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Gawoman, we're all with you in spirit. Checking to see any of your updates. Take care. {{Hugs}}
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Retired from caregiving, ready for the next chapter.
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gawoman, just ((HUGS)) to you. Make sure to step outside and get some fresh air for yourself and look at the stars or enjoy the sunshine, whatever time it is when you get out. It is helpful to step back for a moment to collect your thoughts. Sending prayers for you and yours.
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GAwoman time to reflect on the joys of her life and, like the others I wish for you peace and calm for a gentle passing. Stay strong and rest as much as you are able.... you will need all your strength in the coming days xxxxx
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We're all praying for you Gawoman and your loved one to have peace beyond all understanding. This is a tough time to go through and you are doing awesome. We will keep you in our thoughts and prayers.
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gawoman we are all thinking about you and wishing Mom a peaceful passing. you have been doing a wonderful job caring for her and loving her. I know at times it has felt as though you are wandering in circles but you have found your way. You have been such a blessing to her
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It does sound like the time is near. My prayers are with you. I was with my mom when it was her time and I'm grateful, though it was hard; she had said she did not want to be alone and it was one of the few things where I could know I had done something right and fulfilled something she had wanted and needed. It did seem a little unreal, maybe because it is SO real, the most real event that ever happens...hugs and prayer for you and mom!!
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Thank you for all your comments. It does help, but Blood will not help her now. The dying process has begun and from what I understand-when its her time-it will be her time. Her mouth is bluish around her lips and she has stopped the sweating, and she is just resting comfortable with the 5 mc of Morphine she has been given. I do appreciate you guys talking to me during this time. Its strange I have had a calm come over me today but at times I get awed by the fact that she is going. Wow...the time is here and Im in a bit of shock.
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Today i gathered all the flowers from the 6 loved ones who have passed, then did moms shopping for groceries, meds, and birdfeed. She calls so many times every day...wondering if there is something shes supposed to do that day...or repeating questions or comments. Today she said shes tired of this life....its because she knows her mind is so messed up and shes always 'in a fog'. Yesterday when i reminded her to write down that i was coming today to run her errands, i said...make your grocery list of what you want/need. I always check to see what she needs as well but i feel this gives her some normality to also make her own list.. She said...i dont know how to make a list. She has lost so much in the last 6 months. I brought up assisted living again....and again she shot back with I would NEVER go somewhere like that with people trying to tell me what to do all the time. Even when i tell her its not like that, she simply changes the subject. I miss my mom.
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Gawoman...my heart goes out to you and is with you now. She will soon have no pain and be able to leave her poor body that no longer works. And you have given her a wonderful gift to pass at home...not to mention all the love and care. Sending you love and strength and peace.
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Gawoman, my Mom has been going through the blood transfusions at least once a month, they have trouble finding her veins also the damage they do in the process is staggering. Their skin is so fragile at this point.
we have elected not to go through the transfusions any longer. They can put a port in so they do not have to to stick her as they do for some cancer patients I am told who go through chemo etc. Not sure if she is strong enough to get that either. Every time my mother goes the it is such an ordeal my mother was in such discomfort during the whole process and she has complications sitting in a wheelchair or gerry chair waiting to get seen or taken care of it causes more issues then the the blood is providing. Hospice is helpful in our decision not to go to the hospital any longer for those sessions. My mother goes gets so upset as to they way she gets treated by others the nurses and CN's maybe doing their job but she needs more gentile handling at this stage. Why are they not teaching compassion and how to take care of Seniors with more dignity near the final process? I got off topic sorry but the whole situation like this is frustrating.
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AH yes Andraste but my mum has just been in hospital because she had a really low soidum level enhanced by me pushing too many fluids onto her. They cut down on her fluids to build up the sodium levels. I absolutely agree with you about fluids - just saying that sometimes it can have an adverse effect especially with some antidepressants that may have side effects of lowering sodium levels
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New here so I will keep this brief, although I appreciate TOO many of these comments and my heart goes out to them.....

Miralax, Miralax, Miralax and fluids!! I cannot vouch for this product more when it comes to keeping elders hydrated and the movement going properly.

Second, WHY do we feel so much guilt? How is THIS life the way life is suppose to be? When did OUR lives become so unimportant - or did we decide that?
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Sorry you have to go through this gawoman...I was in the same spot with my mother just 3 short days ago. From what mom's hospice nurse explained to (she was with me when mom passed) it is common for the person's body to get extremely hot almost like internal combustion...of course the mottling and change in breathing is your affirmative that she is on her way... mom's nurse thought maybe 24 hours but it was less than thirty minutes later.... yes it is extremely hard to witness.... just hold her hand and reassure her she will be just fine in her new life. God Bless
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My MIL is in the dying process. She was evaluated by hospice this morning. They started a very low dose of morphine. 5 mc. said it would make her comfortable. She had no pain much to speak of but complained this morning of her back ( in just a mumbled voice) so they said give her that and her blood pressure med. and anxiety by desolving it on a teaspoon with a drop of water. I got this done and stuffed cool rags under her arms and between her legs and on her neck and head to stop the sweating. She ran a fever yesterday but not today. I have seen her blood mottling in her ankles. she breathes very shallow. I give her only peace at the moment. no fluids except just a sip...no food as it can cause aspiration. She doesnt really know she is in the world. Bless her heart. Its hard to watch but I know she is gonna be in a better place.
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Maybe they could get labs just by finger stick - but seriously, on hospice, they should be carefully evaluating the needs for lab work. Fluid shifts can be strange - it depends on how much volume in your blood vessels and how much in tissues. Elevating the legs would hopefully get some back out of the tissues into the blood stream, but not too much for her heart to handle.
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Judda, I’m glad that you and mom had a great time together 5 days ago. I was smiling as I read it. I’m learning to treasure (or enjoy?) the times when he’s in a good Positive mood. Because that may become less and less as he progresses.

College, I smiled when I read that the EMT’s love your mom. She’s such a lady – so considerate in trying to give tips to the EMTs. Do you know how rare to read that here? I’ve never read one. It’s good that your family worries about you and your mom. They really care about you both.

Daughter52, a lot of ‘wants’ are my ‘wants’. I miss just walking out of the house to go shopping or visiting. I miss having free weekends. I miss just leisurely doing things, instead of rushing home because your sitter is leaving soon.

Gawoman...{{{Hugs}}}
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I would windytown, but I think I'll wait till morning. She is running a fever and I think I need to wait until the morning to make sure its not just a temporary thing. she is not peeing alot but that is due to the kidney failure and congestive heart failure. she retains fluids pretty bad. Her stomach has bloated in the last few days. The day she lost all the fluid in her legs she did pee more. But not now. I think she will go soon...maybe within the next few days. she is so weak
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gawoman, I feel so bad for you and mom. Can you call hospice right now with this question? I know they are all different, but my dad's was on call 24/7. Is she wetting a lot which would explain where the fluids are going? My dad peed out (for lack of a better expression) copious amounts his last couple of days.

So hard for you and MIL. (Hugs)
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Veronica91 I have a question for you....my MIL was supposed to have blood drawn (to remind you she has extreme congestive heart failure, cancer, and kidney failure) when the hospice nurses (2) came they could not get a vein at all either in her arms, hands and leg. All total they stuck her 7 times. (ask permission after 4) No blood would come out. Her veins are really shrunk. Im sure she is dehydrated but since she also has the congestive heart failure, they dont want her to have fluids and she wont drink much at all. Here is my question. Do you assume her blood veins here are collapsing?
Also They were gonna come back today after I got her to drink- but I knew it still wasnt enough. The main hospice nurse called me this morning and said that it was very dangerous for her to have blood with her veins like this-that she could have a heart attack. They are gonna try monday and the main Rn is going to come out herself. told me to get her to drink all weekend.
Here is something else I wonder...on Wednesday night her legs were up all night slightly elevated and the next morning the fluid was totally gone. Her legs have puffed a little since then but how this did this, I have no idea...She has been on lasix and it never helped much until that night. I wonder with the fluid going out so rapidly overnight if it caused her veins to collapse. They said on monday if her veins werent in better shape and they did not feel like it would be safe for her to have blood, then there would be no blood at all and the main hospice nurse would talk to her. Just wondering what you think on all these points. and is this part of her going down? Thanks- gawoman
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Oregongirl, Sorry you lost your husband. You express yourself beautifully. My father is good man, too. It makes caring for him less of a burden. The memories and goodwill that he built over a lifetime are what I draw upon.
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Im so sorry Oregongirl....but that was beautiful.
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My husband was dying and I did not recognize it. My daughter did. My husband refused to eat, but wanted SOME liquid. We assume they NEED a lot of liquid and he seemed to be satisfied with very little.

I am so sorry you are going through this. BUT, I hope my children have a few days or hours to go through this with me. I rather have that then a sudden death.

My kids need to learn from my dying. I certainly learned a lot from watching my husband die. He was such a wonderful Man of God. He gave me such a gift with the way he died. Please try somehow to realize this is NOT a bad time. (well in some cases it is),,,, dying is inevitable...it is how we die that our children remember. AS my mother was dying for days she saw her father and was so happy....She did not want anything on TV, just funny shows or faith shows. She was not afraid. It seems that WE who are left behind are fearful, but those dying seem to have so much courage and peace. At least that has been my experience. If your mother attended church or is a Christian, you might consider calling the pastor or priest and having a family communion before she goes. You will as a family always remember this moment. My husband could not take liquids or the bread, so we just had communion together and spoke the words. It was a beautiful moment. I am so looking forward to seeing him someday soon,
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Dear Gawoman - Listen to Veronica. I just went through this (ie) Lasix - she's spot on. In the end days - I used TENA pad inserts so I wouldn't have to roll her quite as often. It was hard on both of us. As the body starts to shut down, she won't want food or drink as she used to. I just gave her whatever she would eat. At that point, it wasn't about nutrition as much as it was about comfort foods.

I don't know what I was 'wired' to do. Some things come more easily than others. Does that mean I wasn't "wired" to work 14 hrs a day? I guess not - because it's hard for me to do - but I still do it.
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It would be good to have hubby home just for the support. I don't think there will be too much lifting from here in as she won't be able to get out of bed at all soon. You are doing a fine job even if you are feeling you are thrashing your way through a jungle.
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Very well said Veronica! so true. She does eat some, but craves everything that she wants that we dont normally buy....here lately she is craving more bread type things. Donuts, bisquits, tortilla chips (fried flour)...she gets on a kick and then wears out of it... My husband may have to take a leave of absence before long. He said he would if I couldnt lift her. We are getting the hospital bed today, and she has had a potty from the beginning since her kidneys arent good and she cant hold it more than a minute when sitting up. She is in fairly good spirits, no pain at the moment. But lifting her is like lifting dead weight. She originally weighed 105 at the beginnning and up to about 2 months ago, but now she weighs 120. The nurse said it was fluid.
because of the fact she is being weaned off the steriod treatment-the nurses said wait until that is done before taking her off any rest of the medication they want to take her off of. She doesnt drink much at all or pass much urine. More at night than any other time. I so do appreciate all your comments especially all of your insights. It really helps me feel like I know where she is at in her illness.
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gawoman do you have a hospital bed with a commode so she does not have to walk to the bathroom at all. If she insists use a wheelchair if there is room. An office chair on wheels is often a good substitute if space is limited.
She may not be in the actively dying stage but there is little difference between that and the pre dying stage. Ask about stopping the lasix and other meds. it is not getting rid of the fluid and probably makes her mouth dry. do not try and give her food you feel is "good for her" now just small amounts of things she fancies. for example if she asks for ice cream just give a table spoon presented in a small pretty bowl with a teaspoon to eat it. she can always have more. She may like ice cold drinks but many prefer liquids at room temperature as they go down easier. This is the hardest time for you but you are doing a fantastic job and clearly love your MIL. Is hospice sending an aide for bathing etc. Take that time to sit out side and relax don't hover and help. Ask hospice any questions you have and call when you need reassurance that is why they are there and keep in touch here. The beauty of this site is that you are not bothering anyone. We don't know you so if we choose to not answer your posts it is because we don't know the answer, are too busy, your question is too personally painful. It helps a lot just to write your thoughts and feelings down.
Men as everyone knows are wired differently from women and early on in my career I thought husbands stayed away from their dying wives because they did not care. Hubby set me right on that one. He said they stayed away because they do care very much. They are the hunters, protectors, the women are the caregivers
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My MIL doesnt read anything other than the Bible. Doesnt care for music. Her friends have all pretty much said all they want to about her situation (basically have said goodbye) my MIL has said she doesnt want company other than Immediate family and caregivers. She doesnt want to go anywhere if she could. She does focus on Tv just a bit still...loves the Little Couple. I try to keep the Tv on when she is alert and lower the sound when she is sleeping, which is almost all the time. She is still eating, not that much tho, and she is drinking less everyday. Even tho she is on lasix she doesnt urinate alot, and she is very swelled in the legs and thighs. She understands eating protein would help the swelling but she will not eat meat at all or eggs hardly. I try to give her ensure since it does have some protein but she will not take but a sip or two. She is basically shutting down some, but has not started the actual dying process according to Hospice. they told me that she could at any minute or might not for a week or so... so who knows. Only the angels in heaven and our maker.
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I am so sorry. Sounds like you are caring for your husband's mother. Men do not like being woke up. PERIOD. I am so sorry for you. Loosing a loved one just seems to come suddenly. We know it will come, but the day does come and it is hard to believe it is here. I will pray for your strength and that your mother in law has a peaceful end. Does she have a book she likes? Music she likes? Any friend that she really cares about? Find something that would make her move her thoughts away from the dying. We don't know when we are born, but we do known when we are dying. Both are similar. I have been told that being born is the most dangerous time in our life. I don't know if that is true. I hope you find peace in this. God Bless you all.
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My journey of caregiving may be over soon. the hospice nurse told my MIL today that the fluid on her body was making her heart weak. Last night she fell in the bathroom and hit her back on the tub, she was trying so hard but was weak, I usually stay right behind her holding on to her clothing, but she ask me for a pull up and I went in her bedroom to get one and wham....I looked around and she was in the floor. Got my husband up to help me get her up out of the floor. He was cross but did it. She has been weak, very weak today all day long. no strength in her legs at all. Can't stand alone. The hospice nurse came cos I called her and I told her how weak she was and that she had fell last night. She just finally told my MIL she was gonna be honest with her and tell her what she thought. My MIL keeps saying she needs blood, but the nurse told her it was the fluid on her that is making her weak. They are going to do blood work in the morning to see if her blood is low. She had blood 3 weeks ago....I dont think that is it.
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