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Yes book, the estate pays all related expenses -- while the estate is open. Should estate funds run out while the estate is still open, it is solely the executor's responsibility to keep current on bills and expenses. Out of his own pocket. That's (one of the reasons) why being executor is an enormous responsibility.

Many folks glady accept the role of executor (or persuade a parent to choose him/her), thinking it's their big chance to be in charge and boss around the other heirs. That's certainly possible, if the executor is selfish and disrespectful.

But being executor is, ultimately, a role of extreme fiscal responsibility. This sometimes comes as a rude awakening to the ad-hoc dictator.
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I have the same problem my father in law is in late stages and he is always on the go in the house. I go to use the restroom and he's gone I have to lock everything that pertains to food up because he will eat it all but he does not gain weight. He is constantly having me to run after him I am almost 60 yrs old and take care if my dad also who has a brain tumor. I am so tired.
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Having my daily tussle with my wife about her demanding to go see her parents both of whom have been dead for over 40 years. Says she has new information that her parents caskets were empty when they were lowered into their graves.
Other than that the play was fine sayeth Ms Lincoln.
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Fisherman, welcome to the "YOU" thread. Are you home with your wife every day, giving her daily care? Or are there some paid caregivers or other family help that comes in to give you a break? It's such a tough spot you're in. I hope you'll keep posting and get support. This thread is all about giving caregivers, past and present, support in their lives.

Same to you, dbrooks. Stick around and post and vent as needed. Some caregiving situations aren't readily "fixable" and that's probably when we need support the most, when there's no end in sight.

Wanted to say welcome as I haven't seen either or you post on Aging Care before. I hope you stick around and get the support and understanding you need.
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welcome dbrooks and fisherman

dbrooks - fatigue seems to be a way of life with caregiving. Be sure to build in something for you, somehow. It sounds like you have too much on your shoulders. Could either dad go into a facility?

fisherman - great that you have not lost your sense of humour. Booth aside, I hope you get some breaks during the day/week.
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My dad who is one hundred has kidney cancer which metastasized to the lung.I own a small business which requires long hard hours. I just di 120 straight twelve plus hour days in a row. During this stretch my sister covered for me with my parents. She was there twice a week. My season just ended and I am back to every day at my parents much like I did last year. I had told my dad that I couldn't be there every day and needed a break. I just got a phone call from him and got cursed out because I didn't go there today. My dad is not a good patient and doesn't listen to directions. He is on a heavy narcotic for coughing,but insists on having a martini. Consequently he fell and sustained a concussion. He was told what not to do,but did it anyway with the symptoms getting worse because of his actions. . I am on the receiving end of his anger. I am tired of it.
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Oh Jim I feel for you. This weekend my hubs cousin ( who is 65, divorced and knows everything while he cant live it) gave my mom some "advice"  .. And I got my butt chewed out that evening. Then I come home tonight and she gave my hubs heck while he was takeing her to the bank, etc. why don't they see what we do out of love, and also that we need to take care of ourselves? She also does what she wants, and the rest of be danged! Good luck! I know I am beginning to wear out sometimes.. my latest advice to hubs is "just DO it,, its not worth the fight!"
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Sometimes when they get to a certain age they don't even see us as people with needs anymore. They can still see us as young even when our hair is gray and we're on Medicare. Jim, I know you get tired. It would be nice to hear that they appreciate what we do, instead of hearing anger about why we don't do more. I know you don't want to upset your father at this late date. I hope it helps to vent some of the frustration here. I have a feeling that you've been on a long road.

Pam, I say the same thing as your husband does. I must let things go every hour because it isn't worth the fight. I have probably become the most passive person in the northern hemisphere. Sigh.
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Thank you Pam and Jessie. It has been a long road indeed. I love my parents, but my dad can be a trying individual. He is impatient beyond belief. He thinks doctors should be able to give him a quick fix for whatever ails him at the moment. He won't change his ways and wonders why a med isn't working. For instance he has reflux which in his case causes a persistent cough. Certain foods trigger it yet he won't stop eating them. He is on a very strong med for the lung cancer and was told no alcohol yet he still has a drink before dinner. I believe this played a part in him falling and sustaining a concussion. His nurse and myself explained the do's and don'ts for concussions. He calls me at work complaining of a raging headache so I leave and take him to the ER finally getting home around 2:00 AM. What he failed to mention was that he sat five feet from a television set to it's highest volume for close to twelve hours. Today he insisted he wants to see his doctor. When we get there he will be mad because he has to wait and will get quite vocal about it. Then when we get to an exam room he will carry on even more because he has to wait. I have been awake since two in the morning stressing out over what this day will bring.
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Oh Jim I will pray and be thinking of you ! I'm so sorry your going through this. My mom broke her pelvis and back. She was a Sunday school teacher for 50 years and has dementia and MY goodness the crazy things that came out of her mouth in the hospital. Yep at the Dr. s office later too. Impatient. Whew! Hang in there!
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Jim Pam's advice is correct "Just do it" and let the rest be tuned out. The old man is not going to change at this late hour and i can't say i blame him. He is suffering from a life ending disease and knows that even if he follows Dr's orders to the letter he is not going to get better.
So if he finds comfort in martini before dinner it probably stimulates his appetite so be thankful he is actually eating and hopefully getting protein into his tired old body.
Hard for you to watch and endure but he is a big boy and making his own decisions is his right even if they are poor choices.
My FIL had numerous heart related problems and was supposed to eat a fat free diet, but every morning he had a fried breakfast of eggs, bacon and sausages. When challenged he said that at his age, almost 90 he had the right to treat his own body the way he pleased and he enjoys his fried breakfast
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Dbrooks and Fisherman, both of you are constantly battling with your super-hyper loved ones. I tried to recall the times mom kept walking and walking in circles for hours. It was exhausting, she wasn't. My dad took her to the doctor and Rx Haldol. Mom sat for hours with a blank face. Dad took her off it.

Fisherman, I don't even know how one can respond to your wife's new information about her parents. That's a first. A very unusual conclusion. Was your wife's former occupation a writer? I guess just vent here of your frustrations.
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Jim, when I read here on the websites of caregivers like yourself dealing with their parents' beliefs about their different ailments (real or not) and their desire to go see the doctor, I always cringe. I've always hated going to the ER or clinic.. the long wait, having to use the restroom, and dealing with their behaviors in public. (My dad's mouth had no filter.). I just cringe. It's so foreign to me because my dad was the opposite. Trying to get him to the doctor was close to impossible....
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Taking my car to the shop - recall on the airbags.

Fave sis invited me to the afternoon BBQ and said I can spend the night. I was startled. I completely forgot that I can spend the nights away from home! I was so excited. Until I immediately remembered her house has spirits. They watch me when I walk the narrow hallway to the bathroom. At nights, they're also in the bathroom. The bedrooms don't like it when I enter it alone. It's fine as long as one of my sis and her kids are in the same room with me. I realized that I will be sleeping in the spare bedroom all..by...myself! I'm bringing my big night lamp (no dinky light), flashlight and lantern.... and a part of me, most of it, tells me Not to spend the night.... I spoke to oldest sis who sees spirits. I told her of my senses when I'm at sis house. Oldest sis shuddered and mumbled, "I wouldn't." ... The spirit might follow me home. It's happened before. Several times...
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Jim, when your dad wants to go to the doctor or ER, call the Dr's office first and ask for a callback.

Just because your parent "wants" to go doesn't make it a good idea.
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Barb, you are so right. My mother wants to go to the hospital a lot. Before I do anything, I find out what the problem is and figure out what the best thing to do is. Usually we don't need to do anything. The problem is something that can be attended to at home or goes away on its own. If something really is wrong, then a call to the doctor or a trip to urgent care usually is enough. It's a lot cheaper and a lot faster than the ER, and a lot less hectic.
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Happiest course is so funny when taking the short quizzes. I'm obviously not paying attention to the videos because I seem to keep getting the wrong answers.... Question if Prof Raj cousin will choose which options at the salad bar. Response: This should not be selected.... You clearly underestimate Prof Raj's family's money-mindedness!.... They put some fun into this course. I'm going to try to figure out how to download those videos! .. So far, I've been taking Screenshots on the videos main points and pasting it on my Word Document files. I type a few words about the screenshots.

If a Genie was to grant you 3 wishes, what would you wish for? I pondered that question. My answers are financial security, good health and to be satisfied with my life..... On their survey, it was money, fame/success and relationship.

After comparing my wishes vs the survey, it made me wonder: Does our caregiving experience affected our wishes?
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Bookluvr, glad you are taking quizzes and that means the "spirits" didn't get You last night!
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Sorry, BootShop, I was chicken. I turned down sis' offer to spend the night. She actually told me that her spirits are friendly (compared to the ones in my dad's house). I said, yea! Because you're the family! I'm the outsider. I even tried to ask oldest sis if she's interested in spending the night at other sis' home. Oldest said no. I refuse to sleep alone in a bedroom that gives me the spook. And the hallway and the bathroom. I did Not even tell younger sis 'maybe next time.' My imagination will go crazy and scare myself silly.

You know my grown up niece from Colorado visited last year. I gave her my bedroom to sleep in since I slept in the Livingroom with bedridden dad. One night, after she used the restroom, my bedroom door was locked. Yet, when I turned the knob, it opened. Niece had this shocked look on her face. I walked into my bedroom and told the spirits that she's not moving into my bedroom. She's just visiting, Visiting. That she will be leaving soon. So leave her alone. After that, she was never locked out again.... later, her mom told me that her daughter said that if she ever visit us again, she's going to stay in a hotel.

Anyway, after that, same niece visited that haunted hotel that was used in the scary movie 'Shining'. I was curious and asked if she felt the spirits there. She said no. She definitely felt the spirits here on island but nothing at that hotel.
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Downloaded 1 video that I THOUGHT would go to the DVD. It downloaded. I just can't find where it went. Definitely not in the CD. Or anywhere. Too tired to think. Time to sleep. Midnight.
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There's a link for the daily journal... for gratefulness, etc.. I downloaded it several times but it won't let me write on it. I am so technically-challenged, it's ridiculous. I give up. I will write it the old fashioned way - composition notebook.

On another subject, my dad's brother still has his mind but is having mobility problems. His wife was visiting her daughter (Uncle's stepdaughter) when she had problems with her dialysis. Anyway, daughter-from-mainland and her mom (Uncle's wife) arrived and checked into a hotel. She didn't even call her stepfather to tell him that they're here on island.... well, I heard she started cleaning out her stepfather's living area. He told my brother that she threw away his 3 Hawaiian print shirts hanging by the door, threw away a lot of his stuff. They even moved the TV mounted on the wall and it's now facing upwards with the ceiling watching the TV. I was getting so upset. They're from off island and treat him like that - without any respect for him, his home, his belongings. While bro and SIL went on about his being disrespected, I tried very hard not to say, 'before you throw rocks to others, check yourself first.'
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Yesterday started out as a good day and quickly spiraled downward. I get to my parents house around nine AM. They are just getting up. My dad tells me to call the girl that cleans their home and cancel. Then he tells me to make them breakfast. He doesn't like how I am doing theirmuffins so he grabs them from me. My mother is in the other room sobbing away because she doesn't wan the girl to clean the house, mind you I have already called. My mother has some dementia and is deaf. She will not wear a hearing aid. I then have to run to the store. Upon returning my dad informs me he can't urinate. I call VNA to see if I should take him to the ER or wait for a nurse. A nurse and aid arrive about an hour later and get him ready to put in a catheter. While doing so he is yelling at me to get a tablecloth . I have no idea where they have them as I haven't lived at home for forty years. Now he is in a rage and says get the damn table from the den. Table and tablecloth are two different things. At any rate they gave him a med to relax before putting in the catheter which had him sleep for about eight hours . Through all of this my mother is sobbing away saying this is too much. I said to her we have been begging you both to let VNA aids come in and help and you both say no. The nurse has asked them both and as I said before my father points and says that is what he is for. They don't really get to see his nasty side. I ended up staying all day and night. I just got back home expecting my sister to go over this morning. That would be too much to ask of her. She spent the night with friends and says she is busy today. I guess it is back to my parents again. What a life.
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Jim, your day sounds like torture. It does sound like they need a professional assistant to come in, maybe for a few hours a day. I know you would love to see that happen to get some stress off yourself. Caregivers shouldn't have to go through what you went through. Getting scolded and disrespected made it all so much worse.
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JimL, I've tried several times to respond to your post. I ... it resonates within me, with my past. I think it's with juggling with both parents at the same time. Being yelled at. Putting up with it because no one else will step up to help them. Their refusal for help... I just don't know what to say. Just do what you can, let the yelling not affect you (eyes rolling), etc... Vent, vent, vent. At least you have the home care - where the nurses can come to the home. That's definitely a great big Plus in this situation.

My dad had a stroke, bedridden (refused to do therapy because 'it hurts'), and used Depends (refused to leave the bed). One day, he could no longer pee. So, the home care nurse came over, along with the doctor, and got dad onto a catheter... I still remember the horror of both the nurse and the doctor when I asked how do we empty the bag? Do I disconnect from here and empty the bag in the toilet? No! No! Take a container and let the urine out of the bag. How? Where? ..... Anyway, months go by, and dad decides he no longer needs the catheter. He INSISTED they take it off. The nurse tried to explain to him that he needs the catheter because he cannot pee. He insisted - off! So, the nurse did. Hours later, I'm changing dad's pamper. His lower stomach is hard! Not soft. I didn't know why. Then an hour later, he's writhing in pain. He needs to pee but can't. I call the 24/7 number. The clinic is closed and the nurse cannot get the catheter supply. Dad will need to wait until morning. Let's just say.. my dad learned the hard way that he cannot take off the catheter....
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This response is not meant for anyone in particular. Just a general answer. I look back at my care giving days. One husband and one partner. It grew me and made me stronger. It taught me patience and gave me the ability to share with both the choices and the result of those choices in their lives. After death whats next? If you are fortunate and looking for it, you too will be blessed as I was. Sure I became tired and put my life on hold. However, I would do it all over again. I know the stress, the stories repeated. The fun stories were when I decided to get the obituary ready. Since I knew most of the family and knew some of both their pasts, I was able to ask them to talk about the people in their lives. I learned more about WWII than you will ever read in a book. My husband was a writer and I have tons of writings based on his life. Both knew poverty and hunger. Both came from highly disfunctional families. I only have one request for my last few hours. First, I ask God to take me before I suffer any memory difficulties. Second, I want all my children and grandchildren with me. The chance of this happening is slim. But, I can ask right? If you are struggling with caregiving and resentment is growing in you due to the endless hours and dirty work, I highly recommend, you pass this Blessing over to another family member. One last moment that I will share with you. My husbands last words, " He is beautiful. He is Good" and then he closed his eyes. My husband was a Born Again Christian.
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Things have taken a turn for the worse. My dad is so weak he is bedridden . The nurse feels his body is beginning to shut down. He is not in pain. I have had many months to prepare for the inevitable, but my mother also 100 with both cancer and dementia is making things very difficult for me. She is also deaf and can't see well either. My dad's wishes were to remain home,but my mother doesn't want anyone in the home and be very difficult in that respect. She chased her entire Hospice team out. I don't know what to do ,follow my dad's wishes or move him to a care facility to placate my mother. I am stressed beyond belief.
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Jim, your dad wants to die at home. Understandable. However, your mom cannot handle the nurses hanging around the house because it forces her to face reality that 'nurses = death.' She would prefer your father to be not at home when he passes away. You're between a rock and a hard place. Wouldn't your father find it more peaceful in a facility? I think you need to weigh the pros and cons on what is best for your father and his comfort care.
If you do decide to do decide on the facility, bring some of your dad's favorite things (blanket, etc..).
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Oh Jim I'm sorry you are having such a hard time. I'd want to keep Dad at home if that was his wish and you really think it's getting toward the end. But I don't know what to do about your Mama. Somebody will come along with a better answer but know I feel for you! See Bookluvr already did.
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Thank you all for your thoughts. I just had a long conversation with the nurse. She said to do what I think is best. She felt my dad is failing fast and it won't be long, a few days at best. He is comfortable and not in any pain. We have an aid coming in a half hour. We shall see how my mother reacts. If she acts adversely then I will need to address it quickly. Wish me luck.
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I am glad your Dad is comfortable and free of pain. I hope the aid works out. Just said a little prayer for your family!
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