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Uhmmm, aren't "intimate relationships" a cause of UTI's rather than the reverse? Maybe this woman is visiting from The Twilight Zone!
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Book, I remember my very first stone from 30 years ago. I was placed in the hospital and attached to IV to try to flush the stone out. It took two days.

Couple years ago I had a stone that had to be surgery removed, pretty simple procedure, but I developed a UTI couple days later... so back into the hospital for a couple of days.

Couple months ago I felt that ever so noticeable back pain, so off to the urgent clinic I went. They did a test, yep there it is again. So they asked if I wanted an IV to give the body a really good flush, so I took it. It took a few days, and a lot of drinking of water, for the stone to pass. I had to use a "top hat" which one puts on the toilet to catch the urine, then you can look for the very tiny stone... it was like panning for gold :P
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Sorry guys don't have anymore medical advice to add. Do they use a Lithoclast anymore? It is or was an instrument inserted into the bladder under anesthetic and then they somehow broke up stones and flushed them out.

I do have a story about that though. Hubby was on the team that developed that instrument. They were gettings sheep's bladders from the slaughter house putting lumps of calcium, I think in them and using the lithoclast to make them disintegrate.
One Sunday after noon hubby decided to do some experimenting in our garage. So in he went with the instrument and a bunch of bladders and my dishpan! My dishpan came back full of holes so that was a failure.

Then we went down to portsmouth where a researcher had a herd of goats he had put stones into their bladders. So the goats were anesthetized and the instrument tried on them. The interesting part of all this was that this researcher had been on the team that developed the bouncing bomb used by the Dambusters if anyone remembers that. He was pretty elderly by that time but a very interesting gentleman. I guess I will google lthoclast and see what happened to it. Did not want to stop and do it because I always loose my posts if I do that.
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Veronica,
Did the goats survive?
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Well, Veronica's story was a long time ago, but Portsmouth only has two goats left: Thelma and Louise!
This was recent:
"PORTSMOUTH, Va. (AP) — A city has ended a program to trim grass at a landfill using 10 goats and 10 sheep after many of the animals likely died.

The Virginian-Pilot reported Friday that sixteen goats and sheep have vanished from the Craney Island landfill in Portsmouth, Virginia. City officials said they were likely killed by coyotes or other wildlife.

Portsmouth brought in the animals three years ago, spending $10,000 on the project. The plan was to avoid having to pay for a specialty lawnmower and dedicate staff to maintaining the field’s hilly terrain.

Only two nanny goats, named Thelma and Louise, remain. The landfill supervisor now watches over them, making sure they have food, water and shelter.

Portsmouth has since bought a specialty mower at a cost of $135,000".
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Send this was Portsmouth England at the Naval Hospital. No the goats were euthanized after the experiment.
Don't send me hate mail if you an anti animal experiment person. This was not my circus nor my monkey (goat)

Anyone with any sense would have known that putting sheep and goats loose would put them in mortal danger from wild and domestic animals. Ask any sheep farmer
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Book, the nerve of some people, I would have felt like slapping her then telling her it is none of her d*mn business!

So, how are you feeling?
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Veronica,
Would never send you animal hate mail. There was no intent there at all.
I knew your Portsmouth was in England, a while back, and this article was in the U.S., more recent.
It was to me a funny coincidence, since I understand the scientific process and the need for animal experiments-geez-that is not taking sides in what really scares me now could become a dispute on AC-fear I have stirred up a hornets nest without thinking it through.

Not interested at all in discussing this further, so sorry to have offended you V.
So sorry for even mentioning the experiment, that I thought was an interesting story.

Seems a division has ocurred before, with hurt feelings, about animals, I think: and I do not want to be anyone to participate in that. I think the world of you V, and respect you.
So, it would be kind to me and others to drop it. Again, so sorry Veronica.
My job as medical assistant was to transport white mice from the City of Hope to the doctor, so I understand.

Anyone can send me hatemail via P.M.s, because walking a fine line with a humorous intention is often misconstrued. I am so sorry!
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Well the sewage lagoon here has a herd of sheep, but it is not in a remote area and the sheep are pastured with a pair of llamas, which apparently can fight off coyotes. I think llamas would be cheaper than specialized mowers, maybe the folks in Portland should have tried them instead of sheep and goats.
I think you are being overly sensitive again Send, I'm pretty sure V isn't mad, but that's why we all love you ((hugs))
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Thanks Cwillie!
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Book,
How are you feeling?
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Thinking of you, book, and hoping you are OK.
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Interesting topics. I learned something, too. OMG, I would be one of those city slickers who know nothing about domesticated (using loosely) animals and the natural predators. Because I would assume they have none because I don't see the wolves, the bear, or whatever predators out there. Well, the only predators I would have thought of would be the dog pack and the two-legged ones (stealing them).

I'm doing fine. That stone is not moving fast enough to me. I'm realizing as long as it's in that urethra tube, I can't sit too long. I find myself subconsciously tilting to my right to alleviate the steady low-keyed background pain. Sometimes, I find myself standing while looking over my work. Yikes, while I was concentrating on the paperwork, I had automatically stood up to ease the increasing pain. Nope. I'm not taking any painkillers. This is still bearable pain. Sis and I had lunch and then shopping yesterday. By 3pm, I was stretched out and tilting to my right, on the passenger seat. By 330p, I was ready to go home.

Last night, I was remembering dad. Silent tears....
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A client said this week that coyotes don't go over walls. Well, that info didn't get to the two coyotes who were in our yard the other night when DH let our little dog out. He made noise and they ran off but the dog didn't know to be afraid. They'd gone over a six foot tall concrete block wall!
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Concrete wall!? How did they do that? Here I was thinking it was a wooden wall - in which their claws can dig into the wood to get over to the other side. Now you know that if you're being chased by coyotes, don't think a 6 foot concrete wall can keep them out... Just like climbing a tree to get away from a bear and wild cats would work, it doesn't... Or running on top of a car from a chasing dog would work...
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{{{{{{ hugs Book }}}}}}
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I was just reading my Daily Thought email of 21Jul. It's by Sandra Bullock.

"When someone who cares about you hugs you, Hug them back with two arms. Don't do the one-arm hug, because when you hug with two arms, it allows you to lean on somebody and We Always Need Someone to Lean On."

This brought to memory Aunty L, mom's sister. She was there for us when mom died. And was there with us waiting outside the ER building for days while dad was in the ER. Despite never liking our father, mom's sisters (aunties) stepped up and was there for us at the hospital, funeral, etc... Aunty L, the most, reached all of our hearts with her beautiful singing voice - singing the death song, the funeral songs, etc... I have repeatedly thrown her my Big Hugs with 2 arms around her, full body contact, and whispering in her ear, "thank you, thank you..." ...  She spent hours before finding a song 'as if it was your dad saying it to you - even though he never said it to you in real life.'

... This daily thought for 21July - the day dad died - is a message that I didn't see - until now....
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That's lovely, Book
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Book, sending (((( hugs and comfort))))!!
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Book, I'm so glad you have an Auntie like that!!
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Book you have more than followed in Auntie L's footsteps, Hugs with both arms.
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Wonderful, book (((((((hugs)))))
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Book, my mom's been gone not quite four months. It's still quite unreal. Give yourself a lot of time to grieve. Cry whenever you feel the need. It's very natural to feel that way. I'm giving myself a year before I feel whole again. If I need longer, so be it. There's no timeline as you know. ((Hugs))
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My mother told me something verbatim, that she told me yesterday.

Then she lit a firestorm.  She started discussing marijuana and how it works in her words, "a lot of people".  When I reminded her that it is not a cure-all for cancer, or epilepsy.  She kept brow-beating me.  Saying it works for a lot of people.  Then I reminded her of a friend of mine with epilepsy, who tried it, and it just made her sick.  My mother kept going on about it helping people, ignoring what I said.  She didn't stop until, I said I would smash the front door, and flatten anyone who tried to force it on me.

She even got my medication wrong along with the dates that it changed.
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Intervention here, Chris....until your friends on AC can show up to help you.
Take a trip outside, ten -30 minutes. Calm yourself.
Those are just words, coming from a difficult person, who may no longer have capacity to manage your medications.
Go outside, now, inspect the yard, chill. You are not wrong. You are right, and no one can force you to take a med or marijuana if you refuse.
No violence needed.
Stay safe.
Call 911 if you cannot calm yourself.
Come back in and talk about it.
See you in 30 minutes?
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Hello
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What's happening with you, Chris516?
Deep breaths, 3x.
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Hey Chris,
Everything okay?
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Goodnight Chris516....
Tomorrow is a day
like no other day
has ever been
or will be again.
Sleep well.
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Chris516, are you able to get away from her nagging about marijuana? Does your bedroom have a lock that .. one that she cannot unlock? When it gets too much, just tell her No. And if she continues to nag you about it, that you're going to your bedroom for privacy. Then do it. Lock it and full blast your tv/radio. While inside, why don't you surf the web (this site?) or read a book. Whatever to distract you from her. .. and keep doing this- every time she brings up the subject... I don't know any other way to avoid her nagging about your med solutions... without literally leaving the home.
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