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Stormy-EMS is a great idea, you might also want to go online and look for the proper ways to help someone up from the floor, or talk to a PT/OT who can show you. The last thing you want is to wind up on the floor next to your Dad!
Soooz-The Joel Olsteen book sounds good. I've listened to some of his sermons on tape. And today I was thinking that I need to start focusing on the good each day, because if I keep waiting for a parent-free, child-free, dog-free house to be happy, I'm going to be a very old woman before that happens.
Astrada-Welcome! Do you ever see those sayings about how special sisters are, and think they were written just for you??? You should - it sounds like you are an awesome, if tired, sister. Please come back and share with us how you are doing.
Burned-I am not going to repeat all that's been said already, though I agree with it. This is my 2 cents: When we share our frustrations, we often do it in a way that helps us find the humor in the situation. I doubt that any of us are laughing at the moment our charges are screaming about bombs in burgers, or wiping poo into art on the walls, or telling us yet again that we aren't good enough. But we are specific, and we learn to laugh at alot of it. You describe your situation the same way every time, without specifics, and then we and you are not able to take it apart and put it in it's place. It's overwhelming to me to read your posts - there is no glimmer of hope in what you say. And not enough information to make me understand why you would stay in a situation where you are upset all the time. Do you need us to tell you that you need to re-think where you are at and work at making the future better? I think we are telling you that. I do not mean to hurt you-this is the only way I can figure out to help.
Book-I can't swim, and I don't own a Moses staff (I have a magic wand, but that's a different story), but I will ask you all to tremble before me as the Worst Driver. Sorry, girlfriend, ALMOST hitting things just aint enough! What did you do an hour after getting your licence? I took Dad's car to the car wash and hit a pole! And that wasn't the only pole I ever hit - they seem to keep jumping out in front of me. Hmm. Oh, and I'm still married to the man who walked out of the church on our wedding day and the first words from his new bride (me) were "By the way, dear,I hit a car this morning." Who let me drive on my wedding day anyway??? And if you think I've gotten better in my wise old age (stop laughing now :) we wheel our patients at work on beds/carts, from their rooms to the procedure room. I've hit the walls so many times, the scrub tech won't let me push the patients by myself, and tells them it's safer if he is helping! The fiend! So you are lucky I don't live on your island or no one would ever walk around with the two us of driving LOL
Ladee-Please give M a birthday hug for me. And stay away from Thang - it's not your party and you can't cry, even if you want too! :) Seriously, any overt meaness to her and she'll make it seem like you are out to get her or turning M against her. Keep your cool. Hugs.
Good night, and better tomorrows.
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Sharyn.....from ur profile pic, no one would EVER imagine u had a forked tongue!!!
I just refuse to believe that ur anything less than the beautiful face that greets us all, everyday.....I, on the other hand, do hold a striking resemblance to my profile pic, but i will most certainly stand up wen i meet u.....LOL...im not THAT rude!!!!
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Beck~LOL!!! Don't tame your tongue girl, believe me I may not be the brightest crayon in the pack, rough around the edges. I can be very blunt when backed in a corner...hubby says I have a forked tongue...saying things with a double meaning. I guess I haven't revealed my true self. I will work on that but hubby also said I have mellowed with age. Bring your "itch" and I will bring my forked tongue and we will have a great time!!!
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O hell..Sharyn....wat do u mean u look angry all the time...un-approachable....n scared?????? NOW u tell me, right before our first meeting!!!!.....Well....looks like i have my work cut out for me, now doesnt it! ..No worries.....i love a challenge...i wont tell u wat people think of me wen first meeting me, but it rhymes with "itch"....LOL...but i'll tame the "itch" within wen we meet.....Bwhahahahaha!!
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Ok...I know I am too nice. However Ladee, I do tread softly with a big stick!!! Lol!!! I think you should just be yourself, acknowledge Thang like you would anyone else and then go about your business with those you are more connected to. It's funny you say that because I have always been told by others that I look angry all the time and unapproachable. My new bakery/deli manager says I look scared all the time, Lol!!! Enjoy the birthday party and I love your comment!!!
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Well, Pondscum, we aren't local, but will we do?? This is the place for us to have the saftey of having our feelings, not be judged, because we all feel like you do.... hope you come back and join us , tell us how you feel, maybe even have a laugh or two....
If your mom never had any hobbies, I can't think of anything off the top of my head, I'm sure others will....

Tomorrow is M's bday.... one of the girls will be making her home made enchaladas, we'll have cake and coffee for her and some of her friends, and we'll all have dinner together.... sounds like fun , right? well, ya, all except for THANG being there.... ok, ya'll, here's ya'll's chance to give me some pointers on how to behave in a room full of people with THANG ..
Ya'll know my mind is spinning like a top.... but I'm hearing Sharyn in my head saying, 'be nice Ladee'..... ohhhhh allll right then.....
hope ya'll are having a good evening....love and hugs.
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You have to swallow your pride sometimes and ensure them that everything is going to be alright. What an elderly person used to be able to do in their younger years and cannot do nowadays is problematic, not only for you but for them as well. It's got to be so painful for them. They used to maybe love doing that one simple task but cannot do it anymore, even though it seems simple to the Caregiver. I do know that this can cause depression in the elderly because they think that they're useless to Society, but they are'nt. Just continue to love them and ensure them that everything will be okay.
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I've been taking care of my elderly Mother going on almost a year now. She had a serious fall about 1-1/2 years ago and was in and out of the hospital and spent several months in a Nursing Home's Bounce Back Center before we brought her home. After witnessing the care, or lack of, at the Nursing Home, I decided she was'nt ever going back into one of those places again. She called it a Prison. You went to bed when they told you to...you woke up when they told you to...you ate when and what they told you to and you used the bathroom when they wanted you to. Anyhow, she's back in her home again. I worked for close to 20 years in the field of Emergency Medical Services and when I left that Profession, I vowed never to do anything Medical again, but here I am taking care of my Mother, but on a Voluntary Basis. She took care of me when I was sick and injured when I was younger and now the tables have turned and I'm honored to do this for her. She just sits around bored for the most part and never had any Hobbies or Crafts she was interested in during the past. What's a good, simple hobby or craft that an elderly person can do? I cannot find anything that appeases to her. Any ideas? Then comes the stress on me, the Caregiver. In EMS, all of my attention went to my patients and I did'nt take care of myself or my health, and now it's all coming back to haunt me again. I have done something about my BP and have gotten an Rx to control that, but my overall general health is going down the crapper as is my dental health. I try to stay as busy as possible outdoors around the house working in flowerbeds and on household projects in an attempt to diffuse my stress, but somedays I'm fine and others I'm ready to drive my fist through a wall. I wish there was a local discussion group available so people like me could express our feelings on this topic, but there is'nt.
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Book had to laugh out loud about us corrupting you... see what a smart woman you are... bad associations spoil useful habits...... but think of the fun youd' have..... we promise not to blow smoke in your face, those that drink promise not to breathe on you.... and Jam needs help cooking.... she tends to whine when things get complicated, so she'll need your help.... wouldn't that be so much fun tho.... if it comes to pass you are more than welcome,,,, love ya...
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Welcome Astarda, glad you dropped in to tell us hi and let us know what is going on with you... sounds like it's been a long time since you've had any kind of break, so please come back and tell us how you are... we all relate to wanting to pull our hair out, or someone elses'.... if you can't get out, and I hate that for you, at least you can come here, tell us how you are feeling, and we'll let you know you aren't alone.... we get silly here sometimes, and that is a good break for all of us.... laughter truly is the best medicine..... as Jam says, we'll leave the light on for ya.... hugs to you.
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Hi Stormy Is there any service to help you -there was no way I could pick my husband up when he fell-we have 911 we call and the call is answered right away and they send EMS if needed or a cop or in my case tow or vol. fireman and there is no charge at times we would take a pizza to the police station and buy tickets for the firemen benefits. even if you got a lift it needs two people to operate it-I do not know what is available in your part of the country.
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Good Morning Angels!! Woke up this morning to sunshine and 40 degrees....brrrrrr! Only in the Midwest can it be chilly in the morning and the air conditioner running in the afternoon.
Welcome to our new posters.....happy to see you here!
book......since you don't swim and I swim like a rock, I will need help cooking for this group. Target looks at me like I'm nuts...he's a Master Diver....but I've always said my mother tried to drown me when I was small.....I'm sure that's not true, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it! I don't like driving either, but it's a necessary evil and since Target has had all his health issues I have had to take over all the driving.
burned....I am not going to add much to what I said to you earlier and what everyone else has said to you, except for one thing and please bear with me.....you have often spoken of how verbally abusive your husband is to you. You do not have to resort to yelling, screaming, cussing or being abusive yourself, but it's time to tell that husband you will NOT tolerate anymore verbal slamming of you....that you are doing the best you can with what you have to work with. You can do this with a calm voice and it will get you further that blasting him with hateful and hurtful words. There is something frightening about a woman who quietly and calmly states HOW IT IS GOING TO BE. Then start focusing on making a life for yourself and your children. You have come to a crossroad in your life and it's time for some changes.
Today I'm going to get my handy-dandy paintbrush out and get to work. I'm so tired of this.....I know ladee, you told me to stop asking our handyman to do things around here......he is absolutely perfect with woodworking, he custom built all of my kitchen cabinets and they are beautiful, but when it comes to paint he sucks! He patched a small area on my bathroom ceiling but for some odd reason didn't cover the whole spot, so while we were gone he got the paint out to finish painting and instead of ceiling paint he used the BRIGHT WHITE trim paint and now there is a big blinding white spot and I have to paint the entire ceiling! It is so high I'm thinking I will probably have to hire someone else to come do it.....I don't do heights either. But I can paint the trim in my bedroom and start working on Target's "man room".....that's the equivalent of a man cave......:)
Nothing new to report on the col............she's very happy this week with her surroundings....next week she will probably swear she's been incarcerated again!
Love and Hugs and Peace to all of you today and everyday!!
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Hi everyone, just checking in. Nothing new to report on dad or anyone else. Except well dad did fall sunday. He fell in the den and i was in the kitchen and i heard a loud bang. I went running in there and he is on the floor. He had just got out of the shower and he had his boxers on but that was it. So he got on his knees and i got under his arms and started trying to lift him. Anyway he got in his chair, scared the shit out of me. My nerves were shot. He is ok his knee is just sore i guess where he fell. But he was dead weight so he had to help me. Dad is like 6'2 and weights 206. Well i got for now. Ya'll take care. Love and hugs stormyyy
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Burned, I thought you were in Sierra Vista for some reason. Sorry about that. I don't know why I thought you came to Phoenix every so often for doctor appointments. Wouldn't you be better off closer to the city, and not so remote and in a closed knit place?

Astarda - I think your comment got lost in the shuffle a bit, aside from Bookworm addressing you (she's amazing, btw). It sounds like you have every right to want to pull your hair out. I don't have much advice for you but I know there are others here who will. They always do. I just wanted to let you know that you've been heard - and hang on!

Cat, Joel Osteen sounds like he's been hanging around my bro.
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Have you seen Joel Olsteen on the news today? He has a new book ... 31 promises, the power of words. He talks about waking up each day and being thankful for the day and then he gives 31 statements/affirmations to say when we get up in the morning. He says no matter how challenging if we can start on a positive note, it's more helpful than the alternative, no matter how overwhelming our challenges. He and his wife have been helpful to me in the past. I'm going to check out this book... I hope the library gets it soon.... and I hope it may be helpful to others too. You are beautiful inside and out for all your are doing for others !! Have a great day!
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Austin, I do that all the time with father. When he tells me something, he expects it right away. I ignore him. When he finally gets on my nerves, I tell him straight out. I'm busy and I will get to it as soon as I'm done.

Burned, I've read your posts since the time I started here. Most of the time, I'm lost on your commenting. You jump all over the place. When I read the others comments to you, I finally figured out what you're saying. Since I'm single with no children, I didn't feel I have any real knowledge to help you with the kids/husband. Plus, what I may advice you to do - well, it will be from a Single Woman's point of view and not a Married person's viewpoint. So, I keep silent.

Hi Astarda - Welcome to this site. So sorry about your sister. And age 57 too... Based on this site and the age of most of the caretaking patient, I feel for you. I was typing more info but my brain just got all fuzzy from tiredness. Have you tried calling around for any "free" programs that your sister can qualify? Like disability? My niece's ex-boyfriend suffered from a stroke in his early 20's. He's about 26 years old now. But he gets a monthly disability check. Any programs out there that might fit your sister's situation? I'm sorry, but it's really getting difficult for me to think. 1030pm here and still need to do mom's trache. Take care!!!
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Burned I can not really add to what these great ladies have said to you but this one thing when I was feeling like you and deep in the black hole what helped me was to make one small change to start with-I pretended to not hear my husband bellowing at me and continue doing house cleaning and after about 15 min. say very sweetly did you need something I could not hear you with the vacumne running-after you make one small change and the sky does not fall down the next change is easier. I have one suggestion-please just listen to me -the people who are living with you should be able to entertain your husband for an hour or two to give you a break-take a nap-then go out and get a ice cream cone or take a walk by yourself-something to give yourself a break-I want you to post that you have done this for yourself.
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FYI, I’m working my way from 2 days ago postings to current date. So, you will see me posting several times trying to catch up.

Jam, I may be living in an island surrounded by water, but I also don’t know how to swim. I can float but tend to sink. Too skinny, no body fat to make me buoyant. I sink easily. Cat won’t let me drive. She’s like my family – they all think I’m a terrible driver. Okay, okay, so I had to take the written test several times in 2 years. And okay, I had to take the driver’s ed class twice. Okay, so I was doing a U-turn and forgot to take into account that the truck had a LONG flatbed and I almost rammed into it. But I didn’t! See, I am good driver. Okay, so I almost hit the 2 tourists who were jaywalking instead of using the traffic signal light that was like 20 feet away from me. (Same niece was with me both times. Now she volunteers to drive us!)

Well, if Jam is not going, then I’m not going. I don’t drink or smoke or swim. You guys will be corrupting me. In all seriousness, the one time I was on the waters, I had really bad seasickness. Ain’t ever going on the water again – unless it’s work related. Unless beck’s staff is magical and will help us float?
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Bookworm~When you start sharing whether it is in therapy or a support group, it brings back many feelings that you thought you had dealt with but hadn't. When I started therapy, I had vivid dreams of my daughter and me being abused in the form of the two of us being raped. It wasn't reality but it manifested the childhood abuse and how I was trying protect my daughter from being abused. I believe that because when I was growing up women where still treated as though their thoughts, feelings, and anything emotional were childlike and not important so my dream state manifested it as my daughter being me as a child and me as the mother I never had who was doing everything to protect her daughter. You will find many things will come up and you will have to think about it before reacting to your emotions. Any type of sharing will bring out vulnerable fears. Stay strong my sister, you are worth it!!! (((HUGS)))
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Hey Book, happy to see you here.... sorry the sadness is still hanging around, but you realizing it reminds you of a childhood hurt is good, to me, that means the 'deep' hurts are healing... I know it sucks... but my personal opionion and experiance, only those that can hanlde it keep on moving forward... and you do... beleive it or not, this will pass, it really will.... I can remember a time in my own healing that even to take a deep breath hurt...
I wish Burned would read you from the begining, she could learn so much from you, you are a teacher Book, for me also, in regard to my son, I am learning from you how to just keep moving, to feel what I feel, not let it stop me, not let it define me, just feel it and move forward....
So wish you a less tired day, a little lighter heart, and lots and lots of love.... hugs across the miles to you....
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Hi, I am a caregiver for my sister. Some days it feels like I want to pull my hair out. She got cancer at age 57 and so far ir has not returned . But she has a chemical imbalance in her brain and takes meds for this among several meds .
I have 2 other sister,s who refuse in anyway to help with her, so I am all she has .
It is a very hard job, her peeing in the floor , or going naked through the house , this is not even getting into her falling , the many accidents she has . I am tired all the time from no sleep as she will get up all hrs of the night. I never go anywhere because I cannot leave her alone at all . Just plain tired of what is ahead of me every day.
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Wow, I didn’t know that I haven’t posted here close to 46 hours..that’s like 2 days. I think caregiving meeting really exhausted me emotionally. I have not felt that deep sadness in soooo long. Do you know what is my last memory of having this deep sadness? I was in elementary age, hiding with my young siblings Under the Dining table (table cloth hid us). There was this music on the radio playing. I see us under the table hiding, and I had such DEEP SADNESS in me. Much worse than what I experienced on Saturday. I don’t remember the music, but whenever I hear it on the radio, the same deep sadness descends me and I Always Recall hiding under the table. Just recently, this year, I was with sis when the music played on the radio. Sis said that that music makes her feel so sad and that she remembers hiding under the table with such sadness. I didn’t say anything because I was shocked! She, too, has no memories of her childhood and has no desire to remember it.

I think that’s why I had decided NOT to go anymore to the caregiver monthly meeting. But Kimbee, Notlike, Sharyn, Austin and Ladee – you all persuaded me that THIS is good. I really do appreciate your words. I’ve transferred it to my EMPOWERMENT notes and highlighted it in Yellow for Quick Find. Thanks!! ;)
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Burned~I hope we have not added to you being overwhelmed but you asked for this and we are giving it to you because we care about you and your children♥! I am from a dysfunctional family and I am DYSFUNCTIONAL. It is not a bad thing unless you do don't educate yourself on the steps to overcome it. You are intelligent enough to do that. Take some time to re-read our responses, let it sink in for a few days then develop a plan of action and DO IT!!
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Burned: I don't want to dump on you, but here's some of my thoughts. I think that you are struggling with a lot of major issues. With the exception of your Grandmother, I don't think you have received much love in your life. It's always been chaos and competition amongst family members who are dysfunctional. On some level you know that.

Here's the thing, you are dysfunctional too. If people are calling CPS on you and the school thinks that you are doing things that hurt your children and the community feels you don't want your kids, well there's a reason for this. It may be that you make mistakes in the way you do things.

I don't think you have ever had a good role model. You do what you know and maybe that is fine for you, but you have children who are learning from you. They are leaning their values and their worth by how you respond to them. They see themselves in your words and actions.

For a long time, I have felt that you don't really love your husband anymore, but you stay in the marriage because it provides some security for you. Not much, but maybe more than you have had in the past. Plus, you don't want to admit that you are in the wrong situation because you feel you will be judged by the family; both yours and his, and that will only reinforce your feelings of judgement.

Burned: You could take a different look at this. You could learn more about yourself and not be so defensive about what you have or have not done correctly. You have the opportunity to find your way, but you can't do that if you are not honest with yourself and with others that want to be supportive of you.

I agree with Ladee, that you should get your children in counseling and make it the goal to form a more loving family. This isn't your fault. You never had a mom who treated you like the precious child that you were. You were an innocent that came into a family that did not know how to cherish you.

As a result you have grown up fighting your way through life. You children need to learn a better way and so do you. You are a young woman and you can do this. If you don't, you will live like this for the rest of your life. I'd be very sad to see that happen to you.

Your husband would probably feel safer being in the care of his family. It does not matter if they do the job the same way you do. You hubby is not happy in your care and you are not happy taking care of him. I think you do all of this for the crumbs of security that come to you as a result.

What would happen if you just let it go and made a decision to get some help and focus on your children. You will be amazed how fast the next 10 years will go by and the 10 after that will go even faster. Where do you want to be 10, 15, 20 years from now? Where do you want your kids to be?

I want to tell you that I have seen women in communities who have pulled themselves out of worse situations than you are in. They cut their losses, lived off the system while they needed to, got their educations and raised their kids. They taught their kids by the example, doing the hard work. And they became leaders and role models for other woman who were struggling.

You have talent and you have a good mind. You don't have to fight the world to be part of it. You just need some help to find your footing and soften your edges and learn how to forgive yourself. That's a big one.

If it means anything, Burned, I forgive you and I want you to overcome what you struggle with.

Look, kiddo, I'm 63 years old. You are just a baby. You have so many years ahead of you. What you chose to do now makes all the difference in where you will be when you are my age. And you will get there faster than you think, so make the days, the months and the years count.

Sending you love and white light. Cattails.
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Burned~ I am going to ask you a few questions and I know you have a lot on your plate which can cause you to forget the questions we ask you at times. Please come back and answer them. This is not a criticism toward you...but why did you move to a small rural community with the health issues your husband has? Wouldn't moving closer to Phoenix be better because of more services being available in a bigger city? Sweetie, I know things are hard for you and my heart goes out to you with all you are juggling, but have you consider counseling for your son? With your husband's illness, kids are very sensitive to these things and it is probably a big change for him and he could have anger that he is acting out. I wouldn't use a school counselor for this as they are there for psychotherapy. I know it is one more thing to tend to but you have said you are in therapy so maybe you could set up an appt. for him when you go that way it is all done in one trip. Do your friends contribute to your household financial situation? Maybe all of you can pool your money together so you can move closer to a bigger city with more services available to you including public transportation. That would be a big plus for your situation. I don't see you as standoffish, but I do see you as very defensive because you have been hurt over the years. Because of the defensiveness, I think you fight things...maybe too much... instead of just accepting some things for what they are. You may want to discuss that with your therapist, it would be a good thing to work through in therapy. I see what you say as having a backbone and using it is possibly fighting some situations that you shouldn't be fighting. That's my 2 cents worth. ((((HUGS)))) to you!!!
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Burned, I rarely reply to you because when you first started posting, some of us that were around then, TRIED to help you.... guess we didn't give you the answers you wanted or needed... so for as long as you've been here, I have heard the same thing over and over.... well,nothing changes if nothing changes....
The things I am about to say are not intended to hurt your feelings, they are intented for you to THINK about what is being said.......
This is what I see and feel from your posts... you are overwhelmed, you are a young woman with young children trying to raise them by yourself.... you have few friends, you are isolated, you live in a very small town with few resources.... am I right so far???
But this is also what I hear, half truths, minimizing your inability to leave that husband that apperently is abusive.... not getting your kids some counseling, we don't know how much you are drinking, and how that may play a part in this... and this is from YOUR own words....
You are so burdened you can't see how to get out of this mess, sorry, I'd take my next caregiver check, pack up my kids and take the first bus out of town... you could go to a town with more resources for you and the kids, get an education to have a good job, and I already know what you are going to say about that.... so, if you can get clear about what you need from us, we'll try to help.... my first suggestion is for you to stop feeling sorry for yourself, and use that backbone you talk about all the time.... get involved with our lives , we have problems too, we have financial issues, sick people who do not cooperate, children with issues, you are not unique, and possibly if you started trying to not always see yourself as the victim, you would see we have problems ourself....
If I've made you angry or hurt your feelings, well, you can either think about what has been said here to you tonight, or you can add it to your list of people who are being mean to you... 'shooting you down' to use your words.....
And what is par for the course, you did not even acknowledge what all Beck said to you.... so if it's sympathy you are looking for, well, I'm sure some here have that to give you, just ask... if not, then the rest of us are trying to be 'problem solvers'.... so let us know how we can help... none of us even know what to say to you anymore.... so prayers sent for you and your family...
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I have taken all ur advice in consideration and I do use the advice with my husband and with his doctors...they are the ones I am hitting a brick with is the medical community and my husband is the other brick wall...I have to deal with everyday...I have friends who do help me out and the second job cannot happen this yr because my husband refuses to do things wisely so you can imagine I am fighting his insurance company, bills and everything else...I am mentally exhausted and Judy...I do not have a way to get where u are at in Arizona ...I live in a lil rural town called ajo not more than so many odd miles from mexico itself...if i had the money and the means would love to meet you. but such as I try to look for the positive ...I am just done pleasing my husband to make him happy when he forgets how much I strive to do for all of us...I have a good heart and its being abused by so called ppl in this town saying I do not want my kids and that I am trying to get rid of them which is completely false and on top of that someone called the cops on us got my husband in trouble and he has never done anything wrong in his life ...yet no outcome from that yet...I am about ready to sue the school for character defamation and slander because I have a son who loves to tell stories that aren't true yet get believed then I have to deal with cps again...I am struggling and juggling n all i get is I am not doing enough and I need to do more when I can't put forth the energy anymore to JUSt DO IT like the Nike logo...hell would love to meet the rest of you lovely ladies out there but unfortunately i cannot do fiancial means and having someone step in to look after hubby since he is a high fall risk and likes to be stubborn bout things..So i am not offended but I do apologize for being distant and standoffish...my social life has been limited only to the internet ....having a conversation outside of the house is a new thing but not steady...mostly i feel like i am flapping my jaw just to have someone to talk to me...i have no real friends in this town except for the ones living with me ...so yes I am standoffish and very blunt n persnickety ...prolly few other choice words come to mind but I do my best to consider and approach but I get shot down before I even finish so what is a girl to do...I do have a backbone and I do use it ....just wore out...
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Cat.....come on, now....that was 20 yrs ago......give Moses a 2nd chance......Our Lord would!!!......LOL.....LOL......LOL!...I'll get the staff blessed, if it makes u feel any better.....n we'll all say a "tubing" prayer, before departing. Hell...by the time we push off, our tubes wont even be touching the water!!!
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Burned - open up! We all care. Sometimes you're like talking to a wall though. I'm a few hours away from you. If you're ever up this way for an appointment, I'd love to meet you. Don't throw you're hands up in the air and give up on us.

Sitting under the stars, camping, sounds like fun, but can you picture the lot of us in tents? With all of the aches and pains and complaints about fat asses, we'd be one giant land of air mattresses and Bengay, and we'd need to help each other up off the ground. But, it'd be worth it.

Seeme - when you went down the Salt did they have the buses and tube rental set up? The first time I went, years ago, we had to park one car at the top where we started and another car by the bridge where we crawled out. Did you see the wild horses when you tubed? There are so many now, and when they come to drink, its like a religious experience for anyone on the river - even all of the yahoo's get quiet - so beautiful. And, Apache helicopters flew over a few times that day. They make my heart skip a beat too.

Dealt with Mom today. My patience is wearing thin. Feel like a bad daughter. I was so angry with her today, just the little nit picky things she says that annoy the crap out of me, piled up, and by the time I was driving home, I felt like crying. And, I'm not ordinarily a crier.

Okay, I've got a question and I don't know if anyone can really help, but I'm getting a little desperate. My brother doesn't have a van anymore. He relies on VA transport for his appointments, and he doesn't ever get out any further than a store close to his house, but even that hurts now. His bones are so fragile that even transferring him from his bed to his chair can break them, so bumps in the road are just killer. He said that the creases in the sidewalk made his shoulders ache for 3 days from his last venture out. He's only been able to get out like that twice in the past year - his world is very small now. We've been talking about renting a van and hitting the road for a trip, but we can't find any rental vans that'll work for him. Mini vans are too short. He sits up very high in an electric wheelchair, and reclining to fit in them is very uncomfortable for him. Got any ideas? He's got a bucket list too, and I'd love to be able to help him, but some of it is just too hard and he knows he won't be able to do them. He's never seen the Gulf of Mexico and he'd love to. I wish I was rich and could rent a plane for him. I'm rambling. I could talk about him all night. Such a sweetheart. So...van ideas? Anyone know of an organization that rents vans that would accommodate a quadriplegic comfortably?
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Burned... ditto what Beck said... nothing to add...
A quick note and then off to read for awhile... or not..... Marie has rebounded, getting around on her own, eating more, but has a new PAIN today.... I must have been tired today, as I was having a hard time connecting to anything going on around me.... so just sort of went thru the motions..... hate when that happens....

So,no hospice at this time.... don't even know what to think about this roller coaster she is on... and she complains about pain so much, we just arent' sure what to do most of the time.... and I know it's just me today, in a "mood".... guess all that talk about a fun weekend has put me in a tiny 'downer'.... just a tiny one... I don't stay down long... too much going on in my world to feel sorry for myself for long... hell, I might miss something...

love ya'll, sending hugs, angels and chocolate....
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