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No reverse psychology with dad. He might like it, and it would backfire on me. I think I did do it once, and he totally agreed with me. With it being rainy season, my sinus/allergy is acting up. I ordered some nasal rinse packets. I can't find any here. And I don't want to make my own mix - since I've never done it before. I ordered the packets for pediatrics. What can wrong, right? It's child-strength potions and not adult so.....

I just heard from sis in the states. As I mentioned before, my family tend to sense the spirits. Oldest sis sees and talks to them. 2nd oldest sis - gets visited by recently deceased relatives. Oldest bro has something but I don't know what. I sense them. Fave sis gets 'visited' by them.

I just heard from older sis that baby sister gets dreams. She doesn't remember her dreams. But if she does remember her dream, then it means something. She once dreamed her co-worker's mother sitting at their work. Her coworker's mom died. She once dreamed of an acquaintance committing suicide. She warned the acquaintance's boyfriend but no one took it seriously since that person was an upbeat person. That person threw herself off the building and died.

Baby sister said that she's been dreaming of mom for several nights in a row. Mom keeps appearing at her work. In her dreams, Sis would look in the mirror and see mom behind her. Mom is just staring at her. The first time she dreamed this, it terrified her. But, when she kept getting the same dream, she finally figured out that mom is trying to tell her something. When she told this dream to older sis, older sis remembered me telling her that baby bro has lost so much weight. So baby sis figured mom was telling her to help baby bro. This was last week.

Yesterday, older sis got a text message that baby bro is going to have an exploratory on his erratic heart (beats erratically - too fast, then too slow). He wasn't going to tell anyone about it. Both sisters lectured him. They will fly to VA to be there for his exploratory appointment.

Oldest sis made a snide remark that I always text them when there's a medical emergency with the parents. She said that a phone call is better. Ha! I will still text them for any medical emergencies. (Yes, I text them all that mom was dying and that she wouldn't last 2 weeks.)
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Book I can not come up with anywhere near your sense of the spirits but recently had an interesting experience. A good friend who is a realtor wanted me to look at a house she had just listed. She remarked that the photos she had put in the listing of the dining room was full of orbs and she wondered if they were the spirits of the three little kids who burned to death in the house next door.We wondered what we could do as she needed to take another picture and hoped without orbs. Some people say sage frees the spirits of the deceased so I said i had some Russian sage in my garden and did not know if it was the right kind but it smelled right so i took some along. The house was built in 1870 and was in far too bad shape to take on. We did not sense anything in any of the rooms but put the sage round the room with the orbs and wished the children and anyone else who was around a safe journey. When my friend went back to take her picture it came out without orbs. Thoughts?
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Veronica, what you did is what the Long Island Medium (TV reality show) does. She burns the sage and said something while burning the sage while roaming the home. My fave niece babysat her grandpa today. She was telling me that she's been having the same nightmare 2 nights in a row. In her dream, in their livingroom at night there is a girl in the window looking at my niece and calling out to her, "help! help!" My niece is pregnant. She's terrified of going to sleep.

When she told me this, I asked her when she was dreaming, which room was she in? She said the new addition built by her stepdad. I told her that she needs to have the room blessed. But I remembered your post Veronica, so I also said that she can try burning sage. She will most likely do the blessing option by the Catholic priest.
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OVERWHELMED! Going to home show to look at windows, kitchen and bath remodels, etc...... This is something i used to enjoy but by myself is hard, and a have to, for education. These are the times when it would be very nice to have help with the renovation from extensive fire, smoke and water damage. I am exhausted! So much to think about! Then back to Mom at 4.
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Been a busy week. Had a follow up eye doc appt Wednesday where he said my vision increased to 20/30 in my surgically fixed eye.
Must have overdone the bending over yesterday with weeding and planting fall plants for customers as my eye has been a bit sore so will have to watch the amount of bending over ( puts pressure on the eye). Right eye gets repaired Wednesday. Good news is that next month we should finally be able to connect to decent internet service! Time warner did not think we had service past our house despite my insistence that we did. Have to get the wiring bored under road and then another 150 ft or so to the house but will be nice when finally happens. Good day with dad shopped local farmers market, Costco, a simple lunch and a antique tractor show. He has been doing well which is always good.
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So my Dad had a slight heart attack today. Woke up with pain in his upper back so I put salon pas pads on it where he said it was hurting. He was moaning with pain and was breathing heavy. Called Hospice and they said they will call in nitro glyciryne for him. Gave him some and he felt better but his BP was so high that I was worried. Nurse came here and said he had small heart attack and that his extremities were blue and cold. I noticed that too. Had to do the nitro once & BP came down but within 2 hours BP was back up. GAve him the roxonol (liquid morphine) and his breathing calmed some. Gave him a few more doses of nitro but he still looks bad. He didn't nap at all today. Nurse told him what was going on and he understood though I think he is a bit scared & don't blame him. Let him know I love him and that it is okay to be fearful but let him know this is a joyous time too. So I am staying awake as long as I can tonite just to make sure he stays with us. I would be so upset if I was asleep & he passed. I would feel like I failed though it is out of my hands. Anyhow, I will let you know how things go. Hoping to see sister when she gets here Wednesday and maybe other sister will come but if he's gone, I kinda feel whats the point as they have seen him maybe 3 times in the past 30 years. Whatever...not my issue. Praying all goes easy & peaceful and he smiles in the end.
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I'm praying for you both right now DH.Good luck and God bless.
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DH, I too hope and pray that your father would find it easy and peaceful towards the end. I'm not Catholic. So, I didn't know that when my mom was dying, we could have had a priest come over during her last week here to do a .... rites? I'm sorry. I'm not familiar. But older sis felt soooo bad that they didn't call the priest to do the 'last rites' with her. From what I gather, this is very important to the Catholics. We were all so caught up with mom, that they forgot. If your father is a Catholic, maybe having the priest come visit will help ease him? {{HUGS}}
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Well, I feel frustrated, disppointed, confused, hopeless and defeated. I am 52 years old and I feel like I am being treated like an 8 year old child that is incapable of accomplishing anything meaningful in a day. I don't understand why my mother is so angry, hurtful and blaming. I feel that I am trying so hard and still failing almost every day.
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Hi Joe, Welcome to AC (Agingcare). I think it will help you a lot to hop around this site. You will find that there's a lot of people who are going through exactly what you're going through. I had written a long post to you but decided maybe it's best not to assume that all parents are like mine. So, I deleted it. All I can say, based on my experience, my dad would say I'm a Bad Daughter in order to 'control' me, to do what he wants. He used it one time too many, that I no longer cry over it. {shrug} Fortunately for me, I have a temper. I'm able to hold my own against him and his terrible words. If he had his way, I would be home 24/7 catering to his every whims. You can't win loyalty if you're abusing the person taking care of you. That's all I'm going to say. Well.. you can draw more flies with honey than with vinegar. When you feel like venting, please feel free to come back and do so. But, yes, I recommend that you hop around. But make sure to have a thick skin. Sometimes, people tend to be ... aggressive here.

P.S... maybe your guts Is telling you that you're trying too hard? That maybe only a Perfect person can meet your mother's demanding expectations?
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Thanks, I'll take your advise and any more I can find here.

P.S....a perfect person would never go about doing things the way she does so I doubt she would be satisfied with that person either. Probably holds true for your dad as well.
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To tell the truth I would have to say it seems like a no win situation. My mother demands that I follow her instructions even when I know it will not produce the results she desires. If I do it my way I am labeled defiant and unacceptable. If I offer my opinion I am labeled argumentative and unacceptable. If I do it her way I am blamed for the failure and wasting resources. If I leave her to herself she will get nothing accomplished and return to her depression.

I tell myself repeatedly everyday, almost like a mantra that I recite in my mind
"I am a robot, an automatron. I do not make choices or decisions of my own. I do not speak unless spoken to. I do not have an opinion or advice to offer. I do not act without instruction. I must be silent and idle when waiting for a directive. When given a task I must perform it immediately and exactly as instructed. Most importantly I must accept blame. I must not attempt to defend myself."

Unfortunately I am a human and I do not seem to have the ability to follow my own best advice. No matter how hard I try to be a machine my brain overrides that desire and inserts my personality. The result is a confrontation that ends badly. If I win the battles I loose the war. She has decided that no man will ever dominate her again. It has become obvious that she will eliminate from her life anyone that tries to influence her decisions. She seemed to be suffering alone so I came to help her out of the situation. She doesn't seem to understand that if she continues doing what she has been doing these past few years she will continue to get what she has been getting. She admits that she has been depressed by what seems like insurmountable obstacles in her life but she refuses to change her path. I feel very sad for her.
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Joe, who else would volunteer to be your mother's personal assistant? Remind yourself that she'll have to get what she's given because nobody else is rushing to step up. And don't let this atmosphere you're living in make you doubt your own judgement. QED, it's better than hers!

Don't forget, you do also have the option of stepping back, or even stepping down altogether. Knowing that's there can help you breathe more easily.

Would you like to say more about what your situation is?
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I had written you a long post just before you just posted now, then I deleted it. Ah heck, your words were like echos of mine - except switched. From the beginning, my father told me that this house/land will be going to my 2 brothers in the states. Oldest bro of next door - already got his land from dad. The boys will get this one when he dies. Father told me that if I wanted land, I will have to marry a man with land. We had some rough clashings because he expected me to be the dutiful female and do what females are suppose to do- clean house, cook, laundry, etc... It's our job. Doesn't matter if I have a full time job.

When mom was alive, he wouldn't listen to me. I'm a female. I know nothing. I should keep my mouth shut. I kept trying to get him to take mom to the clinic/ER over and over throughout the years. I realized early on that he would never listen to me seriously since I'm a dumb female. So, I've learned with bitterness that I had to call my 16 year old nephew to come visit us, happen to look at Grandma and then tell grandpa that grandma looks like bad and he needs to call 911. It never fails. My dad would listen to this 16 year old than to listen to his assistant caregiver 30-something daughter. Just because a Male told him, he will listen. He's still like this, you know. My nephews know and accept their roles when it comes to grandpa. The same now with the home care nurse. He understands when I call him in frustration. He would drop by and talk with my dad. And darn it! My dad listens to him! So... as you can see, our parents are beginning to seem quite similar. Eeww!!!

Except we both react to them differently. You sound just like my oldest sis. Maybe that's why I have the spiraling upward cholesterol and she doesn't. She goes with the flow while I fight/resist dad every step of the way. I am quite vocal in NOT taking any blame that I don't deserve. I've been punished for that all my life for things that my siblings got in trouble for - and I had to be punished along with them. So, I have been rebelling since I reached the age 18. I cannot and will not allow him to do to me what they did to me as a child who had to obey them. I know, I know, I'm suppose to let his words slide off but... that's pretty hard for me when I did that all my life as a child. Now, I rebel, rebel, rebel. I cannot be like my sister or like you.

The reason I recommended that you hop around is this. When I first found this site, I was filled with anger, hatred, despair, bitterness. I hopped all over the place, read everything - even subjects that had nothing to do with my situation. I tell you this much, by hopping and reading every subject that I can, I learned a LOT of what to do and what not to do. I learned that others got it worse than me. I learned how I can better handle dad. I learned especially the importance to Document, Document, Document in case my dad reaches that dementia stage of accusing me of stealing from him. I learned that it's OKAY to fight for Me. This took months of reading on this site. I vented, vented and vented until I no longer hated my 7 siblings, the parents, my life and the world. Maybe if you hop around, you can decide what can work and would not work with you and your mother's situation. But at least you have ideas, right?
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DH he may very well pass on when alone most people do-it is almost like they wait until they are alone but do not feel bad if that happens-my heart goes out to you.
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Thank you all for your comments & reassuring words. I slept for about 3 & half hours last night and heard Dad up, moaning with the pain. He said "give me some pills, blue, red, green whatever they are, I need them". Dad is still having severe upper back pain and I think it may be due to his one lung not having any air in it at all. Other lung is crackly. He got up to pee but was sitting on toilet and "forgot" that he was done! He was moaning due to back pain. So helped him back to bed & he was so shaky from his pain. Gave him a shot of liquid morphine and checked BP & it was 177/101 so another nitro pill and it went down to 105/62. He is breathing heavier now and hands & feet are still cold & pale. I did hear some congestion in his throat and noticed he was breathing with lips pursed...all the signs are there. Hospice said to only give him morphine, liquid morphine, nitro and his 02. He still takes 02 off & his levels drop rapidly within 10 minutes. Not sure if he will hold on til sister arrives Wednesday and I would prefer it be just him and I (selfish me) as I have been the only one taking care of him this past yr & half. She was upset when I told her about attack yesterday that he was not in hospital. Explained no hospital with Hospice & the hospital couldn't do anything more than what I am doing. Our Hospice team is a great support system! I do wish there was more I could do for his back pain but I believe it is part of the disease and could be his heart & lungs trying to work but they are just so damaged.
BOOK: Thank you for your Hugs...We are Catholic and Dad has been talking to the Chaplin once a month. I could take him or leave him as being raisaed with the Bible I know what it's all about but he sometimes gives me the impression that he recently (within 20 yrs) found "Christianity". Sometimes annoys me as he talks like we've never heard of the bible! His last visit here he went on about going to Heaven and blah blah blah about it. But if it helps Dad, fine. Don't want to be judgmental towards the guy but at my age to not know about what he calls "Glory of God" would be ignorant. Just saying.
Anyhow, just keeping Dad comfortable and pain free as best I can. He comes & goes with his talking, a lot of staring out into space. I know he worries what will happen to me when he's gone and I let him know I'll be fine, as he has mentioned this before. He's such a controlling man that I think he is getting bummed that he cannot control this outcome. We'll see. Hospice on speed dial and if all goes well, another visit from nurse tomorrow & bath aide. Taking it one hour at a time now.......

Lastly, funny story....Dad decided to trim eyebrows Friday and didn't have glasses on and damn near shaved his entire right eyebrow off! Going to trim up the left for him but he does look silly with one 1/2 inch brow and the other 3 inches and bushy!! So there is humor is all this stressful caregiving!! :)
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Oh Book, your Dad sounds like my Dad...women are to be seen & not heard, they cook, clean & cater to every whim of the man. I call BS! If anything needed to be done around here, he would say call someone (most likely a man) to do that for you. How difficult is it to hang a screen door? Simple & I managed all the while he "suggesting" how to do it. I also have anger issues with him from childhood and from how poorly he took care of Mom before she passed. What's done is done but it still hurts and molds our personality somehow.
I'm going to be saddened when Dad goes, but relieved that he is no longer in pain and I can be a normal human instead of a female that knows nothing .....LOL!
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"Would you like to say more about what your situation is?"

This is my first step online. I landed here because this thread seemed to be the open path when I clicked a google link. I have been considering contacting the providers maybe hospital or county i'm not sure exactly what is best. Actually I almost believe that only a dedicated professional therapist has a chance of resolving the issues. We are both exibiting childish and controlling behaviour. Right now I think we are both staying in our rooms to assert the feeling that we are hurt and suffering because of the other. I don't drink often but when I do I prefer the company of strangers. I am seriously considering going that direction right now. In the months I have been here she has rarely closed her bedroom door. She has a small dog named Tiny that gives her comfort and requires her to perform physical tasks. I like Tiny even with her seriously annoying personality defects. Moms door has been closed most of the time since yesteday morning. I think we both felt like we were going to have a good day together but suddenly it all changed in a few moments where we both lost control of our emotions. Based on our conversation today it seems that she has decided to make certain that it is abundantly clear that I have wasted my time upgrading her wireless networking in the home. She is insisting that I forced a data plan on to her. I provided it to her years ago when she sat in a desert campground just outside of Los Angeles for 2 days with what she thought was with what she thought was the flu. When she showed up late for her expected holiday season arrival time it was obvious she needed medical attention. At first the doctors thought she had a burst appenix but it turned out to a rupture in her intestinal tract caused buy three crude C-sections performed on her in 1960s. I have always down played, actualy decieved her on the cost. last spring when she was sitting in her RV using facebook on her iPhone and watching TV on her iPad she said she valued the service and wanted to assume the full expense. She has pleanty of money. Today is demanding that I drop her from my plan. She lives in te redwood forrest. I just completed a difficult task of configuring a $250 device that provides her cell coverage in her home. She has 3 phone numbers because land lines were required at both of her homes. She has 2 homes and a new RV. All different numbers. I have just solved the cell coverage issue so she can cancel the 2 land lines if she chooses to save money. I even installed a battery back up in the event of a power failure. Yes, I know it turned into a lot more than originally anticipated but it is completed as now. She is refusing to use her iPhone as of today based on some technical issues we suffered through during the summer. My Android worked great her iPhone was a challenge. It is new technology so it had bugs but they just got fixed. I feel like the preperations for the meal killed her appitite. Like she saw the cow being sluaghtered so now she won't eat it. I'm not excited about hopping around this forum looking for the relationship guru. I am about to spend my time shopping plane ticket back to Orange County where my my brother runs his record company. I like being the Captain that always pilots his four boats.
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On second thought, I think I'll take a shower, go to the local watering hole for a cocktail and try to taste a female this evening. I don't even want to read that long post I just made why would anyone else?
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Huh?
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I had a good day with Mom today. Even though yesterday she had blood in her urine, was terrified and called upon a new friend to take her to a new hospital (rather than calling me), she was fine today. I had to show her how to use a new email account and she wasn't sarcastic or weird today. I worked very hard at keeping my patience and tone of voice nice. We ate out and then went to her favorite store: Savers. She was in good spirits and had a nice time.
Dr. Hyde has no idea of Dr. Jekyll: is that how the story goes?
Whatever, glad today was not another thing I had to use a week to get over!
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lololol.... OH crud... I just read this.

Jessie I second that HUH?
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I feel so normal after reading that :)
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Yeah, I suppose it was a rude and inappropriate comment. I was referring to kissing a stranger. I am a long ways from home and missing companionship. My mother had chemo a year or so back. Besides her already dimished mental capacity she smokes pot morning till night everyday. She is old and alone after four divorces. She lost her mother last year who was a horder that packed an oceanfront home to the roof timbers with stuff she collected. Much of it is cool vintage stuff from thrift stores and yard sales. My mother inherited the home so now she has 3 homes and five vehicles including an RV. We have been trying to sort out everything but it has not been easy. Old people do weird things sometimes. My grandmother hid precious things with undesirable stuff so it is hard to just throw everything out. Obviosly I am clueless about how to help her. She can't keep track of everything. Including the phone at the beach house she has 4 numbers. She has more bank accounts and bills than she can keep track of already before adding grandmothers estate. She had kinda shut down a few months back feeling overwhelmed and depressed. I thought I could help her but it is not working out. She was crying the other day saying she wished she had a daughter and not 3 boys. I've been packing her stuff around my whole life since I was a child and it is getting worse as the years pass. I hope the new generation is learning from the one leaving now. Too much stuff can be a big burden. You don't need to keep everything. Why should I care if nobody can figure out which number to call mom at. She's learning facebook now so I should probably quit pushing the cell phone on her I should probably stay out of this forum too. A plane ticket out of here is going to do more for me than a bar tab and the lips of a stranger so thanks for the Huh?
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Had my doctor's visit today. For my hearing problem with the exaggerated sounds in my head, doc looked into my ears and said it looks normal. Therefore, he RX ... Motrin. I'm to take it 3 times a day for a few days.

My cholest went up. He changed the Lipitor to Pravastatin Sod. Sounds scary. On the RX label it states: Report muscle/joint pain or fever.

A fellow poster sent me something on cholesterol pills. I'm going to dig up that email and read it. Like I tell myself that I'm going to use the treadmill in the bedroom... And I don't. Procrastinating.

I also had the flu shot. My arm is sore. And I feel soooo tired. I wasn't going to take it. But the doc said that with me working and taking care of my bedridden father, that I need to take the flu shot. Because of my father's weakened stage/age. So. I took the flu shot. He also kept reminding me that I need to contact dad's doctor or the gov't agency to give him the shot. Don't wait.
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DH, how's it going?
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Joe, big hug to you.

I love your mum. I think I know exactly how she feels. Doesn't mean I don't sympathise with you too!

I've got two close friends who have only boys - one has three, the other two. My ex SO's SIL (gosh life gets complicated!) also, she's got three boys. And my SIL, come to think of it: there she is living her life with a husband and two sons who love her very much but…

Anyway. I love my son very dearly. I am more grateful than I can say that I also have two daughters. And it's NOT because I expect them to watch over me in my old age.

Anyway, never mind that.

There are some things you should never do with somebody you can't risk falling out with. Teach her to drive. Partner her at bridge. Offer constructive criticism. And, er, fix her IT (not unless your day job is at the Genius bar, anyway)…

If I knew how to solve the electronics proliferation problem I would pass it on. Alas my solution is going to involve a trip to the City dump just as soon as I've got the cash to buy ONE phone and ONE computer with ONE printer.

If you know of one, then seriously the best thing you can do is call out a user-friendly engineer, tell him what your mother needs from her comms kit, and leave them to it. Ideally leave town, don't come back 'til it's over.

The bank accounts are worse - my mother did this. A credit card for every one of the myriad charities she approved of, made even livelier by her sending them back with a stern letter of disgust whenever they did something she didn't approve of. I have a confession: when my überefficient sister registered her Enduring Power of Attorney, rolled up her sleeves and asked for mother's documents I had them all ready for her. Boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes… I did wait 'til she'd loaded up her car and left before I grinned and went tee-hee-hee.

Um, look. You're on a bit of a hiding to nothing. If it's any consolation, soon enough the day will come when those treasured hordes are a matter of absolute indifference to her and you're left scratching your head and wondering what on earth all that effort was for. We had a four drawer full size office filing cabinet (not the only, but the biggest). It was hideous, insanely heavy and stuffed beyond opening with those vicious and useless suspension files. Decades of pleading would not part mother from it. 18 months ago, we politely ask her if we can just move it to decorate a room and she waves it away. Like it's nothing. Well f*** me! Wish we'd just "disappeared" it years ago, now.

This stuff is painful. I'm not underestimating how painful.

What would I want from my boy if I'd got to where your mother is (probably will, bar the pot. Life is unfair). I would want him to…. Be okay. Be happy. What would I want him to do FOR me? Phew. Possibly get things done, but not do them himself. I think that might be the trick. If he turned up with a nice bottle of Burgundy, and happened to have called an electrician to come and get the lights fixed, then we could have a lovely chat over a glass of wine and then lo and behold the light would be working.

Don't go! We're not not interested - it's just that things move fast and it can be hard to keep up.
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Hi I am new to this forum really enjoyed reading the posts...I am 60 and taking care of my mother who has deminta full time alone for the last year and loosing my mind. She does go to daycare twice a week which help but not enough...I want my life back and feel so guilty...


Tick Tock Tick Tock...
The bus comes early this week
Daycare for Mom a day off for me
Eight hours until the bus returns
Tick Tock a long time you think
Shopping, errands a quick visit with a friend
Oh no it's one o'clock not long now
Oh no it's two o'clock found a friend
Tick Tock tell me everything quickly make me smile
Tick tock only a heart beat 2:15
He will be here soon I can feel him close
Tick tock another heart beat 2:30
He is here standing quietly behind me
Tick Tock Tick Tock
Ever so slowly he places those weights how much a thousand two thousand
He adjusts the balance a little nuge perfect
Always gentle don't damage the merchandise don't damage the caregiver
Tick tock another heart beat 2:45
Quick smile good bye all have to run the bus is coming
Tick Tock Tick Tock
He is waiting in the car already poised in the backseat
In the driveway 2:55
He is so meticulous as he he tightens the straps securing the weights
Always gentle don't damage the merchandise don't damage the caregiver
My knees start to buckle as my feet touch the ground
It's ok I say it's ok I love her so
Tick Tock until next week
Tick Tock Tick Tock
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8:30pm. I'm getting body aches on my left arm, left finger joints, lethargic. Right upper arm is still sore from the shot despite massaging it and moving it around. Please don't get the flu because I took off this week from work. I don't want to spend it being sick indoors. I will pay my bills, change his pampers and do an early night tonight. Too bad no OJ in the fridge.

FYI, my dad's on Cipro. The pharmacist wanted to talk to me before they released the meds. The home care nurse informed her that dad takes herbal supplements. She explained to me the importance of NOT taking these supplements while he's on the Cipro for the next 7days. It's okay for him to take the multivitamin but it must be 2 hours after the Cipro or 6 hours before the Cipro.

This is only day 1. And it's a major battlefield trying to explain why he cannot take his multitude of herbal supplements. I can tell that sis gave in. I explained it to her several times but it's useless. She will do whatever dad wants. Period. So, tonight, I explained in more detail WHY the pharmacist wanted to talk to me. She said that the Cipro can have certain effects to the herbals by increasing their strength. I need to try to get sis to understand the danger of giving dad the herbals because it can multiply it's dosage in dad's body. Later. And good night!
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thanks to you Book for reminding me I need to get my flu shot!
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