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Yes, same problem I have as well--finding a local support group. I even tried other areas close by and nada, zip. This site in one day has shown more help and support than in all the years I tried to get help and emotional support from family and other places. So glad I found this site!
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I wish there were support groups in my area that are close by..... then I realized those group are probably hard to set up because the Caregivers don't have time to attend :(
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You do feel invisible as a caregiver -if possible try to find a support group to join even if it is not run well you will find like people there you can become friends with and support each other. Our Senior Center is going to start up another one in which I and another former caregiver attend-we both have so much unasked for experience to share.
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I know how you feel, Goldengirl1. Today when I was home alone, before I found this site, I was crying and feeling depressed too. I don't want to take care of my husband or daughter either anymore, or her 12 cats and the puppy. The cats were all rescue cats and we had to really put our foot down so she wouldn't rescue any more! I feel overwhelmed and suffocating sensations too. I didn't know how to put it into words but you described it to a "T". Caregivers have no life. I feel as if I'm in prison and sentenced to life. If there was a support system maybe I wouldn't feel so overwhelmed along with guilt for feeling like this, or resentment for having no life. I had to give up a dream job that I wanted all my life only to finally have/do it for 5 short years til I had to give it up to take care of my husband. I try not to feel resentment that my life is now over and all I am to my husband is his caregiver--I'm not his wife. We never had the best marriage to begin with as he is very emotionally distant and wants no type of companionship from me at all. He only wants a housekeeper and caregiver. He admits he's 'wrong', told his counselor so one of his 'goals' is to spend companion time with me and do things together. That makes me feel very demeaned and humiliated. After 41 years of marriage, I know he never will. I feel for you and know exactly how you feel. I think we are both suffering from burnout
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Ativam works for me.. 1/2 a pill and I am less stressed! Doesn't solve the problem.. but still
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Goldengirl and freqflyer, I read what you both wrote today. What you are feeling is what so many of us are feeling. The stress can be so hard on us. ff, I liked what you said in another thread about being done with it. I know that it is time for you, since you have so much recovery work to do with the panic. I am so glad that you are stepping back. Your parents have money for cabs and anything they need.

Goldengirl, I can tell that you are done, too. I was wondering what other options were there for you. You're in the same place many of us are, needing to get some joy back in your life. I wish I could figure out a good way to do it. Driving a new car to a new uncluttered house of my own might do it for me. :) What a sweet thought that is.
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Goldengirl, pretty much all of us have been there... part of me wonders if we stopped crying in the car, in the shower, or in our room or own home, and what if we actually cried those same tears in front of our parent, would they finally understand? I know I am tried of hiding my frustrations.
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burnedout13, good example *Mission Impossible* :)
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Stopped n quickly to see Dad and made sure his room was tidy as my cousin and her hubby visited dad. She said they stayed about 90 minutes and he talked about sawing down a dead tree she thought he might be thinking about when he owned a house. she asked him how often he sees his daughters and he said he never sees them probably once he is dead they will want the "house". Made me sad since I just saw him about 3 hours before:(
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The past couple of days I have felt a heavy feeling of depression slowly over taking me. I am feeling overwhelmed and just an overall feeling of dread. Sometimes it is hard for me to just catch my breath and I feel like I am suffocating. I was sitting at a light today coming home from work and the tears just started flowing. I just did not want to come home knowing that I would be stuck at the house the rest of the day. I just feel like I have no life. I know I have a right to feel this way, but still feel guilty because I just do not want to take care of my mother anymore.
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I, like freqflyer use the grocery store system. Everything is done - all I do is heat it and add a couple of items that are a family tradition. (simple family traditions). I laughed about the when is dinner? When my parents were living with me, I could have been lying in the floor, with multiple compound fractures and in a pool of blood and my dad would ask - Is dinner almost ready? Nothing keeps my dad from his food. Last night was really stressful. I got my mom to bed and after getting home - my dad called at 12:00 to tell me that my mom had gotten up, dressed because she thought it was morning. He wanted me to come back and help her get back to bed. I told him to call the front desk and see if someone there could help her. They did. At 4:00 he called again to say
that she got back up and dressed again because she thought it was morning.
He wanted me to come back and help her back to bed. This time I suggested that she rest on the couch and he put some blankets on her. Apparently that worked - she went to sleep on the couch and I was up the rest of the night. Taking care of one person is challenging - taking care of two is like Mission Impossible. The exhaustion and isolation is overwhelming. One day at time is all one can reasonably do.
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herbalizer77, I know how you feel. I just keep waiting for something to get better and praying. I take care of my Mother 93 and my husband 72. They both have dementia early stages. Mom is wheelchair bound and can't do anything but try to fold clothes. I appreciate that. My husband is very spoiled. It is very tiring, I am burned out. Just take one day at a time, sending love and prayers to all caregivers
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herbalizer77, you do have a lot on your plate. Yes, wouldn't it be nice if someone asked within the family how are we doing.

I think my Dad comes from a generation where the men didn't ask others *how are you doing?*. It was always the women being Florence Nightingale, and heaven forbid if Florence got under the weather. One could be on what feels like their death bed and someone will ask "when is dinner?" :P
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How nice to be asked how I, ME am doing. The focus is always on the one being cared for, by everyone else. Rightfully so of course, but after years and years of taking care of two people..... I take care of my husband, who has multiple medical issues and cancer too from Vietnam (he's a Vietnam Vet and contacted cancer from being exposed to Agent Orange) plus some cognitive issues (not dementia yet) and also a daughter who had been seriously hurt on the job, fell through the cracks of the SYSTEM and couldn't be declared disabled unless we hire a lawyer, so I take care of her too. She had head injuries so has alot of cognitive issues. Both function, but still need someone to take care of them and it's very wearing. Also have whiny needy cats (my daughter's) and a puppy so that all adds to the stress I already feel from taking care of them. Today they both went to the dentist and I'm all alone (YAY) and feel guilty because I'm not tackling the mounds of work that's piling up. Since both of them are either sick or hurt at one time or another, we don't get much done. I feel guilty resenting both of them (they think alike so they usually gang up on me) and selfish for wishing I could have someone care about ME and take care of me for just one day. I'm so burned out. We have no support system. Other family doesn't 'get it' and feel I can do it just fine. Man, I could go on and on---like a dam has opened. Tried looking for a local support group for caretakers and none in our area. Well, online works! Thanks for letting me vent. It actually felt good.to voice it and not see a judgmental face staring back at me.
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For Thanksgiving I have my local grocery store do all my cooking.... the turkey comes already cooked, and all I need to do is heat it for 2 hours in the oven.... then all the side dishes are ready-made items, heat and serve. I hate hate hate cooking, so when the grocery store started offering this service years ago, I jumped on it :)
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Pam... I think I'm coming to your house for Thanksigiving...
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Get a FRESH turkey instead of a frozen one, big difference. Do NOT stuff it, it stays moister. Put it in an open roasting pan, into a COLD oven. When you turn the oven on, the intense pre-heating will sear the bird and seal in the juices. This is the same principle as the infra red unit- sudden intense heat. From a COLD start, I set the oven at 325F (165C) and those coils glow red hot for quite a while. If you have convection, a 20 lb bird will be done in 3.5 HRS. Been there. Done that.
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Oh crap.. my hubs looked at that fryer today at home depot.. let me know how it works...LOL
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Entering week 4 with the fractured arm...feeling a lot less pain...first week was killer since they can't cast it because the break is to close to the shoulder...still hanging in a sling that ties around my waist. Tried to talk to hubby about going to daughters house for Thanksgiving and bringing me a plate home...I still can't use the bathroom on my own without the Swash seat he installed for me here...instead we are now the owners of an infer red oil less turkey fryer (we already had a regular turkey fryer) he plans on cooking a Thanksgiving feast for the 2q of us...all I can do is watch...he's turning into a pretty good cook...
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Freq, I laughed at your experience. I can tell you that that works very very well with callers asking to do a survey. We had one call where the lady wanted to speak to my dad since he's under this specific insurance. I explained that he won't understand her questions, so I will need to translate for her. Well, dad picks up his cordless phone, and keeps saying, "Hello, hello. hello." And she's responding back with "Hello, I ..." It was funny because he's hard of hearing. And while he's saying hello, he keeps pressing the Speaker button. So, all I hear is his hellos, her trying to complete the first introduction sentence and clicking sounds. I felt so bad for both of them. I interrupted (with dad still saying hello and clicks in the background) and asked her if she still wanted to interview him. She said no.
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Speaking of phone calls, I should do what my Mom does... she will keep saying hello even if I try to talk to her on the phone.... Mom is almost deaf from age related decline but for some reason she still picks up the phone if Dad is too busy to answer.

Mom: hello
Me: Hi Mom
Mom: hello?
Me.: Mom can you hear me?
Mom: let me hit boost [button on phone to make the sound louder]
Me: Mom are you there? Hello. You don't need to hit boost every time you answer the phone.
Dial-tone [she hit the wrong button again]
I speed-dial their number.
Repeat, rinse
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Fave sis and hubby just left after a short visit. Her hubby is always going off-island for business. He keeps asking her to go with him but she always turns him down. Sis has only flown one time in her lift. And that was when we took a 2 day trip to another island that's about a 30 minute plane ride. Other than that, she never flew. He's going on a trip again this week. I mentioned that maybe next time he goes to Korea, we can go and do a short visit. While he's working, we can go shopping at the tourist district. He said that it's a place that we can shop all day. Yep. I said that if you walk down to what looks like a basement store - it's actually a shopping center. He agreed. Sis asked me how do I know that. I said that I've been to Korea before. And the shopping!!! Then he said, "Disneyland in Japan." That got both of us excited. She wanted to bring all the kids and he agreed. I interrupted and gave them a reality check. Japan's hotels are expensive. Most hotels only allow max 2 per room. We would need to find an American chain hotel that would allow more than 2 per room. Very expensive. Even the food. We would have to eat what the locals eat to keep the cost low. We're talking about 7 adults and 2 kids. But knowing sis, that's just dreams. She will need to work on why she's afraid to fly.

sigh.... I'm typing now. It's 1015am, and I'm already getting so tired and sleepy. I guess I'm still not ready to post here on AC. I was wide awake when I came on here. Now, I feel so exhausted. I'm going to stop now. And take a quick nap. Which I really rather not do because I have so much to do. Figure out my checking balance, pay off the bills which I've been putting off, etc...

A few weeks ago, dad started stuffing napkins inside his pants. This morning, I found his first stuffed napkin - inside his pamper!
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Veronica, that last sentence got me laughing. Jessie, I would never have thought the almost midnight caller was solicitation, etc... We get those calls in the afternoon - due to time difference. Or persistent ones - around 6 to 8pm. Never at our time of 11:00pm and on. However, I very much prefer that it's solicitors calling. And not scary ones playing tricks on me. Like it did - same time like this - with the baby monitor going off as if mom was choking. After the 2nd 'choking' sound, I knew they were playing tricks on me. So, I unplugged the monitor and prayed really hard that it didn't turn on - like all those scary movies when the TV or radio continued to playing even when the people unplugged it. I keep telling myself all day that you guys are right - solicitors, solicitors.

It's so strange when oldest sis talks in sentences. She is soooo quiet. It's so strange that she now offers me her food. Before, she would hoard her food. Is it because she sees I'm being nice to her? Our lunch is so little. No matter how hungry I am, I always leave her half of it. Except that one time I was sooo hungry that I asked her if it's okay if I finished the food and not leave her any. Yesterday, when I came home, she actually gave me a Hormel Salisbury Steak microwave meal. I was so touched. It helped with my irritation of her passive-aggressiveness. Between work, dad and her - I've been stressing a lot.
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My trick is to let the phone ring three times before I pick it up. If it is one of 'them"someone else has already answered and there is no one one my line. Sometimes as with so called legitimate charities they will ask to speak to my husband and i tell them i will ask him if he is accepting calls and when he shakes his head tell them he is not tonight. They will thank me and say they will call back later. Then I tell them not to bother he wont accept calls then either. I never stop what I am doing to answer the phone on the assumption that if I trip in my rush they won't be there to pick me up. Also if it is something important they will leave a message or try again. very annoying whatever you do. i once flushed the toilet and that got rid of the person very fast.
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Oh, Book, then he IS accusing you! Fortunately, he is accusing you of things, and in a manner, that lack all credibility. Let him accuse - especially since you can't do much to stop him, and everyone who matters knows what the score is. He's not intentionally telling lies about you, he's making "sense" (to himself, of course) of where his stuff can have got to.

I can imagine that it must have got under your skin, having endless rellies telling you what was what when you were already doing your best to look after your mother. It's so easy to tell other people what to do, isn't it? - much harder for them to get their own hands dirty. But nowadays, with so much more experience under your belt, just remember that people can be as free as they like with their snotty opinions - doesn't mean they're right, let alone that you have to agree with them!

Those silent calls are a menace; and yes they are from direct marketing companies whose automated systems dial dozens of numbers at a time and then allocate them to operators in the call centre. Where in the world do you have to go to escape them? I'm registered with every mail and telephone preference service I can think of, to screen out unsolicited sales calls, and still get them. I've tried just hanging up, I've tried being sarcastic, I do try never to be shouty if there's a person on the line because after all it's not their idea to drag me out of the shower or whatever I'm doing, very very occasionally if I've got absolutely nothing else to do I play along and ask lots of 'innocent' questions until I get bored. But what I really want to know is, who is it who signs up for services from these wretched companies? Because somebody must do. If they weren't making any money from direct sales they wouldn't be doing it. Whoever you are, please stop it! You're just encouraging them!!!
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book, it's probably telephone solicitors from India or elsewhere. The companies have a answer-activated system that shifts to one of their agents. Many times it doesn't work and you get nothing.

The calls that bother me the most are the ones that happen at night. For a while I was having to leave our phone off the hook because we kept getting calls with no one on the other end every few minutes. We aren't on anyone's hit list, so I imagine it was a soliciting company gone awry. We're on every do-not-call list, even for nonprofits, but it doesn't do any good -- especially when the companies call from outside the US.
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1225am. I just got out of the bathroom, and I can hear the phone ringing in my bedroom. Yet, I don't hear the livingroom phone ringing. We have one phone number but 2 phones equipment. By the time I got to my room, it stopped ringing. I check the livingroom phone (portable and the main one.) Both have no dial tone. I tried calling out and calling in. Nothing.

I'm in my bedroom getting my blankets and pillows to take to the livingroom. My phone starts ringing. I answered it. No sound. Dead noise. I've always been a scaredy cat from watching all those horror movies while growing up. I started thinking the boo-ga-loos are playing tricks on me. What if I picked it up and a scary voice comes on. So I tried to ignore it while my heart was speeding up from fear. The phone kept ringing. I closed my door to hide the sound.

Here, 20minutes to type this on the kindle.
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Book just as well I don't type with my eyes half closed because I don't touch type!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The thing is - when he tells me about anything, it's "somebody is taking my money." "somebody is giving away my stuff." "Somebody is sneaking some for themselves." "somebody is selling my stuff." And I take him at face value - that it's just 'somebody.'

I have recently found out from several family members who are babysitting - only because I brought it up. All these months, they all kept quiet about dad accusing me of stealing from him. To them, he does NOT say, 'SOMEBODY...' He says my name as the culprit. I was shocked. And hurt. And scared. The whole emotions. Then, I meet my cousin and uncle, heard what grandma did to her caregivers - which resulted in them going to court and defend themselves to the judge. I have always, always been a 'go with the flow' person. Don't rock the boat, don't wander off from the group, etc... So, I'm panicking as he blames me for things missing.

Yes, I will admit that I do get so defensive. I got like that because when I was helping dad caregive mom, I had relatives and inlaws and nonfamily people Tell Me that I need to do more! I was shamed by my elders to feel such a slacker, a hanger-on. I got all the lectures - not my 7 siblings. I mean, really, for a govt caregiver to ask my bro-of-next-door about me? I guess even then, my dad was blacklisting me behind my back.

We don't argue much any more. I've basically withdrawn from him, from everything. Every time I come here on AC, I suddenly feel so exhausted, brain gets all fogged up. I try to read here, and I get sooooo tired. Tonight's the worst. Even as I'm typing this with my eyes half closed. Lastnight, when I felt energized, I got on here. And suddenly I'm so exhausted. So, weird. I guess it's my subconscious mind.

57twin, I'm now scared to order too many of those creams. I never thought of the adverse effects of his over-using it. I know he went overboard with the Salon Pas. The nurse told him that he's not suppose to put it all over him. Dad didn't care to listen. He knows best.

Gosh, I keep yawning harder and harder. Time to get off here. And it's only 1030pm. I go shower and eat some ice cream. You know, chopped pecan nuts look so much like chopped walnuts? I didn't read the pkg and bought the pecan thinking it was walnuts. Walnuts makes ice cream taste soooo much better than pecans or almonds... another big yawn... Night all. I hope you have a better day today than yesterday.
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Book is the cream/lotion something us in the states might be able to find at a lower cost for you.
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