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Morning all, I've been a basket case off and on over the past day or so..haven't really stopped crying long enough to check in.. Stormy, I understand about the not wanting to say anything in front of dad, I had the same thing with my mom, we found out she had cancer, the doctor basically told her there was nothing they could do for her, and the first words out of my brothers mouths were "how long did they say she had?" Hello, she just got told she was dying, there wasn't a damned thing they could do for her, and you expected me to ask how long? I don't think so.. One of the ladies talked about them passing the ball to each other, that is what my mom's doctors kept doing, till finally one asked if I wanted all the tests done there at the hospital while she was in, I said yes, we still kept getting the run around for a while, but then finally they gave all the info..

While I am sure the Doctors understand our concerns, they just try to keep their distance, not wanting to be the bearer of bad news.. The doctor that confirmed for us she had cancer was kinda blunt and tacky, but I'll take blunt and tacky any day over sugar coated B.S.

Jam, glad to see you popped your head in and let us know that at least your still there.. Ladee, glad you are feeling better, Emjo, if your not writing a book now, you need to get started.. you can use all of our "assumed" names..lol..to add to the list of stories. Seeme, Vic, 54, all of you, wishing you best health and peace.
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Starri, what is going on?? I hate to hear you are crying all the time.. I hate to cry.. I usually have to be insane mad to cry now days, let us know what is happening.. just know that I have been missing hearing from you.... Are you not getting to go on your camping trip or have ya'll left already... keep in touch... hugs across the miles to you..
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Starri, I had to rereadd your post to see where I missed the part abut what made you a baskeet case......what is going on? Are you still not is the camper? Has something else happened? Let us know !!!
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Hey Ladee, guess that it is part of the grieving process, I'll be ok and joking and the next thing I know I am wanting to curl up in a ball crying.. I'm slowly getting things ready in the camper, getting them figured out. It's been to bloody hot to be outside doing much, as I am sure you know.. nothing worse than your shoes melting into the asphalt. We hit triple digits yesterday, and they are predicting the same for today.

This months budget went out on auto repairs.. finished paying off the 900.00 on hubbys truck, turned around and put 200.00 on my car, just a battery mind you..but this one is down at the bottom of the engine, hidden behind a tire. Give me a good ole car before computers became involved, I could work on that puppy myself.

I'm seriously thinking about going down and getting in the camper before it gets too hot, get some more stuff out of there, and do some rearranging, I am seriously wanting to be out of here end of this month.. if we keep getting delayed we might as well wait till spring time.

How are you doing?
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Morning Seeme, what has me crying? lol, heck if I know, guess that it is just part of the grieving process, when dad passed I cried some, not as much as I am now, but then again, I never really got a chance to know dad till the final years of his life. Mom, I have looked after for a good part of hers.. Guess that is what is making this harder.
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I'm sorry Starri, hope you have a better day, and stay cool... hugs..
Yuo can't get away and I can't get the BS moved so we are both stuck... sucks doesn't it...
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I think my dear ladee, it sucks much worse for you, what's up with the split? helpers or the split needing help? if it's the helpers, I have a large cast iron skillet that I will be happy to over night to you, or hell come down and hit them myself, would help both of us that way, let me get some aggression out. If it's the split needing help to run, have you contemplated a tow truck? get it hauled over there on a flat bed, backed into your spot and work on it there.. As long as the roof doesn't leak, the a/c works, and there are not bugs crawling, you could live in it while you are fixing it up.
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Hey Ladies, Starri what kind of cancer did your mom have? I know we don't want no sugar coating going on. Just give us a straight answer so we know where to go from here. Sis told me yesterday that when we were in the drs office that she was thinking to herself. Talking about the dr. You don't want to tell us.... So I think me and sis have decided to try to get someone that does not know us(me,sis or dad)to read the results because it seems like all the drs that have dealt with us do not want to deliver dad news to us. Maybe a dr in Moore county. That's where he is having the pet done tomorrow. Well I guess I better go I got to start doing stuff to him and check on his leg. Love and hugs to all!!! Stormy
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((((((starri))))) I knew you were headed for some good crying - you need it and it is all part of the grieving.and a necessary part. You have carried such a heavy load for some time and still do with your brother and whatever else you have to do. Hope you are starting to feel a bit better. I had that gut wrenching crying for quite a while after Gordie died - was glad when it was over. Can't say I have had it for a while. You are a gutsy lady and will come through this and out the other side.

everyone - prayng for some refreshment in your days
stormy you sound like you are tackling this well

Had a good chat with a friend of 45 years last night. Was with them when her hubby died from cancer. Her father, mother, and oldest son all died in the next 4 years. She had a bit of grief overload and we understand one another. I told her that if I never saw mother or my sister again it would be OK with me. After the initial "Oh dear!", she understood. She has seen my family dynamics.

Was tired the past few days - slept 2 hours heavy in midday yesterday. Feeling a bit more energetic today. Did the exercycle for a little while last night but the muscle I pulled hiking is still sore so have to be gentle on me. . Boiling up some soup bones - need to boil them for three days to get all the "goodness" out of them. The broth is supposed to be good for the gut - need to get this candida over and done with - tired of it. At nearly 74, I still have goals to be fitter and stronger. I want to ride that black horse! Right now I would need a hoist to get up on her! lol I want that feeling of freedom - being in the zone, with the flow - got a bit of that chasing horses and swimming while we were away - it brings life to your bones. Don't forget to do a bit of that for yourselves - find it somewhere - even for a few moments - you need it.

I will tell you of my near death experiences and also of some of the experiences I had with my Gordie when he was in a coma. Need to be in the space - brings back feelings. I wrote hm a little poem after he died "No more sorrow, no more pain , Safe in heaven till I see you again" and I know he is.

More (((((((((hugs)))))) and love ♥♥♥
Joan
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Hey Stormy, she had what the doctors referred to as small cell cancer (small as vs, what? large?, never did understand that one) basically boiled down to lung cancer that had gone into the liver, she lived maybe 8 weeks after being diagnosed. I'm still haunted by seeing that last breath leaving her lungs... I don't believe that sight will ever leave me.

I know that you never get over the hurt of losing a loved one, but how long before you can function again? I need to move on and get on with my life, and I can't frigging function..

Joan, when I hit 74, if I make it until then, you have to give me your secret of youth, I am wore out just listening to what you have been up too, never mind trying to do it...lol..
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(((((((starri)))))) - grieving takes time and energy - it is very physical as well as emotional - and u need to give urself time to feel ur feelings - even then they can sneak up on u and catch u unawares - what I and others have found is that grief waits - u can shove it down for a while or get really busy to push it aside but it is there waiting for u when u have a quiet moment. Please give urself time - and I don't mean days - to process ur grief. Having your mum go so fast after diagnosis is harder in some ways as u don't have time to prepare urself - not that anyone can ever really be prepared to lose a loved one

look after u - drink enough water, eat properly and get the sleep you need - pamper urself a bit - hot scented bath and candles, music sort of thing - and incidentally, that goes for all of u - pamper yourself as u can fit it in - even small things will make a difference - i saw that jam gave herself pedicures - get a hair do, and so on - it will help u feel better

starri take as long as u need - functioning will return - u r getting on with ur life - the grieving part right now is ur your life - not that we would choose it nor is it much fun but it is part of life and for a while after a loss we have to organize our lives around the grieving - the time will come when u can organize ur grieving around your life - it took about 2 years after Gordie died for this transition for me - it should be much shorter for u as parent loss is "natural" - though that doesn't mean it is easy or not painful and difficult to work through - u will feel when u r ready to do more

secret of youth - well good genes for one which apparently counts for about 1/3 of it - on top of that good lifestyle - the basics - eat healthy, don't smoke, exercise - the latest wisdom about eating says that means the less processed food the better and I believe it - for me and many others - especially if u are diabetic or overweight it means restricting carbs - get rid if the white stuff - sugar, flour, baked goods, and substitute sweet potatoes for white, lots of veggies raw or steamed, as much fish as you can manage, good protein, nuts, seeds and fruit, - for exercise the best i ever read was do more than u r doing - I have never believed in the 45 mins in one session or the bouncing, high intensity stuff -- they have found out that 10 mins at a time several times a day is as benefical so just keep moving - walking is the best, but doing your grocery shopping etc all counts. Those of you who are looking after others at home are active! The final thing is looking after ur mind and emotions and spirit - need to keep your mind active , be social - here and in real life, and feel your feelings - stuffed feelings do a number on us - develop your spiritual life and be thankful for what you do have (gratitude and forgiveness are good for us) and finally deal with stress which prob involves all of the above -

start now - don't wait til u r older - take baby steps = and do right by yourself -as a group caregivers are special however they (we) tend to put themselves behind others - use your compassion and skills for urself too.

well better get off my soap box - can tell I am missing my students - used to give them the same and they would be uncomfortable walking past me in the cafeteria with a plate of fries and gravy lol - loved seeing their faces when I told them my age - but it showed them that what I was telling them worked

love 2 you all ♥♥♥ and rememebr it is never too late
Joan
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Good Morning Posse!

Another sunny, not quite so hot day, a balmy 95 degrees!

starri.....no you never get over the hurt of losing a loved one, but you will learn to put that away in a corner of your heart and bring out the good memories of your life and momma. Each person is different in how they deal with loss and how quickly they bounce back. My mother passed away last Dec 29 and there are still days when I just sit and think about her. I knew from that very day that nothing was going to bring her back and she would probably thump me on the head to find out I was sitting around grieving myself sick over her....:) She was like that. You are the only one who knows when you will be ready to get on with your life. Just beware of letting yourself get too far into that black hole of grief, that you will find hard to crawl out of. What would momma want you to be doing right now? I bet if she could, she would tell you to get that camper stocked, and get the heck out of there! I know you have a lot on your plate right now.....when is it time to start thinking about starri? And yes, sometimes you have to be a wee bit selfish.

I'm thinking of all of you today and hoping you all have a peaceful day.

Love and Hugz,
Jam
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Starri and Stormy, I am in the middle of the 2 of you....I know all the diagnoses and am trying to prepare myself for the day when I can no longer take care of mom or she dies.......I like to think that when mom dies, I will see a smile on her face because she is warm and no longer in pain. Don't have any idea what I will do after it is over. PTSD? My sister still has it over my dad. She just knows she can't do it again. Will I go out and get 2 dogs? yes, for the company. Mom and I don't talk much. Right now she isn't making much sense when she does talk, and most of the time she sleeps. If she is in a talkative mood, I hear all the same old stories, and she is so negative. I wish I could help you both through this time, but I can only give you hugs and wish you peace.....know that I think of you both daily.

Emjo......we are your family now.......huummm, I hope that is a good thing.

Ladee, hoping the chicken is gone and Marie is happy and Sonny knows you today. And that you can stay cool.

Vic, YR, and anyone else I have forgotten because of my brain fart, please cyber-slap me when you check in.

Jam, stay cool today with all this heat. Tell the girls to change their hair styles. Remember, familiarity breeds contempt.

Gotta get something done. Hubby is on day shift and I will be expected to make some kind of supper. He is not feeling well. Later..............
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mindy is nice and moonbeam -romantic - but what would we call her - moonie or beamie, seeme???
PTSD is no fun - but u can live with it and get better -
family here - yup a good thing - I have many cybersisters - mmm maybe the name for another book -
hope hubby feels better
U 2
love and hugs
J
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Starri I understand the image sometimes does stick with you when my dad took a turn for the worse he was a very energetic guy worked right up till the end would have been 79 that year. He went downhill fast but my dad god rest his soul did not take care of himself very well he had trouble with his teeth and refused point blank to ever go see a doctor. We lost him in 04 mom kind of went backwards about that time but rallied till she fell down the stairs 14 of them in 05 after that its been off and on that I had to help her but she lived with my sister for like a year till she moved in with my big sister and I. Big sister had enough after awhile mom can be a tad verbally abusive the one time she told her she wished she was dead (come to find out it was bi polar issues) cause she would be nice one minute mean as heck the next. so sis moved out and it was just me and mom. But the image yeah it does haunt you ... as I was the one that found my daddy. I slept in the same room as he did he was a heavy smoker for a lot of years ever since he was in the navy in ww2. One minute he was coughing and sleeping telling me to go to sleep he was fine I dosed off woke up to check on him and he was gone. Sometimes it really hurts ... as yes I was a daddy's girl. I went and did everything with him. Camping I was a boyscout (cept I wasn't a boy lol) did the jamboree the only girl there ... black berry picking, Fishing .... I am the youngest so ... dad was in his 50s when he was doing all this with me but I didn't care. All i kept thinking when I saw him was petrified wood .. he was so white and so stiff... but I try to hold onto the good memories I had of him and the family its what my family talks about and with mom cause she can come up with some memories still of things she used to do. She loves to tell how she was proposed to. My dad didn't ask he just sent a telegram that said to be ready to married on the 18th ... lol no lets get married or will you marry me. Just get ready to be married on the 18th ...

Mom is doing good, have a doctors appointment on the 8th for her. Her sugars have been running regular ... and Doc says she's been doing good with the edema as they haven't been swelling thats cause i have cut pretyt much any sodium out of her diet as instead of giving her canned soup and preprocessed sauce I make my own. I know it takes time but I rather cook it myself that way I know what's in it ya know. Still trying to get ready for this weekend I have to dismantle my heat press to transport it then put it back together there .. oh joy lol NOT!! Anyway .... thats it for me today ....
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Thank you ladies for all your support, it's going to take time, I know, just hurts like hell right now...tried to go grocery shopping, ended up circling one aisle and had to head back out the door, sat in the car and cried for a while, hubby bless his heart, doing his best to lean over the console and hold me while I did.. I do my best to keep from sliding down the side of the black hole from hell, as I know that is too slippery a slope for me..

Are we still looking for a name for the horse? Jo, I believe you said it, cybersister.. it is a girl isn't it? lol..if it is a stallion we could give him emotional problems if we named him sister..

Seeme? Mom was like that in her past year or so before she passed, nothing was ever good enough, negative everything..I can't begin to count the number of times I was told about her being a phone operator, lol, I just listened and commented accordingly. I have a picture of her in her hospital bed that we set up for her in the livingroom right before she passed, it's the happiest look I'd seen on her face in years, I was holding the star we had bought her above her head.. When it comes to dinner cheat,if at all possible, Bertello's (?) I think, makes a all in one bag meal..lol.. perfect for two, throw in a salad and you have servings for three and even better? you can nuke it..

Was fixing to head to the camper, till I took a look at the thermometer on the computer.. 102 degree's, how do you ladies do the heat ??? it's actually not all that bad out there today, heat I can pretty much do as long as I stay out of the sun, it's the humidity that kills me, sucks the life energy right out of you.

Have enough pain meds in me that I ought to be able to move some..guess i can plug in the camper and turn on the a/c to get it cooled down and see what I can come up with.. brought some more towels and stuff yesterday and put in there, still trying to unload the thing so I can get at the storage spaces and see what I have, these past couple of trips have been ok, we have new things to test and see if we need something else, so food stuff's and other misc have been basically thrown in there. I know that I don't have enough space for more than two weeks, so have to plan accordingly.

What's this about a chicken? is Ladee making chicken and dumplings? I missed something some where. I don't know how good they are for eating, but I have a couple of guinea's running around I can add to the pot.. Their my brothers actually, but I was trying to be nice one day and not run the things over and backed into a tree, busted out a tail light, 180.00 later, those birds became fair game, stupid enough not to get out of the way? road kill...lol.. Seeme? you could take Ladee's chicken and make chicken noodle soup out of it for hubby..

Maybe I took a little too much pain meds, lol, kinda babbling.. Big hugs..
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Ok ladies, this is not about caregiving But I have finally lost my patience and my temper, have a wrecker on the way to pick up the BS, have called the lady I will rent the space from, and she will meet him there and it is a fucking done deal, excuse my french.... I am so angry right now and both my son and nephew know it, so they will at least be quite while around me the next few days...... This is what I should have done to begin with, but nooooooo, I let them talk me into them doing it, gonna save me some money, YEAH RIGHT... so will update ya'll later. So, now I have a headache, am going to fix a cup of coffee and act like everything is just fine, going to be just fine, has always been just fine....
Will let ya'll know who I had to kill to get it all done, but I AM WOMAN, HEAR ME ROAR.... love and hugs to everyone...
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Shawna, that is tough finding your father, I was the one that found mine, has your mother been treated for her bipolar? it goes un-diagnosed for a long time, till something happens that brings it to the fore-front. I was the same way, fine one moment and ready to kill the next, hubby and I met online and he was warned right off the bat that I could be a bitch, lol, there were days I didn't want to be around me, never mind expecting anyone else to want to be..

ladee, I am sorry to hear that you had to explode to get things done.. your "french" doesn't bother me personally, I tend to have a mouth on me that could make a sailor blush.. Believe it or not, this ought to take a ton of stress off you.. it will be where you can make your home, make your area a area that you would enjoy coming home too, pots with flowers in it, maybe some fake grass (that carpet they sell, astro turf?) a couple of lawn chairs.. maybe a little table where you can set your coffee cup..

If you need a place to hide the body, I have the perfect place, right behind Mom's old place, kinda swampy, throw a bag of lime over it to hide the smell and let the animals move the bones for you..lol.. Big Hugs my friends
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Yes she's being treated for it... she is on the generic form of paxil its been a god send. It used to be she would snap at the grand kids and the great grandkids .. now she has very few out bursts is happy most of the time and its even suprising helping with her dementia as she's not depressed works with me on things yes she will get grouchy somedays but its never for very long. She gets to spend time with her grandkids and great grandkids without being annoyed or yelling at them so yep... its a good drug .. mom calls it her happy pill lol
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I'm glad to hear that the paxil is working for her, I hope it keeps up, I know for me my lamictal is a God send.. I still from time to time sink into depression, but it's easier to crawl out of now.. Her getting grouchy at times, is a normal thing, we all do..lol, people when they find out we're bipolar tend to panic if we get depressed or grouchy, wonder if we've taken our meds, etc.. we're human, we have those moods at times like everyone else does. My happy pill was my xanax, till I got a little toooo happy with them, now I won't have them in the house. I call my lamictal my "keep from killing people" pill. I have the welbutrion for helping with the depression. I've thought about seeing my doctor about upping the dosage of the anti depressant but this depression is normal considering the circumstances. There is no amount of anti depressant on the earth that will take this away.

So I'll just hang on, and if it gets too bad, will get my butt into see her. Well, computer still says 102, but the sun is getting lower in the sky, so I am going to see if I can get out there and get something done... Ladee? check in and let us know if we need to pass the hat for bail money.. we already know you can plead insanity.
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Yeah its a lot cooler here we got rain and stuff. I still have to go get my pop up canopy and table tomorrow or friday. My brother in law is digging out a cord for me to use and I still have yet to dismantel my heat press I am so NOT looking foward to that. I have to pack the rest of my stuff up so its ready friday I think I'll do that all friday that way if I want i can make a shirt for saturday ... LOL I am a die hard Bon Jovi fan so maybe Ill make a shirt that says Jovi girl born and bred with Jon's face plastered on it lol ha ha
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can't blame you for not wanting to break down the equipment, too bad you can't take advanced orders and just fill them there at the house.. no need to drag the equipment along..lol.. I've been out to the camper, not much in the way of storage space, trying to find any "wasted" space that might be there.. Will have to check out your website.. Enjoy your time off even if it is working Shawna.
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There won't be any time off as mom is going with me ....
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well, enjoy your time anyway..lol, hope that Mom enjoys herself as well, mine use to love to sit and watch people, then inform me on what she saw, hair fashions, clothes, tattoo's etc.. piercings use to really get her going..
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Mom likes to look at guys lol One of her favorite shows to watch is Criminal Minds ... and not really for the plot lines lol she just likes to watch Derek Morgan lol
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Starri, your sense of humor is beginning to show again! Love it. We will pull you out of the hole if you go there. I really didn't have time to grieve in all the process of getting mom here. Two sisters and one brother were there and dad's only living sib. I was the one who gave the nurse the OK to pull the plug. I know he had cardiac infarction and the numbers on his stats showed he had ARDS (Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome) and he would not recover after years of smoking, kidneys were failing........but I still felt like I killed him when Ihung up the phone. All the sibs there agreed with me, but I had to make the decision from NC. And I had just spoken to him on the phone the day before. I may do the grieving for both at the same time.

Right now I break out in blisters every time I hear mom call my name. Yesterday wasn't enough time away. I think she is up to 40 min in between going to the bathroom. I tried to take a nap while she was laying down. What a joke. My name sounded like fingernails on a blackboard about then. I know I am whining, but the smell gets to me and everytime she calls me, I automatically smell it.

I take lexapro for my anger.....usually because someone is being an ass. It started when I did a job I hated at work. I tried Paxil first and after 4 days of the 10 mg dose (the lowest?) I was afraid I was going to forget to breathe........but I was relaxed !!!! Got exhausted just taking a shower.

Well, hubby has a sinus infection and was running a low-grade fever. He's alerady decided not to go to work tomorrow. It is harvest time and he has an infection instead of asthma, so far. Never fails, but it usually happens in Sept. When they start spraying the defoliant on cotton and even picking tobacco and cultivating it can cause him to go into some funk. Now mom is scared from the news. Geez, TS Emily is driving her nuts. Course they have to make a big deal of it, good or bad.

Ladee, good to hear you took charge and are getting it done. Damn men, got to fix everything before it moves and too hot to do that......BS, takes a woman to get it done. We got a swamp about a mile away and Jam has a pond..........

Shawna, good luck at the fest.......I did that a couple of times with my painting, but it IS a lot of work. Stupid me started out painting old thick bricks as stocking holders for Christmas........why something as heavy as a brick? DUH!!! Then I did lighthouses on blue satin ornaments.....much better !!! And NC loves their lighthouses !!!

Gotta get supper going. 6 PM and 101 degrees.......but Kathy comes tonight........ later
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I can't blame her for liking to watch Derek, I'm a married woman and he looks good to me..lol...

Seeme, I can understand the cringing every time you hear your name, after a while you want to change it.. Bummer about hubby, is there anything the doctors might be able to give him to help with this? or is moving the final option? AZ and NV is where a lot of people have to move for the asthma.

Went out to the camper, don't have as much space as I was hoping for, but I can clear out hubbys tools to his "new" toolbox he had to have, so that will open up some space, some rearranging and getting two weeks worth of stuff in there isn't going to be a problem.. now to just find some of the stuff I bought for the camper and get it in there, like the first aid kit..lol..

Maybe get a rotating target holder for the cat and some darts.. she's about to drive me nuts.. I am not sure about traveling with a cat, two dogs and a husband..

I'm glad that you are all there, it's helping to be able to talk, even if it is through the computer.. I tend to hide when I get like this, not a good thing I know. Well, time to consider what to make for dinner, besides calling out for pizza, even I, the woman who loves pizza the most can get sick of it after a while.

Ladee? where are you?
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ok, I am back home, the BS is moved, being set up and without having to hear any more yammering... I haven't lost my temper like that in a long time, I still have a headache... So, can tell BG and sil it is moved and maybe I can be out of here by the first of next week.. I will be going after work everyday doing some major cleaning, and getting it ready to move some of my stuff in.....
And guess what, this is the blessing.... the lady saved a spot for me under a tree!!!!!! How cool and thoughtful is that........I almost cried when she showed me where I would be parked.... so paid her, paid for the wrecker, gave my son money to go get hoses and other stuff, now I'm broke, but finally happy... It's a Banana Split ya'll, finally!!!!
Starri, laughed out loud at my insanity plea, and if one more man had said one more stupid complicated thing to me, I was going to go postal.... told the wrecker driver he was my new best friend..... he did the job in less than an hour, and it had to be moved from another town..... anyway.. need to get cooled off, try to get rid of this headache, and do some gratitude.. I have my own tree ya'll, do you know what that means in texas heat..... YEHA.... more later after a shower, some food, and a little relaxing.... love ya'll hugs..
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No starri, I think the reference was to me being sick the past few day, from making chicken and rice... I didn't eat any chicken, I don't eat meat, but the rice was rich and must have thrown my tummy upside down,,, or at least I THINK this is the chicken reference,, may not be, maybe I missed something too,,,,
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Yeah mom loves to say just cause there is snow on the roof don't mean there ain't no fire in the furnace...she is so sweet... Ah finally went and got my canopy they had a discount on the walmart site so I got the better one yeah its about 30 dollars more but when you think about it its got to last through fairs and moving and I rather pay the little extra and have a good quality one then buy the cheaper and have to buy another one when it breaks.... so now all I got to do is pack up my stuff and get ready.... dismantle the heat press pack all the products print up the fliers maybe I'll take it to my friend at Post net and have her do it .. .have the one picture printed up .... and frame it to sell ... oy so much to do little time to do it!
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