Follow
Share
Read More
This discussion has been closed for comment. Start a New Discussion.
Find Care & Housing
She went on vacation a while back, so tex must have been following some of her conversations through time.
(1)
Report

I've never had to deal with a rat in the house, lots of mice, bats, once even a garter snake (it must have been hiding in one of the plants I brought inside for the winter), but no rats. My sis is so freaked out by mice she can't even set a trap, maybe you BIL is afraid too LOL.
(2)
Report

There are such things as exterminators!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(4)
Report

TEXRINER, did you even read my profile before questioning me as being authentic? I was young, found God, changed my religion and embraced God's principles before mom became diagnosed with dementia. I and my 7 siblings had a terrible childhood. Everyone fled as soon as they could. When mom was diagnosed and her doctor told us that it was long hard road, mom and dad would need all of us.... My new conscience obligated me to stay home and help dad... He took early retirement. I cried on my religious person's wife's shoulder because I Didn't Want to help them.... Mom was violent from the beginning. She was fast. She once grabbed my right breast, twisted it hard, staring at with such viciousness waiting for me to cry out. Our parents trained us well... Never cry when they punish us. I stood there, no sound, trying so hard not to let mom see the tears of pain. She saw it, was happy to know she hurt me, let me go.... I learned after that to never ever let her corner me again. I started strategically finding ways to protect myself while watching mom. I pushed the sofa away from the wall. When mom became suddenly angry, violent and attacked me, I fled behind the sofa. She flipped the d*mn thing to try to get to me. I fled screaming to my bedroom, mom right behind me, slammed the door, locked it. I leaned against the door as she tried to break in. Dad had an appointment. I was her caregiver. Dad and I were mom's caregivers. Read My Profile before questioning my words.

It's when posters like you think you're the only one who has it hard. I didn't have a life. It was work and caregiving.... Mom's last 14 years was bedridden with trache, stomach tube, 24/7 oxygen, completely vegetative state...still just me and dad. Dad had the day shifts, I took over after work. Mom needed constant suctioning every 19-15 minutes or else she choked on her phlegm, saliva. Dad was knocked out by 7pm. He doesn't change her pampers. I came home during my 1 hour lunch to change it. Nights, I changed it by myself. Mom was dead weight and automatically kept trying to go on her back, so I stacked lots of pillows on and behind her to keep her on her sides as I cleaned her.

Dad, mom's full time caregiver, finally had a stroke 4 years ago. I now had 2 bedridden parents. Not One of my 7 siblings offered to help. It's Not Their Problem....D*mn family invite me to parties or dinner but didn't think I would need someone to cover both bedridden parents. Worked full time job because I'm Not Independently Wealthy. Our food pantry is basically empty most of the time. I dread when we get guests because I have to offer my meager food which is a Cup-o-noodle. I had to pay oldest sibling to help me with both bedridden parents in the form of Babysitting which did not include changing their pampers......

I started blacking out, suicidal. Therapist asked me to tell my sibs about my suicidal, need their help with the parents. I resisted telling the therapist they didn't help the past 20-some years,... I asked. No response....

Mom finally died. Pressure cooker released a few pressures. I finally went on a 2 week vacation last year. I had a free ticket for this year. My family thought it was easier to cover for me last year since mom is not here and it's only dad. Ha! This year no one wanted to cover for me. Instead of giving my free ticket to family, l gave it to my boss- that's worth up to $2400.00.

I'm sooooo tired. I spent half my life caregiving parents. My religious leader asked me on one of his recent visits if I regretted finding God. I said No. I regretted learning what the Bible said....

Dad's becoming angry and violent. I'm getting childhood flashbacks and even violent mom flashbacks. I'm still hanging on trying to keep everything together and not break into pieces. Oh, d*mn, tears.. I've suspected I'm going thru depression- no appetite, waking up so exhausted....

I'm sorry. I'm too exhausted to respond to other posts here.. I'm in too much pain to think. Writing above gave my headache a boost up in the pain department. Thanks everyone. I do read on a few threads but rarely comment.
(7)
Report

Yeah, it's triggering (to say the least) to have to defend yourself, book, given your situation. I'm sorry you felt you had to do that, but also good for you for sticking up for yourself.

Why would any caregiver want to make this a battle of "who has it worse"...? We're here to support each other. If you're not here for that, kindly see your way out. I'm here to support all of you in your individual situations. Mine is not same as yours, duh, yours is not same as mine.

When I had a major blowup at my dad this past April, I PM'd book and only book about it. I knew she would at least not judge me, and I needed to tell someone who might understand. I treasure you here on AC, book, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Like I said, sorry that you felt you even owed it to another poster to defend yourself. Big (((((hugs)))))
(6)
Report

[[[Hugs book]]] It's a futile battle -- "who has it worse" -- so you might as well not reply. I'm sorry that you had to. It's like asking whether someone who has had a couple of strokes "has it worse" than someone with AD. [I've had two strokes and broke my pelvis and my hip, and not at the same time.] I suppose broken-bone-person might have it better than AD-person, but it all depends and in the end, it doesn't really matter.

Dear book ...
(4)
Report

Well I would just one to say that I feel as if I am in a different site. When I first saw this site I was comforted by the same boat most of us were in and the supportive comments. Recently, I see a few lashing out at each other. Please, stop the negativity with each other and try and support and care for this difficult journey we are on. Thank you.
(2)
Report

Brought my mom up to Lexington from ft Lauderdale, 92 yo. After 2 Falls, concussion.

Moved all her furniture to Independent living.
Chronic complainer, talks non stop, Hyper critical, etc.
I left to join navy at 18, never went back..
Now 40 years later, it's like it was yesterday.

Really anti religious .. And I became a Christian 20 years ago.
Now is threatening to fly back to her empty condo, and is packing her bags..
Can hardly walk many days..
Been almost 3 months and I'm worn out.
(3)
Report

Texreiner, I think you should apologize to Book. You obviously have no idea of her history with her parents. This is NOT a competition for goodness sakes Tex!
(1)
Report

jlm, maybe you just have to let her go? Sometimes it happens that until they hit a big problem - more falls, an accident, something - they'll demand their independence. That means you'll worry and wait for a major problem to happen but... what are your other options if she's demanding to go back? You say she is "threatening" to do it. Why is it a "threat?" Is she using her going back as manipulation?
(1)
Report

If my mother threatened to leave, I would say "I'll help you pack!" :-)
(4)
Report

Windy, it's okay. I shouldn't have responded the way I did. Veterans of this site keep telling me to just ignore these kinds of stuff. Problem is that I grew up among competing, aggressive siblings. I automatically responded before thinking. It's ok.

Jlm, I'm sorry that you're in this situation. I cried when I knew my Christian duty. For a while, my religion and my closeness with God protected me from responding back to my very negative, controlling father. The constant dripping from negative dad slowly eroded my armor of the fruitage of the spirit. I recall going into depression because I was getting unChristianlike thoughts. I'm glad my dad wasn't anti religious..just anti my religion. Funny don't you think? It was due to my new religion that I stayed to help him.... Truly, as long as your mother is not declared incompetent and a danger to herself, there's nothing you can do... How can you stop her? I'm so sorry...

Do you know what my fave niece said today? I told her a story about a woman calling the police because there was a confused elderly woman in her yard. The police went house to house knocking on doors to find her home. They found the house and the family didn't even know that their mother had wandered out....Niece said that she's glad that grandpa is bedridden. Because he's becoming confused and wants to go home, and with his anger and violence, we would have had a difficult time with him...

So jlm, I get where you're coming from. I think you need to call someone who knows the ropes about elderly people. What you can do and cannot do. Our local govt has a division for the elderly. Maybe you can visit them, talk to someone and pick up some pamphlets. They'll help you if you ask, like my dad did when mom was diagnosed with dementia. I'm sorry I don't have much advice to help you. Cyber hug? {{{{{HUGS}}}}
(1)
Report

One evening an elderly woman with her little dog rang my door bell and told me her family had taken her for a drive and hadn't come to pick her up. All she could tell me was the name of the town where she lived then asked to use the bathroom. I held the dog while ahe went and was able to read the tag on his collar.It had the owners name and address. The town she had names was in fact her own last name. As it was less than half a mile away i just put her plus dog in my car and drove her home. Outside was a group of concerned neighbors and husband. They had notified the police who were out searching. All were very relieved to see her safe and sound. Husband said she had been very confused since having a stroke a few months ago. At least they had the sense to put her name and address on the dog.
(4)
Report

Book you are a beautiful person and I love your dearly. No one has any right to criticize you or the way you conduct your life. The time you will be judged will be when you reach heaven and I am confident you won't be sent to "the other place"
Love you Book, hugs
(2)
Report

I feel for the family. Mom went through that. But her favorite getaway time was evening, dark outside. It became regular routine to find her missing and us running all over the place looking for her. We live near the main road. I remember being scared that one day one of my older sibs will tell us that mom got hit by a car. One night, we spent hours looking for her. We finally found her hiding under the car in the back garage. She was whimpering in fear. Dad finally bought those sliding locks and put 2 per door. Mom knew how to unlock the doorknob, but she didn't know how to work the sliding lock. No more wandering outside at nights. But this increased her anger because she wanted out. I still remember her pounding on the door because she wanted out.... Boy, do I feel for that family...
(1)
Report

An elderly man with his dog wandered out of his home in the daytime. I don't think they ever found him. They had his picture and number to call in the news for several days. The scary part was that they lived in the boonie area....
(0)
Report

One last word before I hit the sack. Rats. Never ever set up one of those snapping rat traps. Based on past experiences:

1. If the rat is not smart and gets caught, you will hear all night it's squeal of pain and panic. All night. You feel soooo bad because that squealing just pulls the heartstrings.... Then morning arrives and you suddenly realize you don't know what to do with it... How do you move it from the kitchen to outside the house??? Call the male next door neighbor, that's what you do. Hope you're in talking terms...

2. If the captured rat has a smarter sibling, that ingenious rat knows how to get out of the released trap. It now avoids that route. And the trap is avoided at all cost by smarty rat.
a) so you decide to move the trap to another wall. The next morning, the rat dragged the tarp over the trap. (Really, it did!)
b) since rat is smarter than me, I called nephew for help. He comes over with this rectangle cage, attach meat inside. When the rat enters and pulls the meat, the cage door closes. (I eyed the cage and had real doubts it would work. It worked.

I like the suggestion about calling the exterminator. Expensive but ....
(1)
Report

Book you have to keep a hammer handy and a fearless male which most of us don't have around. He hits it on the head and you drop or hopefully he does the body in the trash. the other solution is to have a long pair of tonges and a bucket of water handy. (Make up your own instructions for that one} In your case Book deposit body on brother's property. You can even say a prayer over it if you really feel bad.
When I was a kid the workers in the fields would tie string round the bottoms of their trousers when they were cutting corn (the English variety) so the rats did not run up their trouser legs. The rabites they simply shot for dinner. It was war time after all.
(2)
Report

Or you could buy a humane trap? I bought several for the few mice I get in the fall. Each has a dose of valerian in it, so you can take it (I used a rubber glove, but you might feel better with tongs -- never thought of that) and dispose of the rat in the woods, the trap in the trash.

Oh, and the mouse/rat is supposed to stay alive, but in my case, it fell asleep, then woke up and had a tiny panic attack, and died of heart failure. (I suppose if I woke up in a coffin, I'd have a panic attack too, but it wouldn't be tiny.)
(3)
Report

See what I did there??? I meant to say that the valerian made the mouse/rat calm down for a while, so you can then ...

We need an Edit button!! In the worst way!!
(2)
Report

Fave niece, effective immediately, will no longer be babysitting grandpa. Lastnight, I was able to get nephew to watch on Saturdays, with pay, of course. Is he reliable? No. Has he ever changed an adult pamper? No. Do I trust him alone in our house? No. He's a stealer, even from family. I strongly believe as a teenager who lived next door, that he walked into my bedroom and stole the old baht chain (soft gold, maybe 24 karat) that mom gifted to me. With him in the house, he will not be able to resist temptation. I will be locking my bedroom door....
(2)
Report

My rat/mouse solution is 4 cats and a dog in the (2 story - 2 up, 2 down, then reverse); haven't had any rodents since my husband built the place 12 yrs ago!
(3)
Report

Mally, not only are your pets rat repellent, I bet they're also burglar repellent.
(2)
Report

At one time many decades ago I had a tortie cat who would run anyone or anything on four legs off the property. Even the UPS driver. She would hide in our front bushes and then come running out sideways, in her Halloween stance. It would even scare me :P
(6)
Report

i'm really depressed folks. My 92 yo mom, whom i moved 1000 miles to my town, is just hammering me daily to move back to fla, alone, to her empty condo.

She complains constantly, and i'm sick of it. I am ready to let her go, and the hell with it.
My life is now dealing with this crap twice a day, she lives 8 min from me at Independent Living place.
Was a loner for 30 years, and "just doesn't need anybody"...
She accidentally took 6 days of meds last week, as she got confused on her med box.
I feel i need a shrink, and its only been 3 months since i moved her.

sorry for rant... i'm tired....
//thanks
(3)
Report

Jim, I hope your shrink will tell you that she's lost her marbles and you need to keep yours as firmly in your head as possible. It is terribly annoying, but think of what you might have to tell a toddler about why they can't use the power tools in the garage, and how often you might have to tell them. Your poor mom WISHES she could go back to how life used to be, but she can't, and she can't get her head around that nor can she stop obsessing over it. You are allowed to rant and be tired though, for sure!!

Hard part too - vacant homes are frowned upon by insurance companies and unless things are at all likely to change with regards to Mom's inability to move back and live independently or with the degree of help it would take, should she even be able to accept it - you probably have to start thinking about getting incapacity letters (assuming you already have financial and healthcare POA) so you can sell. You may not need a shrink for yourself, as much as you need a good talk with a geriatric social worker or admissions director for an assisted living facility about your mom's actual abilities to manage even in independent living. I know when my mom's neighbors talked about how she was "sharp as a tack" it tore me up and really slowed me down in doing what needed done - I kept hoping she'd be able to go home way longer than I should have (though not as long as she did :-)
(5)
Report

jlm8699, I see from your profile that your Mom has age related decline. My Dad [also in his 90's] had that too but I was seeing some dementia knocking at his door.

Since your Mom got confused with her pill box, my Dad did the same thing, I had to get him "medicine care" option where all the pills are kept in the nurses office at Independent Living, and the "med techs" came around twice a day to give him his required dose... yes, there was a fee for that, but well worth it.

It took me months to finally learn how to speak with my Dad when he was "sundowning" with dementia. I learned to just agree with what he was saying as I knew he would forget it an hour later.... that turned out to be a win-win for both of us. It made him feel good, and the same with me [sorta]. It was a quick fix until the next day.

My parents had passed not that long ago, and I am finally seeing a talk therapist who is my age and had gone through taking care of her elderly Mom... finally a person face to face who DID understand :)
(3)
Report

My hubby just had a total hip replacement, and I've been taking care of him the best I can. I took 3 weeks off work and I'm in week 2 . It's been very hard to watch his pain, but I'm working threw it with him. But he's not been the best patient , he lashing out quite quickly, and always reminds me it's his pain I don't know what I'm talking about. No matter what I try and do , I get lashed at. I know the med's are talking. But I'm so stressed I don't know what to do? I don't even want to be hear. But 35 yrs prohibits me from otherwise . Does anyone know how long the lashing out goes on? I'm smoking more, drinking more, and just always afraid, can't sleep , Could use some help.
(2)
Report

Yuki
Is getting visits at home from a physical therapist - what does his doctor say about his level of progress?

If instead of a cigarette break can you take a 10 minute walk ?

Sometimes folks behave worst around their family than hired care professionals - can you get help temporarily or when you go back to work ?
(5)
Report

What made you take the decision to move your mother, Jim? Was there a last straw, or what?

Yuki, two weeks in your husband should be dialling back on the pain meds and beginning to feel a lot better. After all, you have a hip replacement to *stop* hip pain, not make it worse. When is his next follow-up appointment? I'd want to check his surgeon is satisfied with his rate of progress, if I were you.
(2)
Report

This discussion has been closed for comment. Start a New Discussion.
Start a Discussion
Subscribe to
Our Newsletter