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Book~When I was going for therapy back in my thirties once a week, I would come home and sleep for 2-3 hours because I was so exhausted from the session. I went for 4 years. My therapist was great and very interactive with the therapy. She didn't just ask probing questions, we would roll play where she would be one of my parents and have to tell her (as my parent) how they hurt me, how it made me feel as a child and how it affected my over all life, then she would hold me as I sobbed uncontrollably. She was a great therapist!! I was so exhausted afterwards. The only thing I did not get from therapy was how to cope with daily stresses in life but I did not know to ask that question then. Keep going to the meetings and over time as you heal, it will become less painful for you. I am so proud you have made this decision...call the woman who reached out to you. I know it can be hard to do that, but it sounds like she needs someone too.
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OMG...Beck you make me laugh so hard!!! I am thinking your floating boob could be a flotation devise and no need for a tube!! We can all float down the river on a gel boob...my imagination is twisted I know, Lol!!! Thank you for the good laugh I needed that!!!
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Ok....Ok....U guys flushed me out of my pity party!!! Im grateful...cuz, i was boring myself....

well...all this talk about tubing, cellulite....boobies....brings back a memory that i must share...Before i begin, let me say i'm IN for a girls weekend of tubing..even if my boobs sink to the bottom on the way!!!

Ok...remember wen Victoria Secret came out with those gel boobies that u could stick in ur bra to help "ENHANCE", or in my case....lift up the boobs?? I decided to purchase these remarkable enhancers, n strut those along with the weave....i, did not, however, purchase them for Lily....but she managed to get a hold of them, anyway...

I was wearing them one day, n decided that i really needed to go pull some weeds out of my flower bed in the front yard....Yes....i looked HOT...LOL.... I was bent over, n in serious "weed pulling" mode...n my neighbor saw me working out there n decided to come chat while i worked...I was watering the flower bed to help make the weed pulling a lil easier...so i created a small mud puddle...Lily was laying on the grass, waiting for the next dragon fly to pass by..so she was in her own world....so i thought...As i was working my way thru the weeds, i was visiting with my neighbor....unaware of the fact that my brand new gel boob had fallen out of my bra n landed in the mud....I kept pulling the weeds n chatting away, n i dont believe my neighbor noticed the run away boob....until....Lily found it....n interrupted our conversation by bringing the muddy boob over to me n dropping it at my feet....OMG....the look on neighbors face was....lets see.....how would i describe it.....PAINFUL!!!!! There was only one way to react, n that was uncontrollable laughter.....so....without missing a beat....i rinsed off my muddy boob, asked the neighbor to turn his head, n stuffed that f***** right back where it belonged....!!
I thanked Lily for finding it...gave her a treat...n went back to the job at hand....Havent seen the neighbor, since....lol....So....if we go tubing, n one of u ladies sees my boob floating near ur tube....grab it.......i'll give u a treat wen we get to dry land.........LOL
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Love ya Notlike... you know you are invited to the 'tubing vacation' .... wouldn't that be just too much fun... and ya, we'd all be looking like you Kim, tired but determined... we SAY we'd go tubing... but hell, after we got settled, we'd all take a nap..... except our turtle friend Judy... she'd be the one splashing and cussing trying to get out of the tube... oh lord, my brain is so full of what we COULD be doing.... something for us to think about tho... but keep in mind, with my leg, I'd be whining after awhile if we had to walk far, and besides, think of the rocks that are there....

Let's see Kim, when is not killer hot here in Texas,,, uh.... December...??? Ya'll certainly don't want to be here in Aug.... that's the month that makes you a true Texan... if you hang for that one.... you are a real Texan....

And where is Beck by the way....

more later, love ya'll
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Jam-Glad you had a good trip. Would love to see the Col in that shirt!
Book-So proud of you for going to those meeting, and for telling your story. Like Ladee said, the way you felt is another step on your journey. Please know you are loved and appreciated by us. And give that lady a call...fourtune favors the bold! Hugs.
Judy-What has life gotten to if we feel guilty for having fun?!? Hell, I've had some awesome mental vacations and fun days just reading posts here, which is cheaper, easier, and less time consuming than me trying to do it myself! :) I never feel jelous when someone posts about fun - I'm just glad one of us got a break and was willing to share it with the rest of us. Hugs.
Ladee-bless you for being with S and M now. And thank heavens you made some peace with M - she may need your kindness and understanding in the time to come. My heart is heavy knowing that you are hurting, too. Love ya. And the job for you? Dog Walker! You can help us keep our pets in shape and pick up rocks as you go along. Besides, I'd give anything to see YOU in Lilly's weave!
I've begun the slow, painfull process of trying to convince Dad that his body is worn out from all his stress. I'm skirting the mental issues, because he won't admit to it. But we are running out of options to make him better, and watching him fade is killing me. There are strong drugs they could try to control his bowels, but they have serious side effects. We've tried all the normal drugs already. So maybe an antidepressent will do the trick. If I can get him to agree to take one.
I made it to the gym twice this week! Yeah for me! I also ate a bazillon cookies, some cake, and donut holes. Oh well :)
Goodnight, and better tomorrows.
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Oh Cat, ur so good, seeing Ladee in the commune setting. I can totally see you Ladee at an artist colony type of setting, but of course not a snooty one! Gotta be real! Seeme n I will be sad... SeeeeeMeeeee...Beeeeccckkkk - where are you??!
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I am missing u all too! So busy n soo tired, last week was too busy for us. We had 7 appts, + ER visit. So thank u Cara, Ladee, Judy n Lisa for the great laughs and visuals! Judy, no guilt trips over fun trips-I was livin' vicariously thru u Judy-having all that fun that I'M too tired to have. No drinking here either Ladee, but I have to b "punch-drunk tired" to get silly. If I could get to TX for a trip, no doubt I'd arrive caregiver dead tired! You'll know it's me, the NOT tan one, flopped down with the distinctive "beached whale" look. So, thinking bout TX tubing-Ladee, when's the weather just right there for tubing-hot but not sickeningly so? And bookworm our friend, I'm proud of u too. Starting in a support group IS hard. As Ladee said, you r grieving. You took a step to begin facing ur feelings. If you need to go slow, thats ok. You shared enough that the others know u've got a lot on your shoulders. I suspect they will accept your pace, n love n support u until u feel stronger n able to share more. We all love u - they will too. Please just KEEP GOING? Austin gave u good advice about the lady who shared her number. Could u just call her n thank her for reaching out to you? Really, that's all u would HAVE to talk about for now. If u r uncomfortable, u have ready excuse to get off the phone- mom, work, dinner...
Ladee, I'd love to see your art-do u have an electronic portfolio? I'm glad u will be staying on with M, n I hope S too. Thank u all for keeping us laughing, kimbee
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Book you and the lady from the support group will do fine talking to each other-the lady I met was also a nurse and our husbands were much like each other and we generally called each other once a week in between the meetings then her husband died and she sold the house when the market was good -sold it the first week it was on the market and moved into senior housing and met a nice man soon after moving in and volunteers at a nursing home nearby-we still email occasionally-it was nice to talk to another caregiver who understood what I was going through-it helped us both greatly.
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Damn Judy, the visuals you supply us with... had to compose myself before I could post,, my cat was looking at me like I had lost my mind... she's looked at me like that on many occasions by the way.... OMG I am still laughing.... And Lisa, Doug needs to be more than the cabana boy, he needs to know how to use a hoist and chain.... OMG... I just can see all that cellulite in one place... we sure as hell won't have to worry about anyone bothering us, they'll think they are having a bad acid trip and are in a cheese factory...And we'll have our own version of On Golden Pond, just that we will be the loons making all the noise....I don't drink, so please please ya'll don't make me the designated tuber..... remember,,, I said I am sick of being RESPONSIBLE....
But I promise to be the cigerrete keeper... remember I made it thru Hurricane Rita stuck in the woods with the Manson family.... so I know how to keep the smokes dry.... the rest of it , well, it makes my mind spin to think of all us out there... those that need to have a lenghty discussion about who's in charge. well, ya'll we be left behind.... some of us do NOT follow directions very well.... I would just be looking at Judy and saying. "hell, i know they aren't talking to us.... let's boogie....."... and off we'd go....

And there is awesome food in Texas... just one look at my fat ass is a testament to that....

I just know tho, that i would have so much fun I wouldn't want to go home.... but let's do it ladies.... nothing stopping us but us....

And yes Judy, I am an artist, mixed media, art dolls, not like baby dolls ya'll, these ladies " speak' to you .... all sorts of needlework.. but would love to move there and just do my creative self into a coma..... would be so nice to be tired from doing something I love....
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Haha! Lisa! my boobs didn't fall out of the fat lady suit. I did alright there. You're so mental - Doug as cabana boy! He'll need to wear a speedo with KAW on his ass.
Austin - not the Hudson, it was the Salt River, but I think Ladee says we need to float down the Commel next year. I'm game. I'll be tied to Cattails who has promised to keep my smokes dry.
Book - that woman's eyes sound amazing. I hope you call her.
Burned, Funnier, Cara - you all need a good float, I think. Where's Beck and Kimbee? And who else did I miss? I'm missing people.
Gotta feed my brat so I can head out to bro's. I've got a 2 hr wiindow to visit before he goes to bed. I'll be home early with my ice pack. Wild Saturday night for sure!
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Marfa? Are you an artist? Looks like that place would be right up my alley. Love that its small and filled with creative people, some living on the edge.
Texas Tubing. Sign me up. Seriously. What a blast. We should really do this and not just talk about it. Sounds cheap enough too, aside from the plane fare. Tubing is cheap.
I'm sitting here icing my thigh again. Holy crap. A little too much of the goodness yesterday. And, Cat, I had my smokes in a baggie, its just that when we kept falling in the stinky water, the cooler dumped out a few times and everything just got soaked. I'm still pissed about my shoes getting pulled off.
The last time I went tubing, a few years ago, I got to shore with no drama, but when I went to stand up, the tube was stuck on my ass, so I lost my balance and fell forward on my hands and knees. My kids were howling and told me that I looked like a turtle. At least I didn't do THAT this time.
Going to my bro's for a few hours tonight. Looking forward to it. Hope everyone has a decent night. Love you guys.
Strawberry cheesecake sounds delicious.
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Judy, I LOVE TUBING!!!! not once have I been on the river without having my pleasingly plump ass (dougs kind description) on the tube. These days gotta have everything covered and tucked in very carefully. Last year I was so proud of my self pulling myself up on my knees, I didn't realize my boobs were flapping in the wind. Doug took a picture and threatened to have it printed on our Xmas cards. I thought I would die!!! I'm always tanned, so my fil said he dam near went blind. Hell, I'll bring Doug to act as cabana boy. Keep our glasses full and dump us in our beds when we can't find them.
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Funnier - never ever heard of bladder spasm. I've heard of muscle spasm. Ew!! Well, learn something new all the time here on AC....

Judy, all I can say is... you're crazy! (Good kind of crazy... not the dementia crazy.) Glad you enjoyed yourself. Forget the guilty conscience. View it as a reward for being a hardworking caregiver. Just as a regular 9-5 job has vacations, you also have one. And you just took your vacation on that day. And it's not as if you left them alone..... So, when is your next mini vacation?
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Cara - it's sad isn't it when someone you loved has hurt you so badly for years that it damages your relationship... I'm just glad that you finally found a place of peace that you just love. Thanks....

Austin, when the lady gave me her number, I actually thought of you. I recalled you mentioning this and I wondered if this could also be a potential. I find her eyes so fascinating. She's caucasian (white) and her eyes are not gray, green, blue, etc...It's like it's silver, or very very light gray eyes. I've never seen that color before. I also gave her my cell phone number. Don't know if I will call her... I wouldn't know what to say to her!

Ladee, I'm glad you commented on the sadness I felt. I was confuse because the first 2 meetings, I was fine. But this 3rd one, I felt such lingering sadness. I was beginning to think that if I always come away with sadness, then I won't go anymore. I didn't think of it as what you said, that I'm Grieving. It makes sense. So, I've decided that I will continue to go to these monthly meetings because obviously to you (an outsider) this is good, a progress. But in my point of view, I saw it as something negative. Hope you don't mind that I comment on future meetings? Because I definitely am not viewing things in the POSITIVE Light but concentrating on a Negative view. Thanks!
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Well, Ya'll come on down or across or where ever you are.... that would be just too much fun.... we talk about stuff like this all the time and never do it... maybe this will be the year we make a commitment.... pass the word, the more the merrier.... I just hope none of us get hurt, there would be a storm of caregivers on us like vultures trying to put a damned band aide on us...... but damn we would have some fun... fun is missing in my life for sure... This would be awesome if it really came to pass.... ya'll seriously think about it....
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Judy: You crazy sista. You make me LMAO. I'll travel to Texas to go tubing with you all. It would be well worth the trip. Judy, I'm tying your tube to mine. I'll fix you up with a baggie to keep your cigs dry and we can tie on a 3rd tube for refreshments. Beck, are you listening. Ladee, brace your self for company.
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Judy, what a great time you had.... those are my kind of adventures sans the drinking, I can get stupid sober..... !!!
Maybe this next summer we all need to plan a weekend to New Braunfels... here in Texas... it's tubing paradise on the Commel..... no stinky water here.... and it's a blast... wouldn't that be a fun weekend.... something for us to think about, we'd have plenty of time to plan, save our pennies, get someone to cover for our elders, and just to hell with it for a few day.... of course a bunch of ladies laying on the shore asleep from exhaustion from laughing might be frowned upon, but they really wouldn't want to mess with that many tired caregivers all at one time....

And speaking of the commune, I have been looking into a similiar situation in Marfa, Tx... but not something I would have to be in charge of.... tired of RESPONSIBILITY.... But won't be going anywhere until M is no longer with us... no way would I leave now, and your right Judy, I care too much to quit.... not much of a quitter anyway...

So Judy, nothing to feel guilty about, we give huge shout outs to those that can get a way for a day of fun.... sorry you are sore today, but I know it was worth it.....

Need to go get something to eat... that strawberry cheesecake I had for dinner last night has not filled up my tummy..... later, love ya'll
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I am extremely tired and mentally exhausted besides being broke until payday wk from today when i turn in my time sheet again. I have my kids playing instead of being on the computer..my daughter has recieved mostly good grades so far before I have the parent teacher conference with both of her teachers since she is in a split class set up. My son is doing better or at least he isn't trying to play the blame game. My husband feels that I do not think he is right in the head...well I have to say I am because he goes back from 2 yrs and back barely remember what has happen in front of his face today. I got to finish welfare stuff and call his ride for his appt on the 20th...at least I will have someone to watch the kids while I listen to my husband bitch n moan all the way to the specialist. I am just drained and I do not know if I want to see my therapist ..may switch to psychiatrist instead because of my general anxiety disorder is getting worse...I need a good laugh and I need a good cry...I need to feel human not a zombie or else i would be really calling out for brains...if that was case then wth is wrong with this country,,,the world...I am ready for rebirth and more simple life than a complicated one and I am starving for a life outside of my house...I am also looking for a new place to rent or buy...any suggestions...oh do not mention coffee gives me bad heartburn which I had to increase my medication on that cuz the one pill wasn't enough.. Then I know i do not need a pain pill but I do and I know I need something to help me sleep or take a lvl down on my anxiety...shit i need to get my tires aired up and look like a fool still riding a bike with training wheels but wth do I care...I am just done...burned to the max ...I am just waiting for my job to tell me I can have a vacation ...and they send someone to work with hubby for a wk and I chill...small dreams are worth pennies but its the life after caregiving that is nearly worth its weight in gold...Lifting a glass to all of you beautiful ladies...keep me in ur thoughts...have a blessed wknd.
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Judy -you had TOO MUCH FUN-a real KAW in my book-good for you let me know when the next trip down the river is-not the Hudson River-probably.
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Ladee - the body still moving even after you've stopped. What a hoot. Flappy arms are bat wings. I've got them too and I hate it. If I could fly with them, well, that'd be alright. I'd be one mean bat though. I'd be biting people and dropping guano bombs.The Thang Thong is a great idea. It'd probably have to say "wide load" on it though so people know to give her a wide berth, like those trucks on the road that take a lane and a half. Washing instructions may have to read: burn. I still haven't come up with an alternate job for you. I think you're going to be tied up with S and M (no pun, but man, wouldn't that liven life up a bit?!) for a while. You care too much to up and quit. But, I like Cat's idea of a commune. Wouldn't that be fun? Not apartment living though. Everyone needs a a roid trailer so we have our own space, with a community center we could hang out in if we wanted to see people. And a fire ring to sit around. And gardens. And critters. And, at the rate I'm going, a big frikkin still.
I'm a hurting unit today. Mom wasn't happy with me yesterday because I told her I could drop her off for her perm but that I had to run to the school for my youngest, and that I'd be back to pick her up when she was done. Oh, she didn't like that. Asked me "why" I had to go to the school and said that she didn't go to our schools unless she really needed to when we were kids. Well, duh. I remember. Anyway, she had me reschedule her appointment for next week. So, you know what? I didn't go over her house at all yesterday. Said screw it. My nephew was there anyway. Got my kid taken care of, my friend packed a cooler with some margaritas in plastic bottles, put on my fat lady bathing suit and tubed down the river with my friend, got a bit loaded, lost my shoes when I got swept down the river a ways when I jumped out of my tube when I thought the current wasn't strong and we could make it to shore (dumb, dumb, dumb). Friend got swept downstream with the tubes and cooler, got stuck on a rock in some reeky, still water like rotten eggs, holding my tube with her feet until I could crawl and fall my way down to her, and we both fell down on the slippery rocks getting out of the river like idiots, laughing like lunatics. Good thing no one was around. Now, my shins are bruised up and down, my shoulders ache, I think I pulled a muscle in my thigh (I'm icing it now), and I'm a little queasy today, but IT WAS A BLAST! I feel guilty telling you all that I had a scream of a day yesterday. By the time my friend's husband picked us up, I had mascara running down my face like Alice Cooper, was sucking river water out of the filters of my cigarettes, spitting it out, and smoking the least soggy of the pack, I had garbage bags on my feet, and was wearing an old soaking wet dress over my bathing suit, we were both covered in what I'm hoping was moss and mud and not dung, but we were laughing so hard that it didn't matter. So, I'm bruised and limping but smiling. And, while you guys are dealing with poop, bladder spasms, rashes, abuse, not getting any sleep, worry about leukemia and parents dying and really serious issues with no rest or break... I'm writing about having some extreme juvenile fun and feeling some big time guilt, but you all are my buddies and I had to tell you. I wish we had been all together in a big KAW flotilla of tubes yesterday. Now, that would've been something. My mother just chapped my ass yesterday. Pissed me off. And, the old people didn't need me yesterday for anything big, so I was gone. What am I going to do when I can't leave them? I'll go crazy.
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Has anybody else experienced bladder spasms in their patients with urinary catheters? MIL has em'. Yep, she sure does. Lots of times. The nurse says it's because she won't drink enough and her bladder is just like any other muscle in your body. It is starving for fluids or it will spasm, and voila, you got a Charlie horse. If there was any urine in the bladder, it is forced out around the catheter instead of through it, like a firehose, and urine goes everywhere. What the pull-ups can't hold spills into the bed and her gown an blankets and there you go again, another big bath and clean-up.

Last night, though, not only did she have bladder spasms, her bowels did it to, twice, and she had explosions in unison. WOW! I don't know how anyone can have that much crap inside of them. I don't feed her that much. It must multiply while it's there.

I had a wash going at 1:30 AM and another at 6:00 AM. I looked at myself in the mirror and I wasn't sure that was me looking back at me. I'm really glad the new caregiver from the agency comes on Saturday, too, because I'm going to take a 2-hour nap today.

I hope everybody else gets a chance to take one, too.
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Cara, KAW stands for Kick Ass Women....
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Book, of course after sharing that you are sad... you are grieving... and that by itself is exhausting..... plus caring for your parents and a full time job.... there is nothing wrong with being sad....at least you are expressing it, and for you to speak in that meeting.... damn girl I am proud of you... no way would you have done that months ago.... I am sending you lots of cyber hugs... that way you know you are loved, supported and appreciated, without having to get in your personal space......
I know you have no idea how remarkable you are, because this is all you've ever done... that is your 'normal'.... so you don't see it as the heroic feat that we do... we are on the outside looking in, amazed, stunned at your ability to continue on, and we are also seeing a new person emerging.... one with a voice, with feelings that matter to us..... I'm not blowing smoke here lady, there are very few people in my life that I truly respect, but you are one of them.... don't take that on as another responsibilty either.... you are one of the most REAL women on this whole sight.... and I know many others feel the same as I do.... and am very proud of you for letting us love you until you can love yourself..... that takes courage.... no matter what or where or when, when I think of you during my own busy day, I smile.... you are very loved Book, and it's ok to be sad... we are all sad for one reason or another, so again, you are not alone.... sending you lots of love across the miles...
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Spoke to brother of next door this evening. He wants to go to HUD (Housing Urban Development) and see if my parents can get a loan (or Reverse Mortgage) to renovate the house. He wants to have a ramp to the porch, widen the door (so ambulance people don't struggle getting the gurney in/out of the house) and widen the bedrooms so that parents be in the bedroom and not in the livingroom. Makes me wonder why he wants parents in the bedroom? Who is going to remain for hours in the bedroom suctioning mom? Me? What's wrong with the livingroom? There's only 3 of us living here. We all sleep and eat in the livingroom. Hmm....What is brother up to now? I think after I'm done changing parent's pampers and cleaning trache, I will email siblings in the states of this new development of bro of next door. Not my problem really. If bro wants to take over the house now, he can move in and I can move out. So torn...tell siblings or not? No, I will tell them. Oh, BTW, he's going to sell the top half of his duplex and his house. So, is his 2 grown boys who are not working going to stay below the duplex and he/wife move in here? Cuz, why is parents going to be in the bedroom? Sigh... Brother is making his move.
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Book I am so glad you are going to the caregivers support group-it is hard to speak up to strangers-I think the lady who gave you her phone number might need someone herself to talk to as much as thinking you need someone-I became very good friends with a lady from one of my groups and remained friends even after both our husbands died and she moved a distance away-we both needed that friendship-if you can I think you should call even only to thank her for thinking of you-she may become a good friend and she may really need you in her life/
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I went to my 3rd caregiving support group today. It was sharing day. We had to share something of our life. You know the stories we read here in AC? It's also happening here on this little island. Siblings cheating parents, parents abusive to their caregiver child, etc...Everything they said, I was nodding. Heard it all here. Even one whose husband went to the hospital for surgery, came out with dementia. She was so confuse as to why this happened, at a loss.

Even when the 1st person was talking, my poor heart was beating like crazy. It was just awful. My turn came. I wanted to bring out the poopy stage and how I find it difficult to adjust to this. I ended up telling a short version of mom and then father stroke, etc...I ended mine by mentioning resisting therapist's words that my family did not care for me (loud gasps from the group). I told them that I figured he's an American from the mainland. He's not an islander and doesn't understand. I mention Googling for caregiving and finding this site (no names mentioned) and 2 days later, suicidal and how you all helped me. You all basically validated what the therapist told me. I mentioned that I decided to suicide on Friday because by then the boss would be back. I didn't want to die and no one be in the office to take care of the customers. (Heard someone comment: My God she even decided WHEN she will do it cuz she's concerned about the office!)

Needless to say, talking about it aloud has just made me feel sooo sad all day today. I can feel the sadness in me. I think talking about it just reinforced that my family don't care for me. I kept repeating that phrase. I think I made them all so sad. Before, all the previous speakers got laughter. Mine was just so quiet.

One woman whose first time is today, came to me while I was getting in the car. She wanted to give me her phone number and to call her anytime I needed to talk. I didn't think about it until just now. I did wonder why she wanted to give me her number. You see, when I was talking, I mentioned that I had no one to talk to. And the CG meeting was once a month. So I turned to online for help. I guess she wanted to give me her number so that if I ever feel suicidal or just want to talk, that I can call her. Me - a total stranger. She also strongly encouraged me to take yoga. That was how much 3rd CG ended.

A friend dropped by at 4pm for encouragement, but I was just so sad. I didn't really smile to her. I finally told her that she dropped by at the wrong time. Cuz every 3-4pm, my body wants to shut down, I'm so tired and drained. I told her that while she was talking, my brain, my brain...and she said, "is foggy." I nodded. I apologized to her. I think she wanted to hug me but the whole time she was there, I was hugging myself tightly and leaning against the wall, rocking. As usual, she came to invite me to our religious meeting tomorrow morning. I just gave her a crooked smile (one side moved up but the other side did not.) I have so much in my plate, I have no room for religious obligations on top of it. This was a decision I made 20 years ago. I have not changed. If God finds me lacking all these years of not worshipping him in his house of worship, then so be it. But, I don't think so. He sees what's in our hearts and mind.
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Cara: The sisterhood of the KAW came about with Lisa's thread and her initial post "Two Years This July, my mother has been living with me. She is a mean and hateful woman and I just cant do it anymore,." That thread is now over 1000 posts and Lisa has taken steps to get her mom out of her home. We, the KAW were her supporters and Lisa is obviously a big member. Many changes have taken place on that thread. It is one of the best threads on AC and I am very proud to have played a small role in it.

Best wishes, Cattails.
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Cara: Just my thoughts, but you don't need to think about how to respond to your husbands comments about your therapist. Bottom line is, you don't want to live with him and G-Pa. That's the truth and that's all you owe anyone. No further explanation needed.

About weight: I watched a video today that talked about how our bodies hold on to weight. It's often due to stress and the chemistry is produces in our bodies. Our bodies view the stress the same way it views potential famine and holds onto fat and body mass to protect us. Eating more wholesome foods, reducing stress and simple exercise can make a big difference. Not easy to reduce stress, but I think you have taken a giant step. Take your time and don't go back.

Ladee: Hummmmm: I am going to have some fun thinking of a new line of work for you. First thing that comes to mind in Prophet. Yep, I can see you organizing a group of folks who just want to live collectively and reduce their stress. A homestead of living arrangements, all independent, but not high brow. Some community vegetable gardens. Populated by people of various trades, and helping each other out as their talents allow. This group would respect the privacy and individuality of neighbors, but still be a community. I could see you in this kind of setting.

Maybe this sounds silly to you, but I think you are a leader and could make your own community if you felt the need or desire. Nice to have a family, so to speak, of like minds, even if it's just the space to be individuals.

Don't have any jokes right now. Just thinking of you and all the love and straight sense you live by and offer.

Hus, Cat
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ladee;
I know what you mean about the flapping arms. Some people call that grandmother arms. And, the more I lose, I'm sure the more the will jiggle (gross)
I also have a lot of belly fat and sometimes when I get up I feel it flop down that's a weird feeling. So far I lost some weight around my ribcage, like anyone would notice that. My double chin isn't as obvious now and my butt is smaller from the side view. But I'll probably always have a wide butt. A little at a time I guess is better than a drastic weight loss that may not last.
I am definitely enjoying my freedom, I just love it here. I can hear different bird calls, and for 3 nights in a row there was an owl very close by, I love to hear them. Thanks for making me giggle once again with your critique of your body. LOL that was awesome.

195Austin;
Yes my husband will be living with the step-father. (his not mine he's not even any relation to me at all)
He will be coming down to our house on week-ends as I think he is trying to make amends for his behavior and lack of attention to me for many years. The trouble is I love him but I'm no longer in love with him. He seems more like a long term room mate. I have no idea how I will tell him that, but I have to be honest about it I guess. He has ignored me and emotionally abused me for so long that I feel no affection for him at all. I feel sorry for him because he is so messed up, and after drinking for many years his thinking is skewed. He seems to have little if any emotion and I hate that.
I'm very affectionate and emotional normally, but his attitude has pretty much killed that part of my personality. When he hugs me, it's like hugging a rag doll, it feels so strange. I have no desire to kiss him anymore. Sex, well it's the same old thing he never changes anything. There's no "I love you" or cuddling. Just the mechanics nothing more for me, boring!!
I'm sure you didn't expect that conversation huh?
By the way what is "sisterhood of KAW" please explain. I'm missing something obviously. LOL
Thanks for checking in with me. You ladies are great!!
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Now for the serious stuff.... M has been in decline for the past two weeks... not eating, running a low grade fever, very weak.... she is hanging on for S.... the daughter called tonight and said her dr. is suggesting Hospice..... the son is going to talk to her about it this weekend....
A few months ago, she and I had a conversation about why she is hanging on... why she chooses to put herself thru the blood transfusions, ect... she very simply said, "S"..... so her kids are going to tell her that S will be taken care of....
M has pre lukemia, Kim will know the name of it, and Vickie Vic's dad has the same thing....so, it continues to do it damage to her body... she is exhausted, weak, and hanging on... will let ya'll know more as we go thru this final stage with M.....
Going to go now, process my feelings, and I know I will be there until the end.... this is more than a job to me.... love and hugs....
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