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I hear thunder as I write, rain here too.... Thank God.....
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Well just got back from dropping connor off at vacation bible school. He is with my brother and his wife. So i am home alone!!!! (except for lily) just us girls here. Boy this doesn't happen often. Seems quite strange. But hubby will be home in about 30 mins. I talked to sis today and she said that bil wasn't feeling good still. And she said that the dr came in and told them they were going to try to save as much as they could. I suppose they were talking about his foot. I was like oh my lord!!!!Maybe they were just talking about his toes. I could tell sis was really stressed today cause she was saying that she has got to figure out what to do. Also she said that bil (chip) and dad were not talking much. I think she thinks they are both depressed and she is worried about them. And i just told her that. That they are probably worried about her because they know she has already got so much on her and they are both just trying to process all of it.
I know that if bil moved in with dad or vice versa that it probably would be bad and it would not work out but i have just been trying to figure out a solution to it all. The thing is that sis works long hours. 12 hour days some days and others are 9 hour days. Then she has been staying at night with dad so she would not hardly see hubby that much and she already feels like he is in this situation because she neglected him when she knew that he had drainage coming from his foot. And i know she is not going to go back to how things were for awhile. She lives a block away from dads house within walking distance. Thats why i don't understand why she just doesn't leave dad there at night and go home. She could be back over there at dads in two shakes of a lamb tail if he needed her. And he knows how to dial a telephone. Sometimes she is as hardheaded as he is. And i could go check on bil and see if he needed anything during the day since i will be right there at him. But sis will run herself ragged between the two houses. She already had two drs appt for herself this month for blood in her urine. Suppose to get a ct scan of her kidneys and have another procedure to figure out what is going on. And she has cancelled both of them. She just started going back to the dr a couple of months ago, she hasn't been to one in a very, very, very long time. I sure as shit don't need her to get down and out. Cause if she does i will be checking myself into the 5 star dorothy dix hotel or the closest one i can find. Stormy's vacation spot!!!!!! As for what bil would think of him and dad moving into the same house he would not like that at all. I don't think he would like that on a good day let alone with him hurting and feeling like shit. But sis and i have just been trying to weigh out all the options and possibilities right now. We still do not know what we are going to do. If i hear of anything i will let ya'll know. Thanks everyone for the suggestions i appreciate them. Love and hugs stormyyy
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Stormy: You hang in there. How sweet that Connor is going to vacation bible school and you have a few hours with just you and Lily. Perfect. I feel so sorry for your sis. She has the weight on her shoulders and I can see why you don't want to step up and be her twin. Worst case scenario, Stormy: your sis needs medical attention and can't deal with dad. Your father goes to a facility for care. I know your sis won't like it, but it is an alternative that can work. So don't think there is not a way out. You may have to be the strong one to bring reason to the situation.

Your sis has run herself into the ground and my heart really goes out to her. None of us are robots who can just go on and on and on. Bless her, I'm sure she does feel like she neglected her husband. I feel like I have neglected mine, so I can relate.

Just a heads up to all of you, I have been really struggling lately. We have decided to put my dad in NH care. His medicaid application has been approved and I feel sick about placing him and also hopeful about reclaiming my life. The feeling sick part has been ripping me apart lately. I know I've reached my limit, but I feel so bad for my dad. It's hard to reconcile the knowing it's right for us and the sadness i feel for him. I haven't talked about this very much until the last day or two. It seemed so close to the bone for me that I was at a loss as to what to say or who would understand.

Lately, I've been kind of hard on people on various threads. Doing the soap box, tough love stuff and Ladee was kind enough to gently remind me that I was being a bit of a hard ass. Not her exact words by any means, but I appreciated her comments because they were right and also that she cared about what I was going through.

Right now, I am pissed off, sad and hopeful, but at least I am talking about it.

Sending you all love and comfort and some relief from the stress, Cattails.
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There ya go Cat, sharing makes it not weigh as much.... that's what we are here for, to help each other....The purpose for this whole site, so we are not alone... and yes we may be alone in our homes. but we are not alone in spirit.... I have made life long friends here, women that I treasure , respect and trust...It didn't happen over night... it took sharing the good, the bad and the ugly... sadness, hurt, laughter, exhaustion.... and I wouldn't trade one of those women for anything in this world....
And I would be worried if you weren't feeling sad... and I know you know this in your head, but not in your heart yet, you are NOT abandoning you dad.... you are placing him where he will get good care, attention, all the things he needs... and you are going to grieve this... it's normal and naturual... it's not fun, but it is normal.... so try to forgive yourself for being human...... my personal belief is we are born spiritual and spend the time we have on earth trying to accept our humaness.....so hope you have some sort of Higher Power to give this too, and keep sharing with us.... and it will get different... I don't say it will get better, I hate that saying... it gets DIFFERENT , and becomes something we can live with..... so be kinder to yourself..... and keep us updated as to how things are going and how you are.... hugs across the miles to you...
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Cattails~I think this is the first time (at least for me to read) you have shared your pain. You have always been there for so many of us and I have always appreciated your words. I know how hard it is to place a loved one in a NH. When my dad was placed, it broke my heart. I knew it was for the best because my mother could not handle him at home anymore. Mother did keep him at home until the Alzheimer's was advanced enough he no longer knew our names. I knew my mother was struggling with his care and it was the best decision. I know you have given so much to your dad and the time has come to place him where he will continue to get good care with you overseeing. You will still be involved in his care, visiting him and your time with him will be different but in time, you will be more relaxed to enjoy a closeness with him on a whole new level. Go easy on yourself because you have been a wonderful daughter! Bless you my dear friend and continue to share your heart♥♥!
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cattails, thanks for opening your heart and letting us know your pain. It is sad when a parent has to go to a nursing home, but on the other hand if they need that level of care, it's the place for them to be.

It almost sounds to me like you have some survivor guilt.

What you did in placing him in the NH under the circumstances was the most loving thing you could do for both him and yourself, plus your husband.

One recommendation that I have is to focus more on he is where he can receive the level of care he now needs; you can reclaim some of your life; you and your husband can enjoy more of your retirement now; you can reconnect with your husband, and you can take better care of you.

If this deep sadness continues to make you feel sick to the point that you are not able to move forward from this point, then my other suggestion is to find someone to talk face to face about this. It also sounds like your anticipatory grief has skyrocketed for going to a NH has a finality to it that going to rehab does not. This is all sad, but know that you are not alone.

Changing the subject, sometimes, I think we caregivers want to be the super caring adult child, sort of like some parents want to be a super parent for their own children, but neither is possible or healthy. People can loose touch with their spouses in either raising children or in taking care of an elderly parent. The former, I've seen. The latter, I've experienced, but not anymore. One sad plight that I've read about on this sight but never seen are parents who loose touch with their grown children and young grandchildren because of their care giving situation or an over focus on it.

Well, it is very late and I'm not sleeping well for some reason. So, I will try to go back to sleep.

I hope something that I've written is helpful.
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Well, I started writing a long post to you guys and then put it aside for a moment and now it's gone. SHIT. I hate when that happens. Had lots of good stuff in it. It's late now and I'm up to late again. Just let me say thank you to Sharynmarie, Ladee, and Cmagnum. Thank you for your love and support. I will write more.

Love, Cattails.
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Well, it's 450 am. cn't sleep cuz my brain is too busy. aug 18 will b one year since a dr from the va told me and my sis to take mom home and let her die. Well, that didn't happen. we got her to a civilian hosp er and they saved her life as by then her heart rate was below 32. I am a veteran as mom is. as past soldiers and knowing present soldiers, this va just doesn't cut it. today sis and i r going to battle with the va. we r calling it Operation Save Mom's Life. this is the only person in my life that i would die for, so they better buckle up cuz it's going to get bumpy. We have made sure that civilian specialists who treated her in multiple hosp stays r aware of situation. They have all told us to b very careful with decisions from some va drs. Ladee if ure island is still up and running, i'd like to reserve a spot for me and Christian Kane as J Morgan has to work this coming weekend. lol I have to find a way to talk to these bastards without any tears. they see as a sign of weakness. I fought for pts as an OTR, but this is different cuz it's my mom. Does this website have a bail fund just in case? Peace to u all today. xxx Karen
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Cat, see, it's ok to not be super human... every single one of us knows what you are feeling...
When my lady Ruth died, I could not have put one foot in front of the other without the love and support on this sight, I didn't have time to grieve as I had to get another job, and the following year was unbelievably hard.... and I'm just a paid cariegiver... but love is love... doesn't matter who the sender or reciever is.... I had guilt that I didn't push harder for the family to understand what could have been prevented... but with all that being said... things work out just as they are supposed to.... we each have our own lessons to learn with each situation we find ourself in.....we are only alone on this journey if we choose to be... too many folks on here with tons of love and support, regardless of how tired, worn out, sick of poop, and hearing the same question asked a million times... we are here for each other.... always.... so I appreciate that you took the risk to get vulnerable and share what is going on.... it won't be easy, but it is do-able... easy is not a word caregivers know or use.... so keep coming back, and as Jam says, we'll leave the light on for ya.... hugs

Lady, the island is still there... and give the VA hell, you know how it works, and let us know what happens.... and no we don't have a bail fund, but we do have one unbelievable prayer chain.....and I know you wouldn't give them the satisfaction of letting them put you in jail.... You'll be able to make more noise on the outside... so let us know how it went.... hugs to you this morning....

The new lady is going to work out perfect... she brings a very positive energy to the situation, and I need that also.... so now I won't worry about S and M and also won't feel so stretched between my son and them everyday... Son started serious PT yesterday... three months after the wreck... he seemed in really good spirits yesterday... so prayers for my bag of broken bones son..... these past few months have been so hard, couldn't have done without ya'll.... love and deep appreciation for all of you....
And a special shout out to Beck for defending me on another thread, I made a typo and got 'slapped', but I apologized, that 's all I can do, it was a human mistake.... I accept my humaness, don't think the lady that 'slapped' me does, but that's ok too... it's just called LIFE.....
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Hello to all my cyber-friends. I haven't caught up on posts, but will soon. Please know I am thinking of you all and sending hugs.
Yesterday was a bad day. Too many questions and not enough answers. Dad does not have a bowel infection. That's good, but also bad, because that would be simple enough to treat. So they still don't know what is wrong with him. Now they want to do a colonoscopy, which he can't have for at least a week, because he has to stop taking Plavix first. And the doc wants serious sedation during the procedure, so he has to be cleared first, and there are risks. So more waiting, and at this point, I don't think whatever answers we get will be good. It's not normal to have the diarrhea for weeks (this is week #4). The choices of what could be causing this are getting slimmer, and more serious. He got a new med yesterday to help stop him up, but that doesn't seem to be working, either.
Mom is scared. She does not like depending on me, but Dad is too sick to do much for her. So there's lots going on, with trying to ease her into this. She keeps pushing him to do stuff, and I have to keep gently pushing back.
Worry, stress, fear...my companions right now.
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Notlike, and you have us as companions also, and we can help you carry that load... I am so sorry to hear this bad news about Dad..... and I know how much you love your dad, so hopefully Mom won't push too hard and have to find out how hard you can push back if you need to..... I understand that you need to keep a balance here, but at the same time, there is only one of you... pick your battles, and know we are standing behind you.... Prayers for your dad. Let us know something. You are loved Notlike, and my heart hurts for you today.... lots of love and hugs..... LOTS....
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Notlike..here for you! Know the worry and fear..dad is up and down with the stomach problems.. Last night he had another bad bowel and threw up. The meds to stop him up didn't work either. I don't know if the diverticulitis is just keeping his colon inflamed or if there is something else going on. Take it one day at a time dear one.
Ladee so glad to hear lady will work out. That will give you much needed rest physically and emotionally.
Stormy..you guys are in prayers. You are a special one.
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Morning......would y'all send some of that rain to me....please??? It has cooled down here a lot, but haven't had the rain, cloudy for most of yesterday, but is still bone dry out there. I let the dogs out last evening and running across the lower yard are 3 little raccoons racing for the pond to get a drink......have lived here 9 yrs and that's the first time I've ever seen that. I imagine the creek that borders our property has dried up. ladee is correct......my brain has been on getting a shower without leaks......keeping my fingers crossed that what he did yesterday worked and everything is sealed today.

Such pain and turmoil going on this morning and my heart is with each of you. I gave up my active care giving last Oct when hubby says "we can't do this anymore because Mom is going to really hurt herself"....and he knew I wasn't able to pick her up and do all the physical things that needed done. It all happened so fast that I really didn't have time to think about it beforehand. One think to keep in mind is that by the time this happens, our loved one's mind is in such a place that they aren't aware of what is going on. Prior to placement the col would tell us "don't ever put me in a home, I'll just die"....well it's been 9 mo and she's still kicking! Sure, she tells me every time I talk to her ON THE PHONE that "I'm incarcerated here"....never in person, she always has a smile on her face. The only guilt I felt was when she got pneumonia about a month after placement...but I got over that fast. Wasn't my fault and she might have gotten it being at home. And the other feeling that went through me, and one that a lot of people would never admit to for someone else shaming them, is relief. Yes, knowing I didn't have to start the bedtime routine at 10pm.....and not get to bed myself until after midnight. I didn't have to look forward to wiping the poop from every orifice, I could fix what I wanted to eat, I didn't have to make arrangements for her when I needed to run errands, I could walk outside and know I wouldn't find her lying in the grass or over the edge of the pond or smeared across the highway. And visiting with her became a joy immediately......the stress of the care giving was gone and I could enjoy her company again. So it doesn't have to be a stress-filled situation if you don't allow it. Go into it with a positive attitude and it works!

stormy........I may be overstepping things here but from what I am reading no matter what happens, sis is going to do things the way she wants them, even putting her own health at risk, so maybe you should stop worrying and trying to come up with solutions.....isn't going to matter in the end. Until sis understands that she can't take care of everyone, she is going to try, just love her and be there for her because she will get too tired one of these days and will need you to lean on, finally. I care about you.....or I wouldn't fuss at you!
lady........good luck with the VA and let us know how things come out......just in case we need to bring you a cake in seeme's spa....:)
notlike.....sending prayers that Dad starts to feel better soon and hoping there is a simple reason for his illness.
beck.....how is your hand? Maybe if I have no shower leaks today my brain will start to work on making fun of you...:) I sympathize with you though....I've had surgery twice on my left thumb and the pain afterwards drove me straight up a wall!
ladee......send some of that rain this way please!!!! Glad to hear the other person is working out....and good thing son finally got started on PT.
cmag...........cow pattie......yippee!
Did I leave anyone out.....it's not intentional.....thinking of you all!
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Vic......I apologize for not mentioning you above, I seem to have this large picture of a workable shower in my brain that takes precedence over everything else.....is Dad having a "tic attack"? Is he on medication for it? The Flagyl is the worst part of the treatment I think. How about using probiotics? Sometimes just putting the good bacteria back in will help. How are you doing? Thinking about you!
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You forgot me...... boo hoo...
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I just want to say THANK YOU for all of you who came to my rescue and my defense in my blunder on the "emotional abuse' thread.... Honestly I am overwhelmed to see how some of you feel about me... see, I just go thru life being me, I don't like to hurt people, and I am happy that that comes thru to ya'll... Ya'll just don't know how ya'll words have affected me... for all the gazillion times I have wondered about my self worth when I was younger, I am so grateful I gave myself permission to just be ME, and apparently, it IS good enough..... thank you all so much, this has been very humbling for me..... love you all bigger than the sky....
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Ladee-I didn't read the other thread, but I love you always anyway! You being you makes my day. You are the kind of companion I need.
Vic-Thanks, hon. I am sort of worried about how I will handle the both of them at once. What you do every day is amazing. Hugs.
Jam - words of wisdom, even without a real shower :)
Everyone else - not forgetting you, just very tired. I know we all have things we're facing. My heart goes out to each and every one of you.
Life as I knew it is over for now. No more Dad to drive them to appointments and shopping. I can't let him - he's too sick and weak. Wondering if/when I will have to have him admitted, but holding his own for now. Doc is doing a 24 stool test to see how much he really is absorbing from what he eats. Such fun to collect.
After some pushing, I got his colonoscopy scheduled for next Monday. They first said they were full until the 27th, but I told him he'll be an inpatient by then if they don't figure this out. Pills still aren't helping. I hate to see him like this. That's the worst part.
I'm getting a taste of not having a minute to myself. Pick up lab stuff on the way home, start dinner for all, water their garden, finish dinner, show them neice's email pix, ect, ect. And try to soothe his fears. And that was the first 2 hours after I got home! Really not complaining, just making the time adjustment. Mom has 2 routine appointments I would have skipped comign up, which I will have to take her to now. Plus Dad's colonoscopy. I hope we get some answers and they can make him feel better.
Sorry for the jumbled post. Everything feels all mushed together and crazy right now. No wonder I feel like crying all day long.
Goodnight, and better tomorrows.
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Go ahead and cry Notlike, those tears cleanse our stress a little, water our soul, get us prepared for the next thing... I know you are overwhelmed with it all, and working too.... don't forget about you..... It amazes me the load you and Vic are carrying, Bookworm too and all the others taking care of two..... Just know we are here for you, tears and all... not in our makeup to never get a break... so take a few minutes for you.... love, hugs, prayers and angels....
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Notlike: So sorry about your dad. I'm wishing the best for him and your family.

Placing my dad tomorrow morning. I am so exhausted. Going to bed early tonight.

Hugs and Prayers to all.

Cattails
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Prayers for you Cat.... let us know how things go.... you are doing the right thing... no one said doing the right thing would always feel good... thinking of you....
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Notlike...my heart aches for u n wat u r going thru. I kno how all consuming things get for me wen dad is not well...it seems more than i can bear. To watch dad suffer is jst the hardest thing...U have been so strong n so wonderful. I think of u always n pray even more so. U, surely, have the heart of an angel...much love n huge hugs

Cattails..u have been heavy on my mind all day today. I've wanted to post to u, but couldnt find the words that my heart was feeling...i jst kept crying.. I cannot imagine the emotions that u r having about dad, but i kno that u have been the most loving n wonderful daughter whose priority has always been for nothing but the best care possible for ur dad. I kno that 2moro will b difficult n emotional, but i hope u can come to a place of peace about the decision. As loving caregivers, we have to realize that wen "we" can no longer give the best care necessary for r loved ones, that we are still doing the most loving and compassionate thing we can do by knowing wen it is time to place them elsewhere. Placement in a NH does not mean we failed as a caregiver, it means we love them enough to know wen we must pass the torch to those who can carry on wat we have begun. I admire ur courage n i will b praying for u that things go well. Please let us kno.. sending u much love n more hugs than i can hold!!
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Cat, like Beck, I wanted to comment but find it difficult. I try to imagine what it would be like to put a loving parent in NH. I find it very difficult. However, as I was reading Meno's comments today about the pros/cons of putting a parent in NH, and the Real Reasons for doing so, I was thinking of you. I thought of what Meno said matter-of-factly about the time when it will be his time to go there too. You see, even he doesn't expect his daughter to care for him all the way to the end. I think that no matter what you do, you will feel bad. It's like we feel that we have failed the parent by not taking care of them to the end - when by doing so may be the death of us (as most caregivers die before their patient.) I think, basing on my heart, that as long as you did your best to care for your dad, and he's reached a stage where he's better if outside help intervenes for BOTH of your health and happiness, then you're doing the right thing. Just make it a goal that each time you visit your dad, you make it a special day. Take care....Hugs to you!!
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Ladee didn't read other thread but you are the best..you must just have been sleeping when you posted! Love ya.
Cat tails my thoughts and prayers are with you today
Notlike good for you! Hope colonoscopy shows something..and collecting poop! Eww but we do what we have to.
Jam..will look up tic fever ..dad is taking probiotics..he drank plenty yesterday. Had another water bowel all over. Wish I could fix it. Get tests done tec but he wouldn't make it through anesthesia (sp?). Feel so powerless but blessed. Will keep racking my brain. Today is moms birthday! 92! Oh my! Notlike thankfully she can still do for herself. I can't imagine having both unable like...darn can't remember her name..but both her parents are bedridden God Bless her!!
We all do the best we can and pray it is enough. Love y'all hope the day is as good as it can be and we all remember to breath!
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Jam..don't think that is what is going on..dad doesn't have fever just complains about stomach hurting. Then we don't make it to the bed before I can change him. He has had colon cancer years ago but don't think that s what is going on. Hubby thinks maybe he ate too much but not sure about that either. Make be his diverticulitis is still there. Don't really know..
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Vic.....the "tic" will never go away unless Dad has surgery....and that's not a guarantee. Actually everyone has a pouch or more on their colon, just some are lucky enough to never have problems. The first time I had an attack I didn't run a fever either....but I did the second time. Since then if I have symptoms start I put myself on Flagyl and Cipro and knock on wood I've managed to keep it in check. Of course I have to stay away from the "laundry room" then....:(
Very sad yesterday and today I hope I can work myself out of this.....my son was diagnosed with Type II diabetes and it just has me bummed. The only family history was my mother and ex mil......and they were both age-related and weight-related onset.
Also talked with the col and she was calling Target by her father's name, and then she asked about her husband and we had to explain that he passed away in 1997....she couldn't remember he was gone.....:( she was wondering where he was. Target asked her if she remembered any part of sitting in the hospital daily for 7 mo until he passed....not a day.

Hoping you all have a good day. Am going to visit with son later....he started his insulin last night and called his momma to complain about it stinging.....he may be almost 33 y/o, but he's still my baby!
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Ha gotcha Jam..that is what I am concerned about. That the diverticulitis is inflamed yet again. He finished a round of antibiotics a couple of weeks ago..we were good til night before last. Know it never goes away he has had for many years but until recently not too many flare ups.
Am so sorry to hear about your son. My brother was diagnosed awhile back with same. Had my mom bummed for awhile. I think he is doing pretty good as he has changed his eating habits and has lost some weight. He still takes insulin but not much.
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Vic- thank you for the prayers. Sending prayers back for you too.
Notlike- I am sorry your dad is having such a time of it lately. I hope the drs will be able to help him. You are in my prayers!!!
Cat- I am sending your a prayer for strength today as i know it will be difficult day for you. Sending you a (((((((((big hug))))))))))) too!
Jam- You are right about sis, she will wear herself out taking care of dad, hubby and that crazy store. I saw her today and i can tell all of this is wearing on her already. I wish there was more i could do for her but i have so much going on with having to take care of my family and dad that there isn't much time for anything else. She told me that the drs have put in a pic line. I guess for when he comes home. She said that when they put one of those in that, that means they are going to be on iv antibiotics for awhile. And she is trying to get someone to put up a handrailing at her house for when bil comes home. She said they said maybe friday he could go home. Today at 2 they are going in his foot again to debree it. Ya'll pray that everything looks good. Love and hugs stormyy
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Hi to you all. I have a new (?) question to ask !! My wife has moderate dementia and it seems like I am facing new challenges every week !! My latest is that my wife is constantly rubbing her nose and eyes !!!!She claims they are very itchy and so far we haven't found anything to cure . HELP and Thanks
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Vickie Vic, Happy Birthday to Mom..... let us know if ya'll did something special...maybe another round of anti's will help dad... I hope so, I know you are worried...and yes, I think it was early in the morning... don't remember now...
Notlike, Have you heard anything about getting in sooner for your Dad's appt??? Like Vic, I know you are worried about your dad, let us know something...Prayers for you and Vic and your dads.
Stormy, guess you'll just have to let sis crash and burn.... just do what you can do and let go of the rest... easier said than done I know.... but you can't convince her she is killing herself, this just makes me even more grateful that I have learned to say NO....hugs to you
I got the most wonderful surprise today, Meno posted a hug on my wall, I almost cried..... what a sweetheart and so grateful my blunder did not keep his daugher from letting him post again.... so many things he has shared that is making such a difference in how I care for S...... and yesterday was a first.... went to check on him in the bathroom, he was washing his hands in the toilet!!!!! thank God he had already flushed.... but trying to handle that and not embarrass him was a real challenge....that was a knee jerk moment for me... don't know how I managed to not bellow out at him... it would have scaired him, but also embarrassed him.... thanks to Meno, I had a tiny pause there that helped the situation... so now I do bathroom duty, most times he can't find the toilet so I am in there anyway, but i do shut the door and give him privacy.... but am standing outside the door listening... don't want a repeat performance of that.... thought M was going to puke when I told her... and she actually was making jokes today....Isn't God just awesome..... ya never know until you set some boundries with these grumpy elders....
Sure has felt nice to not have to go back these past few days...the new lady is working out great.... again, will give the credit to God.....
Cat, we might not hear from you today, but know I am thinking of you and prayers sent....
Beck, glad you got the new brace so that when you are being a sissy with those panic attacks, deep sigh, you can loosen the brace..... and all this time I thought you were such a brave little girl, hmmm, another illusion destroyed....
Love ya'll, keeping ya'll in my thoughts and prayers.....
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ren, sorry to hear your wife is having this problem... does she have any known allergies, and have eyed drops been tried... you said they haven't found anything to cure it, but is there anything that has at least helped???? Have you tried saline eye wash??? Sometimes as people age they get allergies to the chlorine in the water, try having her wash her face with distilled water... no soap, and a clean fresh soft cloth... let us know how she is... others may have other suggestions also... and good to see you here, come back and let us know how things are.....
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