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My sympathies to your Mom's caregiver, MsMadge.
She needs to get a copy of an incident report.
Is there such a thing as combat pay for caregiver's?

Was she able to complete her shift?

Are you calm about it?

~~~HUGS~~~
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Thanks, Send
I feel quite badly and a couple of weeks ago I raised up a concern about this resident to a nurse who was not on staff last night -
I plan to speak to the social worker about the incident as his behavior was escalating during the afternoon and dinner

This is mom's best caregiver with years of experience and she was taking it quite well - even said better her than a visitor - I'm so grateful she did not fall and hit her head

I was still at work when I got the call and left immediately - she was sitting with an ice pack on her cheek with mom when I got there

She is with mom now and I will bring them lunch a bit and see how she is doing
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Today my mother in law is not too bad. It was a low key day for her without any commotion. On the other hand my mother was causing a lot of problems. Two days ago my wife and I had taken our dogs for a walk. When we came back we decided to watch a movie with our grandson. I forgot my phone in my coat pocket so on my way to bed I thought of it. I looked at the screen and there were eight calls from my mother. I called back and got no answe4 so I figured she had gone to bed. She has my house number as well as my kids. I talked with her the next morning and she made no mention of it. I took her to an eye appointment at noon and then was with her for the next five hours. I came home for dinner at five thirty. We were having our daughter and a friend over. At about eight thirty my phone rings. It is my mother frantically saying when are you picking me up and that her neighbors had abandoned her. I said what are you talking about. She was crying so I left dinner to get her. When I arrived I asked her what was wrong and she says nobody wants me. Now I was confused. I said to her I have been with you every single day since my dad passed in September. I do all her shopping,take her to appointments, take care of her house,and pay all her bills. We built a room in our home for her. At any rate I brought her back to my house. I said to her in the morning please don’t tell me to take you home again. I have work to catch up on. I will be happy to take you home at lunchtime. I was up early and started my work and sure enough our aid watching my mother in law yells to me your mother wants to leave now. Down I come to see my mother sitting with a pout on. I get her coat on and pick up her stuff. Out the door we go so I can get her in the car. She starts screaming she won’t get in the car until I start it to leave. I told her to get in and stop the nonsense. As we are driving back to her house I decide to broach the subject. I said this isn’t working. I am not at your beck and call. I said if you wish to remain home then you are going to have to accept help in the house. She went off at that point screaming nobody wants me and then yelling for my father to come back. This went on for more than a half hour. I reiterated that what she said was not true ,that I have been with you everyday, and we had invited her to live with us. When we arrived at her house she starts panicking saying where are you taking me ? She says I don’t recognize any of these houses and I say mom we are in your driveway. She w3nt in like this for a bit. I tried to explain my position and that I cannot live like this with her calling me late at night to come get her and then in the early morning having to take her back. She then got very angry with me. I told her I would not be back as I had to work the rest of the day. I am so stressed out right now. I can’t reason with her,can’t get her to accept help,and can’t get to live with us. I feel like she is manipulating me.
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Jim, you are letting her manipulate you. Establish boundaries and stick with them. As long as you keep bailing her out, treating her like a queen she will continue. It sounds as if assisted living, memory care is what would be the best for her and you.
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So mom's caregiver was feeling worse yesterday and her agency sent her to the doctor - they let me know tonight that she won't make her 2 hour shift in the morning - now the poor dear is losing wages

I spoke to the social worker today who claimed to not know what happened - the more the situation sits with me the angrier I get about hoca's response which as usual is underwhelming
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I just threw away three pairs of bloody underwear and gagged at his clothing and socks covered in dead skin. bf's kidneys are failing and he is itching/scratching all the time making himself bleed, his legs are swollen with edema, psoriasis and diabetes... Forgive me for typing such things, i had to let it out. next i have to tell him why i tossed his underwear instead of washing them. i just feel like crying.
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Worn out. Mom's crashed. She felt well enough to go to Sister 2's house, but had a horrible agitating time where she pointed at the ceiling calling out "Momma, Momma" and talked about her Uncle Albert. She was so weak, S2 called in S1 and a big male friend to move Mom back home and place her in her hospice hospital bed. She's been sleeping, with looks of pain, jerking. She asked me and S1 if we would look after her house and her belonging. She's barely drank or ate anything.

Hospice is coming soon to bring liquid Ativan and morphine to help her not jerk and for any pain she may have, and re-set the catheter that wasn't in her bladder. Sister 1 and I have worked to re-set up the living room for better activity around Mom and I got my first lesson is rolling over a 190-pound woman to strip her bedding and clothes and clean her. We're all in a vigil.
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micalost: Good for you for typing it out, gross as it was. A lot of us have gone through what you're going through. We're all here to support each other. {hug}
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Mica,
Others have done the same thing, thrown out biohazardous uderwear, sheets, etc.
When you replace them with new, it is at his expense, not yours.

Do you even have to tell him?

You are going to be okay, keep posting, there is no shame in sharing with your friends on here.

You have been heard, and your tears are understandable. ~~~huggies~~~!!!!
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MM and Mica, so sorry it's like this for you; I can hardly imagine, and hope not to find out... I'm an animal rescuer all these years, but people, not so much.   It's hard to wrap my head around the stuff you guys have to put up with and do. My hubby, the EMT, gets it; guess somebody has to... God bless all of you in the trenches!
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Spring is supposed to be here, and we are going to a wedding in sunny warm San Antonio next week,,, so today I got a pedi! And tomorrow my hair dealt with! It feels good to do something nice for myself. And Mom and Aunt are supposed to be staying for 6 WEEKS !! I'll believe this when it happens,, we got them open ended tickets but my cousins in Tx are planning to keep them busy and the end goal is a cousins son's graduation from law school,, so we shall see! I also booked our stay at a BNB owned by a famous Author who I love, and mom and hubs got this for me for Christmas.. and I am so excited! So wish me luck.. I am looking forward to all of it,, the wedding, family and a possible 6 week break for hubs and I....
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Have a great time Pam!
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thank you so much for the acknowledgment ((HUG)) I didnt tell him . Last night he gave himself too much insulin and had an event in the night and didnt wake me up - OMG. I could have awoken to him dead. cannot believe i am going through a stressful caregiving thing again after mom and dad! its going to get worse and worse - i have witnessed others... Breathe,,,, breathe..... Bed and Breakfast!! I gotta do that and go antiquing - thanks everyone , we shall prevail.
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mally1: Thank you for your encouragement! I love the folks here...

Warning graphic bodily function: Well, the education continues. Poor Mom has drank and eaten little in the past several days since all she does is sleep. Last bowel movement was Friday (she's normally like clockwork daily). So, six days later, today, she needed to go. Yay! So on the commode by her in-home hospital bed. In agony she strained, sweated, panted, cried out, quaked from shaking so hard, desperate to lay down while I held her and comforted her. Called hospice what to do to give her some relief. The nurse recommended an enema. (Oh, yay. I've heard of such a thing.) My niece was with me and she's worked in a nursing home. I raced to the store and raced back.

What a lesson in how to give one, which didn't work. She was in agony. Called Sister 2 who's now a funeral home director and has worked in a nursing home long time ago and very smart. She has a way with Mom that relaxes her. Ended up giving Mom another enema. An hour and half later from the start she had her movement. No wonder she was in such pain. I'm exhausted. Mom had soaked through a fresh housecoat. Actually, she's doing better than me! A relief for her and for me. The things we get to learn on this caregiving journey.
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Micah, MtnMoose - gross. One morning, I knew dad was touching his poop in his Depends because the room suddenly smelled awful. Sure enough, he had poop all over him and the bedding. I recalled posting here about it. I never did learn to 'go with the flow' when it came to that!

Pam, enjoy your trip! Wow, to stay at famous author's BNB!
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Yesterday, at the blood lab clinic, I met an elderly man with his wheelchair wife. They immediately reminded me of mom and dad. Dad would take mom in her wheelchair to the clinic. But we never let him go by himself. I or my brother would go with dad to help him with mom... Anyway, back to the lab, we sat and I did most of the talking. The lady on my right said she has to look away when they draw blood from her arm. I said I never had problem until the hospital nurse lost my vein and went fishing for it. When I said fishing for it, I used my right hand with the pointer finger poking my left inner arm and moved my finger back and forth as if searching for the vein.

My gut instinct told me not to go to this specific lab because the nurse is like new and draw blood painfully. But it was enroute to my drive to work. When I got there, she was doing an elderly woman. After 10 minutes, I whispered to the elderly man how long was she doing that woman. He said a long time. Woman done. Next was this big chunky man. I'm making conversations to pass the time. After 8 minutes, I whispered to the elderly man that the nurse is taking awfully long Per Patient! I had bloodworks done at my clinic on Tuesday and it was quick - not even 3 minutes. My eyes were wide because I'm scared of needles. This doesn't look good at all.

The man whispered back to me: "She couldn't find blood on his left arm. So, now she's trying his right arm.... and she must be fishing for the vein." That man then imitated my earlier actions of fishing for the vein.... I huffed at him, and then lightly whacked his arm. He was chuckling. Anyway, that nurse was scaring me. I got up, walked to the sign-in sheet and scratched off my name out. I told the elderly man that I'm going to try again the next morning at another location.... I did. And the nurse was a quick expert.
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Our island's nursing home is closing down. They're trying to figure out where to put the bedridden Alzheimer patients.

Our gov't caregivers are also closing. They were the ones who came to our house 4 times a week for one hour to bathe my bedridden father... Can you believe, the whole time my mom had dementia, and still walking - it was this govt caregiver showered mom for 2 decades. When mom was bedridden for over 13 years, I only Once ever sponge bathed her. When dad was bedridden for the 5 years, they showered him. I never had to do it.... And they're closing down!!! I need to buy a Thank You card and maybe some chocolate Macadamia nut candies and stop by their office.
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Book, closing?! Are there any other ways for the elderly to receive the care they need other than privately? Are they expecting family or friends to take over these responsibilities? What the heck!
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Yes, what on earth is going on, Book? Who's responsible for running these services?
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CM this is what happens when a govt runs out of money. Here in the US they are threatening to cut medicare and social security. If you want to know what happens in real life ask any Portorican if they have their electricity back yet and it has been more than six months since the hurricane. And our elected officials get gold plated healthcare for the rest of their lives
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I gather it's a bit more complicated in Book's location. For better and worse :(
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i just wanted to come in and thank you guys for the hugs and acknowledgment ... it was such a surprise right when i was stealing a second to cry. Thank you all.
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I know I haven't been that active lately.

I am on a statin for my blood pressure. As is my elderly mother.

She had a complete physical a few days ago. My mother's GP told her to cut back on her calories. Then my mother proceeded to tell me this info. But not in a 'passing along info' fashion. My mother has done this before. She read that statins can cause aches in the arms' n' legs'.

So, When I told her about feeling like my arm was going to collapse while on my bike. She immediately judged that to be the same kind of ache she was having, and felt justified in calling my GP.

I happen to hear her calling from the kitchen, while I was in the bathroom. I was absolutely livid upon hearing her say this to my GP's nurse. I immediately did my 'morning routine'(shower, get dressed, eat breakfast, brush teeth), and ran out of the house. I got on my bike wearing my bike camera and sped through PM-Rush traffic.

Upon reaching my GP's office. I surprised the nurse when I told her I heard the whole phone conversation from the bathroom. Despite the door being closed. I told the GP, that while my arm has ached at times, while on my bike. That is the only time.

I even showed the GP the video I had taken w/ my bike camera. On the way to his office. I proved to him that my elderly mother was really being irresponsible.
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Chris, I am sure your GP knows your mother well and would not take any action on her information without seeing you first.
I know it drives you mad but she is just being an over protective mother hen and does not want harm to come to the person she depends on the most.
She thinks as your mother she is careing for you but it is really a different reality
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Veronica, It is one thing to be over-protective. But what my mother did is beyond that.  She said her legs' n' arms' ached, saying that it was due to the statin since it is listed as one of the side affects.  But when she asked me if my legs' n' arms' were aching.  It was if she didn't even listen to me. I actually exploded because she refused to listen. I was descriptively(and visually) telling her. How I felt like my arm was going to collapse. She kept asking which arm. So she refused to pay attention. Then the next day she calls my GP, as if I had said 'yes', about my legs' n' arms' aching. When I never said 'yes'.  She persists in belittling me.  I have told family about my mother's declining mental health. But any concern I relay to the family is treated like it is a load of BS. There will eventually be a day. When she does something as a result of some form of dementia. That ends up having fatal consequences, not due to me i.e. driving somewhere and getting lost, forgetting how to use her cell phone, forgetting to turn the stove off, or forgetting how to get out of the house, in the event of a fire. 
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Chris, your mom has dementia, right?

Then don't engage in describing your symptoms, even when asked. Empathize with her symptoms. " No mom, I don't have that. But it must be awful for you. You should talk to the doctor about your pain".
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Chris, I agree with Barb. If she has dementia, her brain is not functioning properly. She does not have the capacity to understand and listen at the level you expect. You are upsetting yourself over something she is not capable of doing. Exploding at her is not helping either one of you. Walk away from these confrontations. Ignore her questions. She is not going to magically realize and understand how she makes you feel. You cannot change how she acts or what she says. You can only change your response to her behavior.
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Chris,
How is it that your Mother can even talk to your doctor about you?
There are privacy HIPPA laws, and unless you have given your permission to your doctor in writing, for her to discuss you, the doctor cannot.

There are special circumstances and exceptions, I realize that.
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-Barb, I looked 'dementia' up. It is actually an 'umbrella' term for a whole host of mental health issues. From Alzheimers, to Parkinsons Disease.

But yes, I do feel she has the beginnings of some form of dementia.

-Becky, Maybe. But the family denying the existence of 'something' being up with my mother's health, is even more maddening. That includes my father n' step-mother. But the more prevalent health issue, has to do with my paternal aunt. She has inoperable smell cell carcinoma from decades of smoking. So, I can't exactly 'rock the boat' from my concern.

My maternal grandfather died when I was 9yrs.-old. Of Alzheimers'. He died within a year of his diagnosis, a month before his 64th birthday.

-Sendhelp, While HIPPA forbids a doctor from talking to someone the patient has not given the doctor permission to talk to. It doesn't forbid a doctor from 'listening'(if the doctor wants' to).
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It concerns me that people in my family who may have a broken brain would be able to call up my doctor and give a diagnosis, or add their opinions about anything at all to do with me. What are the HIPPA laws for, if not to protect the patient's privacy? Or to protect the doctor/patient confidentiality?

Then, on the other hand, I truly sympathize with caregivers trying to assist their loved ones without enough information . Many patients holding on to valuable information, making the caregiver's life really really harder.

I am speaking from experience when hubs had a serious bike injury to his hand, waited too long to seek a specialist's treatment, (because his PCP would not refer him);and now has a thumb joint damaged beyond use. If I were allowed to support, and if my opinion counted, he would have gone to a plastic hand surgeon to repair the ligament to hold the thumb joint in place.
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