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Sorry Glad, got wrapped up in telling the story... I am grateful and will let MrM know.....
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Book - I hope that you will feel better soon. Take care of YOU!!!!
LadeeM - I hope Cujo is sleeping better. I wish that family would appreciate you more. Take care of YOU!!!
Hi everyone - This might be the last time I post for a little while. Sunday I will be leaving Mom's house for the last time. Bro is coming to help me move the furniture I am keeping to storage. He is still trying to tell me what to do and when. After he and his helper leave I will wait until I can check into the place where I am staying for two weeks. After that I will have a safe place to live down the street from my mom's place. I am also getting a lawyer to look into getting money from my brother for services rendered taking care of my mom and cleaning the house after dust, dirt and mouse poop fell from the attic and cleaning out the shed. I have broken my back for months getting rid of the stuff in the house. Sunday is independence day for me!!!! I will be finally taking care of ME!!! I will be checking in when I can. Please take care you all.
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I don't think I can do this any more. My husband is banned from 3 convalescent, hospitals, I home health care, I extreme dementia care hospital, and now Hospice, and geriatric psych hospital will only keep him two week. How had dementia slipped through the cracks. We have too many assets to qualify for veteran's benefits. Our seniors with severe dementia are screwed. What the hell do I do???
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Geez photo. Your only option may be dropping him at an ER tell them you are not able to provide the care he needs. AND refuse to take him home! If he is in hospital now, talk to the social worker there and say you are not able to provide the necessary care. He needs hospitalization and maybe heavy sedation. Others have had to do the same.
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Lav wonderful! Check in with us when you are ready and able. We will all miss you. It has certainly been a long haul for you! Best Wishes to you and do as good a job caring for YOU as you have everything else!
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glad...that is a good solution...and oh how I wish I could do that. It would make my life so easier....unfortunately, I love him, for whatever reason, after 48 years of marriage and I can't do it....I do do wish I could
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Photo either you can continue to care for him or not. You need to take care of yourself! I understand how hard it would be to do that, but also understand what would be best for him! If it is too difficult to care for him, you are getting stressed and angry, what would be better for him? The same thing that would be best for you. And if he understood what was happening would he want you to continue to care for him?
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I so don't what to do...this is soooo heart renchinging and I cry and cry and cry and it does no good.
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Photo, I think you know what to do. The things you have had to deal with would be deal breakers for most of us. I know I couldn't deal with your situation husband that I love or not. He is not that man any more. I understand it must be terribly heart wrenching.
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Photo, you are not abandoning him.... you are getting him the help he needs.... love has nothing to do with this at this point.... I could tell you you are doing the loving thing by doing this, but it has come down to common sense.... and of course you are crying... any of us would be too... and be torn about what to do.... but this we do know.... you can no longer care for him..... at some point you have to save yourself...... we support you and will be here for you if you do this..... we'll support you if you don't ..... but you really need to HEAR what we are saying..... praying for the best outcome for you...
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One, I was age 24 when dad retired in order to take care of mom full time. Only now, as in last week, SIL asked me if dad was getting social security. I said no. He has his retirement income. She said that social security has nothing to do with his retirement fund. It's when you reach age 65. Okay. I know nothing about it then. I only see his retirement money as his only income. She and her hubby (oldest bro who lives next door) wants me to find out about it. So, I asked oldest sis - who has No secular or house chores - to please call social security and ask for their location. She looked at me, and then went back to her reading. She didn't do it.

Two, oldest bro and SIL kept asking me if dad had insurance under mom. I don't know. I know nothing. They kept trying to tell me to look for it. Hello??? Do you know how many super typhoons we had since i was age 24? How many floodings we had? All dad's treasures that he kept in his locked chest - got ruined on that last super typhoon. (I have you all know - that I spent the whole night on top of the exercise bike with my feet up so that it wouldn't be dangling in the water. Fortunately, we were able to crank up mom's hospital bed as high as possible and wedged her and the hospital bed in the hallway - with the bathroom door shaking so hard that dad had to tie a rope from the doorknob to another doorknob to prevent the bathroom from flying open and poor mom get soaking wet from the typhoon's wind.) sigh.. I showed them his stub that you give for tax purposes. In end, SIL sat with me and I logged into dad's retirement website. Lo and Behold, dad only has $25,000 life insurance. And mom only has $5,000 life insurance. Bro now wants me to contact the insurance, tell them that mom has passed away last year, send in mom's death certificate, etc...

FYI, when I pulled out my file folder with all of dad's paperwork, I pulled out the beneficiary for his insurance. I told SIL, I have this, waving the envelope. I then opened it, took the paper out, and gave it to her. She looked quickly, muttered 'your the beneficiary'. When bro asked what's that paper, SIL quickly answered that it's nothing. Not what they're looking for.

Hmmmm.. I do believe SIL doesn't trust my oldest bro, her husband. I do believe she doesn't want him to know that I'm dad's beneficiary if he dies. I was surprised that she did that. In the past, when dad was so mean to me, I would storm out of the house, crying so hard into my car. SIL would run out of their place, come to me, trying to calm me down before I speed out and kill myself. As I was crying, I would tell her what happened. She always ends up crying with me. I'm not talking the silent tears. I mean, crying just like I was doing. My brother abused her. I guess she knows what I was going through with dad. When all my sisters was against her when she married bro, I was the only one who was neutral. Too bad greed pops up once in a while. Maybe she learned that from being married to one. I don't know.
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Book, you deal with soooo much and your Dad knows it!
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Oh Book what a way to find out that nasty old man loves and appreciates you. T.
Take comfort in that.
Do you know Dad's SS# that is all you will probably need to start with.
Try going online and type in SS benifits and that should tell you what to do next. You may be able to do a lot of it online.Is he over 70 now? There may be quite a tidy sum waiting for him and he should get something between $1-2 K every month from here on in and that should help a lot so go for it.
Pam Steadman will probably have more specific advice.
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Photo dry your tears and start planning for th future. When the two weeks are up at the psych hospital simple refuse to take him home and they will have to place him. Now comes the bitter pill and it is one you have to swallow. You will have to PAY for his care until you have spent down your assets till you reach the level where he can qualify for VA benifits or Medicaid. Now don't start to panic you can do that latter when you find out the facts. Go and see an eldercare lawyer and find out what your options are and what assets you will be allowed to keep. i know it will include your home, personal effects and one car but he lawyer will explain the details to you. As your husband is a veteran he may be able to go to a vets home if there is one nearby.
Your other option is to take him home and employ full time help. if he is heavy and violent a male aide might be the solution plus you need to make sure you have sufficient medication to sedate him when he becomes unmanageable. this is why I am telling you you need to make the necessary plans now while he is hospitalized because you have your oen future to consider. I know this is a very hard time for you but sitting around wringing your hands is not going to solve anything for you or the husband you love. Do you have a friend or family member who can help you with this and accompany you to meetings. You are in such an anxiety state right now to be able to remember anything or make sensible decisions. It is going to be hard and you will end up feeling violated but do what is best under the rules you are given. Praying for you. Blessings.
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book, go to ssa.gov and you can apply for social security online. you will create a log in and password so you can check the status. Cry happy, now you know he saw your worth, he trusted you even long ago.
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Oh, Book, I assumed you are in the US. Are you?
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I finally have a good team of caregivers that helps me John most days. Right now I am laying in my bed doing nothing, on the internet, watching tv while one of them is watching John, making his lunch and I have one coming at 4 who gives him a shower, does, the dinner dishes, gives him his meds and puts him to bed. If you have good caretakers, it makes all the difference in the world. I love them and life if so much better now!!!
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P.S. We are so very fortunate to have purchased a long term care policy for him years and years ago, so after the 90 elimination period, we will get a lot of the caretaking paid for plus, we no longer have to pay the insurance premium as they pay that as well. I plan on keeping him home as long as I can keep things as they are now. Don't get me wrong; things can get pretty rough at times, but I am doing much better
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Book, you are a very good son; no one could ask for a better one
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Pam, it depends whose point of view you ask. Most say that I don't live in the U.S. but as international (when it suits them) or domestic (again when it suits them). I will try the website first and see what That site says - domestic or int'l. Thanks for the tip about trying online first! I already knew that going down in person to their office - won't work. They will insist dad comes down in person. He's bedridden and refuses to get off his bed. He has progressed in his senility (can't say dementia since he's not diagnosed with one by his doctors) where he has problem understanding telephone conversations. Even a simple call from me telling him that I'm not able to come home for lunch - he has problem understanding.
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Thanks, Photoart. =)
P.S... dad keeps telling me that I'm a bad daughter, doing bad service.
I didn't know that I was Hired to caregive him. If I was, I sure ain't getting paid for it!
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Book - Sounds like his own way your father is thanking you. I am so glad for you. I am also glad that you have your SIL on your side and has been there for you in the past. You have a gone through so much and you deserve much more. Take care of YOU!!!!
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Photo - Wow, you sound so much better. I know you are grateful to have some down time. No matter how much we love someone taking care of them can be a trying experience. Hang in there and take care of YOU!!!!!!
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Book, what a surprise for you... but we know, in regard to pay, that if that insurance policy was worth a million dollars, it still wouldn't be enough for all the years you have done this....but you have listened to that old man for years and years, and then you started listening to us..... so just because he still says it, doesn't mean you believe him anymore..... so take the money and run when you get it..... hugs to you...

Lav, glad to hear things are settling down for you finally, what made you decide to take bro to court???? More than anything, happy to hear that 'Doormat Lav' , left with the low tide....!!!! Poor Jazzy, probably doesn't know what is going on and just wants all the humans in her life to stop already....let us know when you get settled somewhere... and get internet connection or wi fi, we always want to know how you are doing...... it wouldn't be the same around here without you here.. lots of hugs to you...

Have enjoyed this time off... feeling my energy level coming back up some.... I really believe it's because I got to spend time with my granddaughter... had such a great time with her..... she has a great sense of humor, and laughter has always been my drug of choice..... lol.....

Hope everyone finds one thing to be grateful for today.....love and chocolate !!
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Lav, I am sooooo sorry about Jazzy... I did not read my wall before I posted..... I know you are going to miss your precious fur baby.... love you !!!!!
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Book I'm sure he is eligible for SSI.. Apply asap... I believe that all the islands don't have a local office.. They are serviced by Honolulu..
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Hi everyone. Hope you guys are doing well and staying strong. Forgive my selfishness, sometimes I just need to get it out somewhere. I can't read too much here right now. I just can't. There's a need in me to put as much distance as possible between me and alz. I'm sure you guys get it.

Alz isn't just a disease someone gets. It's War. It's an all out assault on every single person involved and you'd better have some strong mental armor to survive the journey.

13 years of alz. 13 years of dealing with what I wasn't prepared for. If someone would have described alz to me years ago the horror it truly is wouldn't have registered. Describing alz is one thing. Nothing that's written about alz in any book can even come close to that living hell on earth. Alz is a seek and destroy beast of a disease. The worst kind of monster there is. It doesn't just seek to destroy it's victim's without mercy, eating them alive from the inside out, devouring your loved one's very soul right before your eyes and there isn't a damn thing you're powerful enough to do to stop it. The beast won already, without even trying and you know it. It's a gut wrenching reality that can knock the strongest to their knees. Alz isn't just content to destroy. Alz likes to torture, not just it's next victim, but every single person that comes into it's vicinity.

And honestly, that's what alz looked and felt like to me. My mind envisioned this god awful beast, something almost alive, because alz has a presence. It has a vibe. It has a personality. It likes attention. It likes to make itself known and it likes to torture and maim from the inside out. If eyes are the windows of the soul, alz was torture for my mom because there was a lot of fear in her eyes when she got to the point where SHE realized, really realized, the horror of what was happening to her. The knowledge that she was losing time. Losing memory. The knowledge that she was losing herself. Losing us. And I knew the same.

At that moment, when you first see and MUST acknowledge that nothing will ever be the same again with the parent you knew, the person, the spirit, the human that you HAD is just GONE....and you know that all you're going to be left with is a BODY.... that's still breathing.....for me, that was one of the lowest moments of my life and when alz really picked up it's pace.

During those years, I saw my mom reduced a lot of times to the level of a wild animal, reduced to nothing more than a body that's being controlled by a machine that's broken and malfunctioning and on it's last legs. At those times, it was almost too much for me to handle. I'd look at my mom, I'd watch her endlessly fidgeting, ending looking for something she could never find, I'd see the fear in her eyes and it brought me to my knees like nothing else. There was nothing I could do except hug her. That's it. Alz is looking into someone's eyes as they die in fear and horror. And those around can do nothing but watch it all happen, are forced to watch.

I've seen things I wish I'd never seen. Never had to see, because alz didn't exist. I wish a lot of things, but only the damn truth is real. I dealt with things I wish I'd never had to deal with. In my mind, when I'd see what I wished I'd never see, when I dealt, again and again and again, I wanted to break, to scream, to howl at the freaking moon in absolute and total grief, frustration, anger, regret, sorrow, you name it, all assailing me at one time....but I couldn't. None of us can. None of us, these caretakers, are allowed to break. We can't afford to. We can't afford to give into depression no matter how depressed we may be. We may wish we could walk away because the weight of alz is so heavy it becomes physical...but we can't. Someone has to do this job, sometimes there's no choice. I don't know a lot of people that can afford $8000 an up NH's.

I still get nightmares about this whole journey. I'm embarrassed to admit what a toll this has taken on me, on so many freaking levels. I'm embarrassed to admit how absolutely and totally weak and tired I feel atm. I'm pissed that the whole thing has gotten to me like this. I damn myself for it, telling myself that I'm a wuss, a pathetic pussy that couldn't deal and now I'm cracking like an egg like a little pansy....

I've always been glad to be a strong person with a strong survivor instinct and strong will...God knows, and you guys do, that to deal with a narcissist, and my mom was one, you've got to have steel somewhere to retain your sanity around complete insanity. But alz knocked the wind right out of me. I want to deny it. I want to tell myself that I'm stronger than alz, that I'm not going to allow this thing to win and beat me, too...the fact remains that I'm worn the hell out. Completely wiped out. That's what I feel like right now. It's like I held my breath, suppressing all that haunts me now and after 13 years I'm finally free to think about it...but I don't want to think about it. But there it is, in my face, images of alz that I've had branded into my brain for years but have never really looked at, popping into my thoughts when I least expect it. When you're actually in the situation, dealing with the patient, dealing with all kinds of really awful things associated with alz, you go into a kind of auto pilot. On one level, you're absolutely shocked to the core, horrified, at some of the things you deal with when you deal with alz...and on another level you know you've GOT to deal, even though you wish to God you didn't have to, and so you do. You push your thoughts, your feelings, your emotions to the furthest reaches of your mind and you just wade in and deal and face it because there really is no other choice.

I saw horrors. I was bombarded with horrors. I wish I could sit here and pretty up alz. I wish I could honestly say it really wasn't that bad. But I can't. Because alz really is THAT bad and worse.

And it's done something to me that's almost scary. It's turned me, along with life next to a narcissist, into a recluse. I don't want to talk to anyone. I don't want to deal with anyone. I get sick and tired of listening to people pissing and moaning all over the internet about stupid little shit and playing the victim card. I have no patience, no tolerance, for people that are determined to be miserable when they really have no idea what true misery really is. A group of people on another site I'm on got into a fluff and a battle over the world 'girly' being used to describe pink. Some users were REALLY offended and outraged that someone would give the color pink a 'girly' label....after all, BOYS wear pink, too! Really? You have the energy to rage and scream about a word. One word? Well, as far as I'm concerned, if people have the luxury for the energy it takes to get that worked up over a single word, frankly, I don't give a damn how offended they are, they don't get much sympathy from me. I get tired of people whining over nothing, taking all the little things for granted. I'm tired of this world and the people in it. I don't want to do anything for anyone with the exception of the people close to me. I'm tired of this overly PC world, where everyone has to worry about offending people with every word they say. I don't have the damn energy to worry about other people's stupid dramas. I don't want anyone taking anything from me, asking anything of me, wanting something from me or having expectations of me. I can't stand the thought of it. I want solitude. I want to retreat from this crazy world. After living under a rock for all those years, it feels as though I've stepped onto another planet and I don't recognize the inhabitants, don't know them anymore...and I don't want to. My mom's care took everything out of me. Including my ability to give a shit about anyone else, especially people that do nothing but grip and complain over what amounts to nothing. I don't have the inclination, the energy or the time for the bullshit of the masses in society. I just don't want anything to do with any of it. I don't want people expecting shit out of me at this point. I don't want to compromise, or negotiate. I have nothing for anyone. And sometimes I don't think I ever will. I can't even consider a relationship or a man in my life because I don't want to....give...anymore. And I know this is wrong. I don't like it. But that's exactly the way it is. I've become selfish and reclusive. And I can't seem to find it in me to apologize for it. And I can't see it ever changing. That's scary, because I'll be alone and that's wonderful, because I'll be alone. To me, solitude is peace. And I need all the peace I can get after this h*llish journey.
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Thanks for your patience, all of you. I might come here once in a blue moon to just get out some thoughts that are eating at me. Normally, I'm not this far down in the dregs, thank God. Today is just a really low day.

I'm hoping with enough time all of this, all these emotions and some of the lousier memories, will simply go away.

Take care, all of you. Get the breaks you need and the more of them the better. People need away from alz. A lot.
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SA, very good to hear from you! You have been through quite a battle with what you have endured. You are a very strong person, as we all are. You saw things in your Mom that many of us won't and continued to care for her until the end. Best wishes to you in the journey yet ahead of you! We all miss you.
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SA I can somewhat relate. It's exactly five years ago that I quit my career, sold my home and moved to care for my narcissistic mother. It's been 5 years of pure h*ll. With aging, parkinsons, dementia and strokes, mean and nasty, things gradually went down hill, spells in hospital,, dashes to the ER and increasing falls until she had a major fall in the middle of the night, taken to hospital and from there she went into a NH.

It didn't end there with her being mean and nasty to other residents, causing chaos, screaming tantrum phone calls every day, finding a new home for me and my animals, sorting, packing and moving, clearing the old house and getting it renovated for sale (in mid winter (hobbling on a cane with a broken toe).

The past 5 years have been a total nightmare but things are improving. I'm still renovating the tiny house I bought out in the country and my mother (88) has no fight left in her. I had a list of outside to do's for yesterday but it rained (like the monsoons!) all day so I went into town for groceries. As usual, I stopped in at the NH to see what she needed. She can't speak much and it's hard to understand what she does say but she's totally calm with a smile and look on her face like a small child. She's never been happy with anything in her life but she seems to have finally found some peace.

New to this area, I'm gradually getting to know a few people but, like you, I mostly keep to myself, totally avoiding anyone who's negative or drama. I have one house across the road - bible thumping nutters but they keep to themselves and I ignore them - then nothing but fields and forest with the occasional house or farm for miles. Suits me perfectly and I'm starting to heal.

Caring for someone with physical issues is hard enough, but dealing with mental issues on top of it 24/7 destroys you. It's a long road back and I hope, in time, you will start to feel better. Dog Bless you - and, no, that's not a typo :)
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