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Bless you all. Keep talking. Keep getting it out. You are loved. You did and are doing your loved ones the greatest service known to man. Bless you. Truly. Thank you
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Vstefans, thanks for the reassurance that I wasn't being disrespectful. I still think it would have been best if I sat in the back.

Glad - that is so funny! I chuckled. During mom's Mass of Intentions, I admired these old ladies who had no problem doing all that up, down, kneel, etc.... My knees would have been hurting. (I cannot even kneel on the bed mattress - just the pressure of weight on my knees causes pain - no matter how soft the surface is.)

I woke up normal today. I had this great idea to try one of those exercise apps for every day situations. My stomach is expanding. So, I chose the exercise to sit on the chair, back fully against the chair, use your hands to grab the back seat, and then lift your legs up at 90 degrees, holding tummy in, count to six, then legs down. I felt my neck straining but Ignored. I should not have ignored it. When I was done, my neck was in throbbing pain. Which escalated as my day progressed. My headache would not respond to any of the painkillers. And I was frustrated around 4pm to realize that I could not remember doing this or that - this morning at work!!! Well... that exercise is out. Now I know the signs of neck straining that would lead to this terrible neck/headache. 8pm and still feeling miserable. My stomach has decided to join in the misery by making me feel nauseous.
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Just one note on you Catholics. When I was a kid one of my best friends was Catholic. I would spend the night with her and go to Catholic services on Sunday mornings with her family sometimes. My goodness, you Catholics are up and down alot! Well it caused me problems and made me dizzy to the point that I passed out probably five or six times when I was at church with this same family! I was probably ten or eleven years old. Even now, if I am in a Catholic church I am leery of the up and down! LOL!
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I'm Catholic and in general they do their best to make sure people who aren't feel welcomed. And it is OK not to stand and kneel and all that - some Catholics don't if they feel physically unable or that its too difficult. When there is an occasion when more than a few attendees are likely to be non-Catholic, they take a minute to explain why we don't do open communion and all that. Please feel welcome and participate as much or as little as you feel you can while still being spiritually honest with yourself and with God, seroiusly!
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If you are not of the Catholic faith I see no reson to attend anything other than the actual funeral which you can do out of respect.
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Kikiboo -this site saved my sanity 6 + yrs. ago also now I stick around to give back and because I made so many friends here-the husband died 5 1/2 yrs. ago and have moved on and have been dating a nice man or almost 2 yrs. ago we stared talking on the phone 2 yrs. ago this month we went to HS together and saw each other at our reunions-his wife died two yrs. ago.
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Brandy, I'm of a religion that is very strict against mixing with other religion. Our island's largest religion is Catholic. When I changed religion in my early 20's, I stopped attending any of the 7-9 days of rosaries before and also after the burial. There's also a mass on the day of the funeral. I compromised in that I went to the funeral services but did not enter the church. I stayed outside during the mass service.

On the day of my mom's death, my aunty started asking me about rosaries, etc.. OMGoodness. I was in shock and even if I was a Catholic, I wouldn't have had the answer to those questions. Older sis took over the arrangements. I agonized about attending mom's 'Mass of Intentions' (I don't know what that is, just that they say mom's name before the service starts - every night until mom is buried.) In the end, I went to mom's Mass of Intentions - and compromised myself spiritually.

Because I'm not Catholic, I made it known to my siblings that I cannot participate in the services. I sat in the way back of the church so that it's not so obvious that I was Not standing, kneeling, etc... I just sat there and watched, listened to the priest. On the day of mom's funeral, I caved in my siblings' insistence that I sit in the front row - where the immediate family belongs. I felt soooo uncomfortable when everyone stood up, kneeled, etc.. and I just sat there. I thought it was very disrespectful.

IF I was still very active in my religion, I would not have caved in. I would not have gone to the Mass of Intentions or be at mom's funeral mass.

You can think about what you're going to do in the future funeral. But that might not work. In the end, at the time it happens, you might have an inner conflict of the heart vs. the mind. Just as I never thought that I would enter a church filled with statues and sit there during services - I did do it when the time came. You can plan ahead but know that it can always change in the last minute.
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Hi Kikiboo, I also hope that you take time off from your aunt so that you can grieve for your father. There’s really not much info about your aunt. If you have to give her a drink every 5 minutes, does that mean she’s paralyzed and cannot lift the cup to sip from? When you feel the need, please don’t hesitate to come here.

57twin, I hope you get over with the cold. I hate colds. Especially when it’s time to sleep. Clogged up face makes sleeping difficult.

Hi Mandaj, yeah, when you read around here, that’s all you will see, exhaustion, stress, no life, no help, etc… Like you, when I found this site, I was seriously suicidal and even chose the day, and how to do it. Then I found this site. Like you, I swear God must have helped me. I read your words and I remembered thinking that, too. Strange, how I forgot it until now. “Feelings I never knew”… I know, I know. Feelings that make me feel soooo unchristian.
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Brandy, no I do not think you have to go. But don't use catholic service as an excuse. Funerals are for the living to pay their respects. You have done plenty to show your respect and love for your mother. If my Mom were to pass tomorrow, I would not attend the service. I just do not go to them, probably because of losing my Dad at such a young age. Every time I have gone to one, regardless of who it is I am a complete mess. Probably been to ten or fewer in my life.

So, try to stop worrying and stressing about whether you want to go or not. Wait until the time comes, make the decision that is right for you. I understand completely what you are saying. Take care of you in the best way you know how.
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i visited my Dad a few days ago. The weather was bad so I asked to spend the night on his couch. He just lost his wife to Alz. She's in the NH now. Poor Dad: bad vision, bad hearing, getting thin, very sad and lonely. "You can sleep in my bed," he says.
OMG, this family is more strange every day!
The couch was bearable. I don't eat bread. "VAT? NO BRRRRRRREAD? Vant some toast?"
When I was ready to leave he got out his checkbook and was writing me a check.
"What are you doing, Dad? I don't need any money."
"I want to give you some!" he insisted. Ok. Fine. He looked up and then remembered the date. Then he looked up again. "What year is it?" Uh-oh.
"1950 something?" I went pale and swore to myself.
Yah, life at 95.
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I have written here about the funeral that will be in my future. It will be a catholic funeral with rosary the night before. I am protestant. Do I have to go to Mom's rosary service when the time comes. Like I said in the earlier post, just dreading all this.
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I tell you, God must of directed me to this page! I feel almost just like bpryor01. I hate it! I use to be happy go lucky, high on life. After almost two yrs of being shut in with a shut in. I have feelings I never knew. Some I wish I still didn't know!
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Day 2 with a nasty cold so no visiting Dad. I emailed the activities director to tell dad as his office is across the hall from dads room. He emails me back that he was crabby and irritated and didnt want to go to church or play bingo.
The topic of going home again. This usually passes but Its hard for me when this occurs.
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She is manipulating and spiteful because she is scared.
Tell her what you have told us - that you want the best for her - but you are not feeling well and you need to take a few days off and let the nurses take care of her - and you talked to them to make sure they give her special attention while you are away.

Those anniversary reactions can absolutely throw you for a loop. No need to hate yourself. Give yourself a hug and permission not to jump at auntie's every twinge of fear or whim. she may not be fully rational, but that little time away communicates on some level that you have limits and can't just be abused and insulted (the statment about the money really IS an insult) continually without consequences. I once had to be told NOT to visit every day, and it was hard to skip days but it did make a difference and Mom learned she could trust the staff.
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I'm feeling very guilty. :(
I'm SO tired of the delerium that causes my aunt to tell me how much she loves me one day, then threaten me that if I don't sit beside her all night long, "I won't get a cent of her money". I don't give a rats a$$ about money, I have my own. I look after her interests as we are the last of our lineage, and it's what I was brought up to do. Making it worse is the fact that in exactly 4 days, it will the the first anniversary of my fathers passing.. One incident I truly feel I will never come to grips with, I want him back so badly. :'(
I stormed away from her last night, saying "I love you, now go to hell" (Lord forgive me :( I was awful)... And I feel so guilty, but am still apprehensive about going back to her today. I feel I have hit my emotional limit as far as my heart goes... I want nothing but the best for her and have been hitting my emotional and physical threshold for days (I'm not in the best of health myself...)
While having me there is a connection to reality and only I have the true time to look after her every need (wiping her weepy eyes) giving her drinks every 5 minutes etc., I wonder if I am better off to just let the nurses look after her???
I cried like a baby last night, for me, and for the woman she used to be. I don't want to lose her, but for her to be this manipulating, spiteful, hate monger... I asked God to take her. 92 is an age I never want to reach... I'd rather jump in front of a bus than deal with what she is dealing with.
I hate myself today..... :'''0
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Veronica, I learned something in her book. I wrote here from time to time of my dad hitting me in my head/face when I'm in the middle of changing bedridden mom's pampers. Anything would trigger his anger. Like what I'm reading in the book with her father. Before, my dad would make sure to hit me behind the head - so no evidence of bruising. Then I noticed he was aiming for my face, even my eye glass almost flew off my face. I knew he was progressing in his violence. I was so torn between abandoning mom and he will continue to hit her. Or, I stay and be the target of his anger. It was a very scary time. Then one day, like the author's father did to her, my dad flew into such rage. He came at me with his hands outstretched to choke me. I was so terrified, I couldn't even run. I froze up. Then I suddenly became calm (heart still beating like crazy), positioned my body to a punching position - as in both hands fisted, right arm thrown back, and my body angled (not full face) towards him. I looked him in the eyes and waited for him. He stared at my upraised hands, stopped and backed off.

I found out from this book, that if I had actually punched him while he was trying to choke me - that I would have gone to prison - for abusing an elderly. Because I have the option to call 911 or flee. OMGoodness! How terrible for all those caregivers who have to face this daily abuse. I'm waiting for dad to reach that stage that mom got to. That terrible hatred and anger - where I knew that if mom ever caught me, I would be seriously hurt.

And that is why I bought her book. Yes, I noticed that she had so much money and options. As I was reading the book, I felt myself stressing, tensing up. Anyway, it's 12:40am. Time to sleep. I'm trying to skip all those quotes but it's so hard because she keeps throwing it in all the time...
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I agree with Veronica maybe she will have good input but needs to know you and hubs will be able to go with her idea or do it on your own with no more ideas from her.
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Your Mom needs to back off tell her she is not allowed to expound on this subject any longer because it upsets you-she probably is try to dig on him but tell her it is you she is upsetting and has to stop it if she wants to continue living with you-she does not get it it as of yet and needs to be told how things are firmly.
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Book persist with the book there is some good information in it although the author does not have the extensive hands on experience that you have. There is also enough money in the family for her to step away when she has to. Totally ignore the movie quotes they are just to prove how important and famous she thinks she is (or is) as I have not visited a movie theater in very many years - like over 40!
All that being said it was still a very stressful situation for her and she really had to persist to get the job done, get Dad locked up and prevent him doing further damage to Mom. Mom was so passive and would do what Dad told her and never utter a word against him although he put her at considerate risk due to his volativity. She loved her parents dearly but did not have the cultural beliefs you have that prevent you ever considering a locked memory care unit for your father. Hugs
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Pam I know how you feel post layoff - been there done that however did not have the added stress of parents ie Mom trying to help. Will she respond to being told to "Butt out"
The alternative is to just give her the information and see what she comes up with!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hi Emily, no such thing as going off course in what you wrote. I tend to get sidetracked a lot. What you said about your mom, I'm glad that you both got to know each other - even if it is later in life. Please come back and share more if you feel like it.
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Okay...now I know why I'm struggling with the book. She keeps quoting sooo much from movies, tv shows, etc.... It gets irritating because I'm reading the serious stuff, and then she quotes some movie show, and I get confuse. Huh? Then I have to backtrack to find the real story, and then try to figure out what the movie quote is trying to say. I end up skipping it. I just went back to reading the book. Very serious stuff.. and I got thrown off again from the quotes! sigh.. I'm seriously thinking of quitting the book at page 65. Too bad, it would have been a great book to read if she could have just dropped all those quotes. ... Time to change dad's pamper...
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Hi Jam. Know how you feel about hearing the same things over and over . I also write things on post its for my mom. Can't always count on her to read the post its. Yet there are moments (few too many) when she says something with total clarity. And in that moment I feel I have my mom back if just a little. I find dealing with the mental decline much more stressful (in a different way) than her physical decline from lung cancer and pulmonary fibrosis. My heart breaks for what she is going through physically. I do all her shopping, cleaning, paying bills, dealing with medical people. I'm sure she hates not being able to do it herself. She was very independent before all this. As for me, I feel like I'm losing my best friend. We had gotten very close later in life. Now it's almost over. Anyway, hope I didn't go off course here. New to all of this.
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I'm struggling to keep my attention on the book: Elder Rage. She has a lot of tidbits as one reads her story.
1. A nurse advised her about when it's time to place the author's father (he has a horrible temper) in a facility, be sure to pick one that has a 'lock up dementia unit' because otherwise, when he gets nasty, most places will just kick him out & you have to take him home. If they have a lock-up dementia unit, they can separate him until they can get him properly sedated.

2. Her father refused to have an in-home paid caregiver. So she called her godfather, whose wife also is needing 24hr care to help. Godfather comes to visit, makes small talk, then admires her father's caregiver. Said that he cannot seem to find good paid caregivers like her father's. Asked if he was planning to hire her permanently. If not, he would like to hire her to take care of his wife. (Reverse Psychology.) It worked. Her father said that she's not available to be hired by godfather.

Slow going book. I guess I'm just not in the frame of mind for this. I'd sooo much rather read my fantasy books. Later...
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Work with the hospital discharge people to have her placed in a nursing home. That is the only remaining choice that you have for her safety and care.
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Burnedout, I have no experience in this. But, it sounds like your mom needs a nursing home. That's usually the next step after ALF. You can try to find options by the box on the top right, titled: Find Housing and Care, Nursing Homes. My dad forgets he cannot walk. Several times, I was able to stop him from getting off the hospital bed. He already had both legs dangling off the bed, trying to position himself to sit up. As you have stated, your mom is no longer safe in ALF. She needs more care that ALF or your father can provide. I hope that someone will answer and give you some ideas on your separate question.
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I am doing awful today. My mom fell again at assistant living. Had a compression fracture and had it fixed. Went to rehab for three weeks and completely fell apart. No longer had any sense of reality. Went back to ALF and is in a wheel chair. Gets out of bed in the middle of the night and falls. Dad of 90 years insists she goes back to his bed so he can stop her from falling.
She develops a wound from sitting and now back in the hospital. No longer knows where she lived at ALF and her home of 55 years. Hospital wants her back at a rehab. This is no longer an option. Her short term memory is completely gone and the stress of rehab is too much for her. ALF cannot take care of her. My dad at 90 can't take care of her. I am now so tired I can't think straight. Tonight at the hospital, she pulled out her catheter and her IV's and
was completely out of control. I am out of options. I hate to send her to a SNF away from my dad, but she is not safe at the assistant living facility. I had a plan to end all of this on January 10th, if they were both alive. But once all these issues came up, I was concerned that my son would have to take over. I would not wish this anyone. and definitely not to someone I love. I asked a question on the site -can you turn over the care of elderly parents over to the state or to some type of agency. My dad has a lot of resources - but wants me to handle everything by myself. I can't do this alone anymore. I am desperate for some help. Who would that be?
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Pam, your husband sounds like a pretty responsible hard working man. While its natural for a parent to worry about their kids, even when they're adults, your mom needs to step back and let your husband work thru this. It's really not her place to harp on him about his taking a few weeks to regroup, about knowing your finances. Hopefully you can convey to her that while she means to help, her actions and words are actually increasing the stress.
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Pam, any way of casually talking to hubby that it's okay to take a few weeks off. In the meantime, he can just continue to turn in job applications at places he would love to work in? Now that he can relax and do what he really wants to do? Maybe even a part-time job, it that's what he wants. Just subtly get hubby to think that he can still work but a less stressful job? What I'm afraid is - is that he might enjoy the leisure life too well and find it harder to get back into the job world. Or maybe there's something underlying his reason? For example,for me,it is the fear that it will be the younger generations to be chosen before me. Or the real biggie - doing the job interviews!
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hoh boy--stress big time from every corner. Poor you. Your husband sounds like a very hard worker. I'll be praying for you guys. We been there too.
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