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Barbara there are no words of comfort that will heal your pain. It will take a very long time for your convalescence to lead you back into the world. Blessings and good thoughts as you begin your new journey in life. Never give up.
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Downtrodden today after my 'oldest' brother called and wanted to quickly bypass me (like I'm a piece of meat) to talk with 'our' mother... This quickly puts me in a very bad mood, since they've blacklisted me and my mother thinks they're the cream of the crop.... All this while I do it all for my mother who lives with me... Can help it... it really depressed me... sucks all the energy out of me...
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... The 'younger' brother just called to 'return' my mother's call... same thing... could care less about me (his 'only' sister)... What's with people that are so selfish that they only care about themselves?... My heart and mind is so screwed up, I'm just hoping I won't get sick (although, I'm so depressed lately that I don't care about even being here any more)... People say to talk with 'someone'... a 'counselor'... which I am... but, the bottom line is ... nobody really cares and my life has turned for the worse after being 'nice' to my family all my life up until I took care of my mother (10 yrs ago)... I'm so disgusted.... don't think I can make it out of this depression... I'm never going to be the person I used to be ... I used to be happy... but, don't know what that even means any more... sorry to write this here... Just hating life.
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H2H, I understand how you feel, believe it or not... right now I am very depressed also... it doesn't seem like it to others because thru the years I have learned how to 'put the mask on', mostly for self preservation. And at this time of my journey, I am emotionally exhausted from carrying the weight of acting like everything is ok, when it absolutely is not.....you are not alone....

I am not going to say talk to your counselor, get on some meds, ect.... you already know all of that..... but I can tell you what has saved my life and my sanity more times than I can count...... I do have some of the most awesome friends on the planet... some here on AC, some in real life..... I stopped having anything to do with my family so long ago, can't remember when it was.... I learned that it didn't matter how much I was 'nice' to them..... didn't matter.... some of it is because they are incapable of it, and some of it is because I has
expectations without stating my needs......
don't get me wrong... I would not state my needs to my family..... that would just be stupid. But I do state my needs to my friends.... and they are present for me......I do get weary of walking this road.... and have been and still am as depressed as you are now....but I would never give my family the power to destroy me and let them be 'right'..... I'm too stubborn for that, thank goodness....You may need to be appreciated or validated or what ever your needs are... but to keep wanting it from people who can not or will not give it to you is not going to help.... we are here for you.... no, we don't get to set at your table and drink coffee with you and listen... but we are here, and we do listen....we do understand.... and you are not alone.... you may not be getting things you want or the way you want it.... but you do have friends here... utilize them....... sending you prayers of energy to do what you need to do to take one small baby step forward.... we do understand...
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In the past month, parents of two friends have passed. Father of one friend, the closest person to a father that I had, died with Parkinson's. Mother of another friend. Now ex MIL is in the hospital, had a stroke and a heart attack yesterday afternoon, they think. She laid on the floor in her independent living apartment for about 18 hours before she was found. Hospital is now concerned about pneumonia developing because of the length of time she laid there. She was an absolutely wonderful MIL, so kind and considerate. Always there to help me with the kids however she could.

She fell and broke a hip about 10 years ago, nobody thought she would survive that. Then developed breast cancer and a double mastectomy about 5 years ago. Nobody thought she would survive that. She was in the hospital about two years ago, couldn't walk found it was too much calcium, nobody thought she would survive that, or be able to live independently again. But she did, she is a fighter. Lost her husband to prostate cancer 35 years ago. This may be her time and I am so sad about so many things.
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my mom has suffered for months with sundowners but always was happier on the weekends...well not sure what they call it but ive been calling it sunuppers on weekends. Just a horrible mood nothing can usually alter her mood. Sometimes STEve Harvey show or her George JOnes dvds but the last two weekends nothing has worked. My brother and sister in law are visiting this friday saturday sunday so hopefully that will lift her spirits. All she tells me is that she is tired of me i need to shut up and go away. If only it was that easy LOL She has been mad at me because my brother planned this vacation a couple months ago and she thinks im the reason he doesn't come right away. Doesn't understand u have to plan it for work and get approval. We had cut her down from 5 days at daycare to 3 and it hasnt made things easier so we are going back to homecare but my main problem now is getting the lady to keep her appointment with me to change the services. They just changed jobs around and last monday she didn't show for our appointment no call to explain and no call back to my 8 voicemails. Wrote a letter to director hopefully can get someone to call me back. My counselor has been leaving her voicemails too. I even asked the receiptionist who said she was at her desk but screening calls I guess. Its crazy that I look forward to going back to work to relax. BIG HUGS to everyone...prepairing for my monday.
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Heart2 - I understand what you mean about the bros bypassing you. That had happened to a few times with me. Hurts. Like I'm a Nobody. Before I found this site, I kept trying and trying to hold on to loyalty with my sibs. No matter how much they hurt me, I clung on as tight as I could. Then I found this site. Had to accept some very hard truths - that my siblings are Not Obligated to help with mom. That I Chose to be here, and I cannot expect the same with my sibs. I think that's when I started to lower my expectations of them. Although most people here had detached from the sibs, I still continued to cling to them. They're family, all I have in this world. No hubby, no children. Just my siblings. So, I chose to maintain my relationship with them. Sadly, the ultimate betrayal was when mom died. I had never once thought my siblings would be like the siblings of posters here. I Truly Did Not Believe It. I was betrayed, hurt, Disillusioned. Something died that day with regards to my sibs. I think my heart was shattered. Because now, when my siblings tell me of their hardships, I no longer care. I don't sympathize back. I read, shrug, and continue reading. I was always the one, all these years, initializing, maintaining our relationship. Since mom died, I rarely email to them, now.

Heart2, every time your brothers do this to you, it will hurt you but it will also harden you if there is any eventual betrayal. I'd start learning to detach from them emotionally now. This way they cannot hurt you as much as it is now.

This was an advice given to me here on AC. I liked it. So, I copied and pasted it on my file under Detach & Boundaries. I'm still working on it. =)
*** Detaching is separating yourself emotionally, socially, spiritually, even physically from another person. - to be indifferent, remote from them. It does not necessarily mean you ignore them, just that you don't let their behavior affect you so much. ***
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Glad - I'm sorry about the passing of the man who was like a father to you. And now your ex-MIL. I had always wondered, in the commercials for that Alert system, why they always said that when the elderly falls, that they almost died from lying there for hours. I think your post gave me an idea of why they say this - pneumonia. She is a very strong woman. {{hugs}}

Chrissy, I know about the red tapes and phone calls with no one calling back. When mom was close to death's door, we tried and tried to get the doctor and hospice. But no one wanted to budge. We Had to Follow Rules. Mom was close to dying, the ambulance ride on our dirt road, to transfer her to/from the gurney, etc.. would be too much. We already knew that it hurt her so badly when we turned her on her side while changing pampers. In the end, because NO ONE was calling us because they already told us what to do (No Compromising), we called Adult Protective Service. The man said this is not their jurisdiction, what did we expect from him? Older sis (very good at verbal arguments) shot back - help us find a compromise. Unfortunately, mom died before that happened. .. Do you know what pissed me off???!!! Mom's Health CASE WORKER for both the clinic and the hospice actually had the nerve to call Me at work. This person who did not call back or anything, had the nerve to call me to ask how my dad is doing. I was very cold with her. I told her to call him and find out. Then I hung up. She never called dad. She knew he would have blasted her. So, I sympathize with you and the runaround you're having right now. You might have to just go in person and make your complaints. Or email it directly to him/her. What you just wrote now, write it to him/her. {{chuckling}} My work was always my escape from caregiving - from dad's mouth. Ugh! Just this morning, I was thinking, "I can't wait to go back to work tomorrow!"
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I try to listen to wise council...every one says take care of you...started being more careful about meds...watching what I eat...started exercising...signed up for curves...then signed up at a regular gym with my husband...Word to the wise if you don't know how a piece of equipment works...STAY OFF OF IT!...Did fine with the weight machines...used the stationary bike...got on the treadmill...that was my first mistake...didn't know it had a safety feature...was not wearing my glasses so could not read the button that said "stop"...hit the wrong button trying to slow the thing down and made it go even faster...flew off of the thing going faster than I've traveled without a car in over 50 years...ended up I the emergency room with a severely dislocated shoulder...I know this because with percoset and dilauted (I'm sure I spelled both of those wrong)the doctor twisted and pulled trying to get it to go back into place with me trying to remember every breathing technique I could from child birth classes 45 years ago...could not get it to go back into place...had to wait another half hour before they could put me out because I had eaten lunch (on time) they finally knocked me out and my husband said there were 4 or 5 different people pulling and twisting on it before it finally went back into place...it's been in a sling since Wednesday...back to the doctor tomorrow to have it rechecked...shoulder doesn't hurt it's every muscle and tendon going down my arm that does when I try to move it...my motto is never do anything half way...if you're going to mess it up do it big time...can't even dress myself alone...told my husband he used to be pretty fast at getting my bra off but he sucks at putting one on...Being ever so grateful that I have him to help me...
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Red so sorry your good intentions came undone.The motto here for you and any one else especially if you are older start out slow and I mean very slow like 15 mins of stretch type exercises and walking or swimming. I expect the Dr will refer you for PT when the worst is over. While you are there ask them to reccomend some easy begining exercises to start you off. Yes the muscles will be visciously painful for at least a couple of weeks. A lot of muscle fibers were torn both at the accident and when they were manhandling it.
When I was a young orthopedic nurse one of the surgeons showed us how to reduce a shoulder dislocation. You laid the patient on the floor and the Dr lay beside but head to toe. He then put his foot in the axilla and pulled and twisted the arm back into place. Doing it that way gave him a lot more strength stabilizing the shoulder with his foot and getting the traction on the arm he needed.
As far as the bra is concerned let the girls have their freedom for a few weeks after all you are wearing a sling and won't be running so no one will know except you and hubby. When he is dressing you always put the bad arm into the sleeve first that way you can bend the other to get it in. I expect you knew that from helping MIL. Don't be afraid to use the pain meds but watch for constipation. Of course you knew that too but others may not. Don't worry about a thing everything can wait allow yourself to be waited on the only exertion permitted is posting on AC so we will be waiting for lots of updates. Take Care. Lots of very gentle hugs
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LadyM - Thank you so much for what you said and being 'here' for me. It means more than you'll ever know. Thank you for giving me courage and strength to go forward, especially in my vulnerable state of being. My mother is a constant 'reminder' when she laughs and talks with them on the phone, and I feel deadened inside.

Booklvr - Thank you so much also for what you shared with me. It also means more than you know. I feel so badly that you are going through the pain and disappointment I (and others) are going through here with their siblings... It hurts badly. I was also trying (for decades) to hold on to my siblings as they are/were my only family. I'm now starting to 'learn' how to detach... mentally... The difficult part is the constant 'reminder' of the pain when they call my mother (who lives with me) and they all get 'together' and leave me out... I am trying not to get sick... I never knew this kind of 'hatred' existed in families... I'm trying... Thank you for being here for me...

You are my sisters on AC... God Bless you and take care of you.
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H2H, thank you also... for reminding me that doing what it took to 'divorce' myself from my family was totally worth it.....unfortunately our self worth starts with our families.... but as adults, we get to recreate a new self worth... the true one..... but it takes other people, not family, to help us create and define our self... I so rarely think of my family, but I think of all of you every day.... so onward thru the fog..... it may not get better for awhile, but it does start to get different..... and different is my pathway out of the pain of family..... I have an unbelievable family today, one I chose or some that chose me..... so hang in there.... keep coming back and sharing..... getting to know folks here.... a lot of love here..... so hugs and chocolate to you...... !!!!!

I can relate Book, to when my brother died.... know when I found out... the day of the funeral..... I know that was a turning point for me, just looking at them for who they are in the world, and knowing I did not want to be like them in any way.... my 'divorce' from them started then.... to this day, none of them understand or care why that upset me..... speaks volumes about THEM doesn't it.....

Red, I am soooo sorry about your accident.... can not imagine the pain during and after..... I was cringing when I was reading what it took to get it back in place..... guess the treadmill will be replaced with stationary bike.... something that doesn't move.... let us know how you are doing.... and just take it easy, those muscles and tendons take a long time to heal......like MsV said, gentle hugs.......
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Thank you LadeeM... Will keep on trying (different routes) to find the person I used to be... and, try to get some happiness back... Hopefully, I can be as fortunate as you to meet new friends that care and go the distance with me at this stage of my life. That means reverting back to the days before I got 'involved' with caring about 'my' family. Caring only got me into problems that has almost made me ill. I was only hurting myself by doing too much for those that didn't care (my family).
I'm glad you're doing better...
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Heart sadly, once you become a care giver, friends and family mostly flee and abandon you. I have no siblings and the friends I still have I can count on one hand, but they are true friends. Do the best you can and ignore the drama, even though it hurts like h*ll. You are worth so much more and those that hurt and abandon you, well, karma's a b*tch!
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Back to the doctor today for my follow up visit...at my son's urging I went ahead and told the doc about all the different pain spots from before the accident too...(didn't have time to deal with it taking care of MIL) apparently I damaged the rotator cuff of my left shoulder about a year ago...good news is that the physical therapy exercises they will give me for the shoulder I dislocated will help that old injury too. I also have tendonitis in my right heel (that's my good one the other one has screws holding my tendon in place) so I'm basically a 65 year old mess with anti inflammatory pills...I start physical therapy Friday...the doc got rid of the sling today and gave me some simple movements to practice till Friday...I was actually able to get my pants up and down by myself today...Progress! Thanks for the advice and support...hugs to all
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Family I wonder what they are. My dad left when I was ten and his last words to Mum were "You can keep the kid" I tried to contact my grandmother sent her and the aunts and uncles presents the first Christmas just little home made crafts from a ten year old. I was away at boarding school so mother never knew about this. Not one word from any of them. That hurt my ten year old heart but I crossed them off my list for ever. I tried to get in touch with dad and finally he wrote telling me not to contact him again because until I was 18 I was in my mothers care. He even refused to come to my wedding even though I had by then reconnected with him, new wife and daughter. At 16 as I left school Mum told me I had better find a job because she was not supporting me. Of course once I was sucessful and married a Dr she had something to boast about and boast she did. But it was too late.
The lessons I learnt at a very young age were that you can never go back, you can never re-creat the life you once had. You have to always move forward and it will be a struggle but you only have yourself to depend on, No one else can fix anything for you, yes you will slip and fall, make mistakes and poor choices but through it all you have to be true to yourself. Find that path through the woods, it is there even if you have to use a machete to find it. Friends are some of the most wonderful gifts we can recieve and give to others. I do have family a husband of 51 years who has been far from perfect but truly loves me and three wonderful children that I know would all care for me. I also have true friends nearby who are always there for me and have helped me out many times. Now I am making new friends here on AC. We can all manage without family and in some cases choose to have little contact with other humans. Our society is not built on family values in many cases and mobility discourages close knit groups these days.
I have a great interest in the self sufficient lifestyle and try to practice many of the skills but especially now in my later years realize being a loner would not be such a good idea. Heat with wood - wonderful, but I can't chop wood anymore. Even line drying my laundry has gone by the wayside this summer. Did make some jam yesterday from fresh peaches but did not stand over the hot stove stiring till it reached setting temperature. No I used my new automatic jam maker that does the whole job in 1/2 an hour with little supervision.
So what has all this rambling got to do with uncaring siblings and depression? It has to do with finding your own place in the world and living where you are at now. Wishing for an old life or one free from ailments is simply not going to happen. Realize the limitations and try to find joy in simple things that please you and let those bothersome family members find their own reality. It may come as a shock to them when they look back at their empty lives and find they have no one to care about them. The road is long and hard but you can only do your best. Blessings
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Red, I flew off the treadmill once. I forgot to clip on the string. I tend to walk crooked when I get tired. I got distracted, slammed to the right, my foot hit the side that doesn't move, and the next thing I knew, I was slamming so hard against the dresser drawer. The intense pain from my whole back area was immense. I couldn't even stand up straight because my foot kept hitting the moving tread. Only when I finally got my feet steady was I able to stand up. I'm glad that I didn't break any bones. Just my pride. And newfound fear over treadmills. I start panicking when I find myself walking too slow that I'm getting too close to the back edge. I have to run to go back up to the front. Yikes, I didn't know that I could get hurt as badly as you did! I hope you heal faster. Maybe follow what the home care nurse told my dad. "Eat protein to help your body heal faster."
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Book when i was doing the treadmill part of the cardiac stress test the nurse told me to take longer strides when I could not keep up. That really helped a lot and made it much easier.
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Veronica, a wonderful post which I'm sure will be an inspiration to so many. Now living in the country, a simple lifestyle, watching the seasons change, wild life and peace and quiet feeds my soul and is helping me heal.

I've been lucky enough to find a handyman, muscle helper who is inexpensive and lives close by to do the heavy stuff I can't. The little house is all electric but I'm planning on installing a wood stove before winter. Starting to grow veggies - tomatoes, beans, beets, spinach and carrots this year - and the berry bushes are fruiting well their second year.

Apart from an elderly uncle and a couple of distant cousins in another country I have no family. When I visited my mother yesterday she was in awful shape and said "I'm going soon", to which I replied "Oh, aren't we just the little ray of sunshine today" which made her smile but she's right. I don't think she will make it much further. Though I've always had dogs and cats, I've lived alone and done for myself most of my life. We've never been close, far from it, but when my mother passes I think somehow I'll feel like an orphan. Weird isn't it?
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Veronica, a lot of great gems on your life story. You were way ahead in your thought process. Wish I learned to do that when young - instead of burying most of the bad memories. I don't even know if I can adopt your attitude. It's a different way of thinking. Know what I mean? Thanks!
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Sundance movie about the power of music with dementia patients

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Here's a list of where it's playing.. Alive Inside...

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MsV, thank you so much for all you shared..... I was always told by my mom that she wished shed never had me... so I understand....just at some point in my life, I understood I had to learn 'to fit inside my own skin'... I never have been one to care what others thought of me... guess that was a 'gift' the family gave me, I just learned, in the long run, we can't make others happy... and we can't give away what we don't have.... If I have no compassion for myself, or forgiveness, or empathy, or acceptance... then I can't give it to others....
I am not always thrilled with my choices.... but I don't beat me up, and I sure as h*ll won't let anyone else do it....
One of the things I make myself do when I am very depressed, is when I leave the house, I make it a point to make eye contact with people and smile... most of the time , they smile back... so sometimes I have to give in order to receive... and the smiles eventually lift my spirits some.....

Guess so some extent, we heal in some way till the day we die..... by planting flowers, by loving our animals.... smiling when we don't feel like.... our only limitations is our imagination......

What I can not do alone, I can do with my awesome friends.... that is my family..... hugs to everyone...
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I have mentioned repeatedly here how I'm terrified of cockroaches. For the past few weeks, I've been buying some inexpensive furniture from a Chinese mom & pop store. Last night, after showering, I came into the livingroom and saw this giant dark insect flying overhead. Darn! A cockroach! I quickly grabbed the closest RAID and it was running low. So, I went to get the one in the bedroom. Good, still lots of ammo in it. I watched the roach land on the curtain near dad. Is that cockroach??? That doesn't look like our native cockroach. I kept staring at it. It was slimmer but longer body and darker color - close to black (not brown like ours.)

It went behind the curtain. I stood there waiting, shaking the can. I knew that sooner or later, it will show itself - like all roaches do. I heard it scurrying. {{shudder}} There it is! On the floor. Still don't look like a roach. I sprayed it and fled. Our roaches - if you spray it - it goes Crazy, running around like Speedy Gonzales - so difficult to keep track with your eyes. That's how fast our roaches run or fly. This roach (?) didn't even move at all. It moseyed on the floor. Hmmm...not a roach? OMG! Please let this Raid work because I don't want to stomp on it. I sprayed it again. Hmmm.. No reaction. Moseying along. I sprayed it again. Sat down on the sofabed and watched it moseying around. It Finally showed signs when it tried to climb up and kept falling.

This morning, I googled variety of roaches. I found it! It's an Oriental roach! OMG!!! We will now have 2 versions of this cockroach!!! Pros- it doesn't run fast like ours - so easier to kill. Cons - it takes More Raid to kill it.

After work, I'm going to Google our environmental control somebody and ask them if we are now being infested by this kind of roach. And if not, I have a dead one they can have - and where I THINK it hijacked from.
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Oh Book, you have me laughing out loud... I know it's not funny, but they are so creepy... ANY kind of roach..... yesterday I had left a can of wet food for my cat open on the counter.... getting ready for work and picked it up to put in the fridge... a small, tiny compared to yours, roach ran across my hand... I screamed,threw the can and stood there like a fool with cat food dripping down the wall.... was late for work... but did not tell the daughter it was because I was attacked by a quarter inch roach and cat food was on the wall... just didn't feel she needed to know that..... lol......keep that spray handy girl..... sorta like pepper spray for rapists.........
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I know this may sound stupid but I am now about 19 days after neck surgery and after 6 PT sessions I was finally able to bend over and shave my legs,what a milestone!
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Tex, congrats! It's the small stuff that we take for granted until something like surgery highlights it. I remember when I had my hysterectomy in Hawaii. I brought my Nike shoes for walking. sigh... I just did not realize that it was going to be impossible to bend over to Tie the shoes! I had to go and buy a slip on slipper. No need to bend over at all.
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My caregiver respite case worker called me today. She wanted to meet me this afternoon for a revaluation. She asked me how is it at home, my caregiving, work, stress? heath? I said, "I'm fine! I'm not as stressed since mom passed away last year. Dad is not so bad Yet." No matter what she asked, I was doing fine. You need to remember that before, I was caregiving 2 bedriddens. So, with just dad now, I'm handling it much much better.

Then, she had me fill out this questionaire. 0 for never, 1 rare, 2 sometimes, 3 is most times, 4 is all the time. I breezed through it. Lots of 1 and 3 and 4. I gave it to her. She checked the numbers, added it up, and said, "According to this, you are very stressed out." Ohhhh....

I told her that compared to when mom was alive, I mentally think I'm doing really well. BUT my body is saying the opposite. I admit, I've been getting chest pains lately. And last night, when I was changing dad's pamper, I got so dizzy, I landed on his bed. sigh... Like you all - she kept emphasizing that I need to see the doctor. I Was suppose to call in and make an appointment. Really. But I keep forgetting. I even wrote a note of reminder. Except, I can't find it.

Ha! I guess I still qualify in their caregiver respite program. I really thought I was doing good. Obviously, I'm not. I just got a brainstorm. I'm going to set up an alarm for tomorrow around 10am- it will remind me to call the clinic and make an appointment. I will ask both of my nieces to also send me a text to remind me. This way, I won't forget. Gotta do that now before I forget....since it's time to change dad's pamper.
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Book you really made me laugh but we've all got something that gives us the eeby jeebies. My thing is snakes. Out here we just have little grass snakes. They're harmless and eat a lot of bugs but they still creep me out. Never had roaches but out here in the country fleas and ticks can be a problem. Had a flea infestation but with treating the critters, diligent laundry, vac and spraying they were gone. Then came Lucy, the little rescue kitten, loaded with worms, fleas and lice. She's in quarantine but I had fleas back in the main house so here we go again. I seem to be winning the battle.

Ladee I can picture that in my mind and I'm still laughing. I leave the back door open all day so the critters can come and go as they please which lets loads of flies in. I've got pretty good with the fly swatter!

Tex, way to go! Just don't overdo it.

Book if you qualify for respite go for it! In my experience care givers eventually go numb, never feeling very well and just trudging from day to day. You really do need to get away for a while.
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Tex, all that time I thought it was just a major infestation of crickets... whew, happy to know it was just your hairy legs rubbing together making that noise....!!! But that is major advancement to be able to bend over like that.... don't hurt yourself..... happy you are making progress....

Book, it's not that you aren't doing good, you are.... but like what was said... we just get to the point we don't pay attention anymore....and what are you going to tell the Dr..??? What can a Dr. do??? Are they going to go to the house and take care of dad while you come to the states and visit all of us.... then we take you hostage and won't let you go back home????? Let us know what the Dr says.

Cujo has been doing so great since the daughter has stopped giving her Seroquel....no more outbursts.... ect......it won't last, but at least now I will know what is her LBD, or med related behavior.....this whole week we have talked and laughed and had a relaxing time... if the old man would not insist on being the center of attention and still yammering about when he was in the WAR.....

It almost got weird last night.... he was starting to 'preach'...uh, no, we really shouldn't go there , right???....After a few minutes of that, I suggested we change the subject as each person has their own beliefs and we can just simply respect that in each other.... I AM SO TIRED .... of not being who I am.... no way was that what was going on in my head in reaction and response to that monologue.....always being professional.....Keeping my mouth shut is taking it's toll.... lol....
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