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Book, Do you have an mp3 player you could be listening to whenever your dad is in that vulgar state? You can't change his behavior but you shouldn't be subjected to it either.

Susan, My neck hurts just thinking of the pain you discribed. I hope the allergy med has helped. If not, document all you are going through and keep in touch with your physician. I too go through the shopping "trips". I go shopping by myself several times a week. Once in a while I take my mother but tell her we only need fruits and vegetables so we don't need to go in the other isles. She still manages to pick up bags of nuts and bottles of wine. I don't know why I am laughing but that sounds funny. I feel guilty only taking her partial shopping but we do not have the money to buy all the things she sees. I hide food in my room otherwise it is gone in one day. You can probably play that game in your sleep about what do you want to eat. I bet you know what she will pick most of the time.

Red, I hope you have been relaxing and getting some ideas about a new hobby or adventure.

Lavender, Don't you wish you could be a fly on the wall for that one moment he finds out what you did? Good for you! Keep taking care of You!
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I love you guys have a so funny sense of good humors!! Specially "Hershey or Godiva?" LoL Keep it up!!
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CM Dandelion wine is pretty good. you could keep Mum busy picking the heads off them.
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Susan _ I am so sorry about your throat. There has to be something they can do for you. Take care of YOU!!!
Shiloh - Isnt it strange that you can fix them a great meal and they want something else/ At least it was something easy. Take care of YOU!!
Veronica - Yes, it will pass eventually. thaks Take care of YOU!!!
Turn - Welcome. You will find a bog dysfunctional family in here. We laugh, we cry, we vent and we make friends. Take care of YOU!!
CM - I have heard of Elderberry wine but I never heard of daisy wine. I an just see you trying to get some essence from the daisies. Hey, maybe you can use of garlic press. lol Take care of YOU!!!
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Hershey or Godiva?
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CM - You handled the situation well with your ex. I really don't mind it all that much. But, you have your Mom to get ready and fed. I remember doing that with my mom and it took a good deal of time. I love the name you called bro. Good Luck! Take care of YOU!!
Hi everyone - Bro called again this morning and acted like nothing had happened. Well, he started telling me how to look for a job. Which I am doing. Then we started talking about the realtor and how I told him that he did not have a problem with me calling him right back. I told him that he was treating me like a child. You can imagine what he said. If I acted ike an adult and answered my phone he would treat me like an adult then hung up on me. Now who is behaving like a 2 year old. So, today I called my phone company and had his number blocked from my phone. I have had enough stress in my like and after Saturday I was a nervous wreck. I did think about it before I did it but not for long. I don't want to be in the room when he finds out what I did. LOL Take care!!!
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Hey ladeeM is your last name Hershey by any chance?
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Thanks Shilo..... my relationship with my son is no longer stressful because I have taken the steps to get healthy with all of it... I love him. That never changes... what I am willing to put up with is a different story.... and if I can do this with my own child... then, really, who else on this earth is going to steal my power or serenity.... no one I can think of !!!! I have my moments with others, but I regroup very quickly and find solutions..... and yes, many of us have the same issues with our sibs..... but I don't volunteer to be anyone's victim anymore.... took a lot of work to get here, but it was so worth it.... so ya, follow moms lead and be happy..... hugs to you... and ANYTHING chocolate will work.... lol
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LadeeM, Right back at you. It is amazing how we all have similar backgrounds. My mother has had little contact with her children (my "ugly" siblings if you don't mind my using your word). I went through psychiatric therapy with her for 5 years on dealing with how her children treats her. In her last few sessions the therapist said my mother has dealt with the situation better than most and that I should take a page from her book. So...I don't have anything to do with them anymore. That is the extremely short version. I am sorry you have such a strained relationship with your son. multiple hugs today and double chocolate...fudge if you like
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LadeeC.... I am proud of you for being present for your sister..... I call mine the "Ugly Sisters", and have nothing to do with them... no anger, no resentment, have grown past all that.... but I am indifferent.... after a life time of the treatment you described, I just looked up one day and said, why am I doing this, why do I continue to put myself in the position to be treated this way..... we have very similar experiences, and I was never the sister that 'followed the rules'.....so, I got judgment and toxic shame.... so kudos to you for turning the other cheek.....
One thing I decided to do with this new year, was remove the toxic people from my life..... family members on the top of that list.... and some good healthy detachment from my oldest son...... I feel a deep peace that I have not felt for a long time....and along with that, another level of self honesty.... liberating and isolating at the same time.... learning how to 'be' in the world and not taking any crap off of anyone.....

The only issue in my life where I experience turmoil is with my work.... last night, L decided to take her bath at 2am, as opposed to 3am.... but I just let her do her thing, made sure she didn't fall, and let her live in her own little world... but we all know I don't want to be there, so, it's up to me how much Im going to let my emotions rule my time there....

Turn.... I like what Veronica said about saying anything that you need to, sans offending anyone else.... this thread was started because of very hurtful things said on another thread, years ago.... and because we maintain a sense of dignity for our self and others, we are still here, making new friends, laughing and crying together...... it is a safe place, and collectively we keep it that way..... so welcome again to YOU and hope you find what you need here....

It has been raining all day.... beautiful sleeping weather and we need the rain... so maybe I won't go to work tonight with a scowl on my face... then put the happy face on when I walk thru the door.....

Love and appreciate all of you...... Service Veterans are not the only ones who should be honored today.... Caregivers need a day too.....hugs, love, angels and chocolate..
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V, you are going to have to stop or I may have to call EMS for myself. I hear the sirens now. No really I do. Turn may start to turn into MIL and forget to put the brake on. They say CG's can develop dementia...forgetfulness. What was I talking bout? Don't remember what you been saying Veronica, just remember laughing. Could have been some of your posts on the other thread. You are TF.

Turn, Stand up, pat yourself on the back for what you have done already for your MIL! Now it is time to get some help. It can either be the MIL's children helping out or in home care. If her children don't want or can't spend the time then they can spend the money for home care. Either way they need to step up. You have opened your home (not to mention your heart) to your MIL. How dare her children abuse you as they have done!!!!! Please don't let it continue. You don't have to say but I am curious who has financial POA. Whomever does should step forward and work something out about paying for a caregiver. If they are unwilling to pay for it then I would have no problem letting them know you are no longer willing to have her stay at your home. Hand them NH brochures and give them a time table for them to make up their minds, caregiver several times a week or permanent placement in a facility. Don't let it take over your life anymore. IMO I would pick a caregiver over the children coming to help...the less I see of the ungreatful useless oh sorry there I go ranting but the backspace button isn't working at the moment. oh well, submit
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Turn glad to have you here.Sharing, advising and ocassionaly laughing is our aim. Feel free to vent, critisize ask questions nothing really is off limits as long as it is not unkind the other posters.
Could you put MIL on a slope by the lake and forget to put the brake on?????????????.
Would the SILs respond to guilt?
They are living in luxury and MIL is living with you in a trailer. Does't Mom deserve better than that???????????
You can actually refuse to take care of her anymore, others have done it before you. if the money is there to pay she can go into a nice facility. Failing that it is perfectly OK to use Mom's money to hire a caregiver so you can get more respite. Just tell them don't ask. not easy but if you don't stankd up to them they will contin ue to walk all over you.
Blessings
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Glad, ROFLMAO snack comment is too funny. It took everything I had not to bust out laughing when my mother stood in the doorway. I wanted to ask "tea for two?". I don't know how I managed a straight face. I think it was years of practice but that is a whole other story. Thumbs up to you about it possibly being an allergy reaction for Susan. I was going to suggest she take an anti-histamine (sp?).

LadeeC - Several things went through my mind when I read how you were doing today. Understanding as I have walked in your shoes...well maybe not YOUR shoes. Empathy doesn't seem to exist with useless siblings. What comes around goes around or what goes around comes around...whatever! The whatever was to myself. Hope you have a better rest of the day!
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Mother's new and uncharacteristic interest in the garden continues thus:

"Can't you make wine from daisies? I suppose not - there are too many of them. And someone would have done it by now."

I opened my mouth to reply and closed it again. Eh???

But then again, she's paying meaningful attention to the French Open tennis tournament, which is a big improvement on last year when she frankly didn't have a clue. Perhaps she can only be completely lucid about one thing at a time.
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Hey .. for those looking for the GOAT thread ... come have a laugh or two. https://www.agingcare.com/discussions/abbreviations-168663.htm
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Thanks, Glad -

It *could* be allergies - just odd that it never happened before the accident, but since then, it happens often. Could be just a coincidence, I guess. I do have allergies and 'tis the season for them.

I'd never been in such a severe accident before - it was definitely frightening and not something I want to do again. I still deal with some neck issues and had a blood clot form in my leg, but other than the expected bumps and bruises, I came out of it ok. My idiot SIL, who refused to wear a seatbelt, despite my asking him to (he told me he would buckle up, but never did), didn't fare as well, and filed a $30,000 personal injury claim against my auto insurance - and won. (Took him and my daughter all of 4 months to run through every penny, with nothing to show for it - but that's another story.)

Guess I'll take my allergy medicine and see if this nasty feeling in my throat goes away - thanks for the tip.
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Susan, that happens to me when allergies act up. Could that be causing your problem?

Scary accident, for sure! Sounds like you weren't injured too badly.
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oops, hit "submit" too soon.

A little concerned about myself today, physically-speaking. I had a bad rollover accident about a year and a half ago (hit black ice on an otherwise clear road and rolled the van 1.5 times into a ditch). The seatbelt came up around my neck and all of my body weight was thrown against the seatbelt as the van rolled over, which caused the seatbelt to cut into my neck. I had a nasty cut across the front of my neck, and the gland on the left side of my throat swelled up immediately after the accident.

I've noticed since then that the left side of my throat keeps feeling like it's closing up or swelling, and sometimes I have difficulty swallowing. Today is definitely one of those days. I feel like I can barely swallow, and it's only on that side. I've had a soft tissue study (xrays) done on that area to ensure there was no damage to the gland or the tissues around it, and they all came back negative, but I'm still having problems with it.

Getting a little frustrated with this...
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Reddog - congrats on the successful sale! I need to clean out Dad's garage, but can't seem to get all the siblings to get together at the same time to do it. I wanted to do it last summer, but it never happened, now it looks like it may not this year either. We will be gone on the only weekend that the city allows free yard sales (without having to purchase a permit), so I guess it will have to wait.

AandA - I like taking Mom shopping so she can get out of the house, but the problem is that she just wants to buy junk. She'll buy some fresh fruit, but no veggies, and then it's chips, pop, candy bars, cookies and sweets. She'll want sugary cereal and then never eat it (and neither will I), and the ice cream bars...holy cow can she go through those!

Book - be careful with that stuff! Could have been your eyes that got hit, not just your skin.

Lav - hang in there - I wish I could offer some other advice than that...the sibs are so hard to deal with sometimes.

Shilo - your post about the PB on toast made me laugh. Mom is SO food-focused, always looking for something to eat and asking me to make her something - but then we play the guessing game. I ask what she wants, and she says, "I don't know, what do we have?" - so I run down the list, and she says none of it sounds good. So I ask again what she wants, and again, she says, "I don't know, what do we have?" - until I finally suggest something (or three things, as she keeps turning each one down) until she finally decides on something that's acceptable.
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Turn how did it come about that you ended up looking after your husband's mother while her own daughters twiddle their thumbs and wait for the money? What's going on?
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Thank you. I've been fighting this battle alone with ma and know one has a clue what I go through daily and how difficult this is. No one understands why I just wanna cry. I suppose the think I'm weak and should just suck it up. But the worst is the only reason I'm doing this is because my greedy no help useless sisterin laws don't want the money to go to a home. They by god want their inheritance. And they don't care that it's at my expense and my aching back. It's nice to know that there is a place where you can vent and not be judged. I'm really glad I found this sight. I live 2blocks from the lake and beach. I'm gonna drag granny in her chair so she can throw bread at seagulls instead of throwing something ya me hahaha
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Hi Turnofthepage. My father had a mild stroke 2 years ago. He refused therapy because it "hurts." He refuses to get off the bed. He stayed about a 3 weeks in the hospital. While he was there, the doctor forced him to do PT or she would not release him to go home. So, in that time, he learned to speak better (not slurred), to feed himself (right hand work). Since his stroke, he's been going down the senility road fast. Doc hasn't declared him as being senile or having dementia. So, I describe his journey as the road to senility. Welcome to AC!
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My mother on law hates me even with advanced Alzheimer's. Even after her stroke she still hates me. Which is ok cause I'm not all that fond of her either. The funny part is she is 100%totally dependent on me. At least since her stroke she can't like kick, scratch, or dig me, she can't throw her dinner on floor. H*ll she can't even poop on floor and laugh about it any more. Yes she is a peach. 98# rattle snake is what she is. And if her eyes could shoot daggers is been dead oh about 15 years ago
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It's 905pm. Father's favorite song to sing is Red River Valley. A few months ago, he was able to sing the words. Just now, he asked me what is the song he likes to sing. So I told him the title. He said, "sing it to me." So, I sang only the few phrases that i know, "from this valley, they say you are going. We will miss your bright eyes and sweet smile. for they say you are taking the sunshine..." He then started singing it. But I noticed that he forgot most of the verses. Then he switched to our native language and was throwing in some naughty words of the sexual content. Then when he sang it in English, it was the cleaner version. Then back to the native language of naughtiness.
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Wow girls I know exactly what your saying. I've had my mom in law living with us since 2006. She has advanced Alzheimer's and had major stroke in March. Now can't walk or talk completely Incontinent and on purée diet. Her two daughters never ever help me. But the one daughter is really good at wanting moms money and hired a attorney cause she think we are stealing money from mom. The worst part of this is I half to be focused on mom 24/ 7 this added stress is bringing hubby and me down. Sister has not a care in the world. They have beautiful home on Lake Michigan, corvettes , 2 Lincoln navigators and the list goes on. We live in a mobile home. I'm waiting very patiently for karma also. But it probably won't happen. What's the saying the rich get richer and the poor only get poorer. Ah karma it's a beautiful thing
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Oh, what I’d give for the usual mum-in-law woes,
I’d gladly swap dementia for some of those,
Yes, that with Alzheimers I’d happily switch,
Even if it meant mum-in-law was a complete bitch…

If I could swap with dementia, I really wouldn’t mind,
She could criticise my cooking whenever we dined,
She could my lax housekeeping openly deride,
If it meant no Alzheimers, I’d take it all in my stride…

She could give me dilapidation cream on Christmas Day,
I would smile and say thank you – keep conflict at bay,
She could imply I’m not good enough for her beloved son,
Still better than Alzheimers, when all’s said and done…

Could disapprove of the age gap (though got a point there),
As long as she had her sanity, I just wouldn’t care,
She’d be quite welcome to never let me forget,
That I have not made her a grandmother yet…

She could make little put-downs and snide remarks,
I’d just smile to myself as she attempted to snark,
And in private husband and I fun would poke,
Rehash all the old Les Dawson mum-in-law jokes…

But the Alzheimers relationship is somewhat perverse,
All of the usual in-law power play is reversed,
She can’t afford to niggle, nag, criticise,
Cause she knows that upon us she completely relies…

Oh, would it really be too much to ask,
To have just the usual mum-in-law battle-axe??
While I’m sure that would prove it’s own misadventure,
It’s still better than a mum-in-law with dementia…
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Karma finally came knocking at their doors, LadeeC. I keep waiting for it to visit my siblings. There was a time when I was drowning with caregiving 2 bedridden parents all by myself here. Oldest sis only moved in recently. But with 7 siblings, not one of them offered to help me care for our 2 bedridden parents. Not their problem. I remember one night, staring out into the darkness, praying so hard for karma to visit all of them. I was so filled with anger, hatred, bitterness. It was a time when I became seriously suicidal - because that was the only way out that I could find. I made a lousy Christian because I have problem forgiving people. I'm still working on it. Thank goodness I have a super sensitive conscience! That helped me to not act out my thoughts of revenge. Because karma would have definitely come knocking on my door - several times over.

As I read your words, I felt the hurt in my chest. Sheesh, I'm crying. You reminded me of the pain I went thru. It's like my therapist said, "Your siblings just keep burning you." {{{Hugs}}}
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I'm venting. Totally non-caregiver related .. this is how I'm doing ..

A little background: I spent 30-odd years working in admin fields, was very good at my job and generally enjoyed my work; when I got bored, I moved on. Never borrowed any money. Held my own. I decided at 50-something to venture into odd jobs and self-employment. When I truly realized that I'm not entrepreneurial material, decided to go back to the work field. Hit that age/glass ceiling that no one will cop to. One look at my resume and I got responses like, "I feel like I'd be getting a Gucci bag for the price of a walmart knockoff." Yeah ... like I care! Hire me. Making a longer story, shorter, the next 3 or 4 years I took the odd jobs I found and managed to make my expenses, still holding my own. Economy gets worse, and everything I'd done resulted in no long term employment, all my savings were tapped and I finally reach out for help. Now, when I say "every thing I'd done .. " that meant EVERYthing possible, with the exception of literally walking door to door (which in this day and age is simply not an acceptable way of applying for a job). Want to guess my family's response? It wasn't pleasant. It was NOT supportive. I did my best, and landed here (thank the gods) and all turned out well, including a span of time actually homeless (an experience I treasure, btw). I also believe in Karma.

Within the year of my reaching out to my family and being spurned, every one of them lost their job or their business. My sister, the judgmental thorn in my side, lost her job to attrition, got unemployment for 3 years, plus had a healthy retirement fund. All the while she was on UI, I kept prompting her with suggestions: "Check out their retraining programs before the program ends." "Have you checked to see if you're eligible for disability? Might want to get on that before the funds run out." I'm just the older, know-it-all sister, but what do I know? She spent down her savings, ran out of UI, decided to apply for disability and is now crying. A lot. I'm being very supportive and doing what I can. I said something like, "Yeah, I can relate." and it went in one ear and out the other, like I never said it. Like I didn't have a similar experience. Like she's the only one who ever suffers pain. *sighs* Karma.
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Turn, welcome we all go through so much additional difficulty because of family members that JUST DO NOT GET IT!

Shiloh, I have to ask, was the snack for mom or the bear?
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You know that I don't know who this going to but I found this site a couple days ago. And thank god. Just reading different things that everyone is going through makes me realize I'm not alone. If I had support and conversation if nothing else but vent my own anger, resentment and all these pent up feelings I would cope so much better. I want to thank everyone of you out there. Cause I now know that I'm not alone. Don't get me wrong there has been a lot of funny shit and oh boy the stories I could share. My mom in law has been living with us for 8 verrrrry long years now she is 90, with Alzheimer's and suffered major stroke in early march. Just released from rehab Wednesday. Now she is gone on right side and on that purée diet. Wouldn't be so bad but we own a concession trailer that we have to open on memorial wk end every year now here it sits with a huge food order Pepsi order and icecream order that is not makin us money. And where is her own daughters? Well let's see, one is jet settin around god knows where and the other one who has more money than god is too worried about gettin attorneys cause she wants to make sure that we are keeping track of that f-ing bar of soap we bought her Ect . Really sorry but I'm in total b*tch mode right now. This dis functional family would drive a same person to f-in Alzheimer's. Thanks for letting me vent. Gotta go its time for me to put the little mean old lady on the john.
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