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gawoman, I feel so bad for you and mom. Can you call hospice right now with this question? I know they are all different, but my dad's was on call 24/7. Is she wetting a lot which would explain where the fluids are going? My dad peed out (for lack of a better expression) copious amounts his last couple of days.

So hard for you and MIL. (Hugs)
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I would windytown, but I think I'll wait till morning. She is running a fever and I think I need to wait until the morning to make sure its not just a temporary thing. she is not peeing alot but that is due to the kidney failure and congestive heart failure. she retains fluids pretty bad. Her stomach has bloated in the last few days. The day she lost all the fluid in her legs she did pee more. But not now. I think she will go soon...maybe within the next few days. she is so weak
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Judda, I’m glad that you and mom had a great time together 5 days ago. I was smiling as I read it. I’m learning to treasure (or enjoy?) the times when he’s in a good Positive mood. Because that may become less and less as he progresses.

College, I smiled when I read that the EMT’s love your mom. She’s such a lady – so considerate in trying to give tips to the EMTs. Do you know how rare to read that here? I’ve never read one. It’s good that your family worries about you and your mom. They really care about you both.

Daughter52, a lot of ‘wants’ are my ‘wants’. I miss just walking out of the house to go shopping or visiting. I miss having free weekends. I miss just leisurely doing things, instead of rushing home because your sitter is leaving soon.

Gawoman...{{{Hugs}}}
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Maybe they could get labs just by finger stick - but seriously, on hospice, they should be carefully evaluating the needs for lab work. Fluid shifts can be strange - it depends on how much volume in your blood vessels and how much in tissues. Elevating the legs would hopefully get some back out of the tissues into the blood stream, but not too much for her heart to handle.
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My MIL is in the dying process. She was evaluated by hospice this morning. They started a very low dose of morphine. 5 mc. said it would make her comfortable. She had no pain much to speak of but complained this morning of her back ( in just a mumbled voice) so they said give her that and her blood pressure med. and anxiety by desolving it on a teaspoon with a drop of water. I got this done and stuffed cool rags under her arms and between her legs and on her neck and head to stop the sweating. She ran a fever yesterday but not today. I have seen her blood mottling in her ankles. she breathes very shallow. I give her only peace at the moment. no fluids except just a sip...no food as it can cause aspiration. She doesnt really know she is in the world. Bless her heart. Its hard to watch but I know she is gonna be in a better place.
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Sorry you have to go through this gawoman...I was in the same spot with my mother just 3 short days ago. From what mom's hospice nurse explained to (she was with me when mom passed) it is common for the person's body to get extremely hot almost like internal combustion...of course the mottling and change in breathing is your affirmative that she is on her way... mom's nurse thought maybe 24 hours but it was less than thirty minutes later.... yes it is extremely hard to witness.... just hold her hand and reassure her she will be just fine in her new life. God Bless
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New here so I will keep this brief, although I appreciate TOO many of these comments and my heart goes out to them.....

Miralax, Miralax, Miralax and fluids!! I cannot vouch for this product more when it comes to keeping elders hydrated and the movement going properly.

Second, WHY do we feel so much guilt? How is THIS life the way life is suppose to be? When did OUR lives become so unimportant - or did we decide that?
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AH yes Andraste but my mum has just been in hospital because she had a really low soidum level enhanced by me pushing too many fluids onto her. They cut down on her fluids to build up the sodium levels. I absolutely agree with you about fluids - just saying that sometimes it can have an adverse effect especially with some antidepressants that may have side effects of lowering sodium levels
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Gawoman, my Mom has been going through the blood transfusions at least once a month, they have trouble finding her veins also the damage they do in the process is staggering. Their skin is so fragile at this point.
we have elected not to go through the transfusions any longer. They can put a port in so they do not have to to stick her as they do for some cancer patients I am told who go through chemo etc. Not sure if she is strong enough to get that either. Every time my mother goes the it is such an ordeal my mother was in such discomfort during the whole process and she has complications sitting in a wheelchair or gerry chair waiting to get seen or taken care of it causes more issues then the the blood is providing. Hospice is helpful in our decision not to go to the hospital any longer for those sessions. My mother goes gets so upset as to they way she gets treated by others the nurses and CN's maybe doing their job but she needs more gentile handling at this stage. Why are they not teaching compassion and how to take care of Seniors with more dignity near the final process? I got off topic sorry but the whole situation like this is frustrating.
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Gawoman...my heart goes out to you and is with you now. She will soon have no pain and be able to leave her poor body that no longer works. And you have given her a wonderful gift to pass at home...not to mention all the love and care. Sending you love and strength and peace.
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Today i gathered all the flowers from the 6 loved ones who have passed, then did moms shopping for groceries, meds, and birdfeed. She calls so many times every day...wondering if there is something shes supposed to do that day...or repeating questions or comments. Today she said shes tired of this life....its because she knows her mind is so messed up and shes always 'in a fog'. Yesterday when i reminded her to write down that i was coming today to run her errands, i said...make your grocery list of what you want/need. I always check to see what she needs as well but i feel this gives her some normality to also make her own list.. She said...i dont know how to make a list. She has lost so much in the last 6 months. I brought up assisted living again....and again she shot back with I would NEVER go somewhere like that with people trying to tell me what to do all the time. Even when i tell her its not like that, she simply changes the subject. I miss my mom.
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Thank you for all your comments. It does help, but Blood will not help her now. The dying process has begun and from what I understand-when its her time-it will be her time. Her mouth is bluish around her lips and she has stopped the sweating, and she is just resting comfortable with the 5 mc of Morphine she has been given. I do appreciate you guys talking to me during this time. Its strange I have had a calm come over me today but at times I get awed by the fact that she is going. Wow...the time is here and Im in a bit of shock.
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It does sound like the time is near. My prayers are with you. I was with my mom when it was her time and I'm grateful, though it was hard; she had said she did not want to be alone and it was one of the few things where I could know I had done something right and fulfilled something she had wanted and needed. It did seem a little unreal, maybe because it is SO real, the most real event that ever happens...hugs and prayer for you and mom!!
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gawoman we are all thinking about you and wishing Mom a peaceful passing. you have been doing a wonderful job caring for her and loving her. I know at times it has felt as though you are wandering in circles but you have found your way. You have been such a blessing to her
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We're all praying for you Gawoman and your loved one to have peace beyond all understanding. This is a tough time to go through and you are doing awesome. We will keep you in our thoughts and prayers.
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GAwoman time to reflect on the joys of her life and, like the others I wish for you peace and calm for a gentle passing. Stay strong and rest as much as you are able.... you will need all your strength in the coming days xxxxx
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gawoman, just ((HUGS)) to you. Make sure to step outside and get some fresh air for yourself and look at the stars or enjoy the sunshine, whatever time it is when you get out. It is helpful to step back for a moment to collect your thoughts. Sending prayers for you and yours.
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Retired from caregiving, ready for the next chapter.
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Gawoman, we're all with you in spirit. Checking to see any of your updates. Take care. {{Hugs}}
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Glad, was I hallucinating this morning in bed when I was reading here? I could have sworn you changed your avatar. Of course, I was reading the kindle without my glasses on. Yes, a new chapter... When my mom passed away, I changed my avatar photo and even my name. It was the end of THAT chapter of my life. And created a new name (bookluvr) for my new journey with dad.

I wish you well.

P.S... I don't mind, really, if you do hop back in and tell us what the twisteds have done (or not done) when it comes to your mom (or trying to - with L.) {{Hugs}}
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Thanks, book I have been thinking about doing that. It is hard to believe it is over. And there seem to be so many passings here lately. Lots of changes!
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I stopped in a Dads this morning as I had not stopped in Saturday or Sunday. I was grubby from weeding a clients garden. He was sitting in his usual chair in the living room. I said my usual Hi Dad but he looked at me and I know he did not recognize me at first. He seems to be more confused the past three weeks. Fell into his usual routine of when Am Icgoing home, where is everyone, I live here, how long do I have to stay here etc.....sad .
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Hi friends, Although my MIL has started the process, hospice has informed me that she will more than likely die a good death, but it will be awhile. She is showing signs of dying and they have her on the lowest dose of morphine and anxiety medication but watching this is horrible. She has terrible night sweats-sweating so bad it about soaks her clothing. Her head was dripping sweat last night at 2 oclock in the morning. Also her blood pressure has been incredibly high and then her blood pressure was normal and her pulse was 139. I have been told these swings will be the norm and if its gonna be awhile...I may freak out. My MIL is in no pain except when we move her legs or buttocks, (yes I am rolling her every four hours) and she moans like she is dying when we touch her legs, just slightly moving her and changing her diaper. She did not urinate for over 24 hours but then defecated 3 times in one morning. Im like this is not fun. I hope I can make it through all this. Hospice said Im doing it right, but I feel very lost.
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For the last two days, mom and I have been at war. She refused to change out of her soiled clothes which took me three hours to complete the task. When I have finished with her, I was in need of a bath and a change of clothes. You would think she would say, "thank you dear, I feel better now," instead, "You mean a** heifer, I could have clean myself. GOD is going to punished you." I had to just tell her, if she not happy or satisfied with me taking care of her, I'm willing to find someone or place that she can be happy. She grunted and didn't say another word to me all that day.
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gawoman, I'm thinking about you. No, this is not fun. I know it is all part of life, but why does it have to be so hard. It sounds like you are doing a good job with your MIL. I am sending some thoughts of peace over your way to help you cope.
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{{{GA}}} hateful hateful time - are you still doing this all on your own hun? What exactly is that hubby of yours doing to help you? I know he works long hours but he enjoys his work you work long hours and don't - he has to give you a break sweety you need and deserve it xxxx
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Diannah now you didn't really expect any THANKS after you did all that did you? Really? Honestly? My mum is a bit like that - won't won't won't, I could have done that for myself then the name calling...not all the time but enough for it to grate ...a lot!

Just bite your tongue and remember you hate the disease not the person ........my mantra most days!
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Karen I admire what you do - I think all of us do but it 'feels' different when it is your own kin....and I am speaking from experience of both. While putting myself through Uni I looked after an elderly lady until her passing which was very sudden and violent in terms of an aortic embolism as opposed to a passing in her sleep. Like you I could do all the necessary with positive approach/energy etc but I did have a shift end.

The trouble is when caring at home some of us don't have a shift end at all it can be 24/7 for us and then the me time isn't 'when we need it me time' its when they eventually sleep or snatched between a and b. I think we would all benefit from a dedicated 2 hours a day when we KNOW we can do as we want we can plan for it (H*ll planning for anything is nigh on impossible - I can guarantee Mum will fall, get diarrhea or throw a real tantrum if she gets wind that I have planned something for me (no that's not fair sometimes she just sulks).

Narcissistic as this may sound I would really like to have me time when I want it. OK OK self self self but I'm human too at least I used to be!
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Wanting me time when you are a 24/7 caregiver is NOT the least bit narcissistic! Jude I don't understand how you can make that statement! Others may start thinking it selfish to CRAVE me time. We give and give and give until we cannot any longer. We deserve all the me time we can get!

Now, back to sleep, the comment about it being narcissistic to want to care for ourselves got my blood pressure going. Hope I can get back to sleep now.

No, everybody! Do not feel guilty for wanting me time, it is normal and necessary!
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for all the ones who has been there for me. I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. I have had a melt down this morning. I have done nothing but really cry all morning. My husband came home from work and stayed several hours but had to go back. Hospice said she was bad bad. She spoke a couple of words this morning and she did eat a few bites so hospice said that she is not going yet but really bad. Her blood pressure was really low so they told me not to give her her blood pressure medicine as usual. (she was on morphine 5 mc twice a day, anxiety meds 2 twice a day, and 1 blood pressure med twice a day) now its just 2 anxiety meds twice a day, morphine 5 mc 3 times a day and no blood pressure meds at all, nothing else. Her oxygen has been very low, they upped it to 4 and they said unless her heart just stopped it would probaly be a few days. God only knows. He does things in his time and no one knows even the angels in Heaven when he will take her. So now it is just waiting time, and just trying to be loving and caring for her and watching. Please keep me in your prayers. I had to take a shower and just cry my heart out for awhile since David was here and it helped. Ive took care of her 7 months now and it just been us during the week and David and me taking care of her at night and weekends. Yes, he is manning up and doing what he needs to. someone told me that men just couldnt handle it when it came to their mothers, I definately agree.
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