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lildeb hope your day goes better with your mother in law. Makes my problems seem small. Good luck today. I ended up staying home from work today because I didn't feel good during the night and a massive headache. But need to go see my husband later today. I can leave the nursing home and he'll call me and ask when I'm coming over. I don't think he even thinks about me still working and trying to keep the house and everything else that got dumped in my lap after his stroke 2 1/2 yr ago.
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Brandy, thanks for your advice about my son. I think the reason that I let it bother me so much is the fact that he wrks in our family business, and we have to see each other every day and i cant escape the fact that he treats me as if i don't exist. I could be standing right in front of him, and he completely ignores me. This entire situation is magnified for me because of all the responsibilities i carry in taking care of dad, and he doesn't realize what my life is about. I know that this is part immaturity and part pride, becuz,afterall...what 26yr old wants to admit that he's wrong!!. Then we can add in a heaping amount of selfishness, and that's my son, at the present. No doubt that time and life experience will teach him some painful, yet valuable lessons, and that is what I must be patient about. My dad has always told me...stay silent, be patient, sit back and let life do the teaching. He's absolutely right about that, it's just that,sometimes, a little "instant gratification" would do me good. Anyway...we all know..you reap what you sow...right?
Took mom and dad to the dentist yest. Dad just keeps slipping further n further away with each passing day. Just when i think my heart cannot possibly ache any more, another wave takes over. I love my parents so very much and i will continue to do whatever it takes to make their lives a little easier. I'm going to have them over for a barbecue this week, and my dad is so excited to come to my house. It's so sweet. Mom has been very depressed and hopeless lately, so the "unqualified" therapist in me has been putting in some over time. I think i may actually get a day to myself, so i plan on spending it by cleaning this house, catching up on my laundry, repairing holes in my husbands pants pockets, and enjoying my garden....and all this...I am looking forward to doing..Crazy how the mundane chores can turn into welcome moments of peace, that actually bring a smile to my face. Well..ladies..may you all find your blessing today, even if it's at the bottom of a laundry basket!! Have a good day...Hugs to u all..
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beck-keep the faith, and hopefully your son will grow up soon. I did get my laundry put away today - finally! - thanks for reminding me of the blessing in that. Hugs.
lildeb-it's so hard when no matter how positive you try to make things, they take it negatively. You are doing your best, and have some great ideas. Hugs.
cari-Welcome! You have definately walked the walk of a caregiver. Hugs.
cmag-sorry to hear your Mom is getting worse. Prayers to you. I feel for you with your sons - mine didn't go to college, works full time, and is here every day with that 20-something attitude. We couldn't have been that bad when we were young, right? LOL Hugs.
Vic-I am hugging you across the miles - you've done so much and it's not getting better with your Dad's health. Angels to strengthen you.
Mom's got a dry spot on her back, right where they aimed the radiation from the front. They said this could happen, and it's normal for it to show up after the treatments. She's putting lotion on it, but it itches. I'll be keeping an eye on it, and we see the doctor next week.
This is night number two with hubby and son gone. I'm still here, but for a few monents, just barely. It seems our new war is the humidifier. Mom got one this winter, and it helped her. She has it in her room. When I went to get her lotion the other night, I noticed it was on. It's not winter here anymore. It was 80 degrees today. So I looked up all kinds of info about relative and house humidity, and tried to talk to her about it. I'm worried that too much humidity will be worse for her, and maybe start mold in her room. She won't turn it off, no surprise there. She wants a meter to see just how humid it is in her room. Well, of course I complained to sis, who is going to send their old meter here. When I mentioned that to Mom tonight so she doesn't go out and buy one, I got the 'you are in trouble for talking about me' voice. And she hasn't spoken to me since. Not good, because we are supposed to go out to dinner tomorrow, and she is rude to the servers at the best of times. If she's pissed at me, it will be a longer dinner, which I won't feel like eating and will not enjoy. Can't wait. :(
Good night, and better tomorrows.
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notlikemom, thanks for your support and prayers. I just learned tonight that my step-mother has been given 6 months to live with her pulmonary fibrosis. Can't say that bothers me too much for she's a very narcissistic _ that has always been jealous of me, etc. She's enslaved and dominated my dad since they got married back in 1979 when I graduated from college.

beckncall53, it might be healthier for your son, for you, for your relationship with your son, and his relationship with you for him to find a job outside of the family business. Unfortunately, today's economy does not make such a transition possible, but I can see such a change having some benefits.
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I agree he should find new employment if he is going to act badly.
On another note, you all talk about who has Power of Attorney and you know who has it, whether it is a sister, brother, you, or the neighbor. I don't know who has it and I have no way of knowing who has POA over my mother.
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slkanger, I hope you headache is gone and i was wandering if at the NH where your husband is at do they have a white board that you can write and put the day, time etc when you will be back and maybe he won't call as much?
Beck, mom & dad both at the dentist, you lucky dog you. I just couldn't help myself. I know its got to be very hard taking care of two members. hang in their and try to breathe. Woops, I got one load of clothes done in between taking mnl to the dr and picking up all our meds. Even with insurance it cost over 800.00 bucks for us three. Hubby, mnl and of course mine would be highest. Lucky me. ; ) Chin up and hang on.
Notlikemom, don't you just love that part, "I got the 'you are in trouble for talking about me' voice. And she hasn't spoken to me since." I feel ya and hear ya on that big one and big time since I had the Area Aging Agency lady stopped by yesterday to do an assessment. I'm on the poo-poo list and stuck with her all 24/7. Is their a way you can find out by a dr if the humidfier can cause problems? Maybe you can sneak it out and hide it if it causes health problems. Isn't it bad for me even having to say that for their own health. Just a thought, I use a Hepa-filter in my room for allergies but not sure if that can help your mom for her situation and it may be a bit safer.
cmagnum, I am sorry that your step-mom has been told she only has about 6 months even though it sounds like she was a bit mouthy at times due to the narcissistic.
I hope everyone is able to get a good night rest.... zzzzzzzzzzzz
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Well..Cmag n Brandy...you r both absolutely right..my son needs to find employment elsewhere. It makes our personal relationship all the more difficult..but the story here actually gets even messier. Not only is my son working for us, but his fiance works for us, as well, n she n I have not spoken a word to one another since thanksgiving!!! So, the work enviroment is heavy with tension and resentment in every direction. So..as I see it, they BOTH need to move on, and my husband is planning to sit down with our son and let him know how we feel. I, of course, will not be present at that business meeting, because if I was...there would BE no meeting!! My husband can have this one all to himself...he's strong enough to deal with it, and we all know that I am not..Love that man..he's the best..
Lildeb..I was thinking the exact same thing when I realized that mom n dad would be in the dentist chair at the same time, which means...a little time for me to sneak out and run an errand or two. So, once they were seated in those wonderful chairs..I began to plan my escape. I told the recep.that I was going to take a quick "time out" while they were getting their teeth cleaned, and that I would return before they even knew I had left. She gave me a sympathetic look of understanding, and told me she would take care of them..not to worry. If they were to ask for me, her response to them..She's in the bathroom"... So I quickly got into my car and went about 5 blks to the nearest gardening center to pick up a few herbs for my garden..(not THAT herb!!!) I was enjoying myself completely, and I was gone for 40min. I returned to the dentist office, expecting to take a seat in the waiting area and greet mom n dad when they were done. To my shock..I entered the office and there was mom...staring me down ,with that infamous question.."Where were you?"..I looked over at the receptionist, and the blood looked as though it had drained from her face as she quietly whispers..."I'm sooo sorry"..Yep...they got loose before expected and I got busted for leaving them. So I spent the ride home explaining to both of them where I had gone, and what was so important that I would leave them without telling them!! O hell...there's just no easy way to do something "so easy"... Anyway...as caregivers..we can read each others mind..no matter the distance..it's one of the things that unites us..we understand each others need for just 40 f-n minutes of peace...i love that about you ladies..
Notlike..i'm so glad that you found your blessing in your laundry..that made my day.
My prayers are with all of you,in what i know are very difficult days, and many sleepless nights. When i read all the postings, it centers me and puts my life back into perspective.We are all on this journey together..through laughter and tears, and I, for one, am so grateful for all of you.Thanks for letting me ramble, and for reading it!! Sleep well ladies..I'll check in when the sun rises...hell..i'll probably be awake to watch it rise..Hugs n more hugs
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beck-your dentist story had me on the edge of my seat. I actually had my hand over my mouth, kind of oh no/moaning when I read the end! (Good thing my coworkers already know I'm crazy.) What a blessing the receptionist was trying to help you, but Hollywood couldn't write a worse ending. Hugs.
cmag-the next six months might bring some changes in your Dad, and even in your step mother. Her prognosis may change the roles everyone has played. Hugs.
lildeb-Oh boy, we are both in the dog house, aren't we? Let's have a party - I'll set up a humidifer with beck's herbs, and you invite the Agency lady LOL My sis is rescuing me - telling Mom I asked her where to buy one. I can see if she can make up a story for you, too! :)
Crabby today - I wonder why. So I sulked a bit at work this morning. Trying to get out of this mood, though. Will need to be on my toes for dinner tonight.
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Beck, it sounds like to me that your son is mentally ill, with perhaps bipolar disorder. But I am not a doctor, but from my experiences in life, that's what it sounds like. Pity the wife to be. If he is that fickle, I don't give the mrrge a chance.
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OMG...u ladies r better than that first cup of coffee!!! Sry for the disappointing ending on my "day at the dentist "... but the fact that the story had someone(Notlike) at the edge of their seat jst confirms to me that we are ALL in desperate need of more "time outs"..I'll wrk on my story telling skills...but I'm warning u ...it could get ugly..lol..lol
Brandy...your response to my son's behavior jst saved me a trip to my shrink!!!! Thanku for saving me the trip n the bill..love that!
Hope you all have a good day...I'm getting all dressed up to go grocery shopping for mom...yet again..(I go everyday..) Gotta look good sqeezin the melons!! Hugs
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Beck, there is nothing wrong with your son, if he's like mine, in his mind he's justified... and I have been on a roller coaster most of my son's adult(I use that term loosely....) life, no matter who you are, no matter how right you think you are, you get a chance to make things right.... that is my prayer for my son right now... a new begining.... At least you have your husband to stand by you.... and to stand up for you.... so hopefully one day your son will condsider another way to be to his mom.... are you on FB???
Yeah you totally got busted didn't you.... did you feel like a bad little girl with her hand in the cookie jar when you saw them setting there????? So many moms on here like Notlike's Mom, and I work for her sister, remember...lol....that's why Notlike and I are cousins and Cousin IT, well we all need a very hairy cousin...And if Beck can come up with some 'HERBS' that would make us ALL happy then I want to be invited to the party....I've been clean for over 28 years, breathing VAPOR doesn't count does it?????????? But officer, it's kind of hard NOT to inhale VAPOR.....think they'll go for it?????
Son's surgery is next Tues. on his arm, Dr's appt today and the Dr. looked over all the paper work from Workmen's Comp, not one word about a broken arm.... can ya'll say LITIGATION..... This is simply about doing the right things for the right reasons, here it is 6 weeks after the wreck, will be 7 by the time he has the surgery, and no matter what, it's not ok to send someone home with a broken arm..... but getting him well is priorty... made him walk up the ramp to the Dr's office today, but got the wheelchair to come back down...didn't want him doing a header on those crutches and needing more stuff done to him.... He said he didn't want to mess up his pretty face....lol, but then I reminded him of having a seizure in Dec, doing a header on a tile floor and breaking his nose..... so, not much left that he hasn't broken....
Have no idea how we are going to get him in his house Tues. after the surgery.... left leg non weight bearing and a brand new suregery on his right arm.... this should be interesting..... He' 6ft tall and weighs 180.... and of course no family to be seen or heard from.....I'll figure out something..... any suggestions????
Ok, been up since 2;30 this morning, I'm beat, check back in later... love and hugs....
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Hey everyone :-)...took granny to the kidney dr yesterday and her report was the best its ever been!! Pawpaw was mad at us cause we left him home with a sitte. So today i took him out, we went to the pharmacy and to get lunch. I guess he thinks its easy on me to take them both out..both use walkers and not that strong. I think at times they(all my family) thinks i am wonder woman...at times i am i guess...wondering why the heck mo one helps me. But today i decided to take it easy only doing things i have too!!!
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notlikemom, It will be interesting to see what changes take place in my step-mother and dad over these next 6 months as well as after her death. I expect him to go to assisted living like he's wanted to contrary to her and they both have long term care insurance.
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beck-keep telling us stories...I'm stocking up on popcorn! And of course, Ladee, you and everyone else is invited to the party! We'll even invite the cops, and don't forget we should invite the dentist, too! LOL (for those of you who are newer here, you are now experiencing the Dark Side. We go to the DS occationally, and we really are Just Kidding! But it helps to have the laughs sometimes.)
Cmag-please keep us posted on how things change in your family. More hugs.
crs-glad you got good news from the doc. Two for one is good for sales, not when moving people around! Nice though, that you could take him seperately today.
Well, I survived my dinner out with the parents. Either she's dropping the fact that I talked to my sis, or I'll hear more about it when the meter comes in the mail. I can't wait, not.
The very nice neighbor son just mowed my front yard, since hubby is gone. Maybe tomorrow I can get the rest of the flowers planted before they die in their pots. And I need to go through Dad's meds, because so far this week (is it only Wednesday?) he's found two he's out of and the prescriptions are expired.
Goodnight, and better tomorrows.
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ladee.....call the local fire and/or EMS and ask for lift assist.....they should be more than willing to help you.
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Jam, will it cost anything, I thought about that, two great minds working together... scairy thought huh?....
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bilmo, I'm not even sure I know who you are, have you posted on YOU before? I don't mean to be insensitive, but many come and go on here.... who has thrown insults your way? No one on this thread I know.... sorry you don't feel this is a safe place to post... I have wonderful loving supportive friends here, maybe you could try again.... just a thought.....hugs to you.
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bilmo2012, sounds like you need to WHINE tonight. So, go ahead and whine.
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bilmo.....my philosophy is if I haven't pissed off at least one person today....my day isn't complete....:) who's Wheaties did you step in? You sound really down and having a terrible day....would you care to share? Maybe we can help you to feel better.

ladee.....when you call for assistance ask if they charge. Most entities will give an assist just as a courtesy....although there are some that charge a "response fee".
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I havent been able to post much and I barely write directly to one person but this is the place to vent and let go. Yes, its ok to whine I do it all the time cuz of how difficult my situation is and if I insulted you I apologized. Right now I been trying to straighten my son's attitude and trying to get his bedtime back on schedule. He is 5 yrs old and throws fits like he is 3 yrs old. He does so much whining and arguing with everyone . He still going on ....have to stop it before he starts school. He has gone beyond my nerves here lately. I got him in time out and hoping he goes to sleep.
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Well I was going to slip in here tonight and be a troll like I've been doing alot lately. I've been too exhausted to post, but I see my good friend bilmo has come to the right place finally where he can freely express himself and not be judged. Bill and I have shared alot lately on his thread, and I have been shocked and dismayed at some of the unfeeling, inconsiderate people on his thread. I think if they had nothing supportive to say they should have kept their damn mouths shut. Although I did encounter more ugliness on another thread when a women said she did not feel comfortable fulfilling her grandmothers wish of her being there with her children when she died. Some people were so vicious telling her how selfish and inconsiderate she was. I love bilmo, I think he has a great sense of humor. It sounds like you are having a really dark day, and I hope things will turn around for you. I'm praying for a good outcome at your meeting on the 19th with your evil siblings and I hope you get some financial relief soon. I have been thanking God today for all his blessings. I've tried to seen the good in whats been happening here for it could have been much worse. I'll start with today and work backwards. The water pump went out in the middle of the night so we had no water. Blessing 1. we are technically part owners of the well next door even though they tore down the house last year. We have electricity running to it,(the pump) so we hooked up a couple of garden hoses and they reached to the front porch, so I was able to fill a bucket to flush the toilets. Blessing 2. The same neighbor gave us a water pump a couple of years ago and its been sitting in the garage. Blessing 3. My brother-in-law whose wife I am no longer speaking to hooked us up with an honest and reasonalbe plumber. I had Mom call and do the asking. B-I-L who works at an HVAC-pluming supply store said it would have cost over $400. for the pump. We had to pay $285. total, but I am grateful I had been putting money in savings, and we had it. I know alot of people can't afford it when things go wrong. Blessing 4. I went on facebook, and thats where I had to learn that my nephew had been injured in Afghanistan by an IED. I'm told thats a roadside bomb. He has a severe concussion, bruises and scrapes, but he is ALIVE. So I am grateful for that. I was fuming that no one thought enough of Grandma to give us a call, and I had to learn about it on facebook. Blessing 5. We had a cardioligist visit Tues and he said he thought Mom was doing well even though her blood pressure was 180/90. He didn't seem to worried about that, and that kind of concerns me. He did change her meds to a stronger kind, and he took her off the one that controls her heartrate. Blessing 6.Monday we saw the retina specialist and she said Mom's macular degeneration is the dry kind and it should not get much worse than it already has. She says eye vitamins are the best treatment, so she at least doesn't have to go through getting shots in the eye. I can't believe I'm typing this book, I'm so damned exhausted. I tried to catch up on the laundry after the pump was fixed, and it seemed it took forever to clean the kitchen. Had to do the laundry because Mom refuses to wear a depends, and she has to have a water pill and she cannot get her pants down fast enough and she went through four pair of pants today. She would be absolutely mortified to know I told another living soul her personal problems. I know I'm safe with you all. Since finding this site I know I have become more patient and kind with my mom because I read how many of you are dealing with mean ungrateful parents. Bilmo, please come back and stay with us, I have found sanity here. I am known here as hairy cousin "IT" please don't ask why. Ladee, I love reading your posts, you always make me smile. I'm praying for you and your son. I don't want to give you all the impression I'm all churchy, I don't go, but I do believe in the power of prayer and meditation. Love and Light. IT.
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Bilmo, we are a bunch of whiners here too, rarely, if ever is there ugliness on this thread... and yes the world is an ugly place.. but at the same time there are people who do see the kitties playing and the tiny wildflowers in the yard... most of us here on this thread appreciate this kind of thing... none of us here are ten foot tall and bullet proof, sounds too self righteous for us.... we are just plain folks with large hearts, too much responsiblity, and we have come together on this thread that Jam provided for us, and we whine, we laugh, we see the light at the end of the tunnel.... and yes there are viscious people in the world and some have landed on this sight... but we welcome all who need a place to put there feelings and a soft place to land after a hard day.... I would not be who I am without some of the friends I have made here....so maybe you will give yourself a chance and come back and see that all is not dark and evil in the land of Caregiving....and in regard to your "inner monster' well, keep that bad boy handy.... we all have one, just not everyone owns it....so hope after watching the kitties play and hopefully some rest, you will see this as the land of people who really do care.... I have nothing but positive things to say about the folks on this thread.... I wouldn't be here myself if it were any other way... I need friends, laughter, hope, and more laughter.... so hope you give yourself a chance to see not all threads are created equal.... hugs to you if you want them.... and by the way, this thread was started because of ugliness elsewhere on this sight... so see.... there are good and caring people in the world, you didn't post here last night by accident....
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Cousin IT, you had an awful time there didn't you... sorry, seems when one thing goes wrong, it all goes to hell... thanks for the thoughts and well wishes for my son... His daugher is getting to come visit him this weekend... my little grandangel is just what we need right now.... I will tell him you are sending thoughts and prayers for him....He knows how much all of you mean to me.... he hears me speak of our laughter all the time... I don't tell him the personal stuff, and some of what we talk about here would smooth gross him out..lol...
But this is one place I get to be me, not mom, not professional caregiver, not anything but a tired person needing support... and it is here...Thanks again Jam, for providing us a safe place... gotta get going, another long day....hugs and angels to everyone....
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One last thing, haven't had time to go to the Laundromat, so my wrinkled clothes will look like my wrinkled face, it's sorta like camoflauge....maybe M won't be able to see me and I will have a good day.... love ya'll
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Even though my situation may not be as difficult as others. I feel like my life has passed me by and have regrets. I am sad today and tired of the stress and the emotional side to watching over my mother. I am blessed that she goes to daycare during the day. I do not have much energy lately and do not sleep well. I worry that she will not be ready to go to the daycare so I get up even before she does to make sure she is .
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Good Morning! After reading some of the posts I think it's time to make the creation of this thread a little clearer for those who don't know how it came to be. First, we all know how difficult care giving is, the daily care is different yet similar in some aspects for all of us. The website was created just for the purposes of aging and caring for those with infirmities. If care giving was all lightness and love, as some would have us believe, there wouldn't be a need for websites and it would prove that all the rest of us are nuts! The one thing that is for certain, is that not a single one of us knows what goes on in your home or life....we only know what you choose to tell and share with us. There are some who take that limited knowledge and in their ignorance create a lot of strife....and unfortunately they don't stop with just one. Yes, I originally began posting elsewhere and soon encountered that ignorance, thus I felt the need to make a safe place where a care giver can come to talk about true feelings and the burdens of care giving. That includes the use of humor, the Dark Side and wherever else your mind might start to wander. If anyone's postings start to harm the others here then that person will be asked to stop posting. We come here for assistance and understanding......not to be looked down on because we all know care giving is not running through a field of daisies with flowers in our hair.

bilmo.......I understand exactly what you are talking about. I, too, was treated horribly by ignorance of my situation and through it all the one thing that bothered me the most? That person was responsible for someone else and to me that made them a horrid care giver. A gold digger? Pretty harsh terms for someone to use simply because we don't want to see our loved ones life savings flushed down the toilet. So I'm right there with you, call me one too!

Okay, I'm climbing down off my soap box now........I hope you all have a wonderful, productive day....sending hugs to each of you!
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Morning and welcome tshirtlady.......I will have to figure out a nickname......yes, feels like all of a sudden you raise your head and a year has passed. I started caring for my mil right in the middle of being injured at work and having to retire on a disability, and I'm now working on almost 3 yrs and she is in a NH since last Oct. Where the heck has the time gone? A year after I retired, my husband retired and what should have been "our" time, became more time devoted to care giving. I admit to feeling a sense of relief when we placed her in the NH.....there is only so much we can do before it starts to affect us mentally and physically. What are you doing for YOU? Taking vitamins, eating well, getting naps when Mom is gone? Do you have any outside activities that you like to do? Come and tell us more......we'll leave the light on for you!
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Well ladies I so love reading these posts! This is such a good support group! Love to all of you!

Haven't posted much about my mom lately. I'll refresh by saying she is in rehab after falling in the small yard of her condo on March 29. Broke her femor and fractured her hip at 90! Been complaining about everything. Goes to the bathroom 10 to 11 times per night. Been through two rounds of antibiotics for UTI. Wearing the aides out! She begins toe-touch on May 25. Hope she has enough mental capacity to understand what that means and doesn't rebrake her leg! Now on to my real problem of the day!

Well I married Peter Pan 8 years ago! Peter is currently on a golf trip and has another one planned the first week of June! Only requirement I had from Petie was that he leave his cell on just in case of emergency! Petie has one son (thank God) who hates me! The one son has three daughters (school age). I've tried numerous times to get close and have a relationship. Never happened. In fact, haven't seen them since Christmas eve! No phone calls - nothing! My husband was invited for Christmas eve and I assumed that meant me as well. When we arrived, there was no offer of coffee, soft drink - nothing! They even went so far as to go upstairs and put on their pajamas! Even gave me some of my gifts to take back! I swore I'd never be in their company again! These people have been incredibly rude to me for the last 10 years! I've hung in there for Peter's sake! Yesterday, I get an email asking me to babysit for 4 days! Un (friggin) believeable! I fired it back - Full Plate-Can't Help!

I'd like your thoughts here! Thanks all! I just can't believe people have such nerve!
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golfgirl.................as soon as I get finished doing my dancing around the room for you and give you a WOOT WOOT WOOT..............I just have to say inconsiderate snots those step-kids are and I'm very proud of you. It never ceases to amaze me that some kids think our names are mat....as in doormat........Now my question is...where are you going on those days they want you to sit? Or the first week in June? Please don't tell me you are staying home.....no, no girlfriend...go someplace, anyplace! I sympathize because I have 2 daughters who stopped speaking to me years ago.....one because I asked her what she had done during the day because my house was dirty and I paid her to clean weekly and the other one because she was trying to be someone she wasn't....fit in with a snobby crowd....and a teenager didn't fit in with that.....so she was dumping her daughter with a father that she had been kept from for years....I disagreed with the way it was handled....so now I'm a useless Mom....:( The only thing I regret is the loss of grandchildren in my life.....out of 8 I have one I still see constantly and she is my son's.

bilmo....don't kill yourself trying to get recognition from siblings....they don't know you exist until "after"...if you know what I mean....then they will dislike you because they will see you as getting what should be theirs. I have 2 younger siblings that I spoke to, not on a regular basis unless one of them wanted something, but when my Mom passed away in 2010 they turned on me like I was a snake. I was her main care giver, even though she was in a NH which was her preference, and sister rarely saw her....brother never. And they had already "borrowed" a big chunk of money that she got when her husband died.....so what the hell? Come back and pull up a chair....
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