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Lav I would not want to work for a company that expected me to pay for the background check that is their responsibility if they want one. You are not required to divulge your age or medical history either especially the meds you take. They can and probably will insist on a drug test.
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Book you do good girl. Laddee M is an expert on emptying bags. I just put em in and take 'em out. never was taught for men ( not something young girls should do 50 years ago) So my first experience was here with hospice. I was told men are far easier than women and the first part of the instructions was "Grasp the shaft and pull it up like a gear lever......." Well I thought "in for a penny in for a pound" the last one of those I held I was married to.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Glad –- Wow! To be able to actually attend Teepa’s tour in person. I hope you come on and tell us what it’s like to see her in person. I’d love to hear your experience.
Lav –- I did not know that job applicants have to pay the cost for the company to do background checks. That’s like adding insult to injury – if they don’t hire you. That’s like how the airlines now charge you for your checked baggage And now your meals on the plane. We spend like $2000.00 on air ticket and we also now must spend $ for the meals. I can understand if we paid only $300.00 for a ticket. I can see the loss of doing business by providing free meals per person. I mean just fuel surcharge alone is about $600.00 of the ticket price. $355.00 is a lot of money for a person who is applying at different companies. No wonder a lot of people don’t have a job. You have to have money to even get a foot in the door. =(
CM –- thanks, though. I keep telling myself that but I guess it isn’t working as I thought it would. Oh, well. That’s life. You do what you have to do.
Veronica –- When I read your first sentence, I was confused. What nursing books? Then I ‘caught on’ to your comment. I chuckled. That helped a lot to prepare me for the rest of your words. I’m really glad you did go to details. Because I would have tried googling more info on it and then ‘wing it’ on my own. Oops… I won’t tell you how often the exit of the bag touched the jar full of urine. Let’s just say it’s like 99% of the time. I will now have to raise the bag higher when it comes to emptying it.
57twin – Hi!
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57twin.... guess that's why we get to have the memories for them.
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attended a bridal shower for my godson's fiancee and my hubby was with my dad as we had to pick up some equipment from our property we own.
Did't feed him lunch so they came over to my SIL after the shower and I fixed my dad a plate. Dad did manage to lose my sunglasses I had in the truck. He is eating a late dinner now but when I asked what he did today he doesn't remember a single thing. *sigh*.
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Since sis did not cook rice lastnight, no fried rice, eggs and hot sausage today for breakfast (and lunch). I don't care for cooking. So if I can make enough to last for 2 meals - I'm a happy camper.

I've watched and re-watched several videos on how to make a hole in the bread egg breakfast. I'm now ready to try it first time now. This time, since I know sis will end up eating my 2nd portion of my breakfast (even though she only cooks for herself but has no hesitation at all in eating My cooked food), I will have to make extras for her. Otherwise, my 2nd portion (for lunch) will be eaten (not by me). So, 3 egg sandwich to go and some fried hot sausages on the side.
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Thanks, Veronica. No one told me that I had to do this. I only found it last night when I tried to figure out how to properly wash the plastic bin. The govt caregivers use this to fill up with warm water to Rinse dad when they sponge bathe him. My very first click on Google opened up to cleaning blood on the catheter. I tell you, dad must have someone 'upstairs' looking after him. Because Not One Nurse in all the times they came to visit him, explained to me what I just found in Google.

Thanks for the detailed instructions. The one I found in Google did not go into detail like you did. It just said what I wrote earlier. You and I know that eventually I'm going to end up doing it no matter how much I don't want to. As long as I don't have to insert that tube IN his penis, I'm fine. I copied and pasted your info on my desktop file "Dad's Urinary." I sooooo appreciate your very Practical Advice! {{{HUGS}}}
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Good to see you back Veronica !!!
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Oh Book you have been ignoring all the nursing books again BUT you do have a way out. Those govt caregivers that come in to give dad his bath every day should also be cleaning his penis. I am afraid it has to be done especialy if he still has a foreskin.
Now take a deep breath or two, be a brave girl, and continue to read.
First of all hang up the handle to his pully so he can't hit you with it. After you change his Pamper and all the poop is cleaned up before you fix the sides. get a clean washbowl some warm water and soap and a clean wash cloth and towel or use paper towels (The "good" ones that don't fall apart.). Lay a towel under the offending part and turn your back to his face. Pick up the penis in one hand and with the other pull back the foreskin to reveal the head. OK another deep breath. Take your soapy cloth and wash around the catheter then around the rest of the penile head. Rinse well in clear water to get all the soap off. If there are any crystals under the foreskin leave that for a real nurse, they have been there for years so a few more days won't hurt. See you have both survived. Caked on blood around a catheter is not a good thing.
When you empty a catheter bag you should wear gloves as you should with any personal care. Do not disconnect the bag from the catheter. Wipe the outlet to the bag with a spirit swab and empty it into a container at the bedside. Don't allow the end of the exit to the bag to touch the container. Wipe the end again and close it up. Dispose of the urine in the toilet and rinse the container.
Write a very nasty note to whoever left a bowl of bloody urine in the bathroom.
You should be given a new collection bag once a week. There should be a hole at the top of the bag that can be hooked to the bed with an S hook or just tied up with a piece of string. if the urine is not draining look to see if there are any big clots in the tubing. You may be able to squeeze them and milk them down the tube into the bag.
Sorry I know that is far more than you wanted to know. At least you know what to do even if you choose not to do it.
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You are going to get a turn Lav, because you have been doing the right things for the right reasons...... and you have many reasons to resent your brother.... but he has guilt about your mom that is going to always be a shadow in his soul.. so even if things go good for him.... he has that to live with..... and you don't..... you will get a break..... because you will see to it.... you will do what needs to be done, just like with mom..... so hang tight, won't be long and you will be on here telling us about your new job.... lots of hugs and prayers to you Lav !!!
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LadeeM - Thanks for what you said. It is like when am I going to get mine. My can get dumped into a pile of crap and come out smelling like a rose. Makes me so jealous of him. Maybe that is why I resent him. Hugs and Chocolate to you too. Take care of YOU!!!!
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Not the physical aspect of caregiving father. It's the psychological one. You know that book some people recommend here on AC about how the author stated that those who suffered childhood abuse should not be their parent's caregiver? There's a very valid reason why he/she said that. It's truly not a matter of "getting used to it." Every time I thought that I finally got over it, and used to it - wham! out of the blue, it hits me.

I never thought to see if the original poster responded to all of you hijacking her subject and turning it around. At least now she knows where to go if she runs across an acronym she doesn't understand.
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Shilo it's soooo funny!! Unfortunately I don't think she appreciates our humor... Or anyone's...
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Shilo..... it's " Abbreviations get my GOAT!"...... poor thing... we haven't heard another word from her.... but read the whole thing.... it is so funny.....
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Mom you need to take a shower.. I took one yesterday!..No you didn't.. I really don't want to.. It's a hell of a birthday when I have to do things I don't want...It's cold in here..

TS - tough *hit
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Book, I agree about you getting help when it comes to cleaning your dad. I would try to find help right away.

LadeeM, I missed "the thread" you mentioned. Can you post it again.
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Book about cleaning around your father's catheter, I can hear my psychiatrist SIL saying "that is not appropriate." Very matter of fact. There's an almost biblical-feeling no-no about it.

With my mother, the inhibitions around seeing her in the bath, helping her clean up after toileting and so on have gradually fallen away; so I HOPE that as her needs increase I'll be able to adjust (not without qualms). But if it had been my dad, well. I don't know. It just is different.

If you feel this is something you're not going to be able to manage, I think you should perhaps be clear about that with his medical team and get them to supply support, if possible. I don't think you're being unreasonable or squeamish, but if it's important to his wellbeing then it needs to be done by somebody else.

I'm so sorry to have been right about your dress. I had a cashmere jumper I adored and tried everything to get rid of that faint but pervasive odour, then eventually I threw it away in a really foul mood - it's SO frustrating.
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Book, I would not be able to do that either. Insurance would pay for someone to take care of that a couple times a week, I would think and certainly hope. I know his doctor would have to order it. Time for help with some of these things that are difficult for you!
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Tell me about it! Wanna switch parents for a while? Like, right now????
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Oh Book all I can say is YUCK!
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I wasn't here when the nurse came. She emptied dad's bloody urine into his plastic wash basin (for his sponge baths). When I came home, the basin is on the bathroom floor with dried blood on it. We keep a big jar in the bathroom near the toilet. This jar is for emptying the urine. I just finished googling how to clean a plastic of dried blood/urine. We have basic cleaning supplies here. I gave up. After I change his pamper (he has touched inside and I know the poop has left the pamper by the smell emanating in the air), I will check to see if we still have Clorox.

Anyway, I got distracted in my googling. Did you know that I'm not suppose to allow the urine bag from touching any surfaces? Well, I read that and looked at it dangling and touching the towel on the floor. Did you know that I'm suppose to clean the area where the catheter goes in? I've been avoiding it all this time when I changed his pamper. Did you know that I'm suppose to wipe the catheter's spigot with alcohol? Did you know that I'm not suppose to make the bag get full?

Well, I did NOT know all that. When they inserted the foley the first time, I asked the nurse and doctor how do I disconnect it so that I can empty the urine in the toilet. The doctor had this look of horror. The nurse said that I should not try to disconnect the bag. I just need to use a jar and drain the urine in it. I stared at the bag trying to figure out how to make the urine come out. I asked how. He said to just press down on the switch. Like I'm suppose to know what it looks like it. I stared at the whole bag trying to figure out what part was the switch. He pointed it to me. So, I asked him, "Can you show me how to do it?" I squatted down with him and watched Where he pressed on the bag. The next urine bag he replaced did not have the snap. I stared it and then asked sis how do I unlock it. This had a switch that you move from left to right.

Yes, yes, anyone with common sense would know how to operate this without being told. But I don't have one. And so I ask questions. When I still don't understand verbal instructions, then ask to show me how. I'm more of a visual person than verbal.

Ugh! I'm going to have clean him THERE?!?! You know, I haven't been doing it all these months. Can't I just continue to Not do it? I don't think I can do it. I've not been a thorough caregiver when it comes to cleaning his male private part. I just can't do it. I've been uhm... skipping cleaning that area all this time. Even before he had the catheter. I cannot do it while he's lying there, looking at me touching him there. He's just going to have to suffer repeated infection. Gosh, I'm tearing up. Darn conscience is going to fight me on this. Venting here because I'm trying to prolong not changing his pamper which the poop has been touched and most likely is no longer where it belongs.
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Thanks everyone. At least it will be one meal I don't have to cook!

LadeeM keep bugging her until you get your money!

Lab blowhard? You get stuff done, nothing wrong with that!
About the water bill. Just go done there and shove the canceled check in the ladies face.. That way you'll be done with the whole thing until next bill comes! One less thing to think about...
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You are not being a blowhard Lav.... its just that now that you life is not consumed with Caregiving, you are fighting for what you deserve.... and what you need.... but you keep plugging away, there is a job, just for you....something you will enjoy doing, that pays well, and you will have some peace of mind....I know what it's like to have no one to depend on but myself.... and you know how tired I am of doing what I do.... but it is what it is... and if I want to do my dream job, then I have to make it happen....

And I've always 'had a pair', my problem has always been knowing when to keep my mouth SHUT.....LOL.. like you, I am just not happy in my situation... but we are both doing what needs to be done to find what we are looking for..... apparently neither one of us has much patience anymore..... but that's ok too.... a hundred years from now it will not matter that you hung up on that lady today..... you are stressed and needing some thing to come together for you.... it will happen.... just hang on a little while longer.... you are worth the work you are putting in to make things right for yourself..... hugs and chocolate to you my friend....
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LadeeM - I am so glad that you grew a pair of you know what. I think the older I get the more hutzpah we get. Hey, I spelled that right LOL Take care of YOU!!!The job hunt is kind of going oaky but today was a downer. I went to a insurance company and the guy asked me how old I was. The guy said before he asked said that he knew we did not have to know but. I had to tell him my age. When I did that I felt (oh my god no one is going to hire me). Well anyway there were a lot of people were there. They gave a little ditty about the company and there is where the problem came in. I would have to fork over $355.00 for a background check and license to sell insurance. I spent 8 years of my life getting a degree and now I need to have a masters degreed to do what I really wanted to do. Boy, do I sound depressed I guess I am.But, I am waiting on another company that will be contacting me soon about coming in for an interview though. Also, the water company called to say that my water would be turned off. I knew I had paid it and checked with the bank. I called the water company and told them and they still don't have a record of it. They wanted me to come by and show them my statement. I hit the roof and told them that I had already wasted my gas once today and hung up..I will call again Monday. I guess I had just had enough. Oh well I let it out but I felt sorry for the person on the phone.. But I will get over it. Boy, I am a blowhard today. Ya'll take care of you.
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*martyr* Not marry..... LOL.... if I am this tired, I should at least proof read before I hit submit......
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Oh I'm going to get my money..... you can count on that....the daughter is a marry...she makes me soooooo tired..... had an ugly divorce some time back and has found her 'calling' with being overworked and underappreciated..... and she could cut her work load in half if she would just LET GO and let the caregivers do our d*mned job..... she walks and talks 90 mph..... doesn't hear anything I say, then comes back later with questions about what I just told her..... and I'm already tired.... when I called her about the unpaid hours, she dared to question me.... I finally got angry and said.... You owe me $$$, and Im going to hang up now...... she is so scattered and overwhelming..... I hate having to talk to her at all...
Ya, I'll get my money Lav.... I am not that old ladee that would have stayed, no matter what.... that kind of loyalty died when I worked for C..... I am not the same person.... and in some ways that is good.... I am at a new level of self honesty...... and in many ways it is very liberating.... isolating also.... as I feel I don't always have someone to share with, the way I am feeling and thinking now.....I don't mean you guys, I mean f2f,,,,,, (that last one is surely going to upset the lady that posted about our 'abbreviations' getting her goat...)

By the way, that thread has turned into a fun place.... yall might want to read it... and of course contribute.....poor lady has created a monster and didn't have a clue what was going to happen.....but we are having fun... and we so rarely get to do that....

So Lav, if for some reason my getting my pay turns into a 'thing', you will hear the explosion all the way to your house..... hope you are doing well... How is the job hunt going...??? hugs and chocolate to you !!!!
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Oh and Teepa Snow is doing some sort of tour. She is in Denver June 6. I'm going, anybody else? Check with Alzheimer's association for dates in other cities.
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AandA.
Sounds as bad as Christmas! Birthdays are that way here. Narc sis always wants a big July party for herself and any others in July. Problem is all those others are my kids and they have other things that they want to do. BOO HOO says narcsis.
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I am laughing my head off finally oh that was good thanks twocents it was good but bad lol
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assandache, I hope everyone of those useless siblings stays away. No need to say more there. Even though your mother will complain about all those things, I hope you will smile, laugh and enjoy the lunch time with your mother. Too much huh? Can you try for 2 out of 3? Maybe just enjoy the food you eat at lunch, how does that sound? I'm getting hungery already. Where did you say you're going for lunch?
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