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This site is wonderful. I feel better already. It is still stress and no rest, but if you all can do it I can too! I love your stories. My brain is fried most of the time and I don't even feel like talking. One day at a time and do the best I can. That is what I focus on. I don't know respite, don't think we have money for that. Love to all!
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Caregiver respite is a local and federally funded program that my dad found when mom was diagnosed. When he had the stroke, I became the primary caregiver. I then qualified based on how difficult the care receiver and the caregiver's stress. Since my stress level is very high, they were willing to pay for someone to come in on Saturday to do some house cleaning based on my added stress of also doing the house work on top of everything else. I refused it. Dad is in that stage where it will drive me nuts on his non-stop accusations of stealing for weeks. Hence the 're-evaluation. I don't pay at all for this respite service. Gov't sponsored program.
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Book it seems that the delusion that people are stealing is very common. My mother, in a NH and coming to the end of life, has been insisting for months that people steal her clothes, cookies and treats, when in fact her closets are bursting a the seams and she probably chowed down on chocolate, cookies and so on in the middle of the night and didn't remember. She insists on being reclusive and there's a sign on her door "Please close my door". Recently she insists her door often opens a little then closes. "They are looking to see if I'm here so they can steal my stuff". Of course it's just a nurse or aide looking in to make sure she's ok.

No-one in my family has ever had parkinsons or dementia, though my paternal grandmother got a bit whacky when she was 90+ and had to be placed for her own safety. My maternal grandma was a wonderful woman, Sara. She loved animals, gardening and nature and was back then an animal rescuer, even before there was such thing. She dropped dead from stroke in her 80s but I feel her close to me more and more. We are kindred spirits you see - nature, animals, growing stuff.

If I ever start losing my mind I'm outta here. I'm making provision for my beloved pets so they are safe and cared for when I pass. In the meantime I smoke and like a drink ... sue me. After a life time of abuse caused by Mommie Dearest I will go out my way and I'll cross the Rainbow Bridge.
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I am blessed to have many RN friends.... they all know when and if it gets bad, take me out !!!!!! Or I will do it myself, just give me the drugs.... either way, I am not going to be like the people I take care of .... or my dad..... my dad was like your mom Ash...... rarely do we hear much about narc dads... but he was one for sure.....

Poor Cujo was trying to step on a spider last night and ended up falling back into the bathtub... !!! I went running in there and there she was..... with her legs hanging over the side of the tub....she did bump her head.... after she let me check her out that nothing was broken or bent, she maneuvered herself in such a way I could help her out of the tub....funny how the aching back wasn't an issue until later when I realized what I had done..... but she was fine... a little rattled....but not hurt physically..... after she got finished in the bathroom she stomped, as much as anyone with a walker can stomp, into the living room and read MrM the riot act for not coming to help her !!!! Talk about a 911 situation...... ya, emergency, there is a pile of old people in the bathroom, can you send some help.... ???

Just been tuning out the daughter... she never says anything of importance, so just waiting until her lips stop moving is helping..... what ever it takes, right ya'll??!!!

Last night..... woot woot..... Love and hugs.... and chocolate.... chocolate in on my menu tonight for sure..... love ya'll
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wow - what a few days: I have been called a child, a boy, an idiot and worse. I have been receiving calls from my Senior with stroke related dementia that begin with her shouting and threatening me. And then she asks for help. The ice trays are half full and she throws a fit. The nastiness and abuse is overwhelming today. ANd I keep telling myself as I say nothing, "it's the dementia, it's the age…" But boy - the family her siblings don't want to help. And I am tempted to move out of this care giving situation. And let them know - that I can't do this anymore.
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stopping by to say hi! goodness, how long has it been! Book and Ladee- I laughed and laughed at your roach stories for I can see myself doing exactly the same! Book, we have 2 kinds of roaches here - german and american...one of them can fly - how nasty is that???? my MIL had palmetto bugs which are HUGE roaches!!! I loved going to visit her but at night if you walked into a dark room, you stomped your feet and made lots of vibration so they would run and hide before I would turn on the lights! NOTHING is worse than roaches!!!! Have had a quiet summer so far....
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Congratulations Tex...I understand completely...today was the first time in a week that I could get dressed all by myself...a little uncomfortable but I got it done and felt pretty proud of myself...I start physical therapy Friday...I
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Thanks for the opportunity to vent. MIL has lived with us for 10 years. Things were OK for the first 5, then she started having surgeries for knee replacement, etc. Three years ago I had cancer and the chemo left me with nerve and other deficits, including chronic fatigue. I've been dragging for the past 3 years and am now totally burned out; a wreck at 67 as she turns 90. I told my husband that I am retiring from caregiving and we are going to talk with her, along with his siblings, about hiring people to come in for her 7 days a week. Hubby still works and I need a life. I'm hopeful and nervous as she is considered the "queen" of the family and expects that kind of treatment. I'm praying that she is willing to spend some of her $$$ on care.
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VTshan, Every caregiver needs respite, even I as hired caregiver! I stayed with client for entire 4 days and 3days off, perfect jobs for me! I'm self-employed, so I get 1099-mis for the end of the year. I never thought about when I get injure or going to sued my client. I have been this type of business over 20 years, I know there's lots of good caregiver at there!! Hire someone and enjoy your life!!
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Onedoor, stomping your feet when entering a once darkened room does the Opposite effects with our roaches. Darn thing must have some kind of radar or sonar capability. It just never fails. When I try to make stomping noises and waving that clothes catalog, the roaches fly/run straight at me! That’s why I always have on my left hand the catalog to wave it from my face (as if I can see fast enough- Not!) and the Raid on my right hand. I’ve had roaches run straight at me, then Fly straight to my legs or body. Then I’m squealing and jumping and waving my clothes trying to get it off me. Hence, the Spray and RUN.

I have read that when a person starts to get dementia, it affects their brain, their thinking. I was like you all. If I start to get like mom, I would kill myself. But, the latest studies show that this reasoning goes away when you get dementia. You can write a note to remind yourself. But when the time arrives, you can read it and be puzzled by the instructions. That was just sooooo disappointing! The only way to do this would be to have someone help you commit suicide without them getting caught.

VTShan, I hope the family is united on this – even if MIL is against it. I Hope she agrees to help in paying for her care – but I really doubt it. Maybe she will surprise us all and agree.

Onlytheonly, hang in there. In the meantime, find ways to tune her out, work around her hissy fits, and an alternate place of living (for you or her) when you've had enough. I have several options if I ever decide to walk away from dad. Because I have these viable options, I can handle him. Knowing that I can walk off if I wanted.
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Only...I would not have lasted thru that! You are stronger than me!! I am not a huge proponent of using drugs to stifle people but this is onecase where it seems they need to give their family member something! NO ONE should have to put up withthat!
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Book, Don't forget to call the doctor!!!!!!!!!!
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Book, LOL! Waving the catalog, stomping feet, I am envisioning some sort of a tribal Dance of the Roaches! If this doesn't scare off the spirits, nothing will. I wonder if they see that and laugh. Maybe you are entertain them and they don't want to leave.
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Book, and remember to call the doctor!
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I forgot to call the doctor.... I remembered when I was in the uhm... restroom.. at work. But by the time I walked up the 3 floors of stairs, I forgot. I remembered when I was rushing out to do errands for work. Told myself to call when I got to the car. I forgot because when I got in the car, it was sooooo hot inside!

Glad, one thing I learned from these flying roaches, which I passed down this wisdom to my nieces when they would scream their heads off - over a lizard jumping on them. I told them that no matter how terrified you are, do NOT scream with your mouth open. Because the frightened lizard (for me, the roach), would see this dark cave (your mouth screaming wide open) and think it's a Safe place to Hide! They would most likely aim for your mouth. So, Glad, when I say I'm screaming when the cockroach lands on me, I'm screaming with my mouth closed. (Like a gagged person screaming.)

Off to shower. Only 1030pm and I'm soooo tired. Later....
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Mosey on off to the shower Book! Get a good night sleep.
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bookluvr, l can see that picture of you. You are fighting with monsters R....I did almost every day around evening and thru the night.... at Ewa Beach, HI. Oh my those things hit straight at your head !! I told my girls stayed inside so Big R don't carry away... I lived 5 years for that...now San Diego, don't see them any!!
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How am I today? Its been 6/12 year since the brain cancer eventually made mom totally bed bound with no speech or movements, 5/15 years mom has been under my supervision(nursing home then aunts home) and 3 years she has lived at home with me and in 5 days she is going to move to Massachusetts to be with my sister to give me a 1 year break. I'm tired, feel lost, feel guilty(always could have done more) yet Im happy because with me she is always surrounded by nursing care and at my sisters she will be surrounded by love. Hopefully it wont take me long to get to know myself again. thankfully mom my raised excellent children and one way or the other we will lover her at one of our homes until God tells us otherwise.
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Theresa -
You're very lucky to have such a good family to help (many of us don't)... Now is the time to give yourself some much deserved rest. You can always visit your mom, if you need to. The stimulation from the move may even help your mom a bit... We all feel the guilt of not doing enough. It comes with our nature. God Bless you and your family.
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Book do you think the roaches fly at you because they see the light from the open door behind you. What happens if you go ing with a flashlight. Could you try setting a plate with roach killer in the center of the room with a lighted candle in the middle and see if they ar attracted to that. Try not to burn the house down. dad would never get out without his shoes on at night.
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Today I am recovering from breakdown. Yesterday, I had a colonoscopy done, keep in mind I can't drive today)so my Dad is driving. So on the way home my son says he was hungry, We stop at the McDonald's to get something for him and Ice cream for us. My Dad is thinking he get'sto eat too! He hears me saying we are not staying to mom and gets back into the car,Well little did I know, my father began pining away in his head a way as to how to antagonize me for not letting us dine in. We get on the highway, he intentionally passes our exit , to remind me who is in control now. ha ha ha. He says he's driving and he'll go the way he wants to go. 15 miles out of the way. I try avoiding the antagonism, but he just kept pushing. (I am still recovering from my colonoscopy and being discharged 1/2 hour ago.) minutes go by which seems like eternity, it has escalated to the point my Mother 77 gets out of the car at a stoplight, my 8yr old follows and Myself as well. Rush hour traffic not so easy for mom to cross the road, me recovering from my procedure also have a mensicus tear on the mend along with my son. Are left abandoned. yes it was our Choice to get out, but He actually LEFT US THERE AND WENT HOME. Thankful for the generosity of a complete stranger, he took us home. Upon our return , I find the car running. Him inside the house packing his bags to leave. This is one of his little games he plays , drives off for hours to make you worry if he has crashed, or his insulin, or he had heart attack. But this time, i turn the engine off lock the car get his stuff out bring it in,an refuse to give him the keys.I can't defuse the situation, it has escalated even more... He begins pushing me, threatening me, cursing and screaming at me ( all this in front of my son) I don't back down telling him that he needs to settle down that he has become unstable and I will call the police, now he threatens he'll have them take me away and my son taken away from me. Again all in front of my son. I walk away and ignore his outbursts and threats now he's starts on my mom. We all retreat to leave him pacing and shouting, He finally, walks out.(my father is overweight and can't walk too well), but Strangely enough made his way or got a ride somehow, to the church, Funny, Now calls me to come PICK HIM UP! My father is making me crazy, my father has done this to me one too many times, the antagonism and personal attacks, the antagonizing and riding my son is not healthy for for anyone. his health and wellbeing or mine. He has no remorse, or guilt for his selfish behavior. My father fails to realize that I am his daughter, not his wife. I am not submissive and will defend what's right and admit I am wrong when I am wrong. The biggest problem he and I have is The Control Issue. Who has it. It is my home,yet i am the one to retreat to my room 85%of the time. How do i set the boundaries, I have allowed my father to overrun my house, regret what happened yesterday, and I am left saddened. . This episode was all brought on because he couldn't eat. Is there anyone out there that has these demons I am ashamed that my father can bring out such ugliness.
Sad thing is, I am still here. There to take care of them.
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If you can't leave for you, then leave for your son....
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This has gone beyond control it has become dangerous for all of you and for othesr out on the road.
Who does the car belong to? If it is yours don't allow him to drive it.
Go to social services, Catholic Charities or any other service in your area where you can talk to a social worker. Ask for their advice on what your options are. He has already used physical force on you and it can only escalate from here. He needs a psychological evaluation and if necessary medication to moderate his behavior. What does your mother want to happen. If she wants to be with him then they must go to some kind of assisted living situation.
Do you have any siblings who could intervene.
If he owns the car give him the keys and let him pack up but tell him in no uncertain terms that he will not be allowed to return to the house. if he tries to get in call the police and have him removed. he will probably get so mad that they will take him to the ER for an evaluation. Once there you can tell them you are no longer able to care for him and will not allow him to return to your home. he has already demonstrated violence against you and you are fearful for the safety of your young child.
Hard as it may be you do need to act now before it gets worse. Blessings
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Unfortunately, I gave them this car. I feel I bring this on myself. I moved them back to Ohio last year, where they have their own home where my brother has been living since his divorce. Before I moved them back to Ohio, they lived in my guest house. I could no longer support them and myself. Since then, I have bought a new home. However it has a guest suite. They came down for my sons 1st Communion in May and haven't left. When I decided to sell my house last year , we had a major breakdown. I was told that I couldn't help a college friend who needed a place to stay. I am 47 single/widowed mom. I have been on my own until I decided to have a child after my husband passed in 2003. My parents have been there since my sons birth and moved in when he was 2. After this incident, I told them I was selling my house. They said they were gonna go back to Ohio. Great! They were shocked that I did not ask them to stay and move into the new home. I indicated that it was time for me to PARENT MY SON, without them telling me how, and without all the turmoil. My Father begs me to let them stay and that they understand, he'll behave . I did not give in. Unfortunately, 10 months later, I opened the door again. My son had his 1st communion in May and they have been here since. You are right ladeem. I need to live for my son. Veronica 91, I appreciate your advice. I have talked to my son to let him know that what Grandpa has done is not normal and by no means was any of this his fault. They will not take me or him away. That what I said to Grandpa that I needed to call the police, was because of the way he was acting. I didn't want him or us to get hurt. My mother feels that I am the root to my fathers antagonizing, because he knows he can push the right buttons until I. Myself snap and become unstable. My mother will call my siblings and the finger will always be pointed at me, simply because I am the one who created this monster just by reacting. After last nights episode, my siblings conclude that what he did was Unforgiveable. They don't see the bigger picture. That my father is becoming more unstablle. They agree that I did let it escalate, and again I should've kept my mouth shut. But I just got out of the freakin hospital to be left on the side of the road. I could not let my mother be alone. Reality is that they are ignoring the facts. I have one sibling that says If she had to live that closely to Dad, she would probably have to commit herself, my brother, who lives in their house, retreats, and avoids the confrontation, my other siblings don't care about him because he has always been a horrible man. My mother is dependent on him, and feels I am fueling his rage. My mother doesn't want to acknowledge this behavior, but I do believe he is getting worse and soon he will become a danger to himself and others his mentality is rage and hate the world. Cut people off on the road, let them hit me, He'll cause that accident just to prove his point, they were following too closely. That is not the right mentality. Who wants to intentionally cause an accident. Cause and effect. Innocent people get hurt with these childish games. . His problem is he has to be the one in control, he cannot admit that he needs help or anyone. My mother is afraid of the outcome, or the embarrassment or the attention it would bring. Veronica19 , as I have these thoughts, I do conclude he does need an evaluation., he will never go for that so for now, I send them home and let my brother experience what I have endured for the past 7 yrs, until he can't take it. And wait for someone to say Hey Dad is unbearable and needs professional help. To all who experience the demon we create in our parents. keep strong you are not alone. Thank you for the advice and I respectfully agree. But , for now I will have to wait for the family to come together as an intervention.
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gccdaughter. Um. I just want to say one thing, because there are little phrases and passages in your posts that make me think you're not quite clear enough about this.

YOU ARE IN NO WAY TO BLAME FOR YOUR FATHER'S ATROCIOUS BEHAVIOUR.

I hope the family does wake up to reality and come to your aid very soon. God bless you x
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Thank you countrymouse.! ! I know I am not to blame, but I am the one that feeds into the negativity that escalates the situation.. I've never been in an abusive relationship, but I feel like this is reflective of what one is. I too, hope my siblings will realize this fate of my father.
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GC, sounds like no matter what you do, react,don't react, he goes left... so NO, YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE for his behavior!!!!!! And yes, you are in an abusive relationship.... when someone is treated this way and they think it's their fault.... IT'S ABUSE..... You are not abandoning them, you are saving your son and yourself....... so get that family intervention going ASAP.... your son does not deserve to have to have it explained to him it wasn't his fault either....
Sending prayers for a great and speedy outcome for you and your son....You have our support to not be abused, for any reason, by anyone..
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Daughter send them back to Ohio on the first bus, plane, train or their car at the earliest possible moment. it sounds as though you did not offer them the option of staying in the first place.
You are in an abusive relationship you don't need to be married to someone for that to be the case. As CM says you are not causing your fathers disfunction. From what you say I don't feel that his behaviour is due to dementia, I see him as mentally ill and urgently needing treatment for that. I have seen others diagnosed with bipolar behave in much the same way and there is absolutely nothing you can do to change the behaviour.
I appreciate that you have just had a proceedure and were still feeling the effects of that but what happened had nothing to do with it. You were quite right to get out of the car and it is no surprise he left you alone. Nor is it a surprise you found him packing when you got home. he would not have come back for you. you are adults and could have called a cab would be his reasoning. It was all about him and the way he was feeling at the time which was totally unloved, unappreciated and angry that he had had to spend the better part of the day sitting in a hospital waiting room while you got all the attention. With the mentally ill they are always #1. their pain is always the most intense, when you are getting the flu they head for bed first if you are stupid enough to mention you don't feel well and expect to be waited on even if your temp is 104 and they just sneezed a couple of times. They way he was feeling at that moment he had to run away, all he wanted to do way be alone and find some peace. i don't know what he would have done, maybe gone back to Ohio or to a motel for a couple of days while he licked his wounds. He really can't help it it is part of the disease, he feels just as terrible on the inside as he makes you feel. Now that is not an excuse for bad behaviour nor should you tolerate it. but once you know how whatever is wrong with him 'works' you have to keep one step ahead like you have to with a hyperactive child. Anticipate what their next action will be and take steps to head it off at the pass. Confrontation never works. On the other side of the coin he would be totally devastated if anything happened to any of his family and have a very hard time dealing with that. he does not sound like a narcisistic man every if he has always been unpleasanr to those nearest and dearest. I am also going to guess when strangers are around he is the most pleasant person you could wish to meet. Your mother has always been the doormat so off course she sees anything you do to avoid his bad behaviour as confrontation. This is not a situation you are equiped to deal with at all unless you happen to be a psychiatrist in your spare time. I hope I have not upset you but I have to write it as I see it. Blessings
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Ladeem I guess we both have the same thoughts on abusive relationships
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I was raised by a sadistic man who flunked the psych evaluation to be a prison guard...instead he got to practice on me the stepchild...they did have 2 children together but they were his...I am 65 years old now and have 2 kids and 5 grandkids from 7 to 22...I still have emotional scars and hang ups from some of the things my step dad did and said...Get your father away from your son! Verbal intimidation is as bad as physical...If your mom wants to stay with him in assisted living that is up to her but your first responsibility is to protect your child.
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