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Jon Ronson wrote a great book called the psychopath test, and then set about finding some psychopaths to interview. His books are enlightening and funny.
I used to read a lot, but I don!t have the time or concentration these days.

Last night at one am mom rang her bell. She did not even need the potty, she just wanted to sit up. I said no, not at one am! So five minutes later she rang again, and said she wanted to sit up. I pretty much gave her a lecture about daytime and nighttime and how they are different, lol.
And since she like hubby more than me I finally convinced her to at least take pity on him because he had worked so hard all week.
(We caregivers know all we do is sit atound and eat bon bons all day, and we get twice as many bons bons on the weekend, right girls?) LOL.

I just heard her flip her T.V. on... I am praying last nigt was just a little glitch, because as I mentioned in other threads, a few years ago she had a very nasty psychotic break that left the entire family traumatised.

Wish me luck, and remember it's the weekend, so everyone take a couple of days off! HAHAHAHA!
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Jenny - You are quite welcome for the encouraging words. To me this is what this site is all about. I know this site saved me. Give your son an extra hug. You are truly blessed. Your son is trying to tell u something. About the Eucalyptus. I have a oil warmer in my room and plug it in t night it helps me breathe better at night. I also use a netti pot twice a day and it really cleans me out. I got mine at Walgreens. Your GMA is like a big child. My mom took over my life. And mostly that is all I thought about. When I go to the grocery I still think about what mom needs and what she would like ever now. Take care of YOU.
Dared - My Mom hated the gait belt. I told her that lifting her was hurting my back and that is when she agreed to it. I least u have an ipod to work on. Take care of YOU!
Country - I would keep my nail polish on until I had to wear sandals. Take care of YOU!
PC - Vent away. It looks like you deserve it. There has to be something you can do about this. Take care of YOU!
LadeeC- Wow, it looks like you have your I's dotted and your t's crossed. Yes, we do what we have to do. When mom was falling last year that is when she started declining. Take care of YOU!!
Rioblu - I am so sorry you are in a bad state right now. I know I just wanted to get away. I have not even been away for one day in three years. Take care of YOU as best you can!!!
Chrissy - I am so sorry that your is in so much pain. We want to just take the pain away for them. We can only do so much. Mom got a physical therapist and she gave my mom exercises for her back and knees. Can you talk to her doctor about getting her therapists. Also, my Mom used to have me rub icy/hot on her back and knees and it helped. I also think she liked having me touching her and giving her my full attention. Take care of YOU!!
Book - Hey there. I am glad that you are not psychopathic. It helps. It is good that you have that to look at. I don't know if I am there I will have to weigh the Pros and Cons. LOL Take care of YOU!
LadeeM - hey there. Take care of YOU!

I have been doing a lot of work around the house. We have to sell it soon. I took out 6 garbage bags and 2 boxes for the garbage. My arms were hurting. Even a hot bath in Epsom salt did not releave it. I need to relax today. Although I will probably do some things just not as much as yesterday. I had a hankering for a mufflelata yesterday. It was delicious. Full of salt but I did not care. Bro and wife came almost every day this week. I got invited to watch the Saints game to at my brother's but I do not feel like it. I need to take a break from them. I have not have this much contact with them ever. My brother has a short fuse. He even had a fit when I told him not to touch the thermostat. He is not the one that has to pay the bill. He was cold. SO WHAT. He is also very controlling. I had enough of that with Mom. They have taken me out to eat or bringing it to the house. It is all fast food. If they eat like this all the time its no wonder why they both have high blood pressure. We are trying to get things together to sell. Sterling silver and china. We are also trying to sell a painting by my great grandfather. He was the painter for the court of Austria. There are a lot of old coins here too. I got some bad news yesterday. I need three new tires and new shocks. Good Gravy. Also, I have weird feeling in the house now. I keep seeing shadows of something moving. I look and nothing is there. I keep wondering if it is Mom. I feel creepy. It is probably my imagination. I keep thinking I should spend the night somewhere but I am really watching my money. Mom would want me to enjoy life right now. I don't cry unless I am telling someone about Mom. I cried my eyes out when I realized she would not be coming home. Especially at the hospital. Well, one day at a time. I just want to be left alone right now. I have not had that in a long time. I should go watch the game somewhere but I do not feel like it. I might just take a nap and relax. I am going to take care of ME!!!!
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I'm really stressed out and depressed. I had to stop living at my apartment due to secondhand smoke triggering my asthma and am forced to live with my mom...I'm going through menopause and have so much anger....i hate how I react to her needs. I am now working in the morning since I live with her and I feel consumed by her constant needs...

I need to read a book called Boundaries...and learn to say no sometimes...but she is in so much pain....so we decided she needs someone here all day instead of just in the afternoon...I know I'm rambling but need to vent...i know it's my responsibility to go out and socialize and have a life but I'm so depressed I want to isolate...i know that's the last thing I should do!!!

It could be worse....at least she can afford someone to work when I am not...if I had to be full time, my fibromyalgia would be horrible..

Anyway...I am thankful I can spend quality time with mom...we ate out yesterday...and had fun...

Thanks for listening;o))
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nah, smitty, you aren't rambling. hang in there girl.
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book....i checked with an old friend from high school she is a massage therapist and she won't touch my mom because of her arthritis. i would think that would help. i bought my m om a hand massager was only $5 at walmart I thought it might help her...she seemed to like it. Of course since last night was horrible i have gotten bronchial infection and its very hard to get any sleep. had a fever last night, my mom was on a rampage i just wanted to run away...feeling better now got some meds just hoping for some sleep.
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Oh man, I just had the most miserable 3 days of my life. I took my husband to visit my best friend, 2 hours away, for a few days. The second day we were there my husband got sick and threw up all over her bathroom and I had to clean that all up 2 times because he would miss the toilet. Then, I guess due to the illness, he became sort of delirious trying to move her things around and aimlessly walking around and finally peeing in her wicker trash can in the bathroom. She was not in the house when he did that, thank goodness, so I bleached her entire bathroom down and threw away the trash can, threw a bucket in the car and took him home. When I got home, I started throwing up and had the same bug so had to take care of him and me while I was the sickest I have been in years; so bad I could not even hold down a few sips of water, losing 5 lbs in 2 days. I am feeling better today, thank goodness. Life is not easy.
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Photo, sorry to hear you were both so sick, life isn't easy or fair on most days.... glad you are feeling better.... sending hugs.
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StandingAlone,

I was reading back some posts and discovered your mom had passed away.
I am very sorry about this, remember reading how tough this was also for you. May her spirit soar very high!

I am so glad to hear that you have your electricity turned on again.
Hopefully things will start to come together for you and your family.
You and yours are in my thoughts.

Much Love & Light! Margeaux
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Lavendar,

I would like to offer my condolences on the passing of your mother.
May her spirit soar very high.

The grieving process is a very individual journey. Give yourself some time.
It is normal to feel what you are feeling, no less if you and your mom had a good relationship.

You and yours are in my thoughts!
Much Love & Light! Margeaux
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Thank you Ladee M
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Jenny,

I have been reading about your situation with your grandmother.
I completely agree with Assandache about seeing to the POA, and other legal matters as they are going affect you, if you agree to have grandmother living in your home.

My sister took on this difficult task on back in 2007, when she decided to move in w/our mom (92 yrs. w/ALZ), and mom's older sister, with a variety of health ailments the biggest being congestive heart failure. Our aunt was a narcissist, so this didn't make caregiving for her an easy situation, by a long shot.

Our brother at that time was the POA, and I believe MPOA, for both mom and our aunt. Both elders were/are (aunt died 2 yrs., ago), have the financial means to pay hired CG's. But just before my sister moved in w/them, they really were being neglected by the POA brother. He was sticking his hands into their bank accts.,
mis-managing some rentals they owned, but could care less about addressing some escalating health concerns for both of them.

At some point.....POA was taken from my brother and my sister was named.
She did not have however MPOA, for our difficult aunt, who wanted control of those decisions. Of course, she did have it for mom, in her condition. But oh boy,
regarding our aunt, did this lack of the MPOA make things difficult. Here we had an ailing narcissist calling all the shots.

My sister still cares for our mom. She has much of the feelings many caregivers write about here, the frustration, the anger, burn out, etc. She manages the caregiving quite well, even though she is a control freak. But I often wonder also,
how it is in our family......that despite appointments by our parents, legally speaking......how is it that again a female in the family got the job of caregiving?
I go there and relieve my sister, when she needs a break, or I've the extra time to be there, as I live rather far from my mother's home. In our family, my two brothers never take mom over, as in spending the night w/her. So I'm just laying all this out to you, so that you can see there seems to be a pattern here.

It's wonderful that you do this for the grandmother. There is no doubt about that fact. However, I must say that reading what you told us about your young son, and the message he'd like in his lunch box, speaks mountains. He is asking for your attention. As others have said, try to see if you can get some kind of help, or make the proper parties responsible for this elder. It would probably be to your benefit to speak with an attorney. But most of all, remember you do have a little one to deal with. He should be numero uno.

Much Love & Light! Margeaux
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Oh that is horrible you were that sick and had to take care of him also and everything you were going through that happen to me a long time ago it was called the Shanghai flu I had and my two daughter's we were all taking turns in the bathroom and not just throwing up the works high fever and chill's I will never forget it.
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Been caring for my 91 year old MIL for over 5 years...1st 2, we went and cleaned her apartment with her dog that had never been housebroken...YUK...moved her here 3 years ago (with her lousy dog) it took 2 years to get him to try to let us know he needed to go outside (he's insulin dependent diabetic and blind as a bat) as of a year ago Mom has become legally blind in one eye, can barely see out of the other, mostly deaf (and will not wear her hearing aid) incontinent, wheel chair bound, was just diagnosed with Parkenson's, and suffers from mild dementia (last night at midnight she was waiting for lunch)...gave her a whistle to call me and sleep with a baby monitor by my head...blew it at 3 because she wanted to know if we had a bed pan...asked if she needed to go to the bathroom...said "no, just wondered if we had one"...the only thing she does by herself is get her food from the plate to her mouth...wants to be up and dressed and at the breakfast table anywhere from 5 to 7...I'm TIRED!!! If I try to get her to back to sleep she gets upset and starts complaining about every thing from back pain to not being able to breath (after she pulled off her oxygen tube)...would not be so bad but she is falling asleep in her chair within an hour and a half on most days. Have to be up to carry her dog around the pool so he can do his business...getting caught in the sprinklers at 5 am in your night gown for a mutt that you can barely stand does not make for a good morning. I'd take his little butt to the pound in a heartbeat, but she loves him more than life itself...it would be the end of her for sure. She would push my husband (her only child) or me in front of a fast moving train to save her little "Red Dog". Grateful that we only had 1 room with carpet when we moved her in...(her room) just ripped it out and she now has waxed cement...I feel guilty because it seems easier now that Mom can't get around on her own (and make extra messes) The dog is easier now than at first will sometimes go a couple of weeks without an accident for him (it's taken 3 years) used to have to mop4-5 times a day because he would step in it and track it around on the tile...now only a couple of times a week. Used to like to set a nice table and experiment with gourmet meals...she wants the same things over and over and over again...I'm either to tired or to lazy to fix separate meals so am trying to figure out how to please us all...am going to start trying to set a nice table at least once a week and see what happens...Mom won't let me put adhesive on her top plate because she says they are to hard to get out, so she makes sucky sounds all through the meal...or starts coughing and never covers her mouth...kind of ruins the appetite. when you set in the strike zone...only to be topped off when she pulls out her dentures and starts licking food off of it...sometimes wonder if we will live long enough to ever get back to a normal life...feel guilty about that too...
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OMG, you just described all of our lives, give or take a few details.... I could relate to everything except not liking the dog.... but guess if Sophia and Gypsy made the house their special dump site, I'd feel the same....

No one can ever accuse you of not caring !!! Took on quite a job there and are still alive to get to the computer to find people who understand.... job well done there !!!! None of us know if they will go first or us.... its a crap shoot everyday.... surely there is a separate Caregiver Heaven... with a Jacuzzi, our own massage therapist, some one to do mani/Pedi's and chocolate that isn't fattening..... I CHOOSE to believe this... the only thing that keeps me going somedays, besides my friends on AC... welcome.... get on the crazy train... you are not alone.... sending you lots of hugs and air freshener for the 'doggie' smell...
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Photo - I am sorry that you were sick. I'd rather deal with a cold than that. Running to the john is a pain especially if you can't make it. Hope you feel better soon.
Margeaux - Thank you for your kind words. They are appreciated. Mom and I would not always get along but I know that she loved me and I loved her. I would not trade caring for her for anything. Again, that you so much. Take care of YOU!!!!
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All I gotta say is if you met the other cg, it would be understood. She's a very intimidating, dominating woman. And they feel bad cause she cries broke. Kids, rent bills, blah blah. Apparently I live for free lol! I feel she feels threatened. I know I mentioned before, I get along great with the family. She has literally had yelling matches with it almost coming to blows. I don't know why she's still around??? Yes, she is good with G, but it's not good for us to argue and fight with our charges family.... She pulls the I care card with husband too. So I'm screwed...
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Thank you all....I am feeling better today but not as quick as when I was younger damn it
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Well been sick the last two days with bronchial infection. Impossible to get any sleep with caring for my mom. I'm sure my lack of sleep lately hasn't helped. I have to keep telling my mom I don't feel good. She goes to adult daycare tomorrow I am staying home from work so i can at least get some sleep. She was worried about me last night she kept checking on me because i've had fever off an on the last couple days. this is a normal occurrence every year it just drains all my energy ....hope everyone stays healthy and hugs to everyone.
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Geez. Wishing all you great CG's an extra heapin' helping of healing and recovery. There are some nasty bugs out there this winter. I was down and feeling crappy for three weeks earlier this season.

It sure isn't easy to get better when you're taking care of someone else with no sleep. I understand how you feel. Been there, done that. Grab a nap when you can and drink lots of chicken broth with a generous sprinkling of pepper. Wish I could be there to help you out. It's the worst being sick when you're caring for someone.
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Red have you considered placement for her? She does not appreciate all you do for her-she makes your life a living hell-if she has money I would use it for hiring care for her at the very least and think about placement.
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Lav, I think of you everyday, you are in my prayers.... I know you are heading into another phase of your life.... like you tell us all the time.... take care of YOU!!! lot of love...
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Well everyone....I have spent all weekend in the hospital with Gram..she had a mini stroke at the breakfast table with my son and I on Sat. morning. Called 911 and followed with my son into the ER. Tonight will be the third night of virtually no sleep. There is talk about placing her in a facility from the hospital but she may be released to me. I'm scared and praying this is all working out for the best. She was completely uncooperative until they started her on Depakote last night. This am she seemed calm and better and was begging me to go home....I have a gut feeling this is going to be ugly and I have a heavy guilt-ridden heart today.
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Jenny-
I am thinking of you today. This is the time to let the sons take over. Caring for her has been hard on you, and she may be ready for a facility. Just because you have experience caring for Alz/Dementia does not mean you have to do it for family. You are young, you need to take care of yourself first! Let the POA's take over the situation, it is time and she is not your responsibility. And DO NOT
feel guilty about it.
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Jenny - my heart is hurting for you. I would listen to the hospital. Glad is right you have no reason to feel guilty. It is time for her sons to pick up the ball.
Take care of YOU!!!!!
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Help!!! I need advice. I care for my 91 year old MIL and have a friend who tries to use me as a life line who is caring for her 95 year old mother. She calls me because she knows I understand first hand what that means. My problem is that she seems to have hit the end of her rope and wants to place her mom, but comes to me and says if she does she will feel like she failed (I think in part because we don't want to put MIL in a home unless there is absolutely no other option) I have told her that only she knows when she can't handle enough and our situations are different. Her husband and son want her to get her mom out of the house and won't help her with anything and complain about what she's not able to do for them...My husband helps with what he can...trying to help Mom maintain her dignity so I do all the bathing and personal clean up work...I think she feels guilty because of me and should NOT. Her sister wants nothing to do with their mom's care. My friend now says she does not either not even to be called for Dr. visits. I have tried to encourage her and tell her that if she places her mom in a NH it will give her time to rest and recharge so that maybe she can still be there to visit and help in small ways, and to remember that what her mom does now is nothing personal against her it's part of the dementia...I just don't want to see her snap and she seems close...please advise if I misspoke.
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Well today has been okay. I have my mom in a nursing home, and my father who barely walks on his own two legs at home with my husband and I. I feel guilty that mom is in nursing home, and dad is here without her. I have cared for my two parents, one after the other, for the past 8 years. I am battling depression and have been suicidal in the recent past, on more than one occasion. I have to keep my mind busy, or I spiral into my guilt and worry. I can't control what is happening to my mom and dad, as much as I hate it. I feel like they expect me to, especially my mom. She asks every visit, am I going home today? It's been four months, and I have told her we can't handle what is wrong at home, especially with dad the way he is, barely walking due to 2 stokes. Mom has had about 10 TIA's and 3 bigger strokes. One day at a time.,,...................
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Hi Red. Your friend definately needs to place her mom in a NH or some other facility. She is burned out. I know how she feels, as well as the guilt she carries. Some people are better capable of caring for a loved one than others. Depending on how much care a parent needs has to be taken into consideration too. You have not mis-spoke. Each person is different in what they can or cannot handle, and there is no shame in that.
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Reddog, get your friend to sign up here! She needs more support than she can get from one person. You do sound like you have an easier situation than she does. Not easy, of course, just not so bad.

You are a good caregiver and a good friend.
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Today, better than others but back with an update.
A little over a year ago we had a family meeting with my husband's family about his Alzheimers mother with his mother present--of course, they were no where to be found for nearly 9 straight months after that. A few days after that initial gathering the brothers met up and had a discussion wherein each was to do one of the three things needed for their mother being they knew the disease can progress pretty quickly. I am my MIL's caregiver. After 9 months, I said enough is enough and told hubbie to ask them to take her at least once a month. There are two of them so that should be easy enough. They could divide the time. Well, they did that pretty good but still managed to make me feel like crap for their having to do it.

So, four months go by with that, but now, I suspect that won't be happening anymore. Hubbie and I got tired of waiting for them to get on the stick about POA's, the final arrangement stuff etc. Each had their assignment. It has been over a year and they had done nothing. They'd pick her up for a day or two, come back and not one second was ever spent actually discussing their mom or saying if they had done a thing about what they agreed to do.

So, hubbie made most of the arrangements for funeral stuff and he went to an atty for the POA stuff (not that she has anything but concern with his brothers caused him to think an atty should be involved). Well, wouldn't ya know... the youngest brother, about 42 y/o, calls up my husband and says he wants to take all his mother's money out of her bank account (hubbie and his brother are both on their mother's acct) and use it to make up the difference he's missing on a 20% down for a house he and his wife want to buy. Hubbie said no. Brother had a temper tantrum saying his name is on the acct so he can. Hubbie still said no. And his brother called him an *sshole along with a number of other comments in email, text and on the phone. Geez! Just because his name is on the acct does not make the $$ his. His brother is much more well off than we are financially... I mean, he has the other 69K in cash already, but wants his mom's few thousand+ dollars. Then his brother said his mom wanted him to be POA of Finance. There was a big fight over that and in short hubbie said, if you want control of all the money, then you're taking mom too. I'm thinking this is why he called hubbie an *sshole.

Anyway, tomorrow we have the mtg with the atty for the POA stuff. Hubbie wants no one else involved. And hubbie and I are looking at Medicaid to provide some respite for us in the form of an adult daycare during the day. But we're still a little ways from getting that going. And we made an appt with my MIL's doctor so hubbie can get his recommendation or approval or whatever for this.

Is there concern if the brother contests the POA for finance at some point? And can we be forced to care for her on someone else's terms?
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Since someone asked....I'm depressed, tired, exhausted, emotionally drained, worried, scared...then don't care. Having a mammogram showed "something" on the film and I have to go back in April for manual re-check. This procedure was done, then my ob/gyn dr was killed in a freak snorkeling accident. He was so loved and appreciated.
Had gone to my reg dr. for lab work and it showed a slight sign of anemia. Wasn't cause enough for "alarm" and my dr said to take an iron supplement. But he doesn't know about the mammogram issue....yet.
The mammogram "thing" they saw was rated at a "1" which is something they want to keep their eye on, examine to see if it's pliable or a hard nodule. I was basically told not to worry about it. Having fibromyalgia doesn't help the situation.
I take care of my husband every morning, eye drops, blood glucose, he has costo chondritis which is an inflammation of the rib cage, and the gel we're using is so strong it can cause a heart attack. Husb now feels weak, we have an apt with his cardiologist this weds. He is also missing his left arm at the ribcage from a work accident 25 yrs ago.
I've been having dark spots in my poohs when going to the bathroom. But I also eat berries of some type and think that's what I'm seeing. It's dark, not bright red.
Figured since the topic of Shiite was already on the board, it would be ok to toss up here.
So you can see why "I don't care" is also listed in the statement. We have one Grandson and only get to see him about every3 to 4 mos.
Thanks for letting me post, I'm sorry things are scattered in the details, but that's how my head is functioning.
Maure.
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