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Good morning. I continue to struggle with severe depression while being only caregiver for my dad. I put a huge smile on my face around him daily. At night when everyone is asleep...or mornings before he gets up...I cry..a lot. Glad I have this time. Lost mom last year after caregiving for her for 4 years. I feel all the things ..guilt, saddness, emptiness..ect, that caregivers feel..plus the thing I am trying to deal with the most is...I brought mom a milk shake when she was in the hospital recovering from pneumonia. I asked the nurses..they said fine...My dad and brother came to visit her, and I left for a few hours. While I was gone, she took some milkshake and choked and inhaled it into her lungs..she was too weak to cough..they could not save her...she tried and tried to breath..then had a stroke..she laid..peacefully for two days, then passed. I came back right away after she choked..but was too late...The guilt I feel daily hurts to my core. I stayed the entire time she was dying. My brother did too. Dad could not handle it...this pain is unbearable. I am on two antidepressant s....so, that's my day.
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ilttks111- Please don't be so hard on yourself!... You're a very loving daughter who went way beyond what most would do. When my father was very sick (a long time ago) I also brought my father a shake from BK, because I knew he wasn't eating and loosing weight (I was only 18!)... At that time, I didn't know if it would be good or bad for him... didn't give it a thought!... I'm only glad he doesn't have to suffer any more and I do feel his presence with me all the time... Dear sweet daughter, please take care of yourself and gentle your mind... I also highly recommend seeing a counselor (church or psychologist) to get over your guilt if need be... You're too young to carry this kind of burden throughout your life and you don't deserve to!... God will help you through it all... Love, Lynn
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ilttks111, please know this could have happened had one of the nurses given your mom a sip of water..... I understand how you feel tho.... and my heart hurts for you for thinking you are responsible for your moms passing..... I pray you get some kind of counseling.... this will be hard to work thru to the other side.... we can tell you all day it wasn't your fault, but one day you will come to understand that it was simply moms time..... sending you lots of hugs and understanding...... let us know how you are doing.... we hope you come back and stay in touch.... everyone of us understand and are here for you...
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*jlttks'.... sorry.
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Wanting. Instead of keeping mom home to spend down her savings why not let her spend it herself on nursing home care, that is if you want her to.

Laura if all else fails put on a short skirt and stand on a corner instead of putting poor hubby out there with a sign around his neck.

If someone told me I was going to daycare my reply would be "over your dead body" now if they said it was a quilting group, or art circle, or maybe learn pottery or perhaps to knit socks for the soldiers in Afghanistan I might be ready well before the bus came. Of course I would know I could show those old ladies a thing or two and probably was better than the instructor - but that's another story.

It's the same thing with "Diapers" That seems such a demeaning word and something to be ashamed of. that actually wouldn't personally bother me but it does others so if the trade names don't cut it how about "protective panties for those of you not familiar they are quite comfortable and the pull ups do come in pink these days.

So Ladee M you are going rock hunting just be careful not to steal anybody's rocks or you will get that training faster than you think!!!!!! Only one more night. that was what I used to tell myself on the last night of my 21 on call. 7 whole nights to sleep.
Don't even think of caregiving for those three glorious days. better fix the scar on the gnomes face too he might cast a spell, he's probably pretty mad already.

Read the article on end of life care for the patient with BPN this morning. that contains so much useful information and I learned a lot. When i was working we had frequent in service training some of which were mandatory such as the yearly infection control but I don't remember anything anywhere near as helpful as this.
I also downloaded the out of the fog book to my Amazon kindle but have not started reading that yet. I am constantly amazed at the new things I learn from the caregivers on this site. You are never too old to learn something new. at least it keeps me out of daycare
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jlttks111 - I am so very sorry for your loss and what you experienced those last few days of your mom's life. Grief goes deep. So very, very deep for those of us whole love so much. It's coming up on 7 months since my mom died in my arms, in our home, in the hospital bed in our living room that I sleep in every night now with our dog. Today is my birthday - April 30. April 22 is my mom's birthday. Our first birthdays without each other. For me, it gets harder every day. I can't go anywhere without crying. I keep the blinds drawn and the curtains closed since she died. I don't want to look outside. The world is going on and I just want to shout STOP. STOP FOR A MOMENT. MY MOM DIED! EVERYBODY STOP! There are so many wonderful caregivers here on this site who understand - we are so different from everyone else. God chose us.
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jlttks. I don't know of anything else that Ladee M did not say to comfort you.
Sometimes God works in mysterious ways and this was his way of calling Mom home. There is no guilt about any of your actions either getting Mom the drink or not being there when she took that sip. You would not have been able to save her. The drs and nurses did what they were trained to do but God had other plans. You and your brother were able to share those two last peaceful days before she passed with no suffering. It was very hard to watch but you gave each other strength. you will cry that is a way of washing away the pain but have you thought that maybe Dad is also putting on a brave face every day for your benefit. Can you put your arms around him and let him know how much you miss Mom and maybe you can both grieve together instead of separately. stop dwelling on the way mom died and begin to remember as she was and all the things she used to do. Maybe starting to put together a memory book would help. Certainly some grief counciling would help. Most hospices have a grief councilor and you can use their services even though Mom was not a hospice patient. They also have groups where you can share your experiences or just sit and listen to others. Mom is in Heaven if she is looking down she would hate to see you suffering for something you did not do.
Blessings
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Jttks - I am so sorry that you are still going through so much guilt. Should, coulda, woulda never helps. How were you to know about the shake. My mom died three months ago. I left my mom in hospital; ward to get her meds straight and seeing that she was looking so weak I asked the nurse is she was okay. they said that she was. I stayed as long as I could and went home. I got a call that she was in CCU. You and I were with our mom in there last hours. A lot of people do not get to be with their loved ones at that time. Sometimes I think about me leaving the hospital and I get really sad. At these times I tell here how sorry I am and it makes me feel better. Please take care of YOU!!!!
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I didnt mean to report a post. I cant sleep tonight.when I talked to mom on the phone. Shesaid sometimes shebdoesnt want to even try to do what shensuspose to do. Ibget so tired of her game so she can have her own. I feel like giving up sometimes. I am on bloodbpressure pills and seizure medication. Today she drove nuts. Anybody have any ideas what to do? Pami
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jlttks, I'm sorry about your mom. You must feel so awful about what happened. I agree with what everyone said above. You and even the health Professionals were not aware that your mom could no longer swallow liquid. My mom was like that. She would drink and start choking so badly, her face turned dark purple. It was very stressful and scary. It got to the point that I didn't want to give her anything through the mouth. As I read your comment, I felt so bad for you. And I imagined myself with my mom in that situation. The guilt will eat you up. At the moment, you don't give a darn. But when you think you have reached The End, and feel like you're drowning with no way out but .... if there's a teeny tiny bit of spark within you that I call the 'survivor' wants to survive, please, seek help.

Here on island, they have a respite services. You don't have to be dirt poor to qualify. All they look at is how critical is your care receiver and you the caregiver. Since I'm caring for a bedridden parent who is 'difficult', I qualify. Father's retirement and my income would definitely not make us qualify for 99% of these federal fundings for the poor. I call us the poor middle income family. But I am soooo glad that this local/federal program do Not look at income but based on the need. They provide for me about 5 or 6 Free visits to a therapist a year. And I learned a lot from this. {{HUGS}}
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I'm reading a mystery book #6. I didn't care at all for book 1-4. The past 2 books (5 and 6), I've been chuckling a lot. Yesterday, I went to Pizza Hut to order take outs - 3 personal pan pizzas. While waiting for it, I sat on the other side of the bench from an elderly Japanese lady. I kept chuckling as I was reading. I noticed on the side of my eyes, how she kept eyeing me as I kept giggling. When her take out was ready, I saw that her hands were full. So, still holding my book, I jumped up, rushed to the door and opened it for her. As she turned to the door, she stopped in surprise. I smiled. And she kept thanking me, and bowing, and thanking. sigh... I know that when I giggle while reading, people tend to give me this "look". I've had those 'looks' given to me since high school. I think people just never met anyone who Laughs when they read books. So, I think the elderly lady may have thought I was "cuckoo." When I rushed to open the door for her, she realized that I'm not cuckoo...?? Her look of surprise and repeated bowing and thanking just made my day. It's soooo nice when I open doors for people that Finally someone thanked me. (Most people just walk in without acknowledgment..as if I'm the doorman.)
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Reminds me of a woman in the salon the other day. She was waiting for her appointment, me for mom to finish up. This woman was reading something on her smart phone that absolutely kept her laughing for 15 minutes until she was called for her appointment. Did I think she was wacko, hmm, probably yes, but at the same time I thought I wish I could laugh like that. And seeing her laugh that way did brighten my day.
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Got MIL death certificate in the mail yesterday...she had been diagnosed with Parkinson's, cancer, COPD, blindness, she was almost deaf, and bedridden at the end...they listed the cause of death as advanced Alz...not sure what that had to do with vomiting blood 2 feet in the air...I guess it doesn't really matter it just surprised me to see that as the cause of death...will admit that the dementia in the last week had her calling for her mama over and over again...still waiting on the new carpet to get installed so we can move back in the house...decided to paint a Morracan design on a cabinet to keep me out of trouble...found a buyer for all of MIL Lena Liu humming birds...she had 3 pieces, a mobile, a wall hanging and a figurine...got 225.00 for them which is only a portion of what she paid, but the lady came to pick them up and I didn't
have to mess with shipping them. Now if I can just find a buyer for her Dewees Cochran doll, I will really be a happy camper...actually there is more stuff than that but that stupid doll cost 535.00 back in 83 and I can't believe there are that many people out there who would come close to that???? I really hope this is the last time I have to go through all of someone else's stuff and try to liquidate it...
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Well, You know what "laughter is best medicine you could/ can get" something like that!!!??? bookluvr l'm Japanese, too.... When we became caregivers seem to me we do help other anytime and anywhere we are....always aware of our surrounding to assist who need help...
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Red, there are collectors of dolls, hold out for a good price......
STP, good to see you here, hope you come back and visit....

I am brain dead....closed my eyes at work and woke up when the day lady came in the door.... so going to bed... get caught up with everyone after a good sleep.... love and hugs.
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STP, one thing I can say about the Japanese, they sure have some great stuff! Every time someone comes back from visiting Japan, they have these very pretty souvenirs. I am just sooo envious of them. A client bought some sweet packaged gift pudding and gifted it to me. I'm more into chocolates so I gave it to dad. He loved it! I keep forgetting to stop by the Japanese Market store and see if they have something similar. Another time, when a customer brought the bean something gift, again, my father loved it. Some of my treasured gifts is a kimono girl pencil holder, 3 kimono girls bookmarks, a tiny tea set, and this beautiful small fan. One day, if I can just find a friend whose Japanese and is familiar with the subway/railway, I would love to visit Japan. I've gone there only one time as a tour group just for the weekend. I actually went to the Disney Sea. Needless to say, everything was in Japanese. But the grounds were clean, no trash at all. Amazing...

STP, I saw a documentary in the International channel. It was a program about helping the older Japanese people. Instead of letting them just stay home and do nothing, they set up work programs for them. It was agricultural. They, themselves, harvested/reaped their plantings and made some income. They were so happy to be doing something useful and meaningful in their lives. You can see it when they were interviewed. All I kept thinking was.. if I squatted down like that, I won't be able to stand up. Someone is going to have to pull me up. Stamina....
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Red, your MIL had all that, and they only put Adv.Alzh? You got me curious, so I went to check my mom's death certificate. She passed away last year in March here at home most likely in her sleep because at that time, she was sleeping all day and night. Her DC says that she has Alzheimer disease. Cause of death is arteriosclerotic cerebrovascular & cardiovascular disease. Really? I just thought she died because her body started shutting down. Okay..time for bed. past midnight.
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My first night a free woman... went to my fav Mexican Resturant and treated myself to my fav shrimp dish.... got a call from my great-nephew.. was setting in my car talking to him and these two ladies and a young man came out of the restaurant...I am seeing the young man in distress, problems breathing.... I hung up on my phone call and went running over there... young man was having a panic attack.... got him slowed down and ok and had to go call my poor little nephew back..... just hung on him.... it's funny now, but at the time, Caregiver 101 kicked in...make sure they are breathing.... lol....

So guess if I really want to relax and not think about caregiving.. I will have to stay home.... !!!!!
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Red,
There have been and number of stories on the news in the past year or so that deaths from Alzheimer's are underreported. Docs are starting to use language that mentions the exact cause and qualifying it as "due to Alzheimer's disease". In order to receive priority for funding research it is very important that Alzheimer's be listed on the death certificate. That is the only method the medical community has to develop statistics from. Alzheimer's will cause bodily functions to shut down. The brain forgets to send the appropriate signals to keep functions operating. Just as many become bed bound because the disease has made them forget how to walk.

So, a lesson for all of us, when our loved one passes, make sure the doc lists Alzheimer's as a contributing factor if not the direct cause of death.
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Ladeem - It seems that you were in the right place at the right time. Maybe it is God's way of reminding you to slow down.Mexican food sounds great!! When a person is so busy all the time it is hard to stay still. I experienced that after my mom's death. I was looking around to see what to do. I felt like a person coming out of a coma. I am glad that you have all this time on your hands. Time to chill. Congrats on the raise. Take care of YOU!!!
Laura - Good to hear from you. Good luck on job search. You gave me a laugh about your hubby. Take Care of YOU!!
Book - I hope you will feel better. I started using a netti pot last year and have been using it every day since. We have had a high pollen alert for weeks. They say that people should take a bath and put on clean clothes after they come in from outside. That would be a lot of washing for me LOL!! Take care of YOU!!
Assande - I am glad that your Mom can go to senior day care. Please take care of YOU!!!
Jittls - I am sorry that you are still going through so much guilt. For you to think shoulda, woulda coulda doesn't help you. How were you to know that she could not swallow. You have enough on your plate with caring for your father. I lost my mom three months ago. Every now and then I go back to right before she died. What could I have done differently? When I think of these times I tell her that I am sorry I did anything to hurt her. It makes me feel better. (Did I already post this?) I have been going to a grieving group and it is helping me. I hope everything gets better for you. Take car of YOU!!!
Hi there - Lots going on right now. My realtor finally is having an open house here on Sunday. I have my fingers crossed, praying to St. Joseph and even went to church and lit a candle. I am desperately in need of money right now. I have been accepted into a program with the parish (county) for everybody else. They are going to help me get a job. I need your advise on something. You all know that I do not get along with my brother. Well, last time I talked to him he was very depressed. More than any time I remember. He told me that his world is falling apart. I mean he was really upset. I have not heard from him in a week. I have texted him twice and he has not contacted me back. I thought that when I text him about the open house he would surely call me. I am worried but I am so mad at him I really do not want to call him. I think I will call his wife and ask her what is going on. I may be dramatic but I really do think something bad has happened. I really have a lot to do to get ready for the showing so you all take care of YOU!!!
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Red once the patient is admited to hospice the primary De rarely sees the patient again for what may be many months. They frequently have no idea what to put on the death certificate. In the case of your mother I would have suggested "Multiple system failure secondary to terminal dementia" if the admiting diagnosis had been for example lung cancer it would have been secondary to that.
The final phase of care is theoretically directed by the patient's PCP but once the patient is homebound they can no longer visit the dr. Hospiceinforms the Dr of any changes either at the time or in a biweekly report but these are seldom read by the Dr. The PCP continues to prescribe for the patient but usually as requested by the hospice nurse. The hospice medical directer does supervise treatment and medications but does usually defer to the PCP if he is reachable or has available after hours medical cover. The bottom line is that the patient and family are very dependent on the experience and expertise of the hospice RN. Not that is a bad thing because the RN gets to know them well and having regular contact can report changes both to the nursing supervisdor MD and PCP. For thos who do not know how hospice works depending on the patient load teams are set up and care for a specific number of patients. A small hospice may only have 30 patients and one team. Bigger hospices may serve several hundred in their area so have multiple teams and may have teams serving specific areas. Large or small they are all required to follow the same regulations and have the same services available ie social workers. I am only familiar with Medicare approved so do not know how the "for profits' work. It is a very complex structure full of rules and regulations which are costantly changing and provide many headaches. In my experience too the nurses are at the bottom of the feeding chain.
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Red, I'm so sorry! But it's a blessing. There are some things that really are worse than death and Alz is right up at the top. Your MIL isn't suffering anymore and thank God for it. *hugs*

Just popping in to say hi everyone! I needed a little time away, some solitude. It's helping. I guess I just need time to pull my head out of my ass. I found out I'm rehirable at my old job, so I'll be applying soon. Wish me luck!

I hope all of you guys are doing well, and your charges are peaceful...at least for today. ;)

Have a good one, ya'll... Ciao for now!
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SA,
Hope it goes well, good luck!
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Thanks, Glad! I'm really looking forward to going back to work. :)


All hell broke loose here a couple days ago. Sean has hooked back up with his heroin addicted ex girlfriend. Man, I was so glad to hear that skank had moved to Texas and was out of his life, as I was thanking God she wasn't knocked up. Now, she's back and who's the first person she contacted? Riiiight. She doesn't give two shits about Sean, only about what he can do for her loser ass. We had a long talk months ago, hell, years ago, and he knows very well how I feel about her. I asked him not to bring her over here. I told him it would get ugly if he did.

So, I get up at 5 a.m the other day and went to make coffee. I heard Sean in his room, but I also heard a female voice as well. Having my suspicions, I immediately saw red. Sure enough, he had Alia over here. I went off. I completely lost it. I was screaming at the top of my lungs, 'Get that C**T out of here, NOW!' I was dropping F bombs left and right and I know she heard me and I wanted her to. When they came out here to leave, she was glaring at me and I stood up and got in her face and said, 'Problems, bitch'? She was trying to say something, but was so whacked on heroin that she couldn't get it out. I told her to get her nasty, skank ass out of my sight and to never come back. God, how I detest that nasty whore. She said, 'F you!' and I said, 'Who HASN'T F'd YOU?' Then she made some comment about how I didn't have this attitude when 'I was taking care of your mom'. I flipped the hell out when she said that. Get the hell out of here. When my mom said that bitch could move in here all she did was lay on her ass on MY couch, watch MY tv, use MY expensive stuff and perfume without permission, made messes she didn't clean, and otherwise did nothing productive, the worthless hag. And she expected me to do her damn laundry, too. I detested her on sight. She's 30 and looks older than I do. I feel sick that Sean has hooked back up with such pond scum. Even her parents don't want anything to do with her. She's going to suck him dry financially and then find a new supporter when Sean is broke. The whole thing makes my blood broil. I don't give a tinkers damn whose house this is. As long as I'm here, she won't be and that's the bottom line and I made that real clear. I scared the shit out of the bitch. I doubt she'll ever show her stupid face around here again and that's about the only smart move she'll ever make. She's on probation from the law, she's in trouble for stealing thousands from a previous employer to feed her addiction and God knows how many dicks she's sucked to get heroin. She makes my damn skin crawl. I have a fool and a moron for a son who can't see the writing on the wall. Well, she and her heroin addiction are HIS problem, I'll see him in hell before he makes it mine or his brother's. I told him flat out I'd leave if he wanted to start bringing her here, told him to tell the renters in the other house to get the hell out and I'd be gone and good riddance. But Sean knows, as I know, that he'd sink like a stone if he had to handle this place. God knows that nasty skank won't do shit. Whatever. As long as I don't have to lay eyes on her again, I don't care what he does with her. Stupid, stupid fool.
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SA, Sean is thinking with the wrong head, and unfortunately he is not the only man to do this. What a difficult situation. Hopefully, she will stay away. Have you taken care of the house titles with Sean yet? I would not waste any time. If Sean is mixed up in some illegal activity, it may be time for some tough love. Thinking of you!
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SA Good news on the job. Put your heart into it and you will do well. Totally agree with glad about Sean. Just hope he does not move up to heroin now he's got money. It is one of the easiest drugs to get these days and the most addictive.
No worries he does not want you out he still needs Mommy to take care of things. Stand your ground. if he is not helping with chores like mowing, no laundry. Throw the dirty stuff back on his bed and shut the door.
He's headed for the big house if he keeps this up.Glad to hear from you again been wondering. Blessings
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Yay, I was rooting for you as you stood up for your morals, boundaries, and for your son. I pray that God will take that sorry woman away from you and your son. What on earth does he see in her? Your son needs someone outside the family: a friend or a teacher or someone he looks up to: maybe a man, to give him a talk. Someone who would say just what you did, of course. How can you keep him away from that woman who for sure must be trying to get him to be an addict too, I would imagine. Any local organizations to intervene or help you?
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My sister jumped me this week about not doing anything with the money Mother has in her savings account. She has to spend it down before we can put her in a nursing home. My sister wouldn't offer any suggestions of her own, just made baseless accusations and wanting a 'Board of Trustees' for that little $4000 account. So I told her that I wanted to know how much the funeral would cost, she said from $8000 to $12000 and the stone would cost $4000...well That's a BIG spread...so I decided to go in and talk to a funeral director. I called her and asked if she would go with me, she said yes and she could go anytime. I made the appointment for today and she asked if our Aunt could go with us so we wouldn't fight. I said of course...called the Aunt and she agreed. Got a phone call about 9:30 last night, my sister said she was not going but that she'd come stay with mother while I went.

Got up this morning and no sister...she's not answering her cell or house phone. I left mother alone and went. I went ahead and signed a contract on a simple funeral...$7100. I paid $2500 down out of Mother's account (I have POA) and I will be making $120 a month payment until it's paid off. If she dies before it's paid off, insurance will cover the balance.

My sister told my aunt she wanted a vault...then when we told her that a vault would add a couple thousand to the cost she said she just wanted a casket that sealed. Well, mother wanted a wood casket but obviously a wood casket isn't sealable...so I called her from the funeral home...again she didn't answer so I called her husband, HE didn't answer either but she then called me back...STILL refused to participate, just kept saying mom told her to put her in a wood box and throw her in a ditch..soooo helpful.

at least now my Aunt knows what I am dealing with, Sis CAN walk away...she can choose not to deal. I don't HAVE that luxury. So I am stuck making these MAJOR decisions and all I have to look forward to is criticism and accusations of theft.
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standingalone, girl, you tell them! It is one of the most teeth gnashingly frustrating to see how easily some people can be dragged around by their hormones. I don't understand it...but I have a brother that is enthralled with this satanworshipping druggie that openly sleeps around...he is totally whipped.

good luck. You'll need it. (6 billion people and THAT'S what he hooks up with...smh)
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Book I can get lost in a book myself which was good when the husband was alive I would go off by myself and just read to get away from his abusive treatment. Sometimes I will burst out loud laughing and other will make comments but I don't care-I read at our drop in while others are playing cards-they can not understand how I can read with noise going on-it saved me as a kid to just remove myself from my dysfunctional family-it really is a gift to treasure.
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