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The American Medical Association has weighed in on Obama's new health care package.

The Allergists were in favor of scratching it, but the Dermatologists advised not to make any rash moves.The Gastroenterologists had sort of a gut feeling about it, but the Neurologists thought the Administration had a lot of nerve. Meanwhile, Obstetricians felt certain everyone was laboring under a misconception, while the Ophthalmologists considered the idea shortsighted. Pathologists yelled, "Over my dead body!" while the Pediatricians said, "Oh, grow up!" The Psychiatrists thought the whole idea was madness, while the Radiologists could see right through it. Surgeons decided to wash their hands of the whole thing and the Internists claimed it would indeed be a bitter pill to swallow. The Plastic Surgeons opined that this proposal would "put a whole new face on the matter". The Podiatrists thought it was a step forward, but the Urologists were pissed off at the whole idea. Anesthesiologists thought the whole idea was a gas, and those lofty Cardiologists didn't have the heart to say no. In the end, the Proctologists won out, leaving the entire decision up to the assholes in Washington .
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I think people are tired of hearing me talk about mom and all that is happening. I’ve got to change my attitude before I lose all my friends. I had a total melt down this past weekend. My anger got the best of me. I just blew up at my husband. I’d have to say I became somewhat violent throwing things at him. All over nothing he did. Then I refused to get out of bed in the morning. He tried to be patient with me trying different ways to get me to come to my senses. Then he said something I’ve heard over and over we all have choices with our actions. Why that resonated with me this time I don’t know. It has taking me a few days to let it sink in but I’m going to make the effort.
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Took mom to her 5th and final radiation treatment. They were not able to do it. The tumor moved due to pleural effusion. She does not seem to be having any symptoms from it right now so they are leaving it alone. Wish I could get some answers about what this really means.
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Ladee..so sorry about Sonny and hope Marie is good today.. You know your son is feeling better if he is getting bored..get him a coloring book and crayons...
Love ya girl and you can show up on my doorstep anytime!
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Ladde you are awsome to think of all of us when your plate is so full-glad Marie is behaving better too bad it has to be because you life is so hard now. Yes we had the first meeting and 3 other former caregivers also attended -they had not asked if they could attend they just showed up and the two leaders accepted them-both like to be in charge but we -the former caregivers gave our opions to those going through it now and I know I will continue to attend the once a month meetings and I think we helped the ones new at this journey.
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Morning everyone, it is morning isn't it???? The way I am feeling right now reminds me of caring for my lady Ruth.... can't think, am forgetting important things, like closing my car door... Went out to leave for work and my car door is standing wide open, ding ding ding, with the key in it.... and no one bothered to steal it, what a sad statement to my old car....thank God I have a new battery, or it would have been waaaaaay past meltdown for me....
Vic, so happy Dad is getting on this new med.... I know it will improve his quaility of life and sometimes that's all we can hope for....and it will be so much easier on you...
lildeb, sorry you are so worried about your parents and seems so little can be done... a welfare check can be done, to ease your mind, but still a lot can not be done if they choose to live like that... they can't make them move or seek help... sorry... prayers for you...
ASG, 4 miles!!!!!!! I can barely DRIVE 4 miles much less walk in one place for that distance... I probably walk 4 miles a day at Marie's, according to my back and feet by the time I get home, but you go girl!!!!! We want all of you to match, not just skinny legs....love ya..
Sansan, I feel so bad for you. You have her best interest at heart and have no say so in the treatment... one of my concerns is what Dr. would even think of doing this procedure under the circumstances.... we are hoping you come back and let us know what is going on... prayers for you...
Viv, so happy to hear you are on the meds.... I call it " better living thru chemistry", If you are a caregiver, that goes on the resume', ARE YOU ON ANTIDEPRESSANTS...... OH HELL YES!!!!!!! hope you are feeling even better real soon...
Stormy, so glad you are feeling better, this is going to be so much fun... and take lots of pics with Conner bouncing from place to place.... and let him ride the rides without you crying like you did last time !!!!!
Notlike, oh yeah, I'm riding this horse of happiness as long as Marie chooses to keep acting human... not complaining at all. I am pretty sure Sonny had a TIA yesterday, he is getting to where he is more and more stressed when Marie is gone... He kept rambling and rubbing his upper lip, like it was tingling, the hard part is they are unable to tell us what is wrong.... I have stopped asking him if he wants juice or water, I just give it to him..... they don't know if they are thristy, and to keep him hydrated I keep shoving liquids at him....
marie's procedure for her hip went very well yesterday, so hopefully she will be feeling better in a few days... she really likes this Dr., he took the time to explain everything and he also validated her pain... she is such a drama mama, it is hard for us to tell the real extent of the pain, and she will use it when sonny is getting too much attention... so my heart goes out to all of you who are taking care of TWO... at least I get to go home.... to tend to broken son..... he is getting bored so now he is wanting to go somewhere.... UH NO!!!! The only place he gets to GO, is the bathroom.... I have a feeling I am about to have my hands even fuller than they are now..... so if I show up on one of ya'll's doorstep, just let me in... I'll be able to help you out with your charges, I don't eat much, and that crazy look in my eyes will subside after some rest....
Jam, hope Target is feeling better soon before he ends up like son, with broken bones...
Seeme, hubby will be back soon, and your life will get back to normal... how is the walkway coming along??? Take pics.
Austin, has the support group started yet... you will be an awesome asset to them, info they know nothing about... let us know something....
I am sorry if I missed someone, remember I left my car door open all night, so don't take it personal..... just remind me.....
Love you all and hope we all have a good day, if only for a few minutes... think of ya'll during my day, and can't wait to get on here and see who did what.... later.
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Austin, our council on aging isn't all good either. The lady in charge wants to convert me to her religion instead of help me gather info about caregiving.
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Allshegot, My brother is going to call the Adult Protection Service people and do a follow up. I did talk to a friend and they recommend calling the police but the police can't make them see the dr. However, the court could if a dr stated they were not in their right mind. As for the vicious dogs, they make sure they have plenty of dog food and they buy bottle water. I have tried to talk to my dad personally and he refuse to see a dr and ask what could they do. We had it out for I told him if I didn't take my meds and see a dr and the man above us that I wouldn't be here. he try to make it sound like that, I had to do that and I told him no that is my choice. So, this is his choice to not see a dr. I want to slap my daddy silly. I just don't understand him. I know we can lead a horse to water and we can't make the horse drink it. At least we, us kids did try to have something done for them and we tried face-to-face before too.

Vivian, I take anti-depression meds too and it has helped me out a lot. I have also learned to play certain games on net to ease my mind as well. That way I can collect my thoughts and refocus on what is important and how much I can do for others.

Stormy, glad you are feeling better and maybe you can enjoy your trip.
Sansan, I have no clue and hopefully someone knows a little a bit about your situation can help.
Jam, u r so right that they r grown adults and as long as they're in their sort of right mind their is not much us children can do for them. all we can say is that we did try, twice. Damn hard-headed Irish daddy. : )
Everyone else, I hope y'all have a nice day for what is left and hopefully some of y'all can get some rest as well.
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Maybe call their local social service office and report what is going on that is probably all you can do or call the local police department to have them checked on for their safety-it sounds like they do not want any help-it must be horrible for you to be so worried.
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Hey everyone I haven't read the posts for today but just wanted to let ya'll know that i am feeling alot better today thank the lord!!! I just hope it continues to get better. 2 more days of antibiotics and 2 more days before we leave on our trip. The countdown is upon us........ Love and hugs to all stormyyy
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Lil..im sorry to hear about your parents, thats tough. could nthe sherrifs department do anything? are they being well fed? i see shows on t.v. all the time about taking into custody animals that aren't being cared for properly because they have to many. If they cant affford to get a water pump fixed they probably cant provide 7 dogs with needed medical care, food, ect. Not saying people who dont spenmd money on a vet are wrong. ive had animals before that i cared for very well without being able to provide vet care, but under the circumstances maybe that would be a road to look down. Vivian Yes this is a wonderful place. I found it myself while I was in the dispair of caregiving. so much info here. San San, Welcome, I personally wouldnt do any kind of life saving treatments on someone if they were in the last stages of ALZ./Dementia. Comfort issues would be different. i'm not sure what problem your mom has but if it's something related to pain, the benifits would have to out weigh the risk and burden. What is the objective of the procedure? Is it to relieve pain? When someone is in the last stages of dementia or frail, surgeries are very hard for them, sometimes they do not recover well. Can you talk to brother and ask him some of these questions.Let him know that you have a concern for moms well being and that a procedure may have a very negative impact on her. Again I dont have a full understanding of your moms issues but those would be the things I would consider. Im sending perayers your way.
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I just want to say hi to everyone, this site has really made a difference for me. Reading about what others are going through helps alot. I'm on my 4th day of anti-depressants and I think they are already making a difference. I feel more calm. I havn't had the energy to do anything. Its been a struggle to make meals. We don't eat out because of the budget and I don't buy processed foods. Mom is supposed to watch her sugar and have no salt. Its been 2 weeks since I told my sister how I felt about her, and I have never had something like this run through my mind constantly not being able to let it go. Still feeling burned out and run down. My Aunt and Uncle are visiting their daughter, they come from AZ every summer and spend it with her. They were going to visit us today, but I cancelled last night because I was too tired to get groceries and put on a happy face. I have a lot of guilt feeling like I'm not making the best use of the time I have with my mom. I'm afraid I'm going to have alot of regrets, wishing I had done more enjoyable things, not just trying to make it through another day. She is having another day of just wanting to sleep, I had a hard time getting her to wake up this morning. She is on two anti-depressants but I don't think they work. Well I feel like I'm just rambling away, so I hope everyone is having a great day and I'll say bye for now. I just want to say to Ladee you are a delight, I'll pray for your son's continued healing. Love to all.
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Thanks you all, I am just sitting by my cell phone while getting myself back together with my b/s. I know their is only so much u can do. They have had two of them dogs put away due to one had almost bit a neighbor for he had gotten out of the fence from the property. I like to shoot everyone of those vicous dogs. why in world would they want to have pets like that anyway? They r for protection but I think these r a bit extreme. Going to have to round up my own forensic possess. ; )
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Hi I am looking for comments on if any person can relate to this:
My mom is decling with systemic functions as well as late stages of ALZ/Dementia and will be undergoing an epideral for her lumbar.
Would you take the risk of having this procedure? Any risks?
I would not but I am not on her ADV DIRECTIVE OF HEALTHCARE
and my brother is in denial of everything.
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Lildeb-As bad as it is to have my parents under my roof, it sounds worse to have someone that far away. Please breathe-Jam's right-you can't do anything about this. (Except get a degree in forensic science)LOL Hugs.
Mis-glad you had fun!
Vic-Hope you see improvement soon with Dad's new med. I'm sure a TIA tires Mom out - it must be stressful to her system even if she doesn't realize what's going on at the time. Rest is good for her afterwords. Blessings and hugs.
ASG-You Go Girl! Tredmill for me too, please!
Ladee-Hope you got some rest, or get caught up tonight. Glad your son continues to improve. Please do not look a gift horse in the mouth-take the good with Marie while you can. Reality is what we make it! Hugs.
Hubby's building raised garden beds for Dad. The cheap way - cutting old barrels in half and building stands for them out of scrap metal. I do love that man! We'll see how much fuss Mom puts up about buying the dirt and seeds.
Have a happy day all!
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Good Morning Posse!

Going to do a drive-by this morning.........

ASG.....good for you and the treadmill...do some for me please! Yes, it's hard to see our "space" intruded upon.....I still hate the things I see lying around and I'm forever grabbing something to put away.
ladee.....maybe you can sneak in a nap this afternoon while Sonny is snoozing.
lildeb......not much you can do about Dad and step-Mom....they are adults and can dictate who steps on their property. It's unfortunate and there probably won't be a thing done until no one can meet at the fence, then there would be "probable cause" for entering. And I would imagine the dogs would either be caught, if possible, or put down if they are aggressive. I know it's easy to say "stop worrying" but don't kill yourself with stress over something that you can do nothing about.
Vic....glad Dad is getting more treatment. Keep us posted on his progress. Yes, sounds like Mom is having TIA's.......give hubby a hug, you always sound so much happier when he gets home.

I'm lurking and reading and keeping up with ALL of you........hope y'all have a great Thursday! Sending hugs..........................
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Vic, Im so glad the doctor is gonna give him something. Hopefully that will help. I know its hard trying to manuver someone so rigid. Auntie never complains of pain or headache, she tells me no, then she told p.t. spmething bout her headache being gone? I'm like wait..Honey when you have a headache you need to tell me. She has confused spells, peed off spells, and recentley mild hallucinations mostley at nights. Vascular doctor told me the confused spells we Tia's. She sleeps a lot to afterwords, and ive noticed its a much deeper sleep. Like her mind and body is just taxed. Huubys coming home always makes thing better (i say in my most sarcastic voisce:) jk. It is nice. After my divorce I never thought i'd marry again, just take care of the kiddos. Hubby changed that. I remember one day shortly after we married, as his stuff piling up more and more in my home, thinking what the heck did I do...i had gotten so used to having my own space , own stuff I felt intruded upon. Of couarse i love hubby and wouldnt change a thing, even his car parts he kept trying to assemble in my living room:) He now has his own man cave area. Ladee I love the CAT! well I better get off her and get chores done. Figured i drop in while having breakfast. oooh gotta brag on myself for doing 4 miles on the tredmill yesterday!!! big hugs for a peaceful day for you all.
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One more, my dad only has Medicare A for he didn't won't them to take out money for B. All of us don't care if the state needs to take the property if it will get them back in their right mind n health.
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Mistake in my writing that it is Not the mnl who needed help to the car from shopping by the stepmom. Of course she made it to the fence of the property line. Oh, you cannot even see the trailer for the woods have grown up so bad. I had to add the forensic humor so that I can stop from going crazy myself. Someone humor me please.
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We have to be nuts to be a caregiver sometimes and yes, a little humor can go a long way as for healing and stress released.
My sister has went back and still has mixed emotions and who wouldn't in her condition. As for the mnl, I finally got those papers filed out and sent off and I guess I just wait for a phone call away for an assessment for Respite care and not to mention their is a waiting period too. I used this websitre as a referral for the Aging Area Agency.
I have a CGM on my side for 3 days now and the tape is getting itchy and it seems to look black n blue due to I think she hit a blood vein when the nurse put it on the side of my stomach. It suppose to constantly check my blood sugars b/s. Sometimes my b/s will get way too high's and way too low's. However, my A1C was a 6.4 which is good my health condition.
I get to drag the mnl with me again to get it taking out and to see a nutritionist to find a pattern of the causes and fixed the problem.
I had to make neon signs with a thick black marker so that the mnl will quit using all my dish detergent so that she will wash her hands in the bathroom. I was going through a big bottle once a wk. Their is only 3 of us here. Not to mention I had to hunt dirty clothes of hers to wash for she will change back n forth throughout the day n will forget which one's were dirty n her eye sight is not that clear.
The 36 Hour book by Mace Rabins has helped me a lot in controlling myself and being a bit understanding about AZ. sometimes. ; )
Now, I am dealing with issues with my dad n stepmom in Fla. they both drink and they have no water for the pump is broken, they don't won't no help from us children. they said they can buy jugs of water and wait on the rain. Are U freaking kidding me! Rain! How do they take showers? I think the alcohol has fried my dads brain. I know he has to be in his late 70's. Family members made an anoymous call to have them checked out for we heard r dad may have broken a hip and has flu. The mnl needed help to get back to the car just from grocery shopping and that was about a bag full for she has loss a lot of weight and smokes like a sailor. One of my brothers tried to get her to see a dr and she told him that she has been smoking for over 30yrs and she didn't won't to find out anything. Our dad said he just wants to die right their on his property. Problem here is that we don't won't them to just die their and that they have about 7 vicious dogs. No family relative nor us grown kids can even go on the property to check on them! When we would gather for family outings we would have to meet them at r aunts place which is a place that not in the best shape either. STRESS!!!! Family members suppose to got someone to check on him but the stepmom came up to the property fence line and told them that they were okay and that this was private property. They just left! They didn't even check on my dad! I'm sorry but I am stressing big time. I know he don't won't to see a dr and that he drinks but what r we to do. Just let them die their and hire a forensic person to find their bones after the dogs get done with them? Suppodely, my borthers are going to call the state people agian. I guess just wait and see. What would y'all do in this situation. STESSSSSSS,,,,
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Awesome Vickie Vic, prayers answered. let us know of his progress. Know this will make things a little easier. Sorry about mom, Sonny has them too, nothing can be done, so tell her to take it easy today...
Happy hubby is home... I know that always lifts your spirits... tell him I said thank you for being a great hubby.... love ya girl, keep us posted...
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Morning all..laughed as I caught up on all the posts..warms my heart.
Dads neuro appt went well..I was afraid that he wasn't ging to give dad anything but he did..he put him on sinemet for the rigidity..and in a couple of weeks told me to call to get him on the aricept. Then we go back I. Two months. Dad was having a bad day yesterday so it was good that the doc saw it.
We got home ..sat down for lunch with mom...she started feeing pins and needles in fingers and then got a little confused..couldn't talk right.thinks she had a mild TIA... Came out of it pretty quick. But was tired and had headache the rest of the day..
Hubby got home last night!!! Yaay.. Hoping today will be better.. Oh yea the doc says we should see changes in dads rigidity in a few days.
God Bless all..
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*long DAY today*, God I make myself so tired.... later
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Good to hear from you Mis, sounds like you had a great time, followed you on FB , saw where hubby got stuck... lol...glad ya'll didn't hit the deer... don't want to hear about any more wrecks for awhile....
Marie has just been outstanding, kinds creeps me out that my son had to be hurt so badly for her to act human, but am not complaining...we actually laughed yesterday.... I do keep hearing Twilight Zone music in the background tho.... I've probably entered another demension and don't even know it..... ignorance is bliss sometimes...
Son making slow progress, prayers being anwered... appreciate all who have participated in this last Ladee Drama....
My long today, so ya'll won't hear from me until way later... hope everyone has a blessed day.
Thanks again Tina, you are a sweetie... and thanks for using the computer again, my brain is too tired to figure out your phone texts.....
love ya'll.
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mismiley... two dear at once, that would have been lucky. I hope you bought a lotto ticket afterwards! It's pretty common around these parts to smash into them certain times of the year. I smashed up my favorite car that way a few years ago:(
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I was Lol when she told me. Your charges are very blessed to have you. I bet you are a whole lotta fun. I hope your son is doing better. He is so lucky to have a mamma like you. I know they dont always realize it, but somewhere along the way they learn. I wonder if Jam's legs are done baking? I thought about tanning mine then decided nope to much energy:)
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Thanks ASG, don't feel so awesome today, just tired I guess.... and you are just too sweet.... I hope you always stay that way and don't get jaded like me.... If I am blessed, I will have a sweet caregiver when I can't get around anymore.... I really hope I die before then, as we never want others to do what we do...... if I have my right mind, I think I would be a fun charge... have had too much experiance with all the grumpy gussies, and don't want to be like them.... but all you young women on here just amaze me... I have said it many times, when I was younger, I was too selfish to do what you are doing..... by the way, sorry if I laughed when I found out the cat was involved in her last fall.... ahhhhh sweet revenge..... love you lady, and thanks for the support....
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Hi everyone and welcome to the new posters.
notlike- you had me roll'in in laughter.
ladee- hugs to you.
Everyone else I hope your days are going good.

With Easter being the first holiday without our grandma here. My hubby and I decided to head north for our 3 day weekend. We went camping and yes we woke Saturday freezing. It was only 26 degrees out. We took an electric heater but it still wasn't enough. Note to self: Always take extra heat when camping in Northern Michigan in April or have on hand since the weather changes soo much. Makes me wonder if we'll get snow in June. We caught up with a few friends that we haven't seen in a long time and decided to stay another night. Coming back from dinner on Saturday night we got quite the surprise. We almost hit 2 deer standing along the side of road with our side by side. I could almost reach out and pat them on the head. Wonder if that would of been the first for the local police to write up a report 2 deer hit by a side by side. That probaly would of raised our insurance rates.
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Ladee... I just want you to know how amazing I think you are. You have said that to me before but i dont think ive ever said it back but have thought many times, you are the one that's amazing. The "concerned realitive" is well meaning, but nosey. I hate to say that she isn't important. She's some kind of a married to a long distant cousin kinda thing. She is in her early eighties herself, but gets around better than some 60 year olds. I would have never guessed her age. She is a very social person and participates with the various social clubs. I never thought she really had much to do with auntie and her husband before, didnt really know she knew them, but after aunties stroke in the nh, she thanked me for visiting auntie one day. I thought to myself why are you thanking me for something ive been doing for years already, it seemed odd. Then auntie told me she had the woman on her checking account. I didnt think anything much as hubby and i were to busy at the time with his mother to be able to help her in that way, but thought well maybe auntie and the woman knew each other better than I thought. After auntie lived with me for a year she lost ability in her hand(temporarily) and was put in the hospital she couldnt write a check for her medicine and we were stuck, she asked me if she could put me on her checks because she never sees this realitive,and what if she became permantley unable to write her own checks.She said she didnt know why she didnt put us on it in the first place, the "concerned realitive" offered to do it for her(while she was in the nh)and knew the ladies at the bank and had it all taken care of. It took us a week to get it changed over because the bank wouldnt do it without the "concerned realitive" being present, she was to busy for a week. When we got there, the realitive had shown up earlier and already had her part done. She was walking out of the bank when we arrived. All she said was she had already signed. Now dont get me wrong. I dont think she is somehow crooked, or would do anything michevious no more than I would, but I think it made her angry auntie was changing it. I think in her mind she was a better person for auntie to use. On the way home from the bank auntie told me that she really didnt know the "concerned realitive" until she was in the nh, the woman started visiting her. It bothered me that, as careful as she had always been she would entrust what little she had left with someone who she had known of, but didnt know. It also bothered me that we had been so busy with everything going on we had neglected auntie and she felt like she had to rely on a stranger. The woman does call her everyday... auntie says shes nosey and askes her to many questions, she also gives her two cents. Sometimes its good, sometimes its not helpful. The woman will tell her something over the phone over and over and auntie gets stuck on it. Like when she couldnt eat the woman kept telling her she needed to eat, then she became obsessed with eating, and would vomit...guess who got to clean it up? I told the woman, she cant eat, she vomits, gotta rest her tummy,she said then she needs ensure...but she dont like ensure, next thing i know..auntie wants ensure, at almost 10.00 for 2 days worth, i got it, she hated it, just like she did the first time i tried it. donated the other bottles to another lady. Its that kinda thing. Now shes being insistant with me about a wheel chair being a bad idea. So aunties fine now and walking around the last two days. If she falls again and gets hurt Im gonna soooo say I told you so this time. Shes the only perswon who calls auntie so i dont want to make waves.
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Yeah, a little meltdown and I'm good for another milllion miles, give or take.... I love this thread when everyone is nuts... we need to laugh, it is the best stress reducer I know of.....
Stormy, could have done without the visual you shared about you and dad and the mucus sharing.... but hope you are feeling better, count down to vacation... make sure you take pics, for many of us, your vacation will be the only one we get....
Angela, it's scairy what those old folks can do and not remember.... Ruth could not stand on her own, but you better believe she could get over the rails on the hospital bed..... amazing, but glad no one was hurt...
ASG, what is the 'concerned relative's" deal, it's not like SHE will have to take care of bedriddin Auntie......tell her to email Ladee, I am needing to unload on someone, so 'concerned relative' is as good as any....
Vic, when is Dad's appt??? Make sure you tell us what you find out...
Seeme, am glad no u turns and that Mike hasn't stroked out, or choked out anyone.....
Jam, laughed out loud about Elvis, doesn't take much sometimes, depends on how tired we are I guess....
I know I am forgetting someone, sorry, love to all.
Changed Son's bandages today.... it's a miracle he didn't loose his leg, gonna be some super bad scars......still black and blue.. but he's healing very good, no infection of any kind, a little more movement.... so all in all, he is very blessed....
Oh, and just wanted to share with ya'll, I'm not trying to be strong, I am just not a cryer, never have been.... my first 5 years clean and sober that's all I did was cry.... but the tears just won't come... so don't think I am trying to undo myself here by being strong, which I am, but mine will come out in exhaustion more than tears.... sleep is my stress reducer.
Tomorrow is my long day, will get son all set up in the morning, and then come dragging in when Marie gets back from Austin..... Sonny has been anxious the past few days.... hope tomorrow is a good day for us.
I feel like I am not making any sense, going to drink a cup of coffee and relax, more later, love ya'll.
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