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Sunnygirl, I once mentioned this here. I almost go ran over several times. From what I understand from those who have driven those carts - it's Not like driving a car. After reading that, I now avoid those scooter/cart drivers. I never assume anymore that they know how to drive it.
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Sunny and Book,
Those carts are a nightmare to drive. Try one sometime. Sometimes you can't get through the displays. people push their carts out in front of you. the cars thems self run out of battery life , they may simply stop on their own. People browse the shelves leaving their carts in the middle of the aisle, two neighbors stop their carts to catch up on gossip. Other cart users, usually 600lb older men stare you down and expect you to give way. Now when yu get to the checkout the checkers are usually extremely helpful. They may unload the basket then reload it and offer carry out. and load the car. They really are a mixed blessing but for now i cant walk that far.
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Veronica91, have you checked out ordering your groceries online? My SIL's mother does it at Walmart. I think you order online, tell them when you'll pick it up and then they bring it out to your car. I may try it, though, I am able bodied right now. But, it saves time. In larger cities, you may also be able to have the groceries delivered to your home. I haven't done that either, because, I don't live in the city right now.

When I was leaving in the parking lot yesterday, the young lady was helping her dad get into their vehicle. He seemed to be far away mentally. I think his issue may have been more mental. I really hope she saw what happened and takes measures to limit him driving in a store. It's just not safe, imo.
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I can endorse ordering groceries online from Walmart. Here we get delivery, for $10.00, but are restricted to dry goods, cans etc, no fresh or frozen, but it still helps to have heavy and bulky stuff delivered to your door. I know other centers offer more and pick up at the store. Recently I had a broken jar in my order and they refunded right away after I sent photos.
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They came today. My usual unannounced visitors. They tried to pin me down to agreeing to socialize with them, to come to their home for a visit, to go to Sunday worship, etc... Why do I feel this way? How do you think God feels about that? .... I started crying in front of them. I Do Not Cry in front of people (not even family.) They just keep pushing and pushing. And I sooooo am fed up with doing OBLIGATIONS. I spent 25 years with my Obligations to my parents. I swore, that when this was done, No More Obligations! ... And they are trying to reel me back into my Religious Obligations. .. I cracked and started crying. In front of them. And all the way to the end, I absolutely refused to agree to go out to dinner/lunch or anything.... They tried to find out what I do in my Free Time! I was very vague.... Do you watch tv? No. What do you do now. I just shrug, no answer. ... I know how they think. If I give a specific answer, they will work on it until it's not a reasonable answer. {{shudder}} I feel like a gold fish in a small bowl with a cat looking down, staring at me, waiting to pounce on me. I'm swimming around and around frantically with nowhere to hide. ... Don't answer - so that they cannot use it against me....

I am not going back. I just have to remind myself that I promised to try to be strong and courageous this year. Remind myself about no more obligations... I'm done venting.... Until next weekend or the next .. when they drop by unannounced...
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Agreeing to go to their dinner because you were pressured and they wouldn't leave until you said yes doesn't mean you are "obligated" to follow through. Don't go, simple as that.
What does the rest of your family think of these people and your former religion? Could any of them help?
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bookluvr,

The next time they show up, don't let them inside of the house. If they refuse to leave tell them you are going to call the police.
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Our family believes in each person making their own decisions. When these visitors dropped by and I'm not home, they leave messages for me with them. My family usually 'forgets' to relay the message. Teacher niece warned me this morning that they dropped by yesterday. So, I knew they were coming again.

As for my former religion. It's a mess. I didn't realize how political religion can be within! There's the traditional vs the neo. And well... there's a huge scandal right now of priests raping the altar boys several decades ago. It all started when a cousin found out that his cousin was raped by @#!*... and so he went to the news and outed the @#!* Nobody believed him and verbally attacked him. Raped cousin former altar boy refused to say anything.. After that, the floodgates opened. Other men started stepping forward saying that he was raped, too.... Nope, not going there! =)

It's fine, Cwillie. Today's event just pushed me to make a decision. And I did.
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Cmag, I'm trying to be courageous and strong. To do what you say is logical. But my .. timidness is hard to overcome. The last time I hid from them, every time they called my name, my chest was hurting. I found it very stressful to hide from them, and them knowing that I'm inside hiding. I'm working on it, though. I keep reminding myself the promises I made. {{chuckling}} I Did think of that, too!!!
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It is good that you are being strong about this. I thought of two more things. 1. Put a No Trespassing sign on your property. 2. See if a judge would award you a restraining order against people from that religion for they are harassing you and making you feel afraid inside your home. I wish you the best as you deal with this.
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book - I am having to be very firm with a neighbour who keeps coming back. I don't let her in, and the last time she came I refused to take an envelope she wanted to give me, and told her I wanted her off my property and to stay off. Previously I had told her to let me alone, but apparently she did not get that message. No trespassing and calling the police may have to be the next move.

Good call cmag!
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Bookluvr, my goodness, your experience sounds horrible. I'm not sure how I would have handled uninvited, unannounced, unwelcome guests who try to bully me to entertain them or join them for worship.....but, it wouldn't be pretty. I'd be curt and likley have told them that I would not be able to visit and that prearranging things works best for me.

I haven't had family do that kind of thing, but, I have had friends do something similar. I'm no longer friends with them.

I'm not big on organized religion, but, I do consider myself spiritual and I recently started attending a church of my choice that I enjoy attending. This place has good people, low key, no bullying or insanity. That's important in a church, imo. ( I grew up in one that was evil. I'm not kidding.)

I hope you can find some peace. I'm curious as to how it turns out. (Why won't they leave you alone)
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I don't really know what you can do. Are these native people or are they incomers?
You could just go to the door and tell them you are no longer interested in associating with them and please remove you from their list of worshipers. Please do not come to my house again. Since my father's death i am now head of the household and if you come on my property again I will have to call the police and obtain a restraining order against you and you collegues.
If you can't do this face to face just write them a letter resigning from their church.
If all else fails ask your favorite spirit to break a couple of legs next time they turn up.
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Ah, Veronica, my nephew (who sometimes sees spirits in mirrors) told me that I shouldn't give the spirits permission to hurt any trespassers in our land. He said that there can be some dangerous consequences.... When the new low cost apartment was built next door to bro, the people had absolutely no problem strolling way into our land without permission, and started picking our mango. When I came home and saw these strangers picking mango from our back yard (!), I told them that they have no right to pick our mangos, they're trespassing and to leave. They just looked at me and continued to pick. I didn't call the police - over what? Mangos?...

So, I decided to turn to the land spirit and gave them permission to hurt any outsiders snooping or taking things without permission. I said that it can make them so sick that no white man's medicine can cure them. The only solution was for these intruders to ask it (the spirit) for forgiveness. ... After nephew's lecture, I no longer ask the spirits to hurt people. Or scare them.
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I was off today. I was planning to leave the house at 8:45am, timing it to when the bank opens at 9. I was taking my sweet time getting ready. Listening to my audio ebook as I lazily did my routine. 8:10am, I suddenly realized that I was going to have 'unexpected' visitors just after 8:30. I stood there debating to listen to my guts. That lasted only 5 seconds. I was like Speedy Gonzales. Grabbed my ice coffee and fled out the door by 8:18. Didn't know where to go until the bank opens. So, I just parked my car, turned it off, roll down the windows a teeny tiny bit, and listened to my ebook.... sigh..

I still haven't received my 20% copayment billing for my endoscopy and colonoscopy in August. I have the $1,000.00 set aside for it. I keep eyeing it. I really don't want to touch that money and then the bill comes in. Anyway, whatever is leftover after the bill comes in, will be going to my emergency fund.
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Good job skedaddling book.
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Those spirits are tricky things Book
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Book,
If you want to find out exactly what will be due without alerting billing, call youd insurance company.
I think doctors and lawyers think it is okay to bill a year later. They do think that, and do bill later, so you are very wise to save that money. But try not to worry or think too much about it.
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Book, you should have received insurance contracted rate for the procedure. Maybe nothing is actually due.?
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Glad, I giggled at 'skedaddling'. Oh, my gosh, I rarely hear words like that nowadays. I was reading an E-book and the author used an old slang that I had used here on AC. I paused and stared at the words. I don't know. I just get a kick out of using old slangs/terminology.... Skedaddling! =)

At consultation before surgery, they gave me a paper with the total cost for each procedure and my 20% copayment. They said that they will first process it through my insurance. Then, they will bill me the balance. Okay, I will wait and try not to look at my online balance.
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Funny Book! I will have to see if I can come up with others.😁

I had to check the spelling, don't know if I have ever read or written it before. 😂
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I am back to seek some guidance from everyone, My dad passed away last September. I stayed with my mom through the end of October,but finally told her I needed to get back home. We gave her three options at that time,either live with us, assisted living ,or remain at home with help. We built a room in our home because she chose that option. That lasted two days with her demandingto return to her home. I have a girl that goes in to help her four mornings a week. My mom will not allow anyone else in to help. I take care of all her finances,the house and yard,do all her shopping, with my sister sometimes helping out. I know seniors often have issues with letting people in to help them. My mother is becoming more demanding by the day,often calling me by my father’s name. She expects me to be over there all the time,to do the shopping everyday like my dad did,etc. She cannot break out of the mourning phase, just sitting with the tv blaring away crying. I have suggested that she see a professional to help ,but she refuses. Her latest ploy is to now tell me she is afraid being alone in the house. I know she is attempting to get me to move back. I again have gone through the options from above, none of which suit her. Yesterday I told her I could make an appointment to go over and see the assisted living facility next week. Her response was I am not in the mood. The next thing she says is you wouldn’t let me go before which wasn’t tru. I said the cost was prohibitive and that we would need to sell the house . She is also very deaf and refuses to wear her hearing aid which is causing issues as well. She hears voices and lately screams at them to stop talking to her. The doctor is aware and told her wearing the hearing aid would help,but she won’t listen. I own a seasonal business and am now getting ready to open. Once open I work seven days a week until early fall. I have to do something as I won’t be available to be at her beck and call. My sister provides very little help so that isn’t an option. I am stressed out and losing sleep. My mother can be very difficult and used that for years to get her way with my dad. Sorry if I am repeating myself, but I just don’t know what to do. I have power of attorney. I don’t know if that allows me to make the decision on her living situation. Ideally her staying home with help would be my first choice,but given her stand on that ,assisted living seems to be the best option. What say you all ? Thanks.
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Assisted living is the best option.

If being firm with your mother doesn't work, you might have to look at using your POA to force a mental competence assessment and going for guardianship. But with a bit of fast talking and nimble footwork on your part it shouldn't come to that.

Your mother's bereavement (and yours) is recent. For you, life has gone on. For her, she doesn't have anything else to go on with. She does need more diverse input and she will, if she doesn't already, need the continuous care of a facility if she is to get past this terrible phase of her life, even if we ignore the possibility of dementia.

It's a guess, but I'm going to bet that if you do role-play your father just to the extent of being firm and decisive about this move, you will actually give your mother huge reassurance. You'll relieve her of complex decisions that many of us would struggle with at the best of times, and you'll be someone she can lean on to see her safe and cared for.

Legally, as things stand, you can't make her do anything - your POA cannot override her wishes unless she is found to be mentally incapacitated. But practically and emotionally, I think she'll be glad if you do take over. Just don't expect her to thank you straight away.
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Thank you. I have taken over pretty much all aspects of her care. I believe there is some dementia involved although she handles the daily things pretty well. I never know from day to day what I will see. I am always hoping there will be some improvement in her general demeanor, but then I find her doing the same things. I know it’s hard for her and I am not saying don’t mourn. I think of my dad everyday. I miss him. I have so many other responsibilities. I will adopt some of the things you said and see if they help. I just want her safe and comfortable. I don’t see her breaking out of the pattern she is in. Old school I think. I can remember growing up the old Greek women who lost a spouse would carry on forever,almost to the point of hysteria. I thank you for your thoughts.
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Jim, I hope it works out for you. Maybe a lot of twitching here and there to fit the situation. Definitely can't help your mom with your current work schedule. No comments about sis not really helping much. I had my share with 7 siblings. It was just me and my dad all these years taking care of my mom. My caregiving experiences are totally different from yours. My mom's mental health was one of the first to be affected. It was like a 360 degree personality change.
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When I was caregiving, I rarely got sick. And if I did, it never stopped me from going to work or have an 'off' from hands-on caregiving. So, I didn't have time to be sick. I couldn't afford it. Now, that I no longer am a caregiver, I get sick sooooo very fast! Remember the last coughing flu I had in August, after my dad's burial? I had pulled an upper chest muscle?

A few days ago, I was craving chicken soup. So, I had it for lunch on Thursday. By Friday late afternoon, my throat was hurting. Friday night, it was screaming in pain. This morning at work, I felt the urge to cough. Oh no! After leaving the office at 12:30pm, I went to the grocery store. Bought 2 Tussim DM Max cough medicine, Ricola cough drops, Cepacol (never tried this but sis' doctor recommended it to her), 1 box of chicken broth, 2 can of chicken veg soup.

The bag 'boy' was an older man (maybe age 84?). He took one look at me and said that he would help me carry my 1 recycle bag of grocery for me. I told him no need. I can carry it. He insisted. In the meantime, I was telling the cashier a humorous incident I had on mistakenly putting my bought grocery in a box (instead of bags). By the time I got to the car, I reached into the cart, (and I mimicked bending over and my hands reaching down) to pick up the box. I then said it was so heavy, I couldn't even pick it up! (I did the jerky motion of trying repeatedly to lift the box.) .. The young cashier (in her 20's) burst out laughing so hard. =)

On the way to my car, the elderly gentleman & I walked. We were both talking to one another as if we've known each other. (Ahem, never met him before. He's a new bag 'boy'.) When I reached into my purse to give him a tip, he was so fast to move away from me and refused it. I left that grocery store with a wide smile. The cashier and the bag 'boy' just made my day.
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There comes a time when you have to stand up for your own life and sanity.

Jim, make an appointment with a geriatric psychiatrist for your mom. Take her to lunch and then to the appointment. Don't ask her. Don't tell her before. Just take her.

It's very hard for some of us to get out of the mode of asking our parent's permission and seeking their approval.

At this point, you have to do what you know is best for her and you.

I would also make appointments to see ALs. Don't ask. Tell her.
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It's true! What Barb says. I learned the hard way not to ask my dad. He almost always chose the answer I didn't want to hear. So, I learned from here on AC, to give him options. I was very firm, no wheedling or begging in my tone. Hence, when he became bedridden, he was no longer 'the man of the house.' I had to step up and take over everything. We butted heads for months. Even bedridden, he tried to punch me. At least it was my chest and no longer my face/head. Eventually, he caved in. He was resentful that I took over the reins. But, he's bedridden, no longer mentally fit enough to understand financial ramifications, etc... He was still sharp mentally but .. his reasoning was a bit.. skewed. Okay, as time went by, it was getting very skewed.

I felt bad that I took the rein of power from him. I never forced him to do what he didn't want. I've tried reasoning, bribing, and even calling 911, APS, elder law attorney, etc.. all told me that as long as my dad was competent, then they will not interfere. So... I learned to be sneaky, and praised him when he made the 'right' decision. He always appreciated that. Just as I always appreciated his 'thank you'.

You can offer to take her 'strolling'. Or offer to take her out to lunch and just happen to drop by the AL.
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I have a terrible sinus head pressure. I'm breathing okay from my nose. I'm not stuffy. I don't feel stuffy. But at nights, when my head touches the pillow, excruciating headaches when I try to sleep on my sides. This morning, I woke up from the throbbing headache. I was on my back. Oh no! I bought a healthy honey (1st time to try it) from a health store. Last week, I mixed it with apple cider vinegar and water - drank it all day at work. On Saturday morning, severe head pain and ringing of the ear. Ugh! I'm allergic to That specific honey. Tonight, I stopped by the grocery store and bought my usual generic honey. I'm currently drinking the honey-ACV-water. Ooooh... my sinus started draining down my throat. Yuck, it was so thick. Later on tonight, I will just use plain water to steam my face. (Previously tried Echinacea oil, and Vick's VapoRub - .. I reacted negatively to both). And just before bedtime, I will use hot/cold compresses on my face, do a facial massage, then sleep... Keeping my fingers crossed!
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Booklover, I've been having horrible sinus problems too lately. Post nasal drip, a dry nose with horrible scabs in my upper nostrils which bleed and then I blow my nose to get rid of them and they just keep reforming. I feel pressure in my face and ears all the time too. It has not been a fun winter at all. I find when I take any cold medicine there is always some kind of rebound effect which just make my symptoms worse. I have tried the facial massage which helps a bit.
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