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Entering week 4 with the fractured arm...feeling a lot less pain...first week was killer since they can't cast it because the break is to close to the shoulder...still hanging in a sling that ties around my waist. Tried to talk to hubby about going to daughters house for Thanksgiving and bringing me a plate home...I still can't use the bathroom on my own without the Swash seat he installed for me here...instead we are now the owners of an infer red oil less turkey fryer (we already had a regular turkey fryer) he plans on cooking a Thanksgiving feast for the 2q of us...all I can do is watch...he's turning into a pretty good cook...
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Oh crap.. my hubs looked at that fryer today at home depot.. let me know how it works...LOL
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Get a FRESH turkey instead of a frozen one, big difference. Do NOT stuff it, it stays moister. Put it in an open roasting pan, into a COLD oven. When you turn the oven on, the intense pre-heating will sear the bird and seal in the juices. This is the same principle as the infra red unit- sudden intense heat. From a COLD start, I set the oven at 325F (165C) and those coils glow red hot for quite a while. If you have convection, a 20 lb bird will be done in 3.5 HRS. Been there. Done that.
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Pam... I think I'm coming to your house for Thanksigiving...
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For Thanksgiving I have my local grocery store do all my cooking.... the turkey comes already cooked, and all I need to do is heat it for 2 hours in the oven.... then all the side dishes are ready-made items, heat and serve. I hate hate hate cooking, so when the grocery store started offering this service years ago, I jumped on it :)
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How nice to be asked how I, ME am doing. The focus is always on the one being cared for, by everyone else. Rightfully so of course, but after years and years of taking care of two people..... I take care of my husband, who has multiple medical issues and cancer too from Vietnam (he's a Vietnam Vet and contacted cancer from being exposed to Agent Orange) plus some cognitive issues (not dementia yet) and also a daughter who had been seriously hurt on the job, fell through the cracks of the SYSTEM and couldn't be declared disabled unless we hire a lawyer, so I take care of her too. She had head injuries so has alot of cognitive issues. Both function, but still need someone to take care of them and it's very wearing. Also have whiny needy cats (my daughter's) and a puppy so that all adds to the stress I already feel from taking care of them. Today they both went to the dentist and I'm all alone (YAY) and feel guilty because I'm not tackling the mounds of work that's piling up. Since both of them are either sick or hurt at one time or another, we don't get much done. I feel guilty resenting both of them (they think alike so they usually gang up on me) and selfish for wishing I could have someone care about ME and take care of me for just one day. I'm so burned out. We have no support system. Other family doesn't 'get it' and feel I can do it just fine. Man, I could go on and on---like a dam has opened. Tried looking for a local support group for caretakers and none in our area. Well, online works! Thanks for letting me vent. It actually felt good.to voice it and not see a judgmental face staring back at me.
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herbalizer77, you do have a lot on your plate. Yes, wouldn't it be nice if someone asked within the family how are we doing.

I think my Dad comes from a generation where the men didn't ask others *how are you doing?*. It was always the women being Florence Nightingale, and heaven forbid if Florence got under the weather. One could be on what feels like their death bed and someone will ask "when is dinner?" :P
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herbalizer77, I know how you feel. I just keep waiting for something to get better and praying. I take care of my Mother 93 and my husband 72. They both have dementia early stages. Mom is wheelchair bound and can't do anything but try to fold clothes. I appreciate that. My husband is very spoiled. It is very tiring, I am burned out. Just take one day at a time, sending love and prayers to all caregivers
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I, like freqflyer use the grocery store system. Everything is done - all I do is heat it and add a couple of items that are a family tradition. (simple family traditions). I laughed about the when is dinner? When my parents were living with me, I could have been lying in the floor, with multiple compound fractures and in a pool of blood and my dad would ask - Is dinner almost ready? Nothing keeps my dad from his food. Last night was really stressful. I got my mom to bed and after getting home - my dad called at 12:00 to tell me that my mom had gotten up, dressed because she thought it was morning. He wanted me to come back and help her get back to bed. I told him to call the front desk and see if someone there could help her. They did. At 4:00 he called again to say
that she got back up and dressed again because she thought it was morning.
He wanted me to come back and help her back to bed. This time I suggested that she rest on the couch and he put some blankets on her. Apparently that worked - she went to sleep on the couch and I was up the rest of the night. Taking care of one person is challenging - taking care of two is like Mission Impossible. The exhaustion and isolation is overwhelming. One day at time is all one can reasonably do.
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The past couple of days I have felt a heavy feeling of depression slowly over taking me. I am feeling overwhelmed and just an overall feeling of dread. Sometimes it is hard for me to just catch my breath and I feel like I am suffocating. I was sitting at a light today coming home from work and the tears just started flowing. I just did not want to come home knowing that I would be stuck at the house the rest of the day. I just feel like I have no life. I know I have a right to feel this way, but still feel guilty because I just do not want to take care of my mother anymore.
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Stopped n quickly to see Dad and made sure his room was tidy as my cousin and her hubby visited dad. She said they stayed about 90 minutes and he talked about sawing down a dead tree she thought he might be thinking about when he owned a house. she asked him how often he sees his daughters and he said he never sees them probably once he is dead they will want the "house". Made me sad since I just saw him about 3 hours before:(
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burnedout13, good example *Mission Impossible* :)
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Goldengirl, pretty much all of us have been there... part of me wonders if we stopped crying in the car, in the shower, or in our room or own home, and what if we actually cried those same tears in front of our parent, would they finally understand? I know I am tried of hiding my frustrations.
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Goldengirl and freqflyer, I read what you both wrote today. What you are feeling is what so many of us are feeling. The stress can be so hard on us. ff, I liked what you said in another thread about being done with it. I know that it is time for you, since you have so much recovery work to do with the panic. I am so glad that you are stepping back. Your parents have money for cabs and anything they need.

Goldengirl, I can tell that you are done, too. I was wondering what other options were there for you. You're in the same place many of us are, needing to get some joy back in your life. I wish I could figure out a good way to do it. Driving a new car to a new uncluttered house of my own might do it for me. :) What a sweet thought that is.
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Ativam works for me.. 1/2 a pill and I am less stressed! Doesn't solve the problem.. but still
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I know how you feel, Goldengirl1. Today when I was home alone, before I found this site, I was crying and feeling depressed too. I don't want to take care of my husband or daughter either anymore, or her 12 cats and the puppy. The cats were all rescue cats and we had to really put our foot down so she wouldn't rescue any more! I feel overwhelmed and suffocating sensations too. I didn't know how to put it into words but you described it to a "T". Caregivers have no life. I feel as if I'm in prison and sentenced to life. If there was a support system maybe I wouldn't feel so overwhelmed along with guilt for feeling like this, or resentment for having no life. I had to give up a dream job that I wanted all my life only to finally have/do it for 5 short years til I had to give it up to take care of my husband. I try not to feel resentment that my life is now over and all I am to my husband is his caregiver--I'm not his wife. We never had the best marriage to begin with as he is very emotionally distant and wants no type of companionship from me at all. He only wants a housekeeper and caregiver. He admits he's 'wrong', told his counselor so one of his 'goals' is to spend companion time with me and do things together. That makes me feel very demeaned and humiliated. After 41 years of marriage, I know he never will. I feel for you and know exactly how you feel. I think we are both suffering from burnout
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You do feel invisible as a caregiver -if possible try to find a support group to join even if it is not run well you will find like people there you can become friends with and support each other. Our Senior Center is going to start up another one in which I and another former caregiver attend-we both have so much unasked for experience to share.
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I wish there were support groups in my area that are close by..... then I realized those group are probably hard to set up because the Caregivers don't have time to attend :(
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Yes, same problem I have as well--finding a local support group. I even tried other areas close by and nada, zip. This site in one day has shown more help and support than in all the years I tried to get help and emotional support from family and other places. So glad I found this site!
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One really good thing about this site is that you feel free to express yourself without feeling someone is in the group judging you. Even if they don't speak up that look of disapproval can bore into you. When someone write something mean the whole group quickly points out what they have done. Naturally as in any group you find people you feel closer to and follow more closely. Others you sigh when you see their name and then there are the ocassional "Trolls" who give themselves away pretty quickly because like all liers they can't keep their stories straight. All in all I feel this is a very compassionate group and really reach out to help each other. You are very much welcome Herbalizer.
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This website has been a store house of knowledge where I found I could learn more from those with life experiences than reading a book on any of the subject matters. Plus, I found some ah ha moments which have directed me into the right direction.

As for the trolls, after a while I see the same writing and answering patterns, and knew I had stuck my foot into some quick sand. Some of those writers need to write for Lifetime Movies :)
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Thanks, Veronica91! :)
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I understand veterans who were exposed to Agent Orange in Vietnam can't get any financial assistance. My husband flew a helicopter behind a plane spraying that chemical. V.A, says he can't get financial assistance, but if he develops prostate cancer he can. He has prostate problems, but not cancer..yet...He gets a little V.A. assistance due to ringing of the ears caused by the noise of the helicopter he flew during those early years of Vietnam. How can I pursue this? marymember
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Goldengirl, I am sorry you are feeling so depressed but it is perfectly normal under the circumstances. My mother is 93 with severe dementia and we almost put her in a nursing home but my brother decided to try and care for her. I am concerned that it will be too much for him but I guess he must try. This illness is terrible and even the professionals have a difficult time dealing with it, so please don't feel guilty. It is not easy no matter what you do. It is so degrading for our loved ones and we the caretakers and just overwhelmed. I hope you will be feeling better real soon. This is the time of year many people suffer from depression and I am fighting it myself. Best wishes, Happy Thanksgiving and Prayers.

Sunny
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Check with your local hospitals for support groups also the Office of the Aging also some senior centers have adult day care for reasonable fees for a few hours each day and even have bus transportation .
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@Herbalizer - what was the short-lived career you had to give up?
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57twin, yes, it is sad, that you just saw your dad 3 hours ago, and he believes no one is visiting him. And will only be interested in his house when he’s dead. My dad is like that, too – about the house – and my brother wanting it when he dies.

Hi Herbalizer, Welcome to AC (AgingCare). You have a full house of caregiving recipients – your husband, daughter , puppy and needy cats. I do believe you have stretched yourself thin for everyone and no time-out for yourself. The real time-out…not doing the house chores while they’re away at the dentist. Don’t feel guilty if you use your free time Not doing housework. I know what you mean about no family support. It was just dad & I with caring for bedridden mom (bedridden over 13yrs). When he had a stroke (at age 84) and became bedridden, not one of my 7 siblings offered to help me care for Our TWO bedridden parents. Within a year of his stroke, I just couldn’t handle it anymore – and became seriously suicidal. I found this site about 3 days before my suicidal decision. This was the real deal. I had the when, how, and the exact date to implement my foolproof painless suicide. I came on here and asked for help. There were some very wonderful people who gave me such great advice, even when I didn’t want to accept it. I will be forever grateful to them and this site. Please don’t let the stress of caregiving get to you. It’s going to be sooo hard for you since you can’t find physical support groups or even a respite care. Asking family for help over and over - gets to the point that it just makes you more and more angry, bitter and resentful that you have to keep asking. I know what that’s like. I’m glad you found this site. It does help. A Lot.
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Burned, I can just see your dad calling you for every single event happening there. You must be grateful that they’re there and not with you at home. Can you imagine if they still at your home, getting up at all hours – thinking it’s daytime – and trying to tell them it’s night time. Very frustrating. I tell my dad to look outside the window. If it’s dark – it’s night time. If he sees light outside – it’s daytime. He looks outside the window, looks at me with a blank face. It’s just no longer registering to him – dark is night, light is day. Lately, he would be talking or singing in the middle of the night. Trying to get me up to feed him because it’s past lunchtime. And that’s just my dad. You would have had to deal with both parents. I have a feeling you’re going to hate the sound of a ringing phone.

Goldengirl, I hate it when I go through depression. For the past few weeks, I’ve been struggling with mine. I’ve spent the past couple of weeks crawled up in my books, reading all the time. Books make me laugh and takes me away from my life here. I know that feeling of not wanting to go home…to face the reality. Don’t feel bad about not wanting to take care for your mother anymore. It’s called the caregiver’s guilt. We always find something that makes us feel guilty. It’s so hard to ignore it. {{HUGS}}
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I met the new doctor today. She's very young. New. And has this habit of not listening to me. She has no patience to wait for me to finish talking. Several times, I've had to rudely interrupt her so that I can finish my thoughts. She kept asking several times when I'm seeing my previous doctor. I was confused. I finally told her that I like my current doctor, he's a good doctor, but I'm looking for a female doctor because I cannot be open to him. Back to the drawing board. Next week, I'm going to our insurance office and ask for a listing of doctors under their plan. I will need to try another clinic. The clinic I went to works like this. The primary doctors work from Monday-Fridays. Any visits in the weekends are considered Urgent Care. You go there, and then you need to do a follow up visit with your primary doctor. None of the primary doctors work in the weekend. So that means I have to take time off to go visit the clinic - that opens 7 days a week.

She got my history - very thorough person. Asked how many siblings I have, how many brothers, how many sisters, ask about my dad (his medical history), ask about my mom (when she died and her history), my medical history, etc... She was surprised that all these years of my headaches and I never ever saw a neurologist. I've had a catscan and an MRI for my headaches. She said that she prefers to send patients to a neurologist first before ordering those. And I never saw a neurologist? No....

I decided to concentrate on my nosebleed. Since my first nosebleed, it's been bleeding since then. Mostly when I blow my nose. Blood comes out instead of the normal stuff. Nice bright red blood. Lastnight, I did my usual gungho sneezing fit (that hurts my throat), and my nose got all stuffed up. So, I tried to Gently blow my nose because I couldn't breath. Out came this bright red thick bloody yuck. I stared at all that fresh bright red blood on the tissue.

She said that she wanted to check my ears. I said, "Oh, speaking of ears. My right ear sometimes the sound goes dull and I get this sharp inner pain. Inside the ear." She wants me to try a steroid nose spray and some pill antihistamine before referring me to the ENT.

I went to the pharmacy to pick up the nose spray. I asked the guy how do I use it since I've never used a nose spray before. So he called the pharmacist. She explained to me how to do it. She opened the box, told me that I need to pump it several times. I aimed the bottle straight up, and she said, "No, don't aim it to you or upwards - because it would spray into your face. Aim it away from you. Then pump it."

Then she showed how to close one side of the nostril with the opposite hand, lean a bit forward, stick the bottle up the nostril using the opposite side hand. She said that it's very important not to aim it straight up because it will shoot into the vessels - which would make it bleed. By using your opposite hand to insert it in, you're automatically angling the bottle away from the vessels. ... Ohhhhh. Smart!

When she was done, I thanked her very sincerely. She said that in all her years as a pharmacist, no one ever had asked her how to use the spray bottle...with so many questions. {{chuckling}} I'm her first. Don't know if I should be proud or feel insulted that I'm so dumb to have to ask How to do it. =/
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You're smart! Most people are too dumb to ask!
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