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Book, in Ontario (Canada) they have done away with regular screening with a colonoscopy. To quote healthline dot com:

"One option is the fecal immunochemical tests, or FIT, which are approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). It’s used as the first line colorectal cancer screening test in most of the world, including Canada, Israel, the Netherlands, Italy, France, Taiwan, China, South Korea, Scotland, and soon, England. It’s recommended as the screening test of choice by the European Union Guidelines."

So every 2 years we get the "poop on a stick" package from the doc and colonoscopies are only recommended for those with a family history or if the FIT test is suspicious. Ask your health care providers about that using option.
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Today, I went to the referral. When the doctor walked in, I gave him a wide cheerful friendly smile. I liked him immediately. That's my first impression. He was patient as I haltingly explained the reflux, trying to change my eating habits, burning throat, heartburn. How I had it under control years ago, it's back with a vengeance....

He then asked that dreaded question....How old am I. (Based from past experience, it's a Prelude to the colonoscopy subject.) He immediately said that I look good for my age....Then, he asked if I had a colonoscopy. All smiles left my face. I shook my head. I suspect I must have totally shut down, because he gently kept telling me that it doesn't hurt. Over and over. And I just sat there and looked at him solemnly. It would be like doing 2 things for the price of one - colonoscopy and endoscopy...

He told me that when he has to do something, he goes at it gung-ho. I said that I have to be dragged kicking and screaming before I'm Forced to do it.... He said to just do it and get it over with..... I finally agreed... He told me that if my insurance reject the colonoscopy, he will pay for it...

I was so depress, I couldn't even eat lunch. I went back to work and I was so downcast. I even got a major headache after the appt. I'm still feeling strange. I think I'm truly terrified of this. I keep telling myself that I had 2 major stomach surgeries. Colonoscopy is nothing compared to that... so maybe tomorrow, I will go online and read up on it... I truly, truly hope this really bad aversion to the colonoscopy is not one of those gut feelings. I really, really hope not. Just like my 2 different stomach surgeries, I researched extensively before it so I knew what I was facing. I need to do the same. Maybe knowledge will overcome my gut instinct. I feel so funny. It's weird. Sigh... doc said that I will need someone to do dad's pamper for that day.
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Cwillie, I think our island is way behind in everything - medical, X-rays, mobile phones, etc... Our 'new' current eye glass frames are years behind the US current frames. Uhm... due to a very high rate of cancer deaths on island, they push for annual mammograms, etc... 1 person dies of cancer every 3 days from a population of 174,000. My headache is back. Gosh, I'm really scared of the procedure, heart is starting to beat fast... later. I'm behind. Time to change dad's pamper and meal.
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Ha ha ha, the poop on a stick test is very old school and was standard back before colonoscopies were invented. Honestly, just tell them no, they can't force you to have one, especially if you give them a viable alternative.
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Okay. I will need to make an appointment with my primary and see if they even do the poop on the stick. Gosh, I remember doing that decades ago as part of the yearly checkups. Now yearly checkups consist of them pushing my lower belly and blood tests. My previous clinic, the doctor also had me stand up, squat and stand.. and one where I stand up and close my eyes. The closing eyes test- I could feel my body swaying. On my last annual at that clinic, the doctor said it's still not bad... I don't even know what that tests for. But my current clinic doesn't include those movement tests.

Thanks Cwillie!
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Book, If you end up having the colonoscopy the dr is right it doesnt hurt. They give some sort of twilight sleep. The prep though was ugh. I think they are still doing the every 10 years here. When I hit 50 I got a happy birthday, time for your colonoscopy card lol
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Here, in Vancouver, Canada they give you a little kit. You spread out a piece of what looks like onion skin paper over the bowl, do your business, collect the poo with a little stick, stick it into a vial that has liquid in it. Write the date and time you collected the poo on a paper, deposit all into a plastic envelope and then a paper bag and drop it off at the lab. If nothing abnormal shows up in the poo, you don't need to go for a colonoscopy. Although, I have wondered how this test is going to tell them if you have any polyps in your intestines.
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Thanks Gershun for that detailed account!
The presence of blood in the stool can mean just about anything, but if a polyp is benign, if is not bleeding yet. imo.
It is just a screening test, not accurate unless three samples over time are tested. Don't eat any red meat-it may test positive.
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My doctor asks me twice a year if I've had my colonoscopy- not yet

He gave me the three stick test last visit but I'll be darned if I'm going to take it to the office with me 💩😝
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I've had two colonoscopies. Prep is a bit arduous, but the procedure itself is no big deal. Not sure why people push back so much. I've had two friends who've had very early stage cancers discovered and removed. Seems like win/win to me.
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I'm not sure how my body will react with the prep. I don't know how it will react with anesthesia or whatever they use. On my 2 stomach surgeries, I suffered for a few days afterwards with severe upper chest pains (felt like something was squeezing my chest tight) which stopped me from inhaling air. The 1st surgery, these episodes only occurred when I was lying down. The 2nd surgery, the episodes occurred even when walking and more frequencies. I believe it's my acid reflux gone crazy because I was on a fasting diet the day before the surgeries. It's very scary to have such severe upper chest pains and Not be able to breathe in. I was literally croaking loudly trying to breathe in some air. Awful. I don't ever want to go through surgery again.

Anyway, at the moment, the colonoscopy is on the back burner. My Acid reflux/GERD is on a rampage. I've been googling these past few days on how to prevent it, control it, what to eat and not eat. I'm now reading online of others experiences with this and what helps them... I need to order online a Manuka honey level 16 (healing level) to help coat my stomach and esophagus before bedtime. So far I found a level 12. Expensive honey.
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Bookluvr,
Your Manuka Honey may have curative properties because of the bees that feed on the Melaleuca plants. This is not something you are buying to put on the breakfast table to share with family as a spread for toast (although it is very tasty). Think of it as a medicine, research the dosage, maybe one teaspoon - one tablespoon daily, so it should last a month + ??
Don't quote me on this but the science is that Melaleuca has antiseptic and antibiotic properties, as well as others.
Research on your own and don't give it to diabetics, I am sure. I am not touting it as a cure-all, but the gerd I have was out of control, and 40 days later I have been able to discontinue prilosec, carafate, prevacid complete. Now, I take two tums for the calcium carbonate recommended by my doctor which cuts the burning from gerd. It was roiling up into my throat!
Of course it is part of a complete plan to get healthy, so eating less (1/2) is important too. If I eat ice cream, I must take a lactaid tablet-this also seems to help the gerd, but ask your doctor. I will be discontinuing the ice cream when I become a perfect person, Lol.

This is just what I am doing Bookluvr, be careful, read up on it, everything in moderation. Shop carefully on Amazon, for a good quality Manuka honey.  I don't know why, but it took several weeks to find mine, entering several categories of searches.
In the meantime, I started with a 10+ from a local store.
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What you describe with your surgeries could be an adverse reaction to anesthesia or meds, such as pain meds.
Be sure to tell your doctor when they ask about allergies to meds. Just because you didn't get a rash or go into anaphylactic shock doesn't mean you can tolerate those meds. Find out what meds and put them on your list.

And just for you Book, please don't worry, there is hope.

There is even a scan (non surgical/non-invasive) that can be done for your g.i. tract.

I do understand your fears and anxiety about the procedure in your case. And ask your doctor, always.
Then use your better judgment.
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Thanks Send. Uhm... you changed your name... I already had my consultation with the Endoscopy doctor. I only put down allergic to shrimp. I went blank while filling out the form. I don't know if I'm allergic or Sensitive to certain meds.... So I didn't mention that codeine gives me pounding headaches. In both after surgeries pain meds, my pounding headaches were worse than the surgical cuts in my stomach. (surgery #2 had complications. Sis saw the surgeon come out of the OR and leaned very tiredly with eyes closed against the wall...the endometriosis had attached itself to several of my inner organs- Several!) .... Sudafed gives me rashes on the lips. If I continue, my eyes swell... Pink Eyes drops swelled my eyes.... ear infection drops caused rashes in my ears.... Allergies or Sensitivity? ..

I guess I will need to have another consultation before the colonoscopy. But... I feel such a hypochondriac... to be such a ninny about these meds.... Thanks Send.
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I had a sudden rude awakening this morning at 4:30am. I suddenly jerked awake smelling this awful stench... Dad was touching his poop! I got mad at him. I was soooo tired. And then I was sooooo angry. My heart was beating so hard and fast, I felt it. I suddenly stopped getting angry. This.. With my high cholesterol, this sudden anger from waking from deep sleep was dangerous. You don't just jump into your car in the morning and leave without warming up the engine... so I typed with 1 finger and told my siblings by email that dad touched his poop and I'm writing to them to calm myself. It worked. My pounding heart slowed down.... I know that I was suppose to change Dad but I was soooo tired mentally and physically. I had to go back to sleep and clean the mess when I get up at 6:30.

I came home this afternoon. I didn't smell anything cuz my nose was back to not working. When it was time to change his pamper, I saw poop on the lifter sheet. I walked around inspecting him. Yep, poop also on his slacks. Really? My nephew and his wife will not change the pamper??? It was quite dried up. Sigh...

When he pees, the pee no longer goes into the catheter bag. It spurts out as if he's not attached to the catheter. So changing his pamper must be done quickly because he cannot control the flow of urine.

I'm beginning to hate my name. He just calls it over and over and over. I swear it's like every 30 seconds. 10pm. Time to change his pamper...
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If dad continues to pee outside of the attached catheter, the next step is either a bigger tube or the stomach catheter. I told the nurse that he's been trying to pull out the catheter. The pamper (and my taping across the front pamper) with the zippered slacks makes it difficult for him to do so. I told her that If we switch to the stomach, I have no idea how to prevent him from pulling it out. She didn't respond.

My boss is showing signs of forgetfulness. He used to have a very sharp memory. I try not to add this worry onto my shoulders. In all the years working with them, we have never mixed business with pleasure. Maybe it's just old age and it's finally showing. I hope so. .. his father had Alzheimer...
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I'm no expert Book, but I think the suprapubic catheter is still below the belt line so keeping it in shouldn't be any more difficult than now.
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I'm tired of changing pampers. It's not difficult. Just that I've been changing pampers for over 17 years. Dad's still running strong. He's 89 years old. No high blood pressure. No cholesterol. No diabetes. His home nurse told me that she's amazed for someone bedridden as long as him has no bedsores. She's concerned that he's coughing up phlegm. I said that I know. But he refuses to go to the clinic.

I've decided to eat chicken soup for lunch this past week. It seemed to help with my acid reflux. Except Friday, My stomach bloated. I was miserable at work all afternoon. When I went to the restroom, I was shocked at how extended my stomach was. So, today, I bought Tums and Zantac. I will use one at a time for a week to see if my body accepts it.

I'm delaying changing dad's pamper by coming here. Alas, it's 11pm, way past his bedtime. {{{groaning as I get up, trudging resentfully to do it.}}}
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Bookluvr,
So sorry to visit and run off. It's not anything you have done, it's me.
It has been too hard to follow all the threads anymore, but I do think of you and come looking for you if I don't see you anywhere. Guess that I have missed a few posts addressed to me after I have left. I want to apologize to you and others.

Hoping you have had some success with gerd. I was reading online 'reflux m.d.'
Some articles have been enlightening, and helped me personally. I sure wish I could afford that special pillow they are promoting. Their scale to rate the seiousness of gerd symptoms was helpful. That is why I need the Manuka Honey.
P.M. me and then I will know if you need me to answer.
Be well!
Love fom,
Send.
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I just got home from the hospital. I knew that dad was getting pneumonia again because I recognize the signs from last time... He's had the pneumonia for the past couple of weeks. He kept refusing to go to the clinic. Last night, when I came home, he was sleeping. Nothing unusual. But when he slept without waking up (small bursts of power naps), I just thought he must be really tired.

When it was time to change his pamper, I discovered he had a high fever and he wouldn't wake up. So I started wiping him down but the fever kept coming up. Around midnight, he started having jerky breathing. I was worried that the fever was affecting his breathing. So I aggressively kept cooling him off. But the hiccupy breathing really worried me. I called SIL around 12:30am to come and see if I should call 911.
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((((((Hugs))))))) Book! Let us know what is happening.
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Ambulance medic asked if I had POA and DNR. No. Same at ER. ER doctor kept asking if I'm sure about no DNR form. Let me make a long story short. No POA means that not the doctor or the nurses would tell me anything. I waited in the ER waiting room with no update status. I understood this. HIPAA.... When they told all family members that it's time to leave, I went to SIL who was in a separate room not connected to the ambulance ER area. SIL knew more about my dad status than me! I was in the actual ER, she was in the waiting room.

This was the running theme all day today. The attending ER doctor would check on dad but no updates to us, the family. I tried and tried to explain to my sibs that this has been happening even when mom was alive. As long as I had no POA for mom and dad, they never really told me anything. Sibs were upset. I wasn't.
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Look, I warned them months ago about the importance of POA. They didn't believe me. Oh, no... they all wanted me to be POA. I tried but I knew that mentally, I was not able to handle it. I just spoke to baby bro from the states. He was so angry about this. I tried to explain and explain and explain - NO POA means NO INFO. I asked him to be POA. I asked fave sis to be POA. I asked and asked - and no one wanted it. Now, they are seeing why we needed it. Only oldest sis and I are handling this situation with aplomb.
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But this is a small island. You can go around the island at 35mph within 2 hours. So,... there are ways of getting info despite the hospital's HIPAA policy. I won't mention it here because I don't want certain individuals to get in trouble. BUT, there are some great people in the medical field who really cares about the family and the patient.
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Because of this 'round-about way' of getting information, I immediately contacted all my 7 siblings that Dad is in critical condition. Provided them with more details of his health situation.... And that he even suffered a heart attack here in the hospital! Which by the way, we were not told of this....
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Dad went in with high fever, pneumonia and difficult breathing. In the ambulance the medic was manually pumping air and then stop, to put the oxygen mask, then take it off, to manually pump air, then stop and put the oxygen mask. He did this all the way to the ER. ... at the ER, the doctor told me that no DNR means that they will have to intubate him, do his lung, resuscitate and life machine. He kept asking me if for sure dad had no DNR. I looked the doc in the eye and said that mom had DNR. When dad became bedridden, I asked him about the DNR. He absolutely refuse to do the DNR form.

By the way, I also found out that the ER called the surgeon to see if dad can have surgery because there's blood coming out of the intube thingy attached to his mouth. He's bleeding inside, maybe the stomach. We were not informed that the ER was going to do this surgery.... Surgeon won't do it...
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Several someones were whisperings.... several someones took action... And I immediately contacted all 7 siblings and explained all of dad's current health. We all agreed to do the DNR. I signed the form. Siblings were relieved. I said, "signing the DNR is not a done deal." I told the original ER doctor that dad does not want the DNR form. That doctor can say that the hospital is more obligated to listen to their patient than the family. And if I'm going to be questioned on this, I will not lie. I will tell them that dad did not want to do the DNR form. It is what it is. ...

2 of my sibs from the states are trying to fly back home...that's a $3500.00 ticket for one person! 3 days advance purchase is cheaper. Well, midnight time. I need to go sleep. Oldest sis and I have morning shift at the hospital.
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Rest easy Bookluvr. You know you have gone above and beyond for him and now finally have all the family on the same page, his outcome no longer in your hands.
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Book, how awful for you.
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Rest well, Book. It has been a long road. I hope the rest of the journey is smoother for you and your family.
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