood. So i guess i will have to decide what to do between now and tomorrow. Love and hugs stormyyyy
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So many things going on with everyone in just a few days. Welcome to all the new posters and glad you found us.
Starri-safe travels when you do pull out!
Jane-the decline is one of the hardest things to watch. And it makes us have to re-evaluate and find new solutions for new problems. Hugs.
Stormy - 2 years, now. Hugs and blessings.
Jam-most everyone seems to like spring or summer, but I love fall. The cool, crisp nights, the colors, and knowing it will be time to hibernate soon! (There's a reason I collect teddy bears)
ASG2-sounds like your Aunt is having almost like night terrors. At least she is able to get back to sleep.
Vic-Sounds like you had a wonderful day of rest! Good for you. Good for hubby, too for helping. Let us know what Dad's blood tests show.
Ladee-Maybe if you gave the fire ants some drugs from the neighbors, they would mellow out and not bite. LOL
Wondering - Decide right now that you will survive this! You can, and you can make it better for yourself. There are wonderful people here on this site to help. You are not alone. It's not easy, and it can be a thankless job. Don't be afraid to vent. Many of us have been where you are now. Hugs.
Cmag-It can be so hard looking back. But the past is past. You are not the same person now that you were, and you've learned alot, especially about yourself. Your insights help the rest of us here, so as awful as it was, there is some good and a reason you went through what you did. Hugs.
We get Dad's C-Pap machine later today. Then All Quiet until Mom's radiation starts next week. Everybody, incluing M&D, went to lunch at my in-laws yesterday. Ah, the stories I could tell...
Smiling and having a good day. Hope you all are too.
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Stormy-TELL! No question about it. Doctors need to know what is going on. Let the doctor decide if it's important or not. Docs need the whole picture, so even little things can be important for them to know. And if it is making you concerned, it IS important. At least, the doc may be able to give you an explanation and ease your worry. Hugs.
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Thanks Notlike I appreciate your input. I know it has been worrying me and along with the shortness of breath and now with him losing 11 pounds in just a little over 2 weeks. I feel that is not right either. So i think i will tell the doctor and just see what he has to say about it. I hope he has some answers as to what is going on with him. Much love and hugs to you!!!! Stormyyyy
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Cmag, how wonderful that you vented and did not self analyze to the nth degree!!! I don't think that anger goes away about some things, I just think we learn how to channel it... Nothing you said on here was too strong, it's how you feel...
There are things that trigger me too, hearing about a child being abused, and to this day, the rage is there...If I was on a sight about child abuse, I'd vent...
Wonder, hope some answers have helped you today... all of us pretty much said the same thing... take care of you.... it's not easy after a life time of 'pleasing' others, but it can be done... even Notlike has made a little stand with her mom.... and as I said, we are works in progress, we are better, but we haven't arrived anywhere, still plugging along and learning from each other....
I walked into work today, first words out of Marie's mouth, and I'm going to do it in caps because she was not saying it softly, " THERE IS A PAN ON THE COUNTER, DO NOT USE IT UNTIL YOU SCRUB ALL THAT GREASE OFF OF IT, SO MUCH GREASE ON THERE IT WILL START A FIRE!!!!" As ASG would say, 'blink blink, ya think'.... I hadn't even put my purse down, so in my best Texas drawl, I said, ' Draaammmmaaaa Maaaammmmaaammmaaa" ie Drama Mama....
then she did the 'blink blink'... then I said, "good morning to you too Marie".... went on about my business.....even a few short weeks ago that would have sent me into a tailspin... stuffing feelings all day, being angry and hurt, but when I talked with her recently, told her then, I was going to start coming back with something... I use humor, for me, she's not a very happy camper so that is what diffuses it for me.... of course she was grumpy all day, what else is new.... I didn't feel good with my cold, so just stayed in the 'zone' and did my work.. but two things that happened and I don't consider myself passive aggressive, but I have to wonder...
I was getting ready to go out and smoke, lit the smoke in the HOUSE !!!!! I was pumping my fat ass out that front door!!!! She never said anything, so she must not have smelled it or I never would have heard the last of it... and then, I look at the clock and start fixing lunch... alrighty, making good time, noon sharp... look at the clock again and it was only 11, !!!!!! Bwhahahahahaha, and this is after she had told me NOT to cook the noodles until I was ready to put in on the table...I didn't even tell her, just heated everything up, no complaints for lunch... so I am sure I am going to get some feedback from this from ya'll, that's what happens when you are hired as a caregiver and your mind turns to mush from being a housekeeper and verbal bullet dodger.....
conclusion, Marie is feet made of clay just like me, she chooses her ways of doing and saying things, and now so do I... so taking my power back, little peices at a time.... hope everyone had a good day. Everyone that had Dr''s appt.s let us know how things went....
Bad weather coming this evening, so may not be on the computer when it hits.... but love ya'll and just keep comin' back.... headin' toward the future...
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notlikemom, very true, I am not the same person that I was back then with all of the self-insight that I have and what I'm doing with it which is helping others and means the pain is not wasted.

ladee, true I didn't analyze and paralyze my venting :) When I first got on this site, I do remember a few times back around 2 years ago that on some threads I really jumped in there with both feet. I get so triggered by dominating, narcissistic, abusive mothers who treat their adult sons and daughters like little kids and could care less if it damages their marriage, plus blind them with F.O.G fear, obligation and guilt to keep them from seeing what is really going on. True, the anger over some things never completely goes away and neither do the flashbacks, but I think that I'm more in control of that anger now via therapy than I was before.
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Stormy-let us know what the doctor says. You are doing the right thing by talking. Hugs, hugs, hugs.
Cmag-how is your wife doing? I haven't been on the other thread in awhile. Hope all is well.
Ladee-be careful in the bad weather. Hooray for your attitude today with Marie! Much better way to spend the day. And my stand with Mom just keeps getting bigger...thanks to all of the support here.
I was so nervous about dinner yesterday, especially after the way Mom acted at Thanksgiving. She did put on her "good person" face and interacted with people. That helped. I ignored the snide comments on the way there and back. And when one of my SIL used a very descriptive word for a male-only body part, I just left the room! Figured it was better than getting glared at. I haven't heard any complaints yet from her, but dinner was just yesterday....
Dad's new C-pap is so small! I thought it would be alot bigger. Looks like it's pretty easy to run, too.
Goodnight, and better tomorrows.
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I will let ya'll know what the dr says tomorrow. As always praying for answers that will never come... Love and hugs stormyyy
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