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Notlike: So sorry about your dad. I'm wishing the best for him and your family.

Placing my dad tomorrow morning. I am so exhausted. Going to bed early tonight.

Hugs and Prayers to all.

Cattails
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Go ahead and cry Notlike, those tears cleanse our stress a little, water our soul, get us prepared for the next thing... I know you are overwhelmed with it all, and working too.... don't forget about you..... It amazes me the load you and Vic are carrying, Bookworm too and all the others taking care of two..... Just know we are here for you, tears and all... not in our makeup to never get a break... so take a few minutes for you.... love, hugs, prayers and angels....
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Ladee-I didn't read the other thread, but I love you always anyway! You being you makes my day. You are the kind of companion I need.
Vic-Thanks, hon. I am sort of worried about how I will handle the both of them at once. What you do every day is amazing. Hugs.
Jam - words of wisdom, even without a real shower :)
Everyone else - not forgetting you, just very tired. I know we all have things we're facing. My heart goes out to each and every one of you.
Life as I knew it is over for now. No more Dad to drive them to appointments and shopping. I can't let him - he's too sick and weak. Wondering if/when I will have to have him admitted, but holding his own for now. Doc is doing a 24 stool test to see how much he really is absorbing from what he eats. Such fun to collect.
After some pushing, I got his colonoscopy scheduled for next Monday. They first said they were full until the 27th, but I told him he'll be an inpatient by then if they don't figure this out. Pills still aren't helping. I hate to see him like this. That's the worst part.
I'm getting a taste of not having a minute to myself. Pick up lab stuff on the way home, start dinner for all, water their garden, finish dinner, show them neice's email pix, ect, ect. And try to soothe his fears. And that was the first 2 hours after I got home! Really not complaining, just making the time adjustment. Mom has 2 routine appointments I would have skipped comign up, which I will have to take her to now. Plus Dad's colonoscopy. I hope we get some answers and they can make him feel better.
Sorry for the jumbled post. Everything feels all mushed together and crazy right now. No wonder I feel like crying all day long.
Goodnight, and better tomorrows.
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I just want to say THANK YOU for all of you who came to my rescue and my defense in my blunder on the "emotional abuse' thread.... Honestly I am overwhelmed to see how some of you feel about me... see, I just go thru life being me, I don't like to hurt people, and I am happy that that comes thru to ya'll... Ya'll just don't know how ya'll words have affected me... for all the gazillion times I have wondered about my self worth when I was younger, I am so grateful I gave myself permission to just be ME, and apparently, it IS good enough..... thank you all so much, this has been very humbling for me..... love you all bigger than the sky....
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You forgot me...... boo hoo...
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Vic......I apologize for not mentioning you above, I seem to have this large picture of a workable shower in my brain that takes precedence over everything else.....is Dad having a "tic attack"? Is he on medication for it? The Flagyl is the worst part of the treatment I think. How about using probiotics? Sometimes just putting the good bacteria back in will help. How are you doing? Thinking about you!
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Morning......would y'all send some of that rain to me....please??? It has cooled down here a lot, but haven't had the rain, cloudy for most of yesterday, but is still bone dry out there. I let the dogs out last evening and running across the lower yard are 3 little raccoons racing for the pond to get a drink......have lived here 9 yrs and that's the first time I've ever seen that. I imagine the creek that borders our property has dried up. ladee is correct......my brain has been on getting a shower without leaks......keeping my fingers crossed that what he did yesterday worked and everything is sealed today.

Such pain and turmoil going on this morning and my heart is with each of you. I gave up my active care giving last Oct when hubby says "we can't do this anymore because Mom is going to really hurt herself"....and he knew I wasn't able to pick her up and do all the physical things that needed done. It all happened so fast that I really didn't have time to think about it beforehand. One think to keep in mind is that by the time this happens, our loved one's mind is in such a place that they aren't aware of what is going on. Prior to placement the col would tell us "don't ever put me in a home, I'll just die"....well it's been 9 mo and she's still kicking! Sure, she tells me every time I talk to her ON THE PHONE that "I'm incarcerated here"....never in person, she always has a smile on her face. The only guilt I felt was when she got pneumonia about a month after placement...but I got over that fast. Wasn't my fault and she might have gotten it being at home. And the other feeling that went through me, and one that a lot of people would never admit to for someone else shaming them, is relief. Yes, knowing I didn't have to start the bedtime routine at 10pm.....and not get to bed myself until after midnight. I didn't have to look forward to wiping the poop from every orifice, I could fix what I wanted to eat, I didn't have to make arrangements for her when I needed to run errands, I could walk outside and know I wouldn't find her lying in the grass or over the edge of the pond or smeared across the highway. And visiting with her became a joy immediately......the stress of the care giving was gone and I could enjoy her company again. So it doesn't have to be a stress-filled situation if you don't allow it. Go into it with a positive attitude and it works!

stormy........I may be overstepping things here but from what I am reading no matter what happens, sis is going to do things the way she wants them, even putting her own health at risk, so maybe you should stop worrying and trying to come up with solutions.....isn't going to matter in the end. Until sis understands that she can't take care of everyone, she is going to try, just love her and be there for her because she will get too tired one of these days and will need you to lean on, finally. I care about you.....or I wouldn't fuss at you!
lady........good luck with the VA and let us know how things come out......just in case we need to bring you a cake in seeme's spa....:)
notlike.....sending prayers that Dad starts to feel better soon and hoping there is a simple reason for his illness.
beck.....how is your hand? Maybe if I have no shower leaks today my brain will start to work on making fun of you...:) I sympathize with you though....I've had surgery twice on my left thumb and the pain afterwards drove me straight up a wall!
ladee......send some of that rain this way please!!!! Glad to hear the other person is working out....and good thing son finally got started on PT.
cmag...........cow pattie......yippee!
Did I leave anyone out.....it's not intentional.....thinking of you all!
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Notlike..here for you! Know the worry and fear..dad is up and down with the stomach problems.. Last night he had another bad bowel and threw up. The meds to stop him up didn't work either. I don't know if the diverticulitis is just keeping his colon inflamed or if there is something else going on. Take it one day at a time dear one.
Ladee so glad to hear lady will work out. That will give you much needed rest physically and emotionally.
Stormy..you guys are in prayers. You are a special one.
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Notlike, and you have us as companions also, and we can help you carry that load... I am so sorry to hear this bad news about Dad..... and I know how much you love your dad, so hopefully Mom won't push too hard and have to find out how hard you can push back if you need to..... I understand that you need to keep a balance here, but at the same time, there is only one of you... pick your battles, and know we are standing behind you.... Prayers for your dad. Let us know something. You are loved Notlike, and my heart hurts for you today.... lots of love and hugs..... LOTS....
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Hello to all my cyber-friends. I haven't caught up on posts, but will soon. Please know I am thinking of you all and sending hugs.
Yesterday was a bad day. Too many questions and not enough answers. Dad does not have a bowel infection. That's good, but also bad, because that would be simple enough to treat. So they still don't know what is wrong with him. Now they want to do a colonoscopy, which he can't have for at least a week, because he has to stop taking Plavix first. And the doc wants serious sedation during the procedure, so he has to be cleared first, and there are risks. So more waiting, and at this point, I don't think whatever answers we get will be good. It's not normal to have the diarrhea for weeks (this is week #4). The choices of what could be causing this are getting slimmer, and more serious. He got a new med yesterday to help stop him up, but that doesn't seem to be working, either.
Mom is scared. She does not like depending on me, but Dad is too sick to do much for her. So there's lots going on, with trying to ease her into this. She keeps pushing him to do stuff, and I have to keep gently pushing back.
Worry, stress, fear...my companions right now.
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Cat, see, it's ok to not be super human... every single one of us knows what you are feeling...
When my lady Ruth died, I could not have put one foot in front of the other without the love and support on this sight, I didn't have time to grieve as I had to get another job, and the following year was unbelievably hard.... and I'm just a paid cariegiver... but love is love... doesn't matter who the sender or reciever is.... I had guilt that I didn't push harder for the family to understand what could have been prevented... but with all that being said... things work out just as they are supposed to.... we each have our own lessons to learn with each situation we find ourself in.....we are only alone on this journey if we choose to be... too many folks on here with tons of love and support, regardless of how tired, worn out, sick of poop, and hearing the same question asked a million times... we are here for each other.... always.... so I appreciate that you took the risk to get vulnerable and share what is going on.... it won't be easy, but it is do-able... easy is not a word caregivers know or use.... so keep coming back, and as Jam says, we'll leave the light on for ya.... hugs

Lady, the island is still there... and give the VA hell, you know how it works, and let us know what happens.... and no we don't have a bail fund, but we do have one unbelievable prayer chain.....and I know you wouldn't give them the satisfaction of letting them put you in jail.... You'll be able to make more noise on the outside... so let us know how it went.... hugs to you this morning....

The new lady is going to work out perfect... she brings a very positive energy to the situation, and I need that also.... so now I won't worry about S and M and also won't feel so stretched between my son and them everyday... Son started serious PT yesterday... three months after the wreck... he seemed in really good spirits yesterday... so prayers for my bag of broken bones son..... these past few months have been so hard, couldn't have done without ya'll.... love and deep appreciation for all of you....
And a special shout out to Beck for defending me on another thread, I made a typo and got 'slapped', but I apologized, that 's all I can do, it was a human mistake.... I accept my humaness, don't think the lady that 'slapped' me does, but that's ok too... it's just called LIFE.....
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Well, it's 450 am. cn't sleep cuz my brain is too busy. aug 18 will b one year since a dr from the va told me and my sis to take mom home and let her die. Well, that didn't happen. we got her to a civilian hosp er and they saved her life as by then her heart rate was below 32. I am a veteran as mom is. as past soldiers and knowing present soldiers, this va just doesn't cut it. today sis and i r going to battle with the va. we r calling it Operation Save Mom's Life. this is the only person in my life that i would die for, so they better buckle up cuz it's going to get bumpy. We have made sure that civilian specialists who treated her in multiple hosp stays r aware of situation. They have all told us to b very careful with decisions from some va drs. Ladee if ure island is still up and running, i'd like to reserve a spot for me and Christian Kane as J Morgan has to work this coming weekend. lol I have to find a way to talk to these bastards without any tears. they see as a sign of weakness. I fought for pts as an OTR, but this is different cuz it's my mom. Does this website have a bail fund just in case? Peace to u all today. xxx Karen
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Well, I started writing a long post to you guys and then put it aside for a moment and now it's gone. SHIT. I hate when that happens. Had lots of good stuff in it. It's late now and I'm up to late again. Just let me say thank you to Sharynmarie, Ladee, and Cmagnum. Thank you for your love and support. I will write more.

Love, Cattails.
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cattails, thanks for opening your heart and letting us know your pain. It is sad when a parent has to go to a nursing home, but on the other hand if they need that level of care, it's the place for them to be.

It almost sounds to me like you have some survivor guilt.

What you did in placing him in the NH under the circumstances was the most loving thing you could do for both him and yourself, plus your husband.

One recommendation that I have is to focus more on he is where he can receive the level of care he now needs; you can reclaim some of your life; you and your husband can enjoy more of your retirement now; you can reconnect with your husband, and you can take better care of you.

If this deep sadness continues to make you feel sick to the point that you are not able to move forward from this point, then my other suggestion is to find someone to talk face to face about this. It also sounds like your anticipatory grief has skyrocketed for going to a NH has a finality to it that going to rehab does not. This is all sad, but know that you are not alone.

Changing the subject, sometimes, I think we caregivers want to be the super caring adult child, sort of like some parents want to be a super parent for their own children, but neither is possible or healthy. People can loose touch with their spouses in either raising children or in taking care of an elderly parent. The former, I've seen. The latter, I've experienced, but not anymore. One sad plight that I've read about on this sight but never seen are parents who loose touch with their grown children and young grandchildren because of their care giving situation or an over focus on it.

Well, it is very late and I'm not sleeping well for some reason. So, I will try to go back to sleep.

I hope something that I've written is helpful.
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Cattails~I think this is the first time (at least for me to read) you have shared your pain. You have always been there for so many of us and I have always appreciated your words. I know how hard it is to place a loved one in a NH. When my dad was placed, it broke my heart. I knew it was for the best because my mother could not handle him at home anymore. Mother did keep him at home until the Alzheimer's was advanced enough he no longer knew our names. I knew my mother was struggling with his care and it was the best decision. I know you have given so much to your dad and the time has come to place him where he will continue to get good care with you overseeing. You will still be involved in his care, visiting him and your time with him will be different but in time, you will be more relaxed to enjoy a closeness with him on a whole new level. Go easy on yourself because you have been a wonderful daughter! Bless you my dear friend and continue to share your heart♥♥!
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There ya go Cat, sharing makes it not weigh as much.... that's what we are here for, to help each other....The purpose for this whole site, so we are not alone... and yes we may be alone in our homes. but we are not alone in spirit.... I have made life long friends here, women that I treasure , respect and trust...It didn't happen over night... it took sharing the good, the bad and the ugly... sadness, hurt, laughter, exhaustion.... and I wouldn't trade one of those women for anything in this world....
And I would be worried if you weren't feeling sad... and I know you know this in your head, but not in your heart yet, you are NOT abandoning you dad.... you are placing him where he will get good care, attention, all the things he needs... and you are going to grieve this... it's normal and naturual... it's not fun, but it is normal.... so try to forgive yourself for being human...... my personal belief is we are born spiritual and spend the time we have on earth trying to accept our humaness.....so hope you have some sort of Higher Power to give this too, and keep sharing with us.... and it will get different... I don't say it will get better, I hate that saying... it gets DIFFERENT , and becomes something we can live with..... so be kinder to yourself..... and keep us updated as to how things are going and how you are.... hugs across the miles to you...
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Stormy: You hang in there. How sweet that Connor is going to vacation bible school and you have a few hours with just you and Lily. Perfect. I feel so sorry for your sis. She has the weight on her shoulders and I can see why you don't want to step up and be her twin. Worst case scenario, Stormy: your sis needs medical attention and can't deal with dad. Your father goes to a facility for care. I know your sis won't like it, but it is an alternative that can work. So don't think there is not a way out. You may have to be the strong one to bring reason to the situation.

Your sis has run herself into the ground and my heart really goes out to her. None of us are robots who can just go on and on and on. Bless her, I'm sure she does feel like she neglected her husband. I feel like I have neglected mine, so I can relate.

Just a heads up to all of you, I have been really struggling lately. We have decided to put my dad in NH care. His medicaid application has been approved and I feel sick about placing him and also hopeful about reclaiming my life. The feeling sick part has been ripping me apart lately. I know I've reached my limit, but I feel so bad for my dad. It's hard to reconcile the knowing it's right for us and the sadness i feel for him. I haven't talked about this very much until the last day or two. It seemed so close to the bone for me that I was at a loss as to what to say or who would understand.

Lately, I've been kind of hard on people on various threads. Doing the soap box, tough love stuff and Ladee was kind enough to gently remind me that I was being a bit of a hard ass. Not her exact words by any means, but I appreciated her comments because they were right and also that she cared about what I was going through.

Right now, I am pissed off, sad and hopeful, but at least I am talking about it.

Sending you all love and comfort and some relief from the stress, Cattails.
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Well just got back from dropping connor off at vacation bible school. He is with my brother and his wife. So i am home alone!!!! (except for lily) just us girls here. Boy this doesn't happen often. Seems quite strange. But hubby will be home in about 30 mins. I talked to sis today and she said that bil wasn't feeling good still. And she said that the dr came in and told them they were going to try to save as much as they could. I suppose they were talking about his foot. I was like oh my lord!!!!Maybe they were just talking about his toes. I could tell sis was really stressed today cause she was saying that she has got to figure out what to do. Also she said that bil (chip) and dad were not talking much. I think she thinks they are both depressed and she is worried about them. And i just told her that. That they are probably worried about her because they know she has already got so much on her and they are both just trying to process all of it.
I know that if bil moved in with dad or vice versa that it probably would be bad and it would not work out but i have just been trying to figure out a solution to it all. The thing is that sis works long hours. 12 hour days some days and others are 9 hour days. Then she has been staying at night with dad so she would not hardly see hubby that much and she already feels like he is in this situation because she neglected him when she knew that he had drainage coming from his foot. And i know she is not going to go back to how things were for awhile. She lives a block away from dads house within walking distance. Thats why i don't understand why she just doesn't leave dad there at night and go home. She could be back over there at dads in two shakes of a lamb tail if he needed her. And he knows how to dial a telephone. Sometimes she is as hardheaded as he is. And i could go check on bil and see if he needed anything during the day since i will be right there at him. But sis will run herself ragged between the two houses. She already had two drs appt for herself this month for blood in her urine. Suppose to get a ct scan of her kidneys and have another procedure to figure out what is going on. And she has cancelled both of them. She just started going back to the dr a couple of months ago, she hasn't been to one in a very, very, very long time. I sure as shit don't need her to get down and out. Cause if she does i will be checking myself into the 5 star dorothy dix hotel or the closest one i can find. Stormy's vacation spot!!!!!! As for what bil would think of him and dad moving into the same house he would not like that at all. I don't think he would like that on a good day let alone with him hurting and feeling like shit. But sis and i have just been trying to weigh out all the options and possibilities right now. We still do not know what we are going to do. If i hear of anything i will let ya'll know. Thanks everyone for the suggestions i appreciate them. Love and hugs stormyyy
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I hear thunder as I write, rain here too.... Thank God.....
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After another day with a heat index of 105, we finally are getting a downpour of a rain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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thanks sharynmarie... I'm on it.. thanks for letting us know....
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To all of you who have read negativity and emotional abuse thread: Please encourage Menohardy to continue to post. He says he will not post anymore because he hurt someone's feelings. His valuable information is so important for all of us learn about when caregiving. More importantly it is his forum to speak from the patients POV. So please go to the thread and let him know how you feel!!
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Wait a minute...let me quote this "Stormy, Beck is right" HOLY SH*T....i'm saving that post, for sure....that is "metamorphically" awesome.. LOL

Burned....u have to tell us the real definition of that word, cuz its become my favorite word....my headstone will read..."Metamorphically Dead"....thanx to u....lol
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Jam.....where have u been????? i have had my armor on, n i've been ready for u to pummel me with "thumb" jokes for a week.. It's gettin hot in here!!!! lol miss u..
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Beck, Jam didn't pick on you... aren't you SPECIAL... give her time, she's been hassling with the contractor putting in her new shower..... her brain cells are being used for that right now.. so don't worry, she'll get you sooner or later....
New lady starts this eveing at M's , will be there to show her around, and see how she does with S.... M sounded very pleased with her... so a little prayer for a good outcome today... I am feeling a lot less stressed and am getting rest, between letting my bag of broken bones son figure some stuff out on his own, and getting some help at S and M's.... I am almost feeling human again..... we finally got some rain yesterday... I sat on the steps for a few minutes and just let it rain on me.... felt sooooo goooood..... I'm so grateful I do not see the need to be an 'adult' all the time..... settin in the rain thinking about the "island"... ya, uh huh, a little respite where ever I can get it.... find one thing to laugh about today... love ya'll....
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Good Morning! Hope everyone had a decent weekend and is doing well and welcome to all the new posters....glad to see you here.
And beck I've even left you alone and not made fun of you!

Wanted to pop in this morning and throw my two cents in.....just can't resist it I suppose....:)
stormy......this event with bil doesn't have to turn into a stressful situation.....as ladee says, has anyone asked bil what he wants when he gets home? We can already see that putting him and Dad together is an impossible thing to do. Besides I can guarantee Dad doesn't want to leave his home and doing that might put him under more stress than he needs. Bil will be fine....he won't be an invalid....he'll be able to get up and fend for himself. Just make sure fluids are handy for him and fix some meals that are easy for him to either pop in the microwave or prepare himself. You know, this might be the perfect time to bring in someone else to help watch Dad......then you could pop in and check on bil for sis during the day just to see that he has everything he needs. It's a win-win for everyone.

Nothing much to report on the col.......she was concerned on the 4th about all the activity at the NH because Nanny died the day before......Nanny was her mother who died in 1993. When she talks she simply throws words together that don't make much sense to us...maybe they do to her...but it's like her brain cannot process the correct words to make a sensible statement.

Hope everyone has a wonderfully perfect day.........think "ladee's island".......and I will bring the airport hunk from the commercials.....:)
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Stormy maybe your sis would go for someone staying with dad at night now that bil needs her. Or the life alert thing for dad at night if he is still able to do for himself. Prayers girlie
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Stormy, Beck is right, when i had my broken leg, I was alone and could not put weight on my leg, I managed fine..... I am like your bil, I would rather figure it out for myself as to have dad there..... Lord I wish your sis would just 'get it' that people are capable of doing some things for themselves... has anyone asked your bil what HE wants..... If I was him I'd opt to stay in the hospital.... sorry, it all just sounds so stressful for an already stressed to the max situation....and sounds like the Dr's are on top of what ever is wrong with your bil... so have some faith Stormy that things will work out..... hugs to you....
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Stormyy..it doesnt sound like bil n dad would make good room mates. Once bil comes home, he will obviously b using crutches, n that is something i think he can navigate on his own. Wen i had my back surgery, i was left alone using a walker n had people that i could call if i had a problem. It worked out fine. How many hours would he b left alone? R there family or friends that he could call if he needs help? I did...n it worked out very well for me. If you put them together, it will only cause
tension n frustration to a situation that is already difficult. I kno this is a hard decision to make, bcuz u want wats best for both of them. I feel for u, Stormy...but if u n sis make sure that bil has everything he needs before sis leaves for work, it could work out well for him. As long as he has someone that is available to get to him,should he need some thing, i think it would be fine. Maybe im being too optimistic, but i kno it can b done from wat i went thru. I dont kno if this is helpful to u n ur situation, but i jst thought i'd suggest it. I'm praying for u, and hope that all goes well with the next surgery. Ask the dr. if it would b safe to leave him alone during the day...that would change how u approach all of this. Hang in there, Stormy....huge hugs n my thoughts n prayers will b with u.
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Hey ya'll sorry i haven't updated more about bil. He is still in the hospital. Tomorrow will be a week that he has been up there. Bil called sis today and told her that they were going to do surgery on him again today at 1 cause he started running temp again. He had gone for a day or two without having temp and then it started back. So the first surgery they took a piece of the bone out of his 4th toe and today the dr told them that he was looking at the 3rd toe. That he might have to do the same with that one. The other day when i was up there visiting with him/taking dad to get his throat stretched i saw that bil had a blister on the top of his foot near where his 4th toe is and sis said that it was not there the night before. And the dr today said that he thought that was where the infection was coming from when he started running temp today. And that now he has 4 holes in his foot. One at the top of the bottom of his foot, one on the heel, one where the blister is and one in the middle on the bottom of his foot. It is just worrying me that he has this many holes and what is going to happen if he keeps getting them. They were talking one time about that he might be able to come home tuesday but i doubt that is going to happen now since they had to go back in today. Sis and i have been toying with the idea about what we are going to do when he does come home. She has got to work cause her paycheck is the only one coming in now. So that is going to leave bil at home by his self. And he can't put any weight on his foot for 3 weeks. So i said something to her about moving bil in at dads and she said that he would never go for that. And then she said something about moving dad at her house. So we just don't know what is going to happen. Dad and bil are too different species. Dad can't hear shit and bil has super sonic hearing. And he doesn't like loud noises, period. Let alone when he is sick, he wants quiet. No paper rattling, no loud tv or talking. So i don't know how it would be with them two living in the same house. Plus dad is cold natured and bil is very, very hot natured. Them two are like night and day. Hubby told me the other day he said well if you are going to look after one you might as well look after two. Meaning that during the day i look after dad and bil in the same house. I said that is not what i wanted to hear. And that way sis could still work during the day and have dad and her hubby at night. We might would come closer to dad moving in at her house rather than bil moving in with dad. But just don't think bil would like that too much either. So in other words we don't know what in the hell we are going to do with either one of them. Any suggestions would be appreciated!!!!!!!! Love and hugs stormyyy
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