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Just a thought-who will be the caregivers for our children?
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Having bad day wife with alz was up at nite from3am-8 thinking she was working at a old hospital that she was born in kept asking for me but did not recognize me now it's noon and just got out of condo (middle of afternoon) someone brought her back(thought she sleeping so never had chain on (do now)had new earrings on said they were complimentary from fron desk(we do not have a front desk)never gone on bear this long before .is this just one more step in the journey
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Leakey hun yes is the short answer hun I am afraid it is. Stay strong and try hard to establish how much you CAN do for your wife. There is no disgrace and no shame to admit you need more help sweetheart
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Leaky, and if she continues to wander, for her safety, you need to make sure she is in a secure environment. This happened with a friend of mine, his wife was diagnosed at 55 years old. She is now 59, and in a secure environment. When she started wandering and my friend felt he could not keep her safe any longer, he knew it was time.
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I feel it Mallory. I had been caring for my (95-yr-old) mom for 5 yrs., and updating relatives about her condition(s). When she came home following a short hospitalization last March she was placed on hospice. I notified her local grandsons. She passed away 53 days later. Neither one could make the 45 minute drive to come and say good-bye. Now they're all about 'when is there going to be memorial?' Too late idiots. This isn't about when it's convenient for YOU. Your chance to say 'good-by' came and went.
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Leaky...how long since your mom was diagnosed? Was just wondering since my mom hasnt git this stage yet although i know everyone is different. Im so sorry you are going through this...i wish there was a way we could all help each other. I guess this site is it...listening and truly caring for what you are going through.
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Jude AH53 thank you for your sweat comments you have to be a special person wish you could visit
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Beth it's my wife not mother
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Sam, I dont understand how people live with themselves when they DO have the opportunity to say goodbye and dont care enough to take it. I wonder if the day will come when they may wish they had done things differently.
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Sam...Also, im so sorry about your mom. I know my day will come and i hate to have her go but this ALZ is so horrible, it will be a blessing for her. Sending you prayers for comfort.
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Leaky...yes i realize its your wife and im so sorry for you going through this. I just wondered how long after diagnosis she began the wandering. Again...you have my prayers for this terrible journey you are on. It is so heartbreaking.
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Beth 2 or 3 years mostly at but only for a hour or so
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My Mom started wandering about five years after diagnosis, she had symptoms for probably five years beforee. First in the grocery store, then any time she was agitated.
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Just for the record some people with dementia never wander some never rearaange it is very much a individual thing. Its a bit like a pick and mix - there are dozens of symptoms of the various types of dementia but your loved one may only have one or two but they may be serious whereas another person may have most of them but to a much milder degree. not that either is easy to cope with. For me the worst bit is the swing between 'appearing normal' and being totally off the wall but I know that isn't the same for everyone either.
Leaky you have me all wrong hunny. This old bat is definitely NOT sweet However I DO care. I feel that in life there are many roads and many houses. Some of us choose the steepest hill to the house that needs most work doing on it so that others may choose the easier route and the nicer house. Anyone caring or organising care and dealing with dementia issues is on the steep road and they deserve all the help I or anyone else can offer. In the end our route will be the glory for we will know we did our best - maybe not the very best ANYONE could have done but we did the very best WE could and that, Leaky, can NEVER be taken away from you.
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with pitting edema, the swelling continues even though she is on lasik.... now the back of her legs have blotches on them like blood spots. She is probaly about 2 weeks til ? away from dying. Anyone know anything about what the spots could be with congestive heart failure edema?
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Sam, I am humbled you've found the time to write a supportive comment, thank you, in don't even know you, and you've offered me a shred of hope, much more than my 2 sisters & 2 brothers. Jude every time you write the word "hun" to other people I thought it was kind of cute but now when I read you used it for me, it just felt so Special. I actually woke up this morning with chest pains and dizzy, so my husband drove me in to ER. The same nurse & Dr who had helped me with my mom, was now helping me, with me. It was very scary but not an heart attack l, just panic attack, and they have officially told me to cut back on visits to mom, and get more sleep and also more exercise. It is so very unhealthy to be sitting! No good for our seniors--and no good for the caregivers either! I am so very grateful for this website. You are much more family to me, than I ever realized....Thank you all.
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gawoman, sorry, I'm not familiar with that.

Leakey, mom started walking a lot in the late afternoon till night. Nights were the worst. She would wander out and we would spend hours looking for her in the dark. Dad finally installed several locks on all the doors - the one between the livingroom/kitchen and all the exit doors. When she couldn't get out, she became violent. Banging on the door demanding to be let out. When she sees us, she comes after us when we refuse to let her out. It was a very stressful time since dad didn't want to give her meds for her aggressiveness.

Mallory, you have now been officially told to cut back. I hope you take advantage of it. That is the one thing that I don't ever want - panic attacks. I have no time for those debilitating things. I have to go to work, etc...
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Eeeeeeek. I hae to step in and give a warning here. It may not apply in the USA but it sure as heck does in the UK. In the UK to lock someone in a room that they cannot get out of and even more so if you wont let them out is regarded as abuse and is a prisonable offence so please check with your local laws on this.

To avoid this there are several things you need to consider and several things you can do.

Firstly you have to try and put yourself in their shoes. They may have no idea where it is night or day (and they may be blind which would exacerbate the situation) they know they want to leave the room but cant open the door. What would you do? Of course you'd bang on the door, the you would shout. And what would you do if they still didnt let you out?
Right youd be mad as heck...so let's look at what you can do
If it is night time wasndering then its likely they have reversed day and night - This happens a lot and the doc may be able prescribe to help reverse that back for you
You can get riser alarms so that if someone gets up either from their chair or the bed you will hear the alarm
You can get door alarms so that if they leave the room you will know about it.
Putting food and drink on a table may settle them
A commode in the room would alleviate the problem of them NEEDING to leave the room - but be warned they may still WANT to leave the room.
If stairs are a worry you need to put a relatively high prevention gate top and bottom of the stairs
And finally the most simple of all probably if youowuld hear and respond is a baby alarm or monitor

Please dont just lock them in - almost every professional I have ever worked with says this is abuse even though they recognise the difficulties
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Right on the money Jude, locking someone in a room is definitely abuse not to mention a fire risk. All your ideas are excellent. You certainly can lock outside doors and ground floor windows or push heavy furniture against the door. I knew one lady who slept in her recliner up against the front door. A simple door alarm sounds the best and cheapest. Listening to a baby monitor all night would drive me cuckoo
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Gawoman Mom may be closer than two weeks with that much fluid build up. The "blood' spots you are seeing are indeed pooled blood because her heart is no longer able to support her circulation. The underside of any area of her body will begin to display this dark color. it is called mottling and has a kind of "net" appearance. This is all part of the dying process for want of a better term. Ask about stopping her medications at this point and don't try and feed her if she is reluctant and can't swallow properly. talk to your hospice nurse and ask her to answer your questions honestly about timing. No one can give a certain answer but looking at Mom they will have a good idea and what they think will change from day to day. Ask what you should be looking for and what if anything you should be doing differently. With this amount of fluid build up she may start to retain fluid in her lungs ans white bubbly froth may come out of her nose and mouth. Just put a towel under her head and keep it whiped dry. There is a medication called Levisin you can ask your nurse about. It does not treat anything but may help dry up some of the secretions and make it less distressing for you to see. It is a tiny white tablet that you can just slip under her tongue to melt. Swab her mouth before you give it so there is moisture to melt it. Ask your nurse too about breathing changes. There are many things that may or may not happen but it is helpful if you know what to expect. Hospice should have given you literature about death and dying when she was admitted so read it now to refresh your memory. the moment of death is not usually scary just the decent of a feeling of utter peace. You have done your best and that is all that matters. blessings.
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was going to apologize for whoevers post I reported but I see it was mine so does not matter
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You nutter Veronica xxxxxx
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I wish they would update their technology and add a question "Are you sure you want to Report this Post?". I hit 'Report this Post' once by accident when I was scrolling or I just touched the screen, can't remember. I have no idea who I reported either. That message just popped up thanking me for reporting...whatever it says.
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awwwwww bless Shilo
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I think we have all done it, reported by just a mistap. And I have reported my own posts as well. A simple question, "are you sure" would be nice and simplify for admin I would think. Then there is my all time favotite, we need an edit function. How hard coyld it be?!
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We never locked mom in her room. We triple locked all exit doors of the house. We have an outside kitchen that used to be a garage and that door was locked too. Our locks are not by keys. You just slide the lock left or right to lock or unlock. Dad installed one above the door knob and one below. Mom had free rein inside the house except access to the kitchen.... even when she was normal, she used to go after dad with the butcher knife... one of my few childhood memories that I still remember. We were "locked" inside the house as with mom. If she really wanted out, she can open the louvers and take one louver out at a time, push the screen (only held by 4clips) and get out. Our house doesn't have one solid window panes. It's all louvers.
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glad - a question or just add a button "ops, didn't mean to do that!" btw, seennnothing wong wit yur poting.
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dad rearranges items in his room. That is what I look for when i see him. Though he was hiding toilet papet under the bed for 2-3 years now.
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57 my mom has taken to doing that just recently the fridge is her fave place and I have had to clean it and disinfect it 3 times this week. Howver today I found her putting soiled botty wipes into her handbag. She is very angry with me but her bag is now in the bin yuk yuk yuk
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thank you again for your comments Veronica
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